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did you fully pull power? every once in awhile the network gets screwy on the onkyo's and a full power on/off is necessary.


also... maybe provide some details as to what exactly is not working anymore...
I fixed it. I was just venting a bit. It's been a rough week for electronics in my house.

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Since the latest recently released firmware do not have DTS-X upgrade make me think that DTS-X upgrade is not planned in the near future. There seems to be lots of problems for Onkyo to implement this. Maybe we will never se DTS-X in our RZ800.
Onkyo is not the Problem. Its more of an issue with DTS providing the firmware to all the Receiver Manufactures. Other Receivers are having the same issues getting the firmware update.

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DTS-X firmware Update

Its about Time.

Onkyo wishes to inform owners of selected 2015-model and 2016-model network A/V receivers that a firmware update enabling DTS:X™, originally announced for the last quarter of 2015, will be available for download and installation on Wednesday, August 31, 2016.

The firmware update is supported on the following Onkyo products:

Model 2016
• Onkyo: TX-NR555, TX-NR656, TX-RZ610, HT-R695, TX-NR757, TX-RZ710, TX-RZ810, HT-R695/HT-S7805
• Integra: DRX-2, DRX-3, DRX-4, DRX-5

Model 2015
• Onkyo TX-NR646, TX-NR747, TX-RZ800, TX-RZ900
• Integra DTR-30.7, DTR-40.7, DTR-50.7, DTR-60.7, DHC-60.7

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Its about Time.

Onkyo wishes to inform owners of selected 2015-model and 2016-model network A/V receivers that a firmware update enabling DTS:X™, originally announced for the last quarter of 2015, will be available for download and installation on Wednesday, August 31, 2016.

The firmware update is supported on the following Onkyo products:

Model 2016
• Onkyo: TX-NR555, TX-NR656, TX-RZ610, HT-R695, TX-NR757, TX-RZ710, TX-RZ810, HT-R695/HT-S7805
• Integra: DRX-2, DRX-3, DRX-4, DRX-5

Model 2015
• Onkyo TX-NR646, TX-NR747, TX-RZ800, TX-RZ900
• Integra DTR-30.7, DTR-40.7, DTR-50.7, DTR-60.7, DHC-60.7
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Well its the 1st time I've actually seen Onkyo post a specific day of when its going to be released. All they been saying was the by the summer of 2016 it will be released. I did not see this on anybody's posts on this forum so how is this old news?

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Well its the 1st time I've actually seen Onkyo post a specific day of when its going to be released. All they been saying was the by the summer of 2016 it will be released. I did not see this on anybody's posts on this forum so how is this old news?
Just look back I posted it 2 weeks ago.

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Onkyo just announced the DTS X firmware update will be available August 31st

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Ok sorry. You got me there.
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Hi everyone,


I currently have an 818 which was an upgrade from my 805 - both have been great receivers. I run a 7.2 system - so 9.2 doesn't interest me. I was thinking about upgrading but really couldn't find much through searching on how big of an upgrade these receivers would be from my 818. I gain a bit more power, Airplay to run my ITunes losslessly, ability to run digital sources to my Zone 2. I am losing Audysey - how does the new AccuEQ-Advanced compare to that?


Has anyone upgraded from the 818? Is it worth it? What else would I be gaining/losing by doing this?


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Hi everyone,


I currently have an 818 which was an upgrade from my 805 - both have been great receivers. I run a 7.2 system - so 9.2 doesn't interest me. I was thinking about upgrading but really couldn't find much through searching on how big of an upgrade these receivers would be from my 818. I gain a bit more power, Airplay to run my ITunes losslessly, ability to run digital sources to my Zone 2. I am losing Audysey - how does the new AccuEQ-Advanced compare to that?


Has anyone upgraded from the 818? Is it worth it? What else would I be gaining/losing by doing this?


Thanks!
i went this route (818 to rz900 referb) the rz is in every way better than the 818 than perhaps the xt32 rc. i say "perhaps" because even though i don't run any rc in 2ch mode i do with movies and the accu eq does provide everything i desire. the bass had to be toned down some, but other than the xo out of whack i can't say it's been a disappointment. i'm sure if i could graph the two rc software the audy is probably a better outcome. in summary no regrets, and the bluetooth/wireless options are a nice touch.

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I ended up getting the RZ810 at fry's. they had a crazy deal for $699 already and I couldn't pass it up.

