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The change notes are in the text file in the same folder with the executable update file.
Thank you Roger.

I updated through the ARC program itself, so I never downloaded the file. I will download the update so I can read the notes.
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Thank you Roger.

I updated through the ARC program itself, so I never downloaded the file. I will download the update so I can read the notes.
Here it is for anyone else that is curious.

v1.9.7092

New supported devices:
- Added support for some subs that were previously only supported in PBK: Prestige 1000SW/2000SW, Seismic 110, Milennia Sub
- Added support for new subwoofer: Paradigm Defiance Series: V10, V12, X10, X12, X15
- Added support for new subwoofers: MartinLogan Dynamo Series: 600X, 800X, 1100X, 1600X
Bug Fixes:
- Fixed an issue where windows locale settings could prevent ARC2 from uploading or measuring target devices
- Fixed an issue where ARC2 could not upload some save files to an STR Integrate Amp or STR Pre Amp depending on the contents (IMS 701)
- Other minor bug fixes and improvements
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In case I miss something here...this update has been released many months ago right? There is no new software update as far as I know.

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Is anybody getting ARC results where it boosts almost all of the channels except the sub up to +9, +10, and +11? Mine started doing this with the latest version of ARC software, and I'm trying to figure out why. Thanks.
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Have you tried to lower the volume/gain on sub?

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Is anybody getting ARC results where it boosts almost all of the channels except the sub up to +9, +10, and +11? Mine started doing this with the latest version of ARC software, and I'm trying to figure out why. Thanks.
Mine did this from day one (almost a year ago)..
I use an external BluRay (aix records BluRay test tones) to calibrate to 75db when anthem is at 0db volume on master volume control..

All channels including sub, were set exactly +10db to loud after ARC..
Example, it set my left Channel to +10db for its gain setting...

After I used aix records test tones, the correct gain now for left channel is 0db..
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Mine did this from day one (almost a year ago)..
I use an external BluRay (aix records BluRay test tones) to calibrate to 75db when anthem is at 0db volume on master volume control..

All channels including sub, were set exactly +10db to loud after ARC..
Example, it set my left Channel to +10db for its gain setting...

After I used aix records test tones, the correct gain now for left channel is 0db..
So you just manually adjusted each channel level after running ARC? Does it sound better overall after the adjustments?
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So you just manually adjusted each channel level after running ARC? Does it sound better overall after the adjustments?
Yup adjusted after ARC..
As for sound after... It's the same... As Should be.. As only adjusting gains and not eq...

Difference now, is when I play a movie now, I may reach - 10db on master volume for loud, as prior to adjusting levels, and using ARC values, same movie would be - 20db on volume to get same levels..

Now levels after adjustment follow results I got from any other pre amp I have used.. Like yamaha, Marantz, lexicon, pioneer etc...
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Is anybody getting ARC results where it boosts almost all of the channels except the sub up to +9, +10, and +11? Mine started doing this with the latest version of ARC software, and I'm trying to figure out why. Thanks.
I set up ARC again a few weeks ago. It stopped me part way through calibration and said I have to turn my sub down because it’s overpowering the other speakers. I have 3x prestige 15B’s and a 1000SW for a 3.1 system. I turned the sub volume down from half to about the 10:00 position. ARC then set the 15B’s to +4 and the sub to -1. It is a powerful sub though. I never need to watch movies with the receiver past -20, so the sub is hardly working and hopefully lasts a long time.

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MRX720- 5.1 set up

Hi,

During ARC2 'quick measure' and 'measure' run for front left and right speakers, the sensitivity calculation displayed on ARC was 68db (with mic at MLP). Is it required to increase this value to 75db prior to actual measurement. What is the correct method to make it 75db.

Whether sensitivity reading can be used for matching the levels of main speaker and sub ?

Thanks in advance.

