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Great info...thanks! Are you using ARC for 2CH analog too or is that even a possibility?


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Yes, you can use ARC for 2CH. It can be turned on or off in the input set up.
I am currently using it with my Turntable input.
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HELP Firmware Update Problem

Need some guidance if anyone else ran into this while trying to update the firmware. I have the MRX 1120 and everything was updating correctly and then when it got to the MCU update it stops at 49% and then a File Error .fw comes up on the panel. I have deleted the file on the USB and reinstalled and it automatically starts at MCU update and errors after 49% every time. I have to unplug the unit because it stays on now and is unresponsive with the File Error .fw displayed.

I tried a hard reset and the unit boots right up looking for the USB update. There is no way around this. Anyone else run into this or know a workaround or solution?

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Yes, you can use ARC for 2CH. It can be turned on or off in the input set up.
I am currently using it with my Turntable input.

Are you using Anthem Logic Music?


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Need some guidance if anyone else ran into this while trying to update the firmware. I have the MRX 1120 and everything was updating correctly and then when it got to the MCU update it stops at 49% and then a File Error .fw comes up on the panel. I have deleted the file on the USB and reinstalled and it automatically starts at MCU update and errors after 49% every time. I have to unplug the unit because it stays on now and is unresponsive with the File Error .fw displayed.

I tried a hard reset and the unit boots right up looking for the USB update. There is no way around this. Anyone else run into this or know a workaround or solution?
Have you tried re-downloading the file onto a different USB drive? That'd be the first thing I'd try.

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Have you tried re-downloading the file onto a different USB drive? That'd be the first thing I'd try.
Which brand or model do you recommend or has worked for you? The last one I bought and tried was Sandisk Cruzfit.

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Hi guys, new to the thread. I have the MRX 1120. Do either of the USB ports support external hard drive media files, like playing movies or music on an external hard drive?

My Blu-ray player supports this function but freezes a lot and I'm looking for a different media player.

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Re: firmware updates... not a fan of this interface.

Anthem seems to have a love / hate thing for USB sticks. Some people have bad luck with USB 3.0 memory sticks in general, others seem to skate by. Some seem to have good luck with USB 2.0 memory sticks but not all. It feels haphazard. If this unit is that fussy, why didn't Anthem include one that should work in the box? I mean, seriously, the cost of a memory stick is a rounding error on this transaction! But enough of my whining.

I've had good luck with an ADATA S102/16GB USB 3.0 formatted as FAT32. So far.


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Hi guys, new to the thread. I have the MRX 1120. Do either of the USB ports support external hard drive media files, like playing movies or music on an external hard drive?

My Blu-ray player supports this function but freezes a lot and I'm looking for a different media player.
I don't think so. The manual says the one on the front is for firmware updates, and the one on the back is for factory service.


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Re: firmware updates... not a fan of this interface.

Anthem seems to have a love / hate thing for USB sticks. Some people have bad luck with USB 3.0 memory sticks in general, others seem to skate by. Some seem to have good luck with USB 2.0 memory sticks but not all. It feels haphazard. If this unit is that fussy, why didn't Anthem include one that should work in the box? I mean, seriously, the cost of a memory stick is a rounding error on this transaction! But enough of my whining.

I've had good luck with an ADATA S102/16GB USB 3.0 formatted as FAT32. So far.

Bill-99 so true! I can't begin to express how frustrating this is and to have to trial and error different USB sticks to hopefully find one that works is beyond upsetting for something at this price point. And to top it off I had it all dialed in and will have probably lost all my settings.

I'll look for ADATA S102 USB and give it a shot. Thanks!

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Can the firmware be updated over Ethernet or wifi?
Was there a new firmware released recently?

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Which brand or model do you recommend or has worked for you? The last one I bought and tried was Sandisk Cruzfit.
I would think that'd work! FWIW, I've used a variety, but mostly "junk" ones that I can't identify or super-cheap no-names. Never had an issue, go figure. They've never been larger than 4GB, though that should not be important, and USB 2.0.

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Re: firmware updates... not a fan of this interface.

Anthem seems to have a love / hate thing for USB sticks. Some people have bad luck with USB 3.0 memory sticks in general, others seem to skate by. Some seem to have good luck with USB 2.0 memory sticks but not all. It feels haphazard. If this unit is that fussy, why didn't Anthem include one that should work in the box? I mean, seriously, the cost of a memory stick is a rounding error on this transaction! But enough of my whining.