One thing that I noticed over the NR727 I am replacing is that the A/V sync now has a negative and positive sync adjustment. Which might solve some of the problems I used to have with HDMI audio sync.

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I'm setting up my RZ800 with some USB powered fans and need some help with the USB power settings. I want the fans to turn off when I turn the 800 off and start when I turn it on. The menu options aren't clear to me. Thanks for any help with this.
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Hey guys,

I recently upgraded my old Onkyo receiver to a new Onkyo RZ900. While I like most of the upgrades, some things are frustrating and not working quite right.

For starters, the sound seems a bit flat, and I'm especially noticing that my bass response is extremely weak. The sub used to shake the room and house, now it's timid.

I went through the initial steps with the supplied microphone, went back in to the settings and adjusted the distances to what they really are.

I read that AccuEQ can cause a flat bass response a few pages back. I couldn't find in the menu or in the instruction manual how to turn this off. Could one of you please explain? I'd appreciate it. I'm an action movie kind of guy, and I'm missing my bass terribly.

Also, the RZ900 has two subwoofer line level out jacks. The instructions only talk about the top one. Is there a difference between the two? Thanks in advance.
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What crossover settings do you recommend with my Infinity beta 50, infinity c360 center and beta 20 surround?

Why can't I select 8ohm speakers in the rz800 receiver, only 6ohm or 4ohm!

What do you do when you bought a new receiver and plugged everything in my case one center, 2 front and 2 surround speakers !?

It is enough to run with the mic and that's it, or what do you do more for settings?

Does anyone has the same speaker setup 5.0 who can say what settings u use?
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If I have 5.0 speaker setup with big fronts and I set them to full band in crossover and the rest to 80hz crossover and then I turn phase matching ON how does that effekt the bass to the speakers I selected 80hz crossover?

I hope you understand! Does phase match on effect my crossover settings?

When I turn on phase matching I get more bass but I only want more bass to the big fronts!

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I'm considering the RZ900 now that the DTS: X upgrade appears imminent.

Has anyone experienced any handshake issues when connecting units directly to the Onkyo for playback of 4K source material (with HDR where applicable) particularly with the Samsung UBD-K8500, the Roku 4K and the DirecTV C61K (4K receiver)? I've been reading threads for other receivers and many units seem to have issues with these devices.
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I'm considering the RZ900 now that the DTS: X upgrade appears imminent.

Has anyone experienced any handshake issues when connecting units directly to the Onkyo for playback of 4K source material (with HDR where applicable) particularly with the Samsung UBD-K8500, the Roku 4K and the DirecTV C61K (4K receiver)? I've been reading threads for other receivers and many units seem to have issues with these devices.
I have both the Samsung K8500 and the DirecTV C61K ruining through my RZ800. The only one that gives me issues is the C61K. I attribute it to DirecTV and my TV. I have an LG E6 and often have handshake issues when switching between 1080 and 4K. The 800 preforms flawlessly with the signals. I've only run 1 UHD disk in the K8500 and the 800 had no issues passing the ATMOS track and 4K signal to the 800.
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I have both the Samsung K8500 and the DirecTV C61K ruining through my RZ800. The only one that gives me issues is the C61K. I attribute it to DirecTV and my TV. I have an LG E6 and often have handshake issues when switching between 1080 and 4K. The 800 preforms flawlessly with the signals. I've only run 1 UHD disk in the K8500 and the 800 had no issues passing the ATMOS track and 4K signal to the 800.
Thanks for the reply. One more question - Does the OSD give you information about the incoming/outgoing video signal? For example, does it state 4K60, 4K30, 1080p24, etc? Also, does it display the color depth - 8 bit, 10 bit, 12 bit?
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Hey guys,

I recently upgraded my old Onkyo receiver to a new Onkyo RZ900. While I like most of the upgrades, some things are frustrating and not working quite right.

For starters, the sound seems a bit flat, and I'm especially noticing that my bass response is extremely weak. The sub used to shake the room and house, now it's timid.

I went through the initial steps with the supplied microphone, went back in to the settings and adjusted the distances to what they really are.

I read that AccuEQ can cause a flat bass response a few pages back. I couldn't find in the menu or in the instruction manual how to turn this off. Could one of you please explain? I'd appreciate it. I'm an action movie kind of guy, and I'm missing my bass terribly.