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Just Asking the Forum-

I am curious if any of you have this same situation happen:
I have one input (hdmi1) set for Dolby Volume On, and other inputs (hdmi 2, play fi, FM) I have it set for Off. But, when I switch from hdmi 1 to another input, even though it states the correct setting (off), it is stuck ‘on’. I have to manually cycle through the setting of dolby volume (on then off) for it to set properly.
When I say Dolby Volume is on when I switch sources, I mean that it alters the sound (although the heights work). When I toggle on, then off for DV, then the alteration is not there (DV truly off).

Has anyone else experienced this? I have asked Anthem Support, but they couldn't get it to reproduce.
I have the same issue. I have brought this up before as well. I also believe that some others, based on their symptoms and complaints, have the same problem and don’t know it.

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I have the same issue. I have brought this up before as well. I also believe that some others, based on their symptoms and complaints, have the same problem and don’t know it.
Thank you! So I am not crazy, whew. I did bring it up to Anthem Support, but they couldnt replicate. I am glad to hear I am not alone. Ill reach out to Support again, thank you!

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Anthem MRX-1120 + AppleTV 4K + Plex ≠ ATMOS :(

Hello all,

Looking for some help. I've got an Anthem MRX 1120 and an Apple TV 4K with the latest tvOS 12.0 running Plex. I've got a Mac based Plex server in the next room, hardwired to my local CAT-6 network; the Apple TV also hardwired. I've been able to play movies from the server just fine, but the MRX 1120 has always shown Multi PCM audio in the display. I've got Atmos source material on the server, but I can't get it to play in Atmos.

Admittedly I don't understand this stuff well at all.

Based on some cursory search results I thought that I might be able to get everything working by installing Infuse, linking it to my Plex server, and setting Passthrough in the Infuse audio options. That doesn't seem to change anything either. MRX 1120 still shows Multi PCM.

Does anyone understand this? Is it something I'm not doing or is support just not available yet, and if so, whose support do I need? Apple, Anthem, Plex, etc.

Also apologies if I'm not in the correct forum.

THANKS
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Anthem 1120 vs NAD 777 (or 758)

Hi all, first time posting in this thread. I am thinking about getting either an Anthem 1120 vs a NAD 777v3 for my upcoming 5.2.4 project.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how they compare since they are around the same price?

Also, knowing room correction is a huge consideration, is there much difference in quality between Anthem Room Correction vs Dirac? I am leaving Dirac as I’ve heard it’s (slightly) better and tops overall. Was hoping to hear comparisons or reasons why I should consider the ARC for my setup.

My thanks in advance for helping me with this query.

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Hello all,

Looking for some help. I've got an Anthem MRX 1120 and an Apple TV 4K with the latest tvOS 12.0 running Plex. I've got a Mac based Plex server in the next room, hardwired to my local CAT-6 network; the Apple TV also hardwired. I've been able to play movies from the server just fine, but the MRX 1120 has always shown Multi PCM audio in the display. I've got Atmos source material on the server, but I can't get it to play in Atmos.

Admittedly I don't understand this stuff well at all.

Based on some cursory search results I thought that I might be able to get everything working by installing Infuse, linking it to my Plex server, and setting Passthrough in the Infuse audio options. That doesn't seem to change anything either. MRX 1120 still shows Multi PCM.

Does anyone understand this? Is it something I'm not doing or is support just not available yet, and if so, whose support do I need? Apple, Anthem, Plex, etc.

Also apologies if I'm not in the correct forum.

THANKS
That is going to be a Plex/ATV issue. The Anthem is just displaying the signal it is receiving. It is displaying Multi PCM because Plex is trancoding the file instead of direct playing it. That could be a setting in Plex or on the ATV. Does it display True HD or DTS MA if you play a standard Blu Ray file? Or is it transcoding that as well? Either way, I don't believe its going to be a problem on the Anthem.
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Hello all,

Looking for some help. I've got an Anthem MRX 1120 and an Apple TV 4K with the latest tvOS 12.0 running Plex. I've got a Mac based Plex server in the next room, hardwired to my local CAT-6 network; the Apple TV also hardwired. I've been able to play movies from the server just fine, but the MRX 1120 has always shown Multi PCM audio in the display. I've got Atmos source material on the server, but I can't get it to play in Atmos.

