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post #91 of 113 Old 08-11-2015, 10:25 AM
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I currently have a sony str dn 1050. I've always heard people saying audyssey is the best room correction. I love the sony's sound, am interested in the low volume sound quality. Would the Denon x1200/2200 sound better at lower volumes than the Sony?
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I'm curious to know how you listened to these different receivers. Same speakers etc? How did one sound better than the other?
Well I head them on Definitive Pro 1000 series Speakers as I have the same ones. They played a blu-ray movie and some music. They also set them all to the same volume. The Yamaha felt quiet to me while the blu-ray was being played vs the Marantz. Also when listening to Music the Marantz sounded better to me but Best Buy has all of the models on display and they will give you a listening sample so that you can decide.
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Well I head them on Definitive Pro 1000 series Speakers as I have the same ones. They played a blu-ray movie and some music. They also set them all to the same volume. The Yamaha felt quiet to me while the blu-ray was being played vs the Marantz. Also when listening to Music the Marantz sounded better to me but Best Buy has all of the models on display and they will give you a listening sample so that you can decide.
Hi, when you mean "quiet" does it mean that the volume needs to be turned up a bit just to get the same loudness as the other receivers or it's just that it doesn't have the same bass / boom / punch as the other receivers? I have Sony DN1050 and I like its sound quality on action movies and been eyeing on some Yamaha receivers recently for possible upgrade. If it's just a matter of turning up the volume a few notches to achieve the same loudness, then it's no big deal for me. But if it's the bass and the boom sound quality...
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Hi, when you mean "quiet" does it mean that the volume needs to be turned up a bit just to get the same loudness as the other receivers or it's just that it doesn't have the same bass / boom / punch as the other receivers? I have Sony DN1050 and I like its sound quality on action movies and been eyeing on some Yamaha receivers recently for possible upgrade. If it's just a matter of turning up the volume a few notches to achieve the same loudness, then it's no big deal for me. But if it's the bass and the boom sound quality...
Yes I had to turn up the volume to get the same loudness. I am also going to have another listen before I buy today to make sure.
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So I wimped out on the A850.
I went to Best Buy to get one and they had the A750 on sale for $599 and the A850 was $899. I don't see how I'm getting $300 more in the A850. Plus I had a movers 10 percent off coupon so I got the AA750 for around $540. My previous receiver was a Yamaha RX-477 and after looking at Denon and Marantz decided I preferred Yamahas' reputation for quality. I'm getting Chane speakers for the new receiver.
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So I wimped out on the A850.
I went to Best Buy to get one and they had the A750 on sale for $599 and the A850 was $899. I don't see how I'm getting $300 more in the A850. Plus I had a movers 10 percent off coupon so I got the AA750 for around $540. My previous receiver was a Yamaha RX-477 and after looking at Denon and Marantz decided I preferred Yamahas' reputation for quality. I'm getting Chane speakers for the new receiver.
congrats I am going to end up getting the Marantz SR-5010 threw avs science. I want Dolby atoms and DTS:X but don't want to increase my budget for the A1050 so Yamaha is out of my budget so I am going with the Marantz, plus i like the sound of the Marantz.
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congrats I am going to end up getting the Marantz SR-5010 threw avs science. I want Dolby atoms and DTS:X but don't want to increase my budget for the A1050 so Yamaha is out of my budget so I am going with the Marantz, plus i like the sound of the Marantz.
Sounds good. I'm happy with the A750 and don't care much about higher level features. I'm still 3.1 and in no rush to do anything else for now. Maybe 5.1. I looked at the Marantz but Yamaha reliability is important to me. The 5010 does seem like a good price point. I think maybe the 1050 is about $100 too much right now but all the new receiver prices will go down.
I did get the Chane bookshelf and center speakers and they sound great. At least to me but I'm a neophyte.
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An update to my update...The A750 sound via HDMI died on me so I took it back to Best Buy and exchanged it for an A850. I like having the additional functionality even if I don't understand it all and only paid $242 more than I paid for the 750.
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An update to my update...The A750 sound via HDMI died on me so I took it back to Best Buy and exchanged it for an A850. I like having the additional functionality even if I don't understand it all and only paid $242 more than I paid for the 750.
Man, after reading this whole thread I was just about to jump on the 750, until your last post arrrggh! Are you happy with the 850?? Now I don't know if I should get the 850 or 750. I was considering the Onkyo 646, but seems like they still have more quality issues. Looking on amazon, it seems like the 750 is having hdmi problems, wow. In Limbo now, what do you suggest?
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I'm not an expert but I assumed my 750 was an aberration. I got an 850 because they didn't have 750s in stock and the 850 was on sale. I can't imagine there is a difference in hdmi ports between the two. I'm guess that this is a new receiver so some of the first ones aren't made correctly. That's the best I can tell you. I would get a 750 again.
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Man, after reading this whole thread I was just about to jump on the 750, until your last post arrrggh! Are you happy with the 850?? Now I don't know if I should get the 850 or 750. I was considering the Onkyo 646, but seems like they still have more quality issues. Looking on amazon, it seems like the 750 is having hdmi problems, wow. In Limbo now, what do you suggest?
Look at the Denon X2200 its quite nice. I have the Marantz SR-5010.
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I don't think there is need to switch from Yamaha but if I did I would probably go for the X2200. The Marantz sounds pretty good too especially for music. From what I have seen Yamaha quality and service is very good.
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Man, after reading this whole thread I was just about to jump on the 750, until your last post arrrggh! Are you happy with the 850?? Now I don't know if I should get the 850 or 750. I was considering the Onkyo 646, but seems like they still have more quality issues. Looking on amazon, it seems like the 750 is having hdmi problems, wow. In Limbo now, what do you suggest?
I bought the Onkyo 646 last month, and it's been just fine. I read a lot of different reviews on the newest Denons, Onkyos, Pioneers, Yamahas, etc... I didn't see any 2015 models that stood out as obviously having lots of issues over the others (I found people reporting issues with EVERY brand out there). Lots of satisfied customers never post reviews, so you often hear from the vocal minority of angry customers. Onkyo's reliability problems were a few years back and they stepped up to fix the issue. It's really a crap-shoot whether you get a bad unit on any of these brands, which is probably in the 1-2% of all sales if that. After a month or so, your chances of an issue are probably pretty low, so I figured buying locally was worth the ease of return in the event of an issue. If you're really concerned about reliability, factor an extended warranty into your price.
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Yamaha has a reputation for reliability. The Aventage models have a 3 year warranty.
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Thank you guys for all your advice and help, pulled the trigger last night on the Denon S710W. Seems to have everthing that I need right now until I start building my Theater Room In about a year, and get new equipment.