Also, the RZ900 has two subwoofer line level out jacks. The instructions only talk about the top one. Is there a difference between the two? Thanks in advance.
I found the overall volume to everything to be less than punchy, even after running the AccuEQ setup, disabling it on the front L+R as has been recommended here. Another post here suggested going to Setup->Source->Intellivolume and boosting it. I set it to the highest setting and it is performing much like I expected. I also went into the EQ and set it up for all of my existing channels. This brought it more in line with what I expected. Give the above a shot and see how it does for you.
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I have the 810... has anyone experienced weird garbled audio on some shows/commercials? I'm connected to a uverse DVR. That's the only place where i see it occurring at all. not on bluray, mp4, etc... I notice that the amp does some type of switching (creates an audible switch noise) when going between a show/movie and a commercial at times. Assuming that's the variation in the audio signal.

The issue is fairly minor and goes away on the next commercial or by switching the channel back and forth once.

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If I have 5.0 speaker setup with big fronts and I set them to full band in crossover and the rest to 80hz crossover and then I turn phase matching ON how does that effekt the bass to the speakers I selected 80hz crossover?

I hope you understand! Does phase match on effect my crossover settings?

When I turn on phase matching I get more bass but I only want more bass to the big fronts!

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From RZ900 Manual: (static.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/116466.pdf)

Resolutions supported by HDMI
■ HDMI IN1 to IN5 (when using in the main room) (PAGE: EN-25)

4K (3840×2160p) 24/25/30 Hz RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 Color Depth: 8/10/12/16 bit
4K (3840×2160p) 50/60 Hz RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 Color Depth: 8bit

With [email protected], this receiver can only has 8-bit color depth
Is this an error? SC-95 and AVR-X4200W both can do 24-bit in [email protected]
This is not an error...it's the limit of HDMI specs. Nothing can pass 4K 4:4:4 50/60Hz above 8 bits via HDMI...it's outside the specs. UHD BDs are encoded 4:2:0 10 bits so not a problem.
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Thanks for the reply. One more question - Does the OSD give you information about the incoming/outgoing video signal? For example, does it state 4K60, 4K30, 1080p24, etc? Also, does it display the color depth - 8 bit, 10 bit, 12 bit?
Yes. Its somewhere under setup.
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I found the overall volume to everything to be less than punchy, even after running the AccuEQ setup, disabling it on the front L+R as has been recommended here. Another post here suggested going to Setup->Source->Intellivolume and boosting it. I set it to the highest setting and it is performing much like I expected. I also went into the EQ and set it up for all of my existing channels. This brought it more in line with what I expected. Give the above a shot and see how it does for you.
Thanks for the reply JWolf, much appreciated. Going through the on screen menu again tonight, I still do not see how to disable AccuEQ. I see how to run it, but not disable it. People state disable it, as if it's an easy toggle switch on the On-screen menu. Maybe I'm just blind on this one, and I'm usually pretty tech savy, but I can't seem to figure this one out. If you could explicit explain on how to disable it, that would be great.

I have not tried Intellivolume yet. Reading the description of what it does, I'm not seeing how this would help.

Tonight I also found the 'Phase Matching Bass' by pressing the tone button a few times until it showed up on the receiver display. This added some Ooomph to my bass for sure. Why on earth I couldn't find the 'Phase Matching Bass' on the On-Screen menu is mind boggling. I also added 2db in the Equalizer section. I'll crank a movie soon and see if I'm satisfied.

Thanks again.
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Thanks for the reply JWolf, much appreciated. Going through the on screen menu again tonight, I still do not see how to disable AccuEQ. I see how to run it, but not disable it. People state disable it, as if it's an easy toggle switch on the On-screen menu. Maybe I'm just blind on this one, and I'm usually pretty tech savy, but I can't seem to figure this one out. If you could explicit explain on how to disable it, that would be great.

I have not tried Intellivolume yet. Reading the description of what it does, I'm not seeing how this would help.

Tonight I also found the 'Phase Matching Bass' by pressing the tone button a few times until it showed up on the receiver display. This added some Ooomph to my bass for sure. Why on earth I couldn't find the 'Phase Matching Bass' on the On-Screen menu is mind boggling. I also added 2db in the Equalizer section. I'll crank a movie soon and see if I'm satisfied.