I've had good luck with an ADATA S102/16GB USB 3.0 formatted as FAT32. So far.
Na, I hear you! I'd wish the thing could be done by wifi, but earlier in this thread (or the AVM60 thread?), there were some good points as to why not, and that most wouldn't find it a deal-breaker. I think Anthem should invest the extra $5.00 it might take to do this via wi-fi, but wi-fi in general just does not strike me as Anthem's area of expertise. Yes, cynical by nature I am.

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Can the firmware be updated over Ethernet or wifi?
Was there a new firmware released recently?
Newest firmware dated late Jan., 2018.

USB only for updates.
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Currently watching Mr. Robot series on Amazon Prime via AppleTV 3 outputting 2.0 PCM and it sounds fantastic. I thought 2.0 PCM was stereo but its uncompressed digital audio with lots of mid and bass response. Read it was closer to TrueHD audio and better than DD and DTS.


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Was there a new firmware released recently?
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What improvements were released?
Will it erase any current settings?

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[QUOTE=Jonas2;55919298]I would think that'd work! FWIW, I've used a variety, but mostly "junk" ones that I can't identify or super-cheap no-names. Never had an issue, go figure. They've never been larger than 4GB, though that should not be important, and USB 2.0.



Just bought and tried another USB stick 3.0 reformatted fat32 and did a fresh download and extraction and still errors out at 49% MCU update. Holding down SELECT and MAIN POWER does nothing. Unplugged and cycled power button does nothing. I think this firmware update has completely bricked my Anthem MRX 1120

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Anyone have experience with Anthems support and turnaround time?
Their support is excellent. Call them, don't email. My experience has been that they are pretty quick on email, but you get a live tech. in short order on the phone, and no need to worry about a delayed email back and forth.
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Currently watching Mr. Robot series on Amazon Prime via AppleTV 3 outputting 2.0 PCM and it sounds fantastic.
Does the AppleTV device identify the audio codec? Does it sometimes report AAC? Can you switch the audio output in the ATV from PCM to Bitstream? Not sure why you only get 2.0. The series was mixed in 5.1.

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2.0 is also known as stereo. Any audio codec, once decoded, outputs PCM.

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Does the AppleTV device identify the audio codec? Does it sometimes report AAC? Can you switch the audio output in the ATV from PCM to Bitstream? Not sure why you only get 2.0. The series was mixed in 5.1.



2.0 is also known as stereo. Any audio codec, once decoded, outputs PCM.

From what I understand, Amazon video does not support 5.1 audio on iOS devices. Apple TV firsts decodes the stream, and then outputs raw PCM to HDTV via HDMI.


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From what I understand, Amazon video does not support 5.1 audio on iOS devices. Apple TV firsts decodes the stream, and then outputs raw PCM to HDTV via HDMI.
Isn't the iOS device just used to navigate/select the title, then establish streaming through the AppleTV? If so, no reason the 5.1 should not make it to your Anthem.

That's how it works for me -- I use an Android phone to select Netflix shows that stream via Chromecast into the Anthem HDMI as 5.1 DD+. The phone never touches the content at all.

Anyway, I suspect we are wearing out our welcome on this Amazon topic in an Anthem thread.

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Currently watching Mr. Robot series on Amazon Prime via AppleTV 3 outputting 2.0 PCM and it sounds fantastic. I thought 2.0 PCM was stereo but its uncompressed digital audio with lots of mid and bass response. Read it was closer to TrueHD audio and better than DD and DTS.
Not sure where you read this, but it's pretty much all wrong.

Anthem shows 2.0 PCM when the input is 2 channel decoded audio. The source of that 2 channel audio could be anything from high quality wav to low quality aac. You don't know. Also stereo and 2 channel are synonyms.

2 channel audio can sound pretty good and the anthem does a great job upscaling it to 5.1, 7.1 or atmos.

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Isn't the iOS device just used to navigate/select the title, then establish streaming through the AppleTV? If so, no reason the 5.1 should not make it to your Anthem.

That's how it works for me -- I use an Android phone to select Netflix shows that stream via Chromecast into the Anthem HDMI as 5.1 DD+. The phone never touches the content at all.

Anyway, I suspect we are wearing out our welcome on this Amazon topic in an Anthem thread.
True...Amazon PrimeVideo is the only app on my AppleTV that does not output 5.1 DD or DTS, only PCM audio. From what I've read on Apple Insider, "Amazon updated the Amazon Prime Video app for 5.1 sound in 4K programming. Amazon claims that the audio improvements for HD and SD streamed content are coming soon."

