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Picked up the SR5010 yesterday. It is connected to Magnepan .7s and a REL T9 sub.
hiprecked, same here, I was planning to use sr5010 with just two floor speakers. now I'm torn between getting an avr or stereo amp. not sure if sr6010 or sr7010 will change much in terms of pure stereo sound quality. I have a question about sr5010, though. is it possible to have video from one hdmi input and sound from another? e.g., playing on a console and streaming spotify or listening from cd at the same time?
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Any word on the specs yet? DAC? Price?


They will both be using the 32 bit AK4458VN DAC just as will the Denon X4200W and X6200W. Price unknown for another few weeks.
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It should be TUNER PRESET CH +not -.


Also I'm new to the Marantz family I just purchased NR1506 and have some questions. How do you turn off Audessey settings and use manual settings?

When commercials come the sound lowers. Where can I changed that?
Typo has been fixed. Let me know any other errors.

After the auto calibration, one can turn off Audyssey and just use tone controls. The levels and trims will remain.

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They will both be using the 32 bit AK4458VN DAC just as will the Denon X4200W and X6200W. Price unknown for another few weeks.

Thanks, looks exciting can't wait for some reviews and comparison with the 8802 and new Yamaha cx-5100.
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jdsmoothie,

Can you check with Marantz if Auro2D/3D will be made available as a paid up-grade for the SR-6010? I couldn't find it in the owner's manual. Think the Auro feature has been left out of the SR-6010.

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Just picked up the SR5010 last week. For whatever reason album artwork does not work when using media server. This makes sense for .flac files not tagged properly but this happens with all of the .mp3/.wma files that I have (that are tagged properly) as well. Incidentally, the artwork for these same files work just fine on my Yamaha 2030.

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hiprecked, same here, I was planning to use sr5010 with just two floor speakers. now I'm torn between getting an avr or stereo amp. not sure if sr6010 or sr7010 will change much in terms of pure stereo sound quality. I have a question about sr5010, though. is it possible to have video from one hdmi input and sound from another? e.g., playing on a console and streaming spotify or listening from cd at the same time?
I went over to a Magnolia today and listened to the Arcam 380, Pioneer SC-91 and the SR5010. I listened to all three on some BMW towers and Martin Login electrostatics. CD player was an awesome Arcam FMJ.

I only disliked one of the three, the Pioneer. The Pioneer did not excel at anything, disorganized low end, vocals were father back in the presentation, and the sound was pretty digital.

The SR5010 was consistent with my home experience. I frankly would have sounded better if the Arcam wasn't in the contest. In all fairness, the Arcam was selling at $1900. The Arcam was awesome and should have been. It showed how good an AVR can be.

So my next try will be the NAD T758. I'll compare that to the SR5010. T758 sells at $999 so a pretty fair match price wise. The T758 does not have the feature set of the SR5010, but it should sonically be very strong. More later this week.
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Can you check with Marantz if Auro2D/3D will be made available as a paid up-grade for the SR-6010? I couldn't find it in the owner's manual. Think the Auro feature has been left out of the SR-6010.

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AFAIK, not available.
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Just picked up the SR5010 last week. For whatever reason album artwork does not work when using media server. This makes sense for .flac files not tagged properly but this happens with all of the .mp3/.wma files that I have (that are tagged properly) as well. Incidentally, the artwork for these same files work just fine on my Yamaha 2030.
Artwork on D+M models is limited to a maximum image size of 500x500 pixels.
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I just got my NR1506 on Friday. Spent all weekend trying to play with the settings and am still trying to find the sweet spot. I had the NR1501 before audio output failed on it.

I've noticed that the NR1506 is a bit more quirky to setup than the NR1501. Having a hard time getting the output I like. I think I found a pretty good setting, but I'm constantly making adjustments. Did not have to do that with the NR1501.

One of the things I noticed that seemed to help was disabling Audessey EQ.


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It should be TUNER PRESET CH +not -.


Also I'm new to the Marantz family I just purchased NR1506 and have some questions. How do you turn off Audessey settings and use manual settings?

