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Any reviews anywhere. I want to know how much power it puts out on the test bench...
Likely no different than the SR7008 test bench results: 2CH @ 122W, 5CH @ 101W, 7CH @ 69W @0.1% THD
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The Denon X4200W and X6200W use the same DAC while the X7200WA uses multiple AK4490s.
Are they differential DACs in the x7200WA or something?
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Are they differential DACs in the x7200WA or something?
Better quality, yes, as would be expected as the X7200WA is the "flagship" D+M AVR model just as the AV8802A which also uses the AK4490 is the "flagship" pre/pro.
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I would like to preorder this receiver as well. Can someone please send me the link where this is possible?

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Any reviews anywhere. I want to know how much power it puts out on the test bench...
The SR7008 measured this way on a Sound and Vision test:

2 channels continuously driven, 8 ohms (watts @ 0.1% / 1.0% THD): 122.5 / 148.0
2 channels continuously driven, 4 ohms (watts at 0.1% / 1.0% THD): 195.4 / 216.8
5 channels continuously driven, 8 ohms (watts at 0.1% / 1.0% THD): 101.2 / 111.5
7 channels continuously driven, 8 ohms (watts at 0.1% / 1.0% THD): 68.8 / 82.2

Read more at http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...MoEwhM6ac2u.99
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Disappointed to see that Marantz are no longer using toroidal transformers in their receivers, and nor are Denon. I've been thinking about replacing my SR8002 but the 2015 flagships make me worry that I'd be experiencing a sonic step down from what I've already got.

Is there a reason they're going without toroidal power now? It seems that the only way to get it in 2015 would be to go via costly separates (the stunning AV8802 etc).

I absolutely love the sound of my SR8002 and am only looking to upgrade for the sake of 3D and 4K pass-through, network / streaming, Atmos etc.
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I would like to preorder this receiver as well. Can someone please send me the link where this is possible?

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Why pre-order? It's been available for a few weeks now. PM for more info.
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Disappointed to see that Marantz are no longer using toroidal transformers in their receivers, and nor are Denon. I've been thinking about replacing my SR8002 but the 2015 flagships make me worry that I'd be experiencing a sonic step down from what I've already got.

Is there a reason they're going without toroidal power now? It seems that the only way to get it in 2015 would be to go via costly separates (the stunning AV8802 etc).

I absolutely love the sound of my SR8002 and am only looking to upgrade for the sake of 3D and 4K pass-through, network / streaming, Atmos etc.
I believe I wrote a reply to a similar question like in the Denon 7200 thread:

"It's all about cost, and the first thing to give in the current economy is the power section.
Toroidals cost $$, and most consumers won't notice.
It's only a AVR after all, so one cannot expect it to give the same results as a solid power amp.
These days, consumers want all the features but do not want a price increase. So what is compromised is the power section, which is something many consumers do not notice, especially when they look at the specs and see "wow, it has nine channels of 160W per channel".

Not too many reviewers measure the power supply too, and amps change so often, it seems we won't be seeing a proper review of this amp during it's lifetime..

Even so, if it can generate half of it's rated power per channel, that should be enough for most mid-range HT speaker setups. After all most consumers don't run all the channels at the same volume, nor do they run their speakers full-range. Many have one or even two subs to help take the load off the amp."
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Regardless what the 7010 is rated on paper or the test bench, I can attest the 7010 will rock the neighborhood as easy as the beloved 4520 did, every input reads the same volume level as before, not much difference at all in that respect, I say go for it and enjoy
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When to expect review for this model?
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AVForums should have one up in a few days as the reviewer has done the unboxing video and said the review should follow soon.
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Here's Pete's review: http://peteswrite.blogspot.com/2015/...eview.html?m=1


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The Denon X4200W and X6200W use the same DAC while the X7200WA uses multiple AK4490s.
Does the Marantz sr7010 sport the better DAC?


Although both the Denon x6200w and Marantz sr7010 cost about the same, which would you recommend for critical music listening? Flaws between them?
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Does the Marantz sr7010 sport the better DAC?


Although both the Denon x6200w and Marantz sr7010 cost about the same, which would you recommend for critical music listening? Flaws between them?
Its all in here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...-s-thread.html
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Does the Marantz sr7010 sport the better DAC?


Although both the Denon x6200w and Marantz sr7010 cost about the same, which would you recommend for critical music listening? Flaws between them?
1. Yes.
2. SR7010. Many agree that the HDAM pre-amps in the Marantz SR series provide for a more detailed music listening experience.

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SR7010 9.2 setup 5.1 material

Is it possible to enhance DD5.1 content with DSX to add front Wide AND have Dolby Surround also fill in Back Surround channels?
As an SR7010 owner I find that DD+DSX setting is possible, but not DD+DSX+DolbySurround.
That is why upon using Front Wide, the Back Surround channels remain silene (in case of DD5.1 input of course).

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Is it possible to enhance DD5.1 content with DSX to add front Wide AND have Dolby Surround also fill in Back Surround channels?
As an SR7010 owner I find that DD+DSX setting is possible, but not DD+DSX+DolbySurround.
That is why upon using Front Wide, the Back Surround channels remain silene (in case of DD5.1 input of course).

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Nope.
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Nope.
Ok, got it.
When playing DD5.1 or DD7.1 content I am able to extend to 9.1 using DSX.
Upon using DD5.1 or DD7.1 and DSU I am able to upmix to 7.1.2 or 7.1.4.
Not sure yet if it is possible to upmix also to front Wides when playing 'real' Atmos content.
Then it would be possible to get 9.1.2 using an additional amplifier.

