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It's time for the next product line. 4+ years and counting. That's an eternity in electronics. Especially since their track record is 3 years.
I mean how many of the STR products are they selling compared to their A/V gear, but yet their new version of ARC isn't totally compatible with their AVR's?
It's nice that they are trying to get "most of the update" to current owners, but they should have launched a new line of Pre-pros and AVR's with the new ARC and then trickled down the ARC update to owners of this current (and dated) product.


They also need to figure out the wifi issues. I mean come on, this is old technology. My $400 living room receiver connects flawlessly.
And while I'm at it just add Bluetooth.
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I'm pretty sure they will wait for HDMI 2.1.
I know I would.

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It's time for the next product line. 4+ years and counting. That's an eternity in electronics. Especially since their track record is 3 years.
It's really only been 3+ years since the current x20 line was shipped to dealers in early December 2015 and few users at the beginning of this thread had one by the end of December 2015. I sure does seem like it's been a lot longer though.

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I kinda like the fact that they keep the same line around for bit. What, doesn't Denon introduce a new model like every 30 days or something????

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Curious as to what more we could ask for?

I am totally happy with my 720 5.1.2 atmos setup and there are no additional features that I need. The sound is amazing, ARC is the best in class, and it handles 4K, DV and ATMOS.

I wouldn’t mind a sleeker front face but honestly the understated dot matrix display kinda says: i know I am awesome, screw showing off.

So other than HDMI 2.whatever, for now what are we really missing that warrants a refresh?



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Curious as to what more we could ask for?

I am totally happy with my 720 5.1.2 atmos setup and there are no additional features that I need. The sound is amazing, ARC is the best in class, and it handles 4K, DV and ATMOS.

I wouldn’t mind a sleeker front face but honestly the understated dot matrix display kinda says: i know I am awesome, screw showing off.

So other than HDMI 2.whatever, for now what are we really missing that warrants a refresh?



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I kind of feel the same way. ARC Genesis is coming next month so apparently the sound and ARC features are going to get even better too. I guess they could add HDMI 2.1 and a host of streaming services. Other than that I really can't think of what I'm missing.
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I specifically chose the Anthem because it didn't have loads of fluff and exciting new features. I'd rather the money be spent on the core features I actually use, and they be done well. I don't really see what else can sensibly be added that is a "must have". The only thing I miss from my old receivers is the lack of Airplay, but that's easy fixed via AppleTv.
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I would like to see them update HDMI to support the higher bandwidth since new TVs are coming out including 8k but also add more processing power similar to what the D2V has. From what I remember, they said the D2V had more processing power than the AVM and X20 series. I would also like to see a new Statement Pre\pro
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My first Anthem was the MRX 300 and I used it as a pre/pro (same way I use the MRX 720). When they launched the x10 series I stayed with the MRX 300 because there wasn't anything in the x10 series worth upgrading for. When they launched the x20 series they added Atmos so it was worth the upgrade. Even when they come out with a new MRX I just can't see upgrading unless there is something really enticing but I just can't imagine what that would be.

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I wouldn't mind getting an MRX 720, but the MSRP is pretty rediculous on them. It's hard to know what is considered good pricing or what number to try and negotiate to when there isn't an opportunity to get 'last year's model on blowout' type of deal. I keep my eye on the used market as well, currently one being offered at $1800 CND which still seems steep though.

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My first Anthem was the MRX 300 and I used it as a pre/pro (same way I use the MRX 720). When they launched the x10 series I stayed with the MRX 300 because there wasn't anything in the x10 series worth upgrading for. When they launched the x20 series they added Atmos so it was worth the upgrade. Even when they come out with a new MRX I just can't see upgrading unless there is something really enticing but I just can't imagine what that would be.
I'm still running my MRX 700 but I honestly don't get to use that room much anymore.
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I would like to see them update HDMI to support the higher bandwidth since new TVs are coming out including 8k but also add more processing power similar to what the D2V has. From what I remember, they said the D2V had more processing power than the AVM and X20 series. I would also like to see a new Statement Pre\pro

That would require new hardware. Check post #6754 .


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I'm not suggesting that they update the current series, I would like to see them update hardware with a new model. The MRX was never designed to be modular like some other companies have decided to design theirs.

I think the only model that was updated with newer hardware was the D2V when 3D came out and you could upgrade for $1500.
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I'm not suggesting that they update the current series, I would like to see them update hardware with a new model. The MRX was never designed to be modular like some other companies have decided to design theirs.



I think the only model that was updated with newer hardware was the D2V when 3D came out and you could upgrade for $1500.

Gotcha...NAD will allow you to swap out the HDMI board/module.


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Since we are talking wish list for an upcoming AVR, « UPnP/DLNA Media Renderer », so I stop streaming HiFi music (PlayFi) over Wifi (even if it’s 5Ghz) and use my Audirvana player over wired network.

The current alternative is to have an external media renderer box (network DAC) connected to MRX.
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I agree. DTS Play-Fi is crap.

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I'm still running my MRX 700 but I honestly don't get to use that room much anymore.
I'm still using my MRX-500 in the bedroom, .i.e, DIRECTV viewing, BD, music; got it set up with Apogee Centaur Minor ribbon speakers and a Phase Technology sub (OLD SCHOOL speakers..lol); still sounds wonderful. The MRX-720 setup is downstairs for serious listening/viewing.

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I agree. DTS Play-Fi is crap.

Well, it might not be the best thing since sliced bread, but I don't think it's crap. It works pretty well for me. But I'm open to new things.
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Owner's Thread for Anthem 60, 720 and 1120 Receivers

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I agree. DTS Play-Fi is crap.
Ok that’s a bit harsh :-) It supports critical listening, which will stream the source without any compression. Tidal HiFi/PlayFi sounded pretty good on the MRX720, (Play-Fi server running on MRX buffers audio to deal w any wifi impairements). And it has its +, read below.