When commercials come the sound lowers. Where can I changed that?
To control manual settings, I believe you have to go to Options and adjust the settings there (if I recall correctly). You can also adjust the tweeter and bass settings.

To turn off Audessey EQ, I think it's under Setup (or whatever the button is called under Options) > Audio > Audessey.

Keep in mind, you have to make these changes with each input. At least for the Setup. Or was it Options that you have to set for each input?

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Any word on what DAC the sr5010 is using? Pcm1690?

It is on my short list but I at least like to know what I am buying.
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I'm also interested in the Marantz SR5010. But does somebody who owns this receiver know if it's possible to disassemble the wifi antennas?
Because with the antennas the receiver doesn't fit in my tv cabinet. So for me this is very important to know.
I hope somebody can check this for me!
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I'm also interested in the Marantz SR5010. But does somebody who owns this receiver know if it's possible to disassemble the wifi antennas?
Because with the antennas the receiver doesn't fit in my tv cabinet. So for me this is very important to know.
I hope somebody can check this for me!
The antennas fold down horizontally, so you should be good.

Height w/ antennas up: 9.1"
Height w/ antenna folded down: 6.3"
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I'm also interested in the Marantz SR5010. But does somebody who owns this receiver know if it's possible to disassemble the wifi antennas?
Because with the antennas the receiver doesn't fit in my tv cabinet. So for me this is very important to know.
I hope somebody can check this for me!
marijn,

The SR-5010 comes with the the antennas disassembled and the height of the receiver including the feet is 6 and 5/16" (161mm). With the antennas in place the height of the receiver including the feet is 9 and 1/16" (230mm). These dimensions are shown on page 283 of the SR-5010 owner's manual.

What is the available height of your TV cabinet? It's a good idea to leave a few inches of clearance above the receiver to allow heat to escape which will mainly come from the video processing and HDMI board area. If you do not have sufficient headroom above the receiver, might want to implement an active cooling system. A small fan with a thermostat is generally recommended here in AVS.

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SR5010 or not

Im in the early stages up upgrading my whole 5.1 system. The main reason for this is because i will be acquiring a new 50/55 4k tv in the next month or so. I also will be upgrading a 12 year old pair of paradigm titan bookshelf speakers (front) miss mash Def Tech center and Paradigm cinema satellites in the rear. I will be upgrading to the SVS ULTRA series (bookshelf's) or B&W CM series (6s2) any other suggestions are welcome however i know this thread is about the Marantz new line up and that is my main question.
Currently I'm running all of this on a entry Pioneer VSX-520 - when i purchased this unit i really was just going on price alone and didn't really know what i was getting. I've had this unit for about 5 years now and while its adequate for T.V. and movies it really lags, actually it just plain horrible in 2 channel mode and since i have to dedicate only one space for both music and movies i really wanted to have a much better experience with 2 channel music. Ive found most A/V receivers do a decent job with movies but only a select few can also deliver on the music side. I was looking at the Marantz 5010 and wanted to know your thoughts on this receiver for my needs. Maybe the 5009 would work for me but i wasn't sure about the 4k needs and again I'm only sticking to a 5.1 system and really don't need all the atoms and other fancy extras that some of these receivers have. What i want is a Receiver that can power my speakers efficiently for both movies and more importantly for music as well. The reputation for Marantz is what makes me want to try these. I was also looking at the slim line, but thought the extra bi-ampable power of the 5010 / 5009 would be better. Thank you for any advice, ultimately i want a better sounding system than i have and i appreciate any feedback
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1606 sound modes

i just purchased and set up an nr-1606. Everything set up well, and the sound is really good. I'm coming from an onkyo tx-609. The one thing I'm confused about are the sound modes, or lack thereof, on the Marantz. When watching cable, it's almost always Dolby digital plus surround. If I read the manual correctly, it states that the recover can decode all Dolby and DTS sound modes.
The onkyo had dozens of me, many which were pretty useless. But it did have Dolby pl, and DTS neo 6, which were sound modes that I did use from time to time. Am I doing something wrong or does Marantz not do these sound modes?
By the way , I have a 5.1 system setup with definitive speakers and subwoofer. Thanks for any help you could give me.
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Any word on the specs yet? DAC? Price?