I tested my 9.1.2 setup when playing DD5.1 by adding an additional amp to connect FL en FR. Furthermore I connected Height 1 to ceiling speakers and defined my Front Height as Top Front Ceiling speakers. Not completely correct but all speakers get signal by doing so.
Just faking the Front Wides as being Top Front speakers is a nice workaround to get all 11 speakers going by upmixing DD5.1, DD7.1 and even stereo.
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Ok, got it.
When playing DD5.1 or DD7.1 content I am able to extend to 9.1 using DSX.
Upon using DD5.1 or DD7.1 and DSU I am able to upmix to 7.1.2 or 7.1.4.
Not sure yet if it is possible to upmix also to front Wides when playing 'real' Atmos content.
Then it would be possible to get 9.1.2 using an additional amplifier.

I tested my 9.1.2 setup when playing DD5.1 by adding an additional amp to connect FL en FR. Furthermore I connected Height 1 to ceiling speakers and defined my Front Height as Top Front Ceiling speakers. Not completely correct but all speakers get signal by doing so.
Just faking the Front Wides as being Top Front speakers is a nice workaround to get all 11 speakers going by upmixing DD5.1, DD7.1 and even stereo.

Audio is directed to the Front Wide speakers when playing an Atmos BD.
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Audio is directed to the Front Wide speakers when playing an Atmos BD.
Tested with ATMOS content and yes, 9.2.2 channels occupied.
At first I experienced no sound from the Top and Front Wide speakers. However, with ATMOS the content is driven to the speakers only when really needed.
That is what I experienced while putting my ear to those speakers thinkin' "why doesn't this work".
Dolby Atmos really is a true new experience. Now I am very curious how DTS:X will sound. For this we'll have to wait until feb/march.
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Dolby Atmos tested

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Audio is directed to the Front Wide speakers when playing an Atmos BD.
Tested with ATMOS content and yes, 9.2.2 channels occupied.
At first I experienced no sound from the Top and Front Wide speakers. However, with ATMOS the content is driven to the speakers only when really needed.
That is what I experienced while putting my ear to those speakers thinkin' "why doesn't this work".
Dolby Atmos really is a true new experience. Now I am very curious how DTS:X will sound. For this we'll have to wait until feb/march.
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I now have this receiver, sold my SR7005.

The first thing I notice is the subwoofer output is louder.

The second thing is that the Dolby surround for two channel sources is not as good as DLPII. The later isolated lead vocals in center very clearly. With the 7010 and Dolby surround' vocals in center sound recessed. I am very disappointed with this.

Overall older models are just as good if not better audio wise.
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I now have this receiver, sold my SR7005.

The first thing I notice is the subwoofer output is louder.

The second thing is that the Dolby surround for two channel sources is not as good as DLPII. The later isolated lead vocals in center very clearly. With the 7010 and Dolby surround' vocals in center sound recessed. I am very disappointed with this.

Overall older models are just as good if not better audio wise.
Same here dolby surround suks compared to dlpl2, hopefully dts neural helps when updated, but if you play with the multichannel stereo you can get it closer, pl2 did wonders for pandora or highly compressed music, of course on any good quality cds, sacd, everything then comes to life on the the 7010.Please dts give us what we are missing !
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Same here dolby surround suks compared to dlpl2, hopefully dts neural helps when updated, but if you play with the multichannel stereo you can get it closer, pl2 did wonders for pandora or highly compressed music, of course on any good quality cds, sacd, everything then comes to life on the the 7010.Please dts give us what we are missing !
DTS and/or a Dolby firmware update...
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Same here dolby surround suks compared to dlpl2, hopefully dts neural helps when updated, but if you play with the multichannel stereo you can get it closer, pl2 did wonders for pandora or highly compressed music, of course on any good quality cds, sacd, everything then comes to life on the the 7010.Please dts give us what we are missing !
DTS neural sucks.
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DTS neural sucks.
DTS X and neural will be updated starting March 4th on the 7010, did you mean auro ?
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7100 vs. 6100

I'm deciding between these two models. I know the 7100 will do 7.2.4 by running 2 of the reveiver's pre-outs into a 2-channel amp.But couldn't I do the same thing with the 6100 by using 4 pre-outs into a 4-channel amp?. I currently own an older 7.1 receiver but it has 7.1 pre-inputs. What do you think?
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I'm deciding between these two models. I know the 7100 will do 7.2.4 by running 2 of the reveiver's pre-outs into a 2-channel amp.But couldn't I do the same thing with the 6100 by using 4 pre-outs into a 4-channel amp?. I currently own an older 7.1 receiver but it has 7.1 pre-inputs. What do you think?

Nope. Either model can only expand by 2CH.
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1. Yes.
2. SR7010. Many agree that the HDAM pre-amps in the Marantz SR series provide for a more detailed music listening experience.
I am NOT happy with 7010 at all. VERY BRIGHT. SR7005 sounded much better. Marantz have lost their warm sound
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Today my Marantz sr7010 is at home, but now have a problem, i'm with 9.0 speakers - 4 high
When i play movie with 7.1 way TML and TMR is not active, when i use A-DSX mode is active ???
When star lissen music and want to play all channel stereo only 5 speakers is active, 4 high is disabled?
Please some wone to help to solve problems.


With my old yamaha rx-a2040 when is playing movie with dsp mode adventure or sci-fi, my all spekers 9 is actived !

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From where i find option Center Spread - on, when i play Atmos movie ?
And any chance to play only with Audyssey DSX ( no A-DSX) ?

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