Anyway, the Anthem MRX-720 does a great job upscaling 2.0 PCM audio, it sounds fantastic!

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Very happy new owner of the Anthem MRX 720 here... upgraded over the weekend from a Denon X4300 and very pleased with the upgrade in sound quality, processing, and the ARC is far superior to Audyssey as well.

I was hoping someone here could give me a quick and easy answer to this question:

I am running a Dragonfly Red DAC into the analog input 1 of the Anthem to listen to lossless music. I've set the input to no processing, so it's just transmitting the untouched analog audio from the DAC.

However this also bypasses the digital crossover and does not allow me to use my sub for unprocessed analog audio, which I kind of need.

My sub is an SVS SB-2000, which has left (LFE) and right RCA inputs and a HPF at the sub.

What I'm thinking is... Is it possible to run the unprocessed (full range) analog out from the Anthem main pre-outs into my power amp, and run an unprocessed analog out signal from the right channel of Zone 2 at the same time... run the Zone 2 out into the unused RCA on the SVS sub, and manually set the crossover there?

For this profile there would be no digital audio out into the left channel of the SVS so no worries of crosstalk from competing signals. I will have to manually adjust the crossover at the sub every time I listen to the DAC, but this is not an issue. A full range signal will also be sent from the main pre-outs into my amp, so there will be some duplication of bass in the front speakers - not sure how much of an issue this will be but I assume manually adjusting the output at the sub could compensate.

Is this the best way to achieve this, and if so, what settings in the Anthem should I be aware of to make this happen?

Or is there a better way to send an unprocessed analog signal out of the Anthem and still make use of a subwoofer?
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I did the exact same thing with my 1120 / UDP-205 combo. I settled on Coax out from the 205 and into the 1120. I created a separate input on the 1120 which uses the analog inputs, bypasses digital processing, enables the two front speakers and subs only, and bypasses ARC. I ran a series of tests and this was the combo I settled on.
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Not Briandx, but I am curious how the Anthem can be sending a signal to the sub if digital conversion and processing of the analog input is disabled. From the manual:

PROCESS ANALOG AUDIO INPUT
If changed to No, digital conversion and signal processing are bypassed. Only level adjustments will be available.
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True...Amazon PrimeVideo is the only app on my AppleTV that does not output 5.1 DD or DTS, only PCM audio. From what I've read on Apple Insider, "Amazon updated the Amazon Prime Video app for 5.1 sound in 4K programming. Amazon claims that the audio improvements for HD and SD streamed content are coming soon."



Anyway, the Anthem MRX-720 does a great job upscaling 2.0 PCM audio, it sounds fantastic!


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Not Briandx, but I am curious how the Anthem can be sending a signal to the sub if digital conversion and processing of the analog input is disabled. From the manual:

PROCESS ANALOG AUDIO INPUT
If changed to No, digital conversion and signal processing are bypassed. Only level adjustments will be available.
Just chiming in here but my understanding is this is not possible. If you are using the Anthem's digital crossover to send a signal out of the subwoofer pre, the analog is being re-digitized and re-converted by the Anthem DAC, which means no benefit from the Oppo DAC. This was the issue I struggled with as well.
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Hey Briandx:

I'm in Middletown, Delaware. I tried to PM you about your setup but it says you are not accepting PMs. I would love to talk to you about your equipment. If you are willing, could you please PM me or email me at kmbaird (at) hotmail (dot) com.

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Hi Folks. First off, I'm not sure why my ID is not accepting PMs, as I have triple-checked my settings and PMs are not disabled as far as I can tell.

Kevin, I will email you shortly....

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Just chiming in here but my understanding is this is not possible. If you are using the Anthem's digital crossover to send a signal out of the subwoofer pre, the analog is being re-digitized and re-converted by the Anthem DAC, which means no benefit from the Oppo DAC. This was the issue I struggled with as well.
You are probably correct here.

I have only owned my new Paradigm L/R full range speakers for a couple of weeks, and the bass I am feeling is probably coming from those speakers and not my two subs. My old L/R speakers were in-wall and had very little bass response.

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Yea if it was 100% pure pass through then the EDID from the display is what would show up not the one from the Anthem. I think those HUD settings don't make any difference.
I that is what I was expecting, and sure enough, this week I had 2 lock up. so I am back to Extended display. I wonder if I could use an HDMI splitter...

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