The two eight-channel DACs are likely the AKM AK4458VN, already used in some of the new Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, and Integra units.

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Artwork on D+M models is limited to a maximum image size of 500x500 pixels.
Yes, I read that in the manual. Most of the albums I have played conform to this limitation.

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Im in the early stages up upgrading my whole 5.1 system. The main reason for this is because i will be acquiring a new 50/55 4k tv in the next month or so. I also will be upgrading a 12 year old pair of paradigm titan bookshelf speakers (front) miss mash Def Tech center and Paradigm cinema satellites in the rear. I will be upgrading to the SVS ULTRA series (bookshelf's) or B&W CM series (6s2) any other suggestions are welcome however i know this thread is about the Marantz new line up and that is my main question.
Currently I'm running all of this on a entry Pioneer VSX-520 - when i purchased this unit i really was just going on price alone and didn't really know what i was getting. I've had this unit for about 5 years now and while its adequate for T.V. and movies it really lags, actually it just plain horrible in 2 channel mode and since i have to dedicate only one space for both music and movies i really wanted to have a much better experience with 2 channel music. Ive found most A/V receivers do a decent job with movies but only a select few can also deliver on the music side. I was looking at the Marantz 5010 and wanted to know your thoughts on this receiver for my needs. Maybe the 5009 would work for me but i wasn't sure about the 4k needs and again I'm only sticking to a 5.1 system and really don't need all the atoms and other fancy extras that some of these receivers have. What i want is a Receiver that can power my speakers efficiently for both movies and more importantly for music as well. The reputation for Marantz is what makes me want to try these. I was also looking at the slim line, but thought the extra bi-ampable power of the 5010 / 5009 would be better. Thank you for any advice, ultimately i want a better sounding system than i have and i appreciate any feedback
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Welcome to AVS!

In the same boat as you and only have a single space available for both movies and music. Starting with the basics, good sound reproduction begins with the right room and the setup of the speakers. If you have the right room dimensions that will minimize room modes for bass frequencies, you are much better off than the vast majority.

In a rectangular room, the idea is to place the front sound stage (front left, center and front right speakers) along the short wall. Adjust the sub(s) and Main Listening Position (MLP) so that you are neither in the null or peak of the standing waves. Test to the left and right of the MLP, is there much of a difference in the bass response? The intent is to minimize seat to seat variance. Place the sub(s) where the best bass response is going to be relative to the MLP. The easy way to do this is called a sub crawl and there is a youtube video by Axiom Audio that shows how to.

Once you've got the bass response sorted, place the front left, center and front right speaker so that it forms a 60 deg arc relative to the MLP. This will give the best imaging for both "solid" stereo music listening as well as panning left to right in movie soundtracks. For the surround speakers, have them at 120 deg from the MLP. Denon/Marantz has a recommended speaker setup in the owner's manuals and is re-produced below.

5.1 speaker setup:

How well the SR-5010 powers your speakers will depend on the speaker's sensitivity, distance between the speaker to MLP and how loud you like it to be. The following web app gives some indication on the power requirements: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html, try out for 2 channel stereo mode and note how much power you need.

Room correction is another factor to consider and Audyssey is your friend here. After running the auto calibration on the Marantz, the receiver will set the correct levels and trim for each speaker so that reference level is achieved at the MLP. Note that the SR5010 has the step down version called XT, what you really want is XT32 with sub EQ HT that has more filters and will emphasize correction in the bass frequencies where it is more audible.

All new 2015 TV that have 4k will also have HDCP 2.2 with HDMI 2.0a interface ports. The 2014 Marantz models do not have this, so be aware that there could be some compatibility issues with future UHD content.

