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Big news for current Anthem owners:

Anthem Unveils ARC Genesis™—the Next Generation of Anthem’s Critically-Acclaimed Room Correction Software – Anthem Electronics, award-winning manufacturer of high-end electronics for music and home theater, is pleased to unveil details of ARC Genesis™, the third generation of their critically-acclaimed Anthem Room Correction (ARC®) software. Available in Spring 2019 for free from Anthem’s website, this proprietary digital signal processing technology works with compatible 2-channel and home theater audio products and offers advanced measurement functions, powerful acoustic correction algorithms, user-configurable target curve customization, a streamlined user interface, and support for both Mac and Windows

Free update for all existing owners, target curve manipulation and you can now use quick measure to look at the CORRECTED response of a speaker. This allows you to look at multiple corrected responses to determine which is the best to use. No time alignment though, bummer.

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...In comparisons of HTPC audio quality to playback via the Oppo using CDs and memory sticks plugged into an Oppo USB port, it's unlikely that I could identify one source vs. the other in a double blind test...

I think this is dependent on source material but my experience has been high-res audio files will most always beat CD. I actually ordered Yanni Live At the Acropolis (don't judge ) on one of those Japanese K2 HD Masters for a whopping $46 and expecting to be blown away based on all the reviews. I can tell you against the $17 HD Tracks 24-bit download, it was lifeless. All the air and detail had been robbed and there was absolutely no mistaking the difference in sound quality. Comparison was done using my previously described analog Anthem setup and switching between the 205 CD playback and 205 USB playback.
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I posted this in the AVM-60 thread but seems this thread gets a little more traffic so hoping you guys can help. I plan to use my AVM-60 in my media room using both a projector as well as my LED TV. First, is there any special settings I need to set to be able to switch between the 2 outputs of the AVM-60 and second, should I run output 1 to the TV and output 2 to the projector or use the outputs in the opposite direction? Sorry if I've made this complicated in advance.

As long as both displays are 4k you should be good. If not, prepare for major aggravation. I had to get the HD Fury Vertex to get my older Pioneer Kuro Plasma and JVC-520 to play nice with the Anthem. Huge headache!! And it's still somewhat glitchy.
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Ok, thanks !! Are you getting tidal on your tv when using node2i ? I had it using my oppo, nothing with the node. I just assume I’m not setting something up right.

Steven and Mbroadus, see this post. I spent lots of time and money to figure out the simplest implementation and it sounds amazing.


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Swatdude1,

Hmmm... Not sure we're saying the same thing. Actually it looks like two topics. Let me try again.

First, I was trying to see if feeding BitStream from an Oppo 203 sounds like BitStream from my HTPC when fed to an AVM 60. They sure sound the same in my system, regardless of whether the sources is hi-rez fed from the Oppo or hi-rez fed from the HTPC, or CD fed from the Oppo or the same CD ripped to WMA lossless. That's a good thing. My question was: Would using the analog outputs of my Oppo 203 improve audio quality? I don't have patch cords to test it, though I've also not found any posts claiming it will. It's not surprising, however, to hear that the Oppo 205 would sound better via the analog outs. I mean, it really ought to, right?

Second, I didn't actually bring up audio quality based on source, but it's always a good topic for discussion IMO. My experience has been that hi-rez downloads and CD quality vary quite a bit. Sometimes hi-rez sounds best, sometimes it's the CD. It seems most closely tied to the specific release and how much dynamic range compression has occurred with the content.

These days I typically start music purchases here:
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to find a release that pretty good. Then I either download hi-rez or buy a specific disk via Discogs. It's definitely more work but it has made a big sq impact in my system. YMMV and a big caveat emptor as well.

Just one more upgrade and things will be perfect.
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Steven and Mbroadus, see this post. I spent lots of time and money to figure out the simplest implementation and it sounds amazing.


https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post57527636
I was lost after the first paragraph !! I was able to get the sub up & running by changing the imput settings, it sounds fantastic ! Not too worried about getting what’s playing on the tv, & the oppo is not in the loop for tidal, just the node2i to the anthem.
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... target curve manipulation...
You mean I could use ARC to create a house curve?
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I was lost after the first paragraph !! I was able to get the sub up & running by changing the imput settings, it sounds fantastic ! Not too worried about getting what’s playing on the tv, & the oppo is not in the loop for tidal, just the node2i to the anthem.

What settings did you change to get you sub up and running via Node 2i?




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Steven and Mbroadus, see this post. I spent lots of time and money to figure out the simplest implementation and it sounds amazing.


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Thanks but I’m not using the 205 for Tidal, using Bluesound Node 2i.