Admittedly I don't understand this stuff well at all.

Based on some cursory search results I thought that I might be able to get everything working by installing Infuse, linking it to my Plex server, and setting Passthrough in the Infuse audio options. That doesn't seem to change anything either. MRX 1120 still shows Multi PCM.

Does anyone understand this? Is it something I'm not doing or is support just not available yet, and if so, whose support do I need? Apple, Anthem, Plex, etc.

Also apologies if I'm not in the correct forum.

THANKS
To my knowledge you cant stream native DTS-X or Dolby Atmos through a pc With Plex. You will need some other software an another OS than OSX to make this work.





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Hello all,

Looking for some help. I've got an Anthem MRX 1120 and an Apple TV 4K with the latest tvOS 12.0 running Plex. I've got a Mac based Plex server in the next room, hardwired to my local CAT-6 network; the Apple TV also hardwired. I've been able to play movies from the server just fine, but the MRX 1120 has always shown Multi PCM audio in the display. I've got Atmos source material on the server, but I can't get it to play in Atmos.

Admittedly I don't understand this stuff well at all.

Based on some cursory search results I thought that I might be able to get everything working by installing Infuse, linking it to my Plex server, and setting Passthrough in the Infuse audio options. That doesn't seem to change anything either. MRX 1120 still shows Multi PCM.

Does anyone understand this? Is it something I'm not doing or is support just not available yet, and if so, whose support do I need? Apple, Anthem, Plex, etc.

Also apologies if I'm not in the correct forum.

THANKS
Hello:

First thing is to check that Plex is set up properly to passthrough audio to the receiver. If you connect your Mac directly to the receiver, are you able to see Atmos/DTS:X on the receiver? If not, there is an issue. I have Plex on a PC and can play both Atmos and DTS:X. I have to use the Plex Media player on the PC for this. The audio settings are set in Plex Media Player.

Unfortunately, I do not have an Apple TV 4K. The version I have does not support Atmos so cannot comment on that. However, if I understand it correctly, the Atmos capability is something that has to be handled on a per app basis. It is possible the Plex app on AppleTV has not been updated to handle Atmos yet. I would suggest sending a note to Plex support.

Hope that helps a bit...

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Mine did this from day one (almost a year ago)..
I use an external BluRay (aix records BluRay test tones) to calibrate to 75db when anthem is at 0db volume on master volume control..

All channels including sub, were set exactly +10db to loud after ARC..
Example, it set my left Channel to +10db for its gain setting...

After I used aix records test tones, the correct gain now for left channel is 0db..
For the sake of conversation, wouldn't that approach's accuracy be dependent on the line voltage of your bluray player matching unity gain at reference?
Personally, I don't know if I'd trust that variable to calibrate. That's what is tricky about test tones in general though. IMO unless they are generated by your processor at a known amplitude value, test tones are better for correcting standing wave problems. As soon as you use test tones off of youtube/tidal/bluray/whatever you introduce more complexity and most likely less accuracy if trying to adjust overall level.

The only thing I use test tones for is to dial in sub distance.

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Hello all,



Looking for some help. I've got an Anthem MRX 1120 and an Apple TV 4K with the latest tvOS 12.0 running Plex. I've got a Mac based Plex server in the next room, hardwired to my local CAT-6 network; the Apple TV also hardwired. I've been able to play movies from the server just fine, but the MRX 1120 has always shown Multi PCM audio in the display. I've got Atmos source material on the server, but I can't get it to play in Atmos.



Admittedly I don't understand this stuff well at all.



Based on some cursory search results I thought that I might be able to get everything working by installing Infuse, linking it to my Plex server, and setting Passthrough in the Infuse audio options. That doesn't seem to change anything either. MRX 1120 still shows Multi PCM.