Thanks again.

this is covered in the manual. pull up the quick menu, arrow down to the accuEq option, press enter. then push arrow right until it says "off" or whichever option you want. on, no L+R, off.

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Atmos problem

Hi!

I just bought RZ900. Everything is fine but this one:

My system:
- Onkyo reciever (rz900)
- 5.1 speaker setup (without any additional speaker - high or rear)
- Media player and BD player - both connected with HDMI and bitstream audio output.

When I played Dolby Atmos soundtrack with the configuration 5.1 speaker setup (I choose this in onkyo's menu) I get the following on screen display:

Input
Dolby TrueHD
7.1 ch B

Output:
Dolby TrueHD
5.1 ch

When I set my speaker setup to 6.1 or 7.1 in the reciever menu - nothing else - I get dolby atmos working very well (both input and output said Dolby Atmos and the little blue light on on the reciever etc), but when I changed the speaker settings back to 5.1 I only get Dolby TrueHD sound. So i guess this is a software bug, and it is very big dissapointment for me, that I cannot enjoy my new hardware as I should be.

Of course I updated the reciever firmware with the newest one, but nothing changed.

Please confirm, that with 5.1 speaker setup, Dolby Atmos should work as with 6.1 for example.

Thank you for your help!
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Hi!

I just bought RZ900. Everything is fine but this one:

My system:
- Onkyo reciever (rz900)
- 5.1 speaker setup (without any additional speaker - high or rear)
- Media player and BD player - both connected with HDMI and bitstream audio output.

When I played Dolby Atmos soundtrack with the configuration 5.1 speaker setup (I choose this in onkyo's menu) I get the following on screen display:

Input
Dolby TrueHD
7.1 ch B

Output:
Dolby TrueHD
5.1 ch

When I set my speaker setup to 6.1 or 7.1 in the reciever menu - nothing else - I get dolby atmos working very well (both input and output said Dolby Atmos and the little blue light on on the reciever etc), but when I changed the speaker settings back to 5.1 I only get Dolby TrueHD sound. So i guess this is a software bug, and it is very big dissapointment for me, that I cannot enjoy my new hardware as I should be.

Of course I updated the reciever firmware with the newest one, but nothing changed.

Please confirm, that with 5.1 speaker setup, Dolby Atmos should work as with 6.1 for example.

Thank you for your help!


1. Read through the entire manual. it is extremely helpful with regards to atmos.
2. from the manual:
Audio output of connected players






To enjoy digital surround sound including Dolby


Digital and DTS, audio output should be set to


"Bitstream output" on the connected Blu-ray Disc


Player or other device. Depending on the settings


on the Blu-ray Disc Player there may be cases when


Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Atmos, and DTS-HD Master


Audio audio is not output according to the format of


the source. In this case, in the Blu-ray Disc Player


settings try setting "BD video supplementary sound"


(or secondary sound) to "Off". Change the listening


mode after changing the setting to confirm.






So that might be an issue for you in some cases.


3. from page 57 of the manual:
Input Format Listening Mode


Dolby Atmos


●● The listening mode of Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD can be selected if back speakers or height speakers are not connected.




So perhaps that happens somewhat automatically when you are in with the 5.1 mode.


4. more from the manual:
The number of channels is not displayed when the input


signal is "Dolby Atmos" format.




5. if you have only 5.1 speakers, dolby atmos doesn't even do anything for you. It's possible that when you set it to 6.1 or 7.1, that the software thinks you MIGHT be able to pull off atmos because the additional 1 or 2 speakers might be used as height speakers.


So do you have a 5.1 setup or something else?

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Thanks for the reply. One more question - Does the OSD give you information about the incoming/outgoing video signal? For example, does it state 4K60, 4K30, 1080p24, etc? Also, does it display the color depth - 8 bit, 10 bit, 12 bit?
Two ways to get to this: Hit Q on the remote then Information->Audio or Hit the Display button the remote.
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Hi. I just bought an RZ-800. Quick question....Is there a way to save the audio settings in the "quick start" section? I want to keep the center channel and sub levels the same every time I listen to internet radio. When I turn the receiver off and then back on, those levels always reset. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Hi. I just bought an RZ-800. Quick question....Is there a way to save the audio settings in the "quick start" section? I want to keep the center channel and sub levels the same every time I listen to internet radio. When I turn the receiver off and then back on, those levels always reset. Any thoughts? Thanks.


They should be saving automatically. you might want to do a full reset.

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