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You mean I could use ARC to create a house curve?
I haven't had the chance to use/see it yet, but that is what it sounds like. I'm sure we'll know more after ISE.
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I haven't had the chance to use/see it yet, but that is what it sounds like. I'm sure we'll know more after ISE.
I just got a MiniDSP 2x4 and bought a UMIK-1 to be able to add a house curve because ARC and my Anthem MRX-1120 won't let us (currently) adjust the curve. Doh.

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Big news for current Anthem owners:



Anthem Unveils ARC Genesis—the Next Generation of Anthem’s Critically-Acclaimed Room Correction Software – Anthem Electronics, award-winning manufacturer of high-end electronics for music and home theater, is pleased to unveil details of ARC Genesis, the third generation of their critically-acclaimed Anthem Room Correction (ARC) software. Available in Spring 2019 for free from Anthem’s website, this proprietary digital signal processing technology works with compatible 2-channel and home theater audio products and offers advanced measurement functions, powerful acoustic correction algorithms, user-configurable target curve customization, a streamlined user interface, and support for both Mac and Windows

Free update for all existing owners, target curve manipulation and you can now use quick measure to look at the CORRECTED response of a speaker. This allows you to look at multiple corrected responses to determine which is the best to use. No time alignment though, bummer.

Many thanks for the info. So...I’ll be able to use ARC Genesis with my MacBook Pro?


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Many thanks for the info. So...I’ll be able to use ARC Genesis with my MacBook Pro?


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From the press release I quoted before: "support for both Mac and Windows"
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I am considering buying a 520, however I really need auto lip-sync feature on HDMI. That is, I do not want to set my audio delay manually. I cannot stand it.

Anyway, I know that Anthem did not have auto lip-sync on their 510 series. Is it correctly implemented in the 520? Or are everyone manually setting the lip-sync?


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I am considering buying a 520, however I really need auto lip-sync feature on HDMI. That is, I do not want to set my audio delay manually. I cannot stand it.

Anyway, I know that Anthem did not have auto lip-sync on their 510 series. Is it correctly implemented in the 520? Or are everyone manually setting the lip-sync?

Thx!

I’ve never had to use the lip-sync feature.


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Hello,
I am an owner of a 720 and have noticed several audio drop outs lately. I am running the current .095 firmware. The audio drop outs are occurring watching Directv and now from my Oppo 203. All audioquest Carbon HDMI cables, LG OLED 65C7 and everything running through Panamax 5400. I’ve contacted Anthem support and they suggested the power conditioner as a possible issue however I haven’t been able to verify that through troubleshooting. My sequence of powering on is as follows:

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Just looking for some thoughts if this is a “handshake” issue or something hardware related.
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I am considering buying a 520, however I really need auto lip-sync feature on HDMI. That is, I do not want to set my audio delay manually. I cannot stand it.

Anyway, I know that Anthem did not have auto lip-sync on their 510 series. Is it correctly implemented in the 520? Or are everyone manually setting the lip-sync?


Thx!
No auto on the 520. Not an issue on with my apple tv or cable box but when I watch 4k blurays on the Xbox i do have to adjust the delay manually. It really annoying trying to get it synced up perfectly.
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Quick question:


Can the amps on the 720 be setup to run two sets of height speakers along with the surround back speakers?


I have a 5.1.4 setup and if I got the 720 I wanted to offload the LCR onto a nice separate amp and run the rest of the speakers off the 720. But reading the manual I'm not sure this is possible.



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Nope. Amp outputs are not assignable.

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Dang.

So...if spending the money, what is gained noticeably by getting the AVM 60 over the 1120 for pure movie theater use (no music) with pretty sensitive speakers (Hsu and Klipsch)?

If I went with an AVM I would only be able to afford some BasX series amps from Emotiva vs. paying a little more the 1120 and using all internal amps.

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I have a 7 channel power amp. I run 5.1.2. I want to get another set of high speakers can I run these of the 720 as rear height speakers. Use the power amp for the LCR Surround and rear height.

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Big news for current Anthem owners:

Anthem Unveils ARC Genesis™—the Next Generation of Anthem’s Critically-Acclaimed Room Correction Software – Anthem Electronics, award-winning manufacturer of high-end electronics for music and home theater, is pleased to unveil details of ARC Genesis™, the third generation of their critically-acclaimed Anthem Room Correction (ARC®) software. Available in Spring 2019 for free from Anthem’s website, this proprietary digital signal processing technology works with compatible 2-channel and home theater audio products and offers advanced measurement functions, powerful acoustic correction algorithms, user-configurable target curve customization, a streamlined user interface, and support for both Mac and Windows

Free update for all existing owners, target curve manipulation and you can now use quick measure to look at the CORRECTED response of a speaker. This allows you to look at multiple corrected responses to determine which is the best to use. No time alignment though, bummer.
Good news!! I can get rid of that Bootcamp partition I have on my MacBook from when I ran ARC. I wonder if the iOS app will also be updated. I was going to buy the calibrated mic for the iOS app, but if the new ARC won't be supported on iOS, I won't bother.