Does anyone understand this? Is it something I'm not doing or is support just not available yet, and if so, whose support do I need? Apple, Anthem, Plex, etc.



Also apologies if I'm not in the correct forum.



THANKS


The ATV cannot pass a lossless Atmos bitstream at this time, only the DD+ version of Atmos. It may be doubtful that Apple will ever permit lossless bitstreamed audio. Infuse can be used to play files with lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA, but it does so by decoding to PCM (unique to Infuse). This won’t work for lossless Atmos. The folks who make Infuse want to make this work, but Apple may not be listening.
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Apple TV is not alone in this regard. No.current Roku device passes lossless audio afaik. I think Nvidia Shield does but not 100% sure on that.

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Apple TV is not alone in this regard. No.current Roku device passes lossless audio afaik. I think Nvidia Shield does but not 100% sure on that.

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I can confirm the Shield will direct play lossless audio. I currently use Plex>Shield>AVM60 to play back my BluRay rips.
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I have an anthem mrx 1120 and I just ordered a trinnov altitude 32 and I wanted to know if I could use the mrx 1120 as a power amp (use the 11 channels) if yes how am I forced to buy a power amp thank you For your help
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Can arc calibrate 2 subs and use them like audisey dose.
only reason i am asking i have to get a new AVR. I am was looking at the new Denons due to there future up date to imax sound or what ever it is called that will let you use sub as you listen to stereo music.

I have a 19 x 20 room so was thinking i may need 2 subs
Will be trying out RBH signature speakers.

I am not a big fan of any specific AVR, Never uses ARC or DIRAC live hear that both can help a lot with the way your system sounds
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Can arc calibrate 2 subs and use them like Audyssey does.
Yes and no. Audyssey can tweak gain and delay of each sub individually, then apply the same EQ to both of them. ARC applies the same EQ both subs, which are wired in parallel. You can apply different gains manually on each sub amp, but there's no time delay offset, if that's needed. Many systems do not need any delay offset, so in that case you can get "equal treatment" of the dual subs from the two EQ systems.

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The IMAX mode has nothing to do with using your subs with music. Any AVR can do that now.

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Dirac is a whole 'nother animal. A cut above either of the others you mentioned.

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Hi all, first time posting in this thread. I am thinking about getting either an Anthem 1120 vs a NAD 777v3 for my upcoming 5.2.4 project.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on how they compare since they are around the same price?

Also, knowing room correction is a huge consideration, is there much difference in quality between Anthem Room Correction vs Dirac? I am leaving Dirac as I’ve heard it’s (slightly) better and tops overall. Was hoping to hear comparisons or reasons why I should consider the ARC for my setup.

My thanks in advance for helping me with this query.
Any experience wit NAD 758 or 777 vs Anthem 1120 AVR or Dirac vs ARC from Anthem owners

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I am finally getting close to finishing this year long hidden home theater fiasco. I did get everything with the JVC and Pioneer working right with the HD Fury Vertex. I swear my Pioneer is even sharper with a down-sampled 4k signal from the Vertex.



Three weeks ago I contacted Oppo and realized I was not going to be lucky enough to get a call from the sign up list for the last 205's. So I got gouged on Ebay to the tune of $2,850. I did this because the sound from my 203/Anthem MRX-720 feeding M&K subs and satellites sounds dang good with my high-res music files. I heard the 205's analog section punches even higher above its price point so I took the plunge.


Here is where Anthem screws me again: Disabling processing disables my subs. Please tell me there is a way to feed a pure analog signal into the Anthem with ARC disabled and still have the crossovers active without it converting back to the digital domain and screwing me on my gouged 205. Anyone feeding their Anthem with a DAC, can you please comment? If there isn't a way, can I still rig something to get bass with unprocessed Anthem music?