It had the least amount of complaints so far, and seems like a more simple unit, so hopefully that will play out as more reliable?
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good value choice and enjoy it!! I have the S900W from last year which was one minor step up and VG receiver & lots of goodies. My only minor complaint, lacks the punch of my current & former Yamaha AVRs. The New Denons also have Atmos & DTS:X which will be good to have in 1-2 years as these go more mainstream. My S900W does not
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Look at the Denon X2200 its quite nice. I have the Marantz SR-5010.
I'm going to be upgrading my receiver in about a week and had my eye on the Denon X2200. I'm also going to get the Definitive Technology 8020's for my fronts. When I went to Best Buy recently, the Magnolia guy was suggesting that Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A750 you guys have been talking about. I'm really confused about one thing. The Yamaha is only 735 watts and the Denon is 1295 watts. I don't understand how the Yamaha will be powerful enough to drive a decent 5.1 config. The reason I'm replacing my current receiver (Yamaha V377) is because it's too weak for me and found out later that it only puts out about 40 watts per channel when using 5.1.

Can someone explain how that 750 has enough power to drive those Def Techs?
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Best Buy are clueless about these things and they have really odd ways of describing receivers depending on what they want to sell the most. I have an A850 and the A750 is more than powerful enough for 5.1. or 7.2 for that matter. The 377 is Yamaha's lowest end receiver but it also has enough power for most 5.1. unless you are using some big hoinkin power loving speakers. In which case you probably didn't buy Yamaha's cheapest receiver anyway.
Use Crutchfield's comparisons and the vendors sites not anything from Best Buy. The difference in watts between these two isn't even worth mentioning. Plus people get way more hung up on watts than they should.
The Denon is 95 watts per channel and the Yamaha is 90. Both have 7 channels but that rating is for two channels.
Don't go by what Best Buys silly cards say on the shelves.
The X2200 is a fine receiver but I bought a Yamaha because they have a higher reputation for quality and reliability and a better app. I would certainly be fine with an X2200 though.

See this comparison on Crutchfield.
http://www.crutchfield.com/compare_0...015-Model.html





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I'm going to be upgrading my receiver in about a week and had my eye on the Denon X2200. I'm also going to get the Definitive Technology 8020's for my fronts. When I went to Best Buy recently, the Magnolia guy was suggesting that Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A750 you guys have been talking about. I'm really confused about one thing. The Yamaha is only 735 watts and the Denon is 1295 watts. I don't understand how the Yamaha will be powerful enough to drive a decent 5.1 config. The reason I'm replacing my current receiver (Yamaha V377) is because it's too weak for me and found out later that it only puts out about 40 watts per channel when using 5.1.

Can someone explain how that 750 has enough power to drive those Def Techs?
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Marantz in same price range guarantees 70% of rated wattage when driving all 7 channels. Most other AVRs push ~ 50% at best


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This thread is almost a month old, but my question doesn't really justify a new thread. Do you think the Marantz SR-5010 would power 250 watt JBL 590 towers fine, as part of a 5.1 system? If not, I will likely have to get something like a Yamaha RX-V779 and an amp.

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This thread is almost a month old, but my question doesn't really justify a new thread. Do you think the Marantz SR-5010 would power 250 watt JBL 590 towers fine, as part of a 5.1 system? If not, I will likely have to get something like a Yamaha RX-V779 and an amp.
Depends on the size of your room and how loud you listen to audio. At 6-ohm, 92db, those speakers on average are drawing <10W so in most cases, the SR5010 has plenty of power.
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Depends on the size of your room and how loud you listen to audio. At 6-ohm, 92db, those speakers on average are drawing <10W so in most cases, the SR5010 has plenty of power.
I think I'll just see for myself, I can always amp in the future. Email sent, btw.
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Well after my Onkyo 609 crapped out with the network chip/hdmi issue, I decided to look for a new receiver. Picked up the Yamaha RX679 but the sound died after two weeks. They were out of stock so I got it swapped out for the Aventage A750 for another $30. So far I really like this receiver, it sounds great, has lots of manual audio tweak options, no CEC issues, no HDMI handshake issues, no audio problems, and it runs far cooler than my Onkyo ever did.
Over a month in and I'm happy with it.

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