Edit: I found this at referencehometheater.com:

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Support for Multiple Platforms and Backward Compatibility: With the launch of third-generation ARC Genesis software, what was once only possible with a PC computer is now compatible with both Mac and Windows and offers convenient connections via USB, Wi-Fi/Ethernet, or Bluetooth (depending on the product). In the near future, ARC Mobile for iOS and Android will also be upgraded to include the ARC Genesis feature set. ARC Genesis software is backward compatible with many legacy products released during the last decade—the only exception being early generation products that relied solely on RS-232 for data connections.

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Big news for current Anthem owners:

Anthem Unveils ARC Genesis™—the Next Generation of Anthem’s Critically-Acclaimed Room Correction Software – Anthem Electronics, award-winning manufacturer of high-end electronics for music and home theater, is pleased to unveil details of ARC Genesis™, the third generation of their critically-acclaimed Anthem Room Correction (ARC®) software. Available in Spring 2019 for free from Anthem’s website, this proprietary digital signal processing technology works with compatible 2-channel and home theater audio products and offers advanced measurement functions, powerful acoustic correction algorithms, user-configurable target curve customization, a streamlined user interface, and support for both Mac and Windows

Free update for all existing owners, target curve manipulation and you can now use quick measure to look at the CORRECTED response of a speaker. This allows you to look at multiple corrected responses to determine which is the best to use. No time alignment though, bummer.

I don't think it is possible due to the design of the AVM and MRX, but it'd be sweet if somehow Anthem could work in dual, independent sub EQ. I'm sure it's in the new version, since it seems to be in the current one, just a physical limitation of the AVM and MRX. WOnder if it's even possible for Anthem to firmware update the units to do this? Probably not, wishful thinking... But the OSX compatibility is cool.


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Hello,
I am an owner of a 720 and have noticed several audio drop outs lately. I am running the current .095 firmware. The audio drop outs are occurring watching Directv and now from my Oppo 203. All audioquest Carbon HDMI cables, LG OLED 65C7 and everything running through Panamax 5400. I’ve contacted Anthem support and they suggested the power conditioner as a possible issue however I haven’t been able to verify that through troubleshooting. My sequence of powering on is as follows:

I have no idea how the Panamax could be responsible for audio dropouts considering it is only handling power really. I suppose stranger things have happened, but I've got same Panamax, Oppo, and Comcast, with AVM, and no issues.....do you have anything else connected that does not drop out?

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No auto on the 520. Not an issue on with my apple tv or cable box but when I watch 4k blurays on the Xbox i do have to adjust the delay manually. It really annoying trying to get it synced up perfectly.
Buy the Spears and Munsil Benchmark Vol 2 Blu-ray. It has a audio synch pattern that makes dialing it in a snap.
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Hello,
I am an owner of a 720 and have noticed several audio drop outs lately. I am running the current .095 firmware. The audio drop outs are occurring watching Directv and now from my Oppo 203. All audioquest Carbon HDMI cables, LG OLED 65C7 and everything running through Panamax 5400. I’ve contacted Anthem support and they suggested the power conditioner as a possible issue however I haven’t been able to verify that through troubleshooting. My sequence of powering on is as follows:

Tv
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Source (directv or Oppo)

Just looking for some thoughts if this is a “handshake” issue or something hardware related.
I would buy a certified HDMI cable and try that. I realize the Carbon's are a premium and expensive HDMI cable, but you'd be surprised how many boutique cables have issues. Make sure they are no less than 6 feet in length too, HDMI should not even have cables that are less than that. I would recommend you buy some of these and try them:

Certified HDMI cables

At around $6 you can't lose. They test out with all signals and are one of the very few on the market that are actually certified for full bandwidth.
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Thanks for the info. This is exactly why I wanted to be a part of the forum!
The only other source that I have connected is a Cambridge azur 550c that is connected with analog cables and has no droupout issues.

My only other thought is if the audio quest cables are not full bandwidth than why is it only the audio that drops and never the video even 4K, HDR and Dolby Vision?

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I have a 7 channel power amp. I run 5.1.2. I want to get another set of high speakers can I run these of the 720 as rear height speakers. Use the power amp for the LCR Surround and rear height.
For additional pair of height speakers you need external amp.
You can power LCR channels with internal or external amp, but LCR internal amp outputs cannot be assigned to any other channels.

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