I was seriously thinking about simplifying my life and getting rid of my 2-channel system. For that stereo only system, my Benchmark DAC balanced outputs feed directly to my Music Reference RM-200 Mk II/Watt Puppy 6's. But even the WP6's need bottom end so I use a Velodyne DD-15, which is fed by the Benchmark's rca analog output. The Watt Puppy's run full range and I tweaked the crossover in the Velodyne to interface. There is no way the Anthem/M&K combo is going to best my 2-channel setup, but I think I can get close enough to be satisfied so I can sell my 2-channel system. I downsized to get ready for retirement 2 years ago and really can't justify 2 dedicated music systems in our smaller house.



Another poster on the Oppo-205 thread also has this question.
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Please tell me there is a way to feed a pure analog signal into the Anthem with ARC disabled and still have the crossovers active without it converting back to the digital domain and screwing me on my gouged 205.
There is no bass management in the Anthem without DSP.

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If you want to run the bass the same as the Benchmark, the 205's stereo analog outputs can be fed analog thru the 720, whose L/R amps drive the main speakers full range, and the L/R preamp outputs feed the subs, either in mono or stereo as you prefer, and where the low-pass filters are adjusted as needed for best blend.

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There is no bass management in the Anthem without DSP.

If you want to run the bass the same as the Benchmark, the 205's stereo analog outputs can be fed analog thru the 720, whose L/R amps drive the main speakers full range, and the L/R preamp outputs feed the subs, either in mono or stereo as you prefer, and where the low-pass filters are adjusted as needed for best blend.

Is there a trick to have the sub hooked up both ways? When the Oppo is locked via HDMI, which it would be on movies feeding the Anthem, does it still output Analog at the same time? Is there a way to to feed the sub from a second Oppo analog out with crossover added to it in the Anthem so I don't have to change the subs everytime? The subs are stuck in a cabinet and hard to get to the back of them.
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Is there a trick to have the sub hooked up both ways? When the Oppo is locked via HDMI, which it would be on movies feeding the Anthem, does it still output Analog at the same time? Is there a way to to feed the sub from a second Oppo analog out with crossover added to it in the Anthem so I don't have to change the subs everytime? The subs are stuck in a cabinet and hard to get to the back of them.
I do not know of a way to get there with the gear on hand.

I can imagine getting the system to work if you add some external processing, the orange items in the diagram. Then set up the 720 to use analog bypass for thr Oppo analog input and to use 720's bass management for the Oppo's HDMI input, with the crossover set to a higher frequency than the external lowpass filter.

If the M&K's RCA and XLR inputs are able to sum the inputs together, that would simplify matters. The manual does not talk about that, but you could find out by doing some tests.
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I do not know of a way to get there with the gear on hand.

I can imagine getting the system to work if you add some external processing, the orange items in the diagram. Then set up the 720 to use analog bypass for thr Oppo analog input and to use 720's bass management for the Oppo's HDMI input, with the crossover set to a higher frequency than the external lowpass filter.

If the M&K's RCA and XLR inputs are able to sum the inputs together, that would simplify matters. The manual does not talk about that, but you could find out by doing some tests.

The diagram is definitely doable. Walking through it, the Anthem disables the sub out when the process data setting for that input is set to "no" so in that mode, the sub would not receive two signals. The concern is using the variable L/R output on the Anthem to feed the crossover since I think that is always active and can't be disabled specific to an input. I could use the Oppo Balanced outputs with unbalanced ends to feed the crossover but I need to see if the Oppo Analog Outputs can be disabled when HDMI is active. Otherwise I could be sending the sub two signals.



I just did a search and audiophile grade low pass filters are scarce. Looks like there is a guy on Etsy making custom ones. I could get one made at the same Crossover point and slope the ARC picked since I know it will work for my room. (EDITED: Where can I find the ARC applied crossover point and slope?) I have two X-12's for impact on movies. They each utilize (2) push/pull 12-inch drivers and pack a punch, so I'm thinking one might be sufficient for music. I could always make the crossover accessible and switch it off when not doing 2-channel listening but I prefer for things to be as seamless as possible.

As far as the splitter, would the 2 female to one male BlueJeansCable work fine?

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