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i just purchased and set up an nr-1606. Everything set up well, and the sound is really good. I'm coming from an onkyo tx-609. The one thing I'm confused about are the sound modes, or lack thereof, on the Marantz. When watching cable, it's almost always Dolby digital plus surround. If I read the manual correctly, it states that the recover can decode all Dolby and DTS sound modes.
The onkyo had dozens of me, many which were pretty useless. But it did have Dolby pl, and DTS neo 6, which were sound modes that I did use from time to time. Am I doing something wrong or does Marantz not do these sound modes?
By the way , I have a 5.1 system setup with definitive speakers and subwoofer. Thanks for any help you could give me.
Press and hold the MUSIC button on the remote. It will toggle through the various up-mixing modes available.

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Nr 1606 sound modes

I can hold down the music button or the movie button or the game button. It doesn't matter which one, because the same 5 choices comes up....stereo, Dolby digital, Dolby digital surround, multi channel and virtual. Like I said in my original post, I thought the manual said that it decided other Dolby digital and DTS signals as well....like neo 6 and Dolby pl.
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I can hold down the music button or the movie button or the game button. It doesn't matter which one, because the same 5 choices comes up....stereo, Dolby digital, Dolby digital surround, multi channel and virtual. Like I said in my original post, I thought the manual said that it decided other Dolby digital and DTS signals as well....like neo 6 and Dolby pl.
Since your speaker configuration is fixed at 5.1, that is the maximum number of channels that are available for an input source that can up mix to the output.

If your input source is already 5.1 it will exactly match the 5.1 output speaker configuration.

However, if your input source is 2.0 the receiver will be able to up-mix and output as 5.1 to your speakers.

So the surround mode is very dependent on the input source.

Press the INFO button on the remote to check the input signal and how many channels are active? To the right of the input signal is the active speakers, how many are active?

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Nr 1606 sound modes

Thanks for the reply. I have 6 active speakers (including the subwoofer) when I hit the info button. I'm just confused why I had so many sound options on the onkyo since the source ( direct tv) hasn't changed
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...I'm just confused why I had so many sound options on the onkyo since the source ( direct tv) hasn't changed
Up-mixing is very different from DSP sound modes that you maybe referring to.

Some manufacturers such as Onkyo/Yamaha offer these DSP sound modes on the receiver such as disco, concert hall, bathroom/toilet, etc. that simulate a particular venue. Not sure of the sound quality value of DSP sound modes as the original content was certainly not recorded in these particular venues and to distort the source to make sound like it is in one of these particular venues is odd to say the least.

Having said this, some do prefer the DSP modes, and at one time Denon/Marantz did offer them - but not any more. Think jdsmoothie might be able to shed some light on this.

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Im in the early stages up upgrading my whole 5.1 system. The main reason for this is because i will be acquiring a new 50/55 4k tv in the next month or so. I also will be upgrading a 12 year old pair of paradigm titan bookshelf speakers (front) miss mash Def Tech center and Paradigm cinema satellites in the rear. I will be upgrading to the SVS ULTRA series (bookshelf's) or B&W CM series (6s2) any other suggestions are welcome however i know this thread is about the Marantz new line up and that is my main question.
Currently I'm running all of this on a entry Pioneer VSX-520 - when i purchased this unit i really was just going on price alone and didn't really know what i was getting. I've had this unit for about 5 years now and while its adequate for T.V. and movies it really lags, actually it just plain horrible in 2 channel mode and since i have to dedicate only one space for both music and movies i really wanted to have a much better experience with 2 channel music. Ive found most A/V receivers do a decent job with movies but only a select few can also deliver on the music side. I was looking at the Marantz 5010 and wanted to know your thoughts on this receiver for my needs. Maybe the 5009 would work for me but i wasn't sure about the 4k needs and again I'm only sticking to a 5.1 system and really don't need all the atoms and other fancy extras that some of these receivers have. What i want is a Receiver that can power my speakers efficiently for both movies and more importantly for music as well. The reputation for Marantz is what makes me want to try these. I was also looking at the slim line, but thought the extra bi-ampable power of the 5010 / 5009 would be better. Thank you for any advice, ultimately i want a better sounding system than i have and i appreciate any feedback
The HDAM pre-amps in Marantz AVRs is known for providing more detailed playback with 2CH audio sources, so the SR5010 should serve you well in that regard as well as for your movie/TV watching too. Although it will have more power than the slim-line NR1506/1606 models, note that the "bi-amp" feature will not produce any additional power as there is only a single power supply in the AVR. AVScience is both a Marantz and SVS authorized dealer so call for pricing and availability if interested.
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i just purchased and set up an nr-1606. Everything set up well, and the sound is really good. I'm coming from an onkyo tx-609. The one thing I'm confused about are the sound modes, or lack thereof, on the Marantz. When watching cable, it's almost always Dolby digital plus surround. If I read the manual correctly, it states that the recover can decode all Dolby and DTS sound modes.
The onkyo had dozens of me, many which were pretty useless. But it did have Dolby pl, and DTS neo 6, which were sound modes that I did use from time to time. Am I doing something wrong or does Marantz not do these sound modes?
By the way , I have a 5.1 system setup with definitive speakers and subwoofer. Thanks for any help you could give me.
Note that there are only 3 formats generally provided by cable stations: PCM 2.0, DD 2.0, and DD 5.1. Generally, only DVDs and BDs will provide DTS audio tracks. The former Dolby simulation modes (DD PLII, DD PLIIz, DD PLIIx) have been replaced by Dolby Surround. The former DTS simulation mode (DTS Neo:6) will be replaced by the new DTS Neural:X, however, this won't be added until later this fall via a firmware update so until then, you will only see Dolby Surround to upmix stereo 2.0 audio.
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The manual download of the 6010 does not work anymore.
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The SR-5010 comes with the the antennas disassembled and the height of the receiver including the feet is 6 and 5/16" (161mm). With the antennas in place the height of the receiver including the feet is 9 and 1/16" (230mm). These dimensions are shown on page 283 of the SR-5010 owner's manual.

What is the available height of your TV cabinet? It's a good idea to leave a few inches of clearance above the receiver to allow heat to escape which will mainly come from the video processing and HDMI board area. If you do not have sufficient headroom above the receiver, might want to implement an active cooling system. A small fan with a thermostat is generally recommended here in AVS.
Thank you. The problem is the available space at the back side of the receiver. Without antennas it should work and I have some space left for the cables.
The height is 170 mm so that should work. I will buy a fan for some extra cooling. Can I place this fan on the left side of the receiver? Will that be sufficient?
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thanks for the clarification JD. Will DTS neural x work with a 5.1 system. I didn't realize it was replacing DTS:neo. Also, I ran audyssets setup for my system, and it shows a crossover of 150 for my front left and right speakers (definitive 1000). It gave e a 100 crossover for my center channel, and 60 for surrounds. Does that seem about right?
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thanks for the clarification JD. Will DTS neural x work with a 5.1 system. I didn't realize it was replacing DTS:neo. Also, I ran audyssets setup for my system, and it shows a crossover of 150 for my front left and right speakers (definitive 1000). It gave e a 100 crossover for my center channel, and 60 for surrounds. Does that seem about right?

1. Yes, DTS Neural:X will simulate 5.1 audio from a stereo 2.0 signal, otherwise, with an incoming DTS 5.1 signal, there's nothing to simulate.
2. Generally, the FL/FR speakers would have lower crossovers with the surrounds having higher crossovers, but they are set based on how the speakers react given the acoustics of your specific room. I'd suggest running Audyssey at least 2-3 more times, using slightly different mic positions (all grouped within no more than 1-2' from your seated head position) just to see if you get somewhat similar results as making minor mic changes can change the results somewhat. Although the DT 1000 speakers are smaller speakers, I would expect a lower crossover. Are the FL/FR speakers on a stand and angled towards the main listening position (ie. where you personally sit)? If not, do so prior to running Audyssey again.
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