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Well, it might not be the best thing since sliced bread, but I don't think it's crap. It works pretty well for me. But I'm open to new things.
It also works very well for me and has some nice convenient features (recent, presets,...) but my biggest pet peeve, is that it requires the device to stream from and will drain battery life.

If Anthem supported UPnP media renderer, then any other player on a NAS, media server,... could free up my mobile to just using it as a remote controller and not streaming audio to the MRX.
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I just bought an used MRX 720 and have some questions, haven't read this tread from first post at all so maybe it has also already been answered.

I use external amplifier for my front speakers and thought about using the internal amplifier for some other channels, how is the hardware separation for the channels? Is it PCB routed or in cables/pins?

I'm still thinking but have a thought about using the built in linear amplifiers for ceiling speakers and use separates for the other channels. Just lift the hood but wasn't really possible to see.

Do anyone have the service manual for this receivers/processor? Or have anyone seen a full disassembly or rearrangement as I talking about?

Apologise if it's hard to read, English isn't my native language.
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I specifically chose the Anthem because it didn't have loads of fluff and exciting new features. I'd rather the money be spent on the core features I actually use, and they be done well. I don't really see what else can sensibly be added that is a "must have". The only thing I miss from my old receivers is the lack of Airplay, but that's easy fixed via AppleTv.
Same here. I recently upgraded to my 720 from an old Rotel that didn't even have digital inputs that's how long I kept it, LOL.

Anyway, I'm loving the Anthem and can't think of anything that would press me to upgrade at any time in the foreseeable future.
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I specifically chose the Anthem because it didn't have loads of fluff and exciting new features. I'd rather the money be spent on the core features I actually use, and they be done well. I don't really see what else can sensibly be added that is a "must have". The only thing I miss from my old receivers is the lack of Airplay, but that's easy fixed via AppleTv.
Exactly. Does what I want it to do flawlessly without a creak, pop, or problem.
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I'm not suggesting that they update the current series, I would like to see them update hardware with a new model. The MRX was never designed to be modular like some other companies have decided to design theirs.

I think the only model that was updated with newer hardware was the D2V when 3D came out and you could upgrade for $1500.
It may not be modular, but should it not be a simple switching out the HDMI boards and firmware upgrade? That's what it was for the previous modules from Anthem. Im sure there is enough processing power on the units. Since it doesn't look like Anthem is offering that road, I sold off my new AVM60 and Rotel RMB1585 combo and got the Denon X8500H(luckily got back what I paid for them with a $800 to spare) . Now I will have a route to the new HDMI 2.1 standard at a fraction of the cost of buying a new unit. And the Denon unit is a beaut.

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Trust me. I'm glad as well that they don't have new models coming out every year.
They do have longevity. I'm still using my AVM 20 for crying out loud, but 4-5 years is long enough. They have the resources.


HDMI 2.1.
The should just add Bluetooth for steaming. Do something like Pioneer does where it restores the sound quality.
It should be able to handle the COMPLETE version of the ARC update.
How Google Chromecast built in?
And for those poor souls who use apple, air play?
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HDMI 2.1.
The should just add Bluetooth for steaming. Do something like Pioneer does where it restores the sound quality.
It should be able to handle the COMPLETE version of the ARC update.
How Google Chromecast built in?
And for those poor souls who use apple, air play?
I don't think Anthem would want BT, guessing because the quality is not there. At least that's what I hear from people about BT streaming. I only do this in my wife's car, and it ain't the greatest system to begin with, so it sounds O.K., but not stunning. Not apples to apples - the car vs. Anthem/Pardigm. Are you saying Pioneer does something to restore the quality of BT audio?

No Google for me, thanks. Bad enough I have an Android TV. Blech! Each to their own.
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Bluetooth audio is pretty compressed. If Pioneer is doing something to it, it isn't "restoring the sound quality" because you can't magically create what is missing, but you can do sort of an "audio upscale" to interpolate missing information and such. I would rather just have better audio sources over Bluetooth, but those sources need to work too. (hint hint, nudge nudge)

BT has its place... Simple little portable audio speakers, car audio, wireless earbuds, but it was designed to be a quick and dirty audio transport, not a quality audio transport, so that is all I use it for. For others, I think the desire for ease of use of Bluetooth is all that they want, regardless of quality. With a flagship product, it should be an option, but so should (reliable) high quality audio transport formats...
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Hi
So currently using MRX-1120 with MCA 325. I have Prestige 2000 sub, Paradign 85F for front 55 for center and in ceiling P65R for rears as it's open to the kitchen and I have 9ft ceiling.Not complaining 5.1 sounds totally awesome. I can't put another set of speakers in the ceiling without causing a lot of repair work so was wondering if anybody used atmos add-on speakers to for atmos? I have a pair of Prestige 15B that I could put on the stereo stand and point them upward. Just wondering if anybody has done this or is it just a waste of time?
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Hi Guys, Just thought I'd quickly drop in and say Hi... I purchased an MRX720 (replacing an XMC-1). Dropped it into the system yesterday and am in the process of getting it dialed in. I have not run ARC yet, that'll be a job for the weekend.

I have hit a slight road-block with the dreaded networking issues many of you appear to have experienced, I've hit up Anthem support to help get me over the line, so will see how things go... reading through this thread has given me a few more things to try also when I get home - thanks.

Looking forward to getting it nicely dialed in and sitting down and actually listening to it.

BTW, I'm currently running 2.2(dual sub) system, but in seven weeks we move into our new home with dedicated 7.2.4 man cave - hence the 'necessary' upgrade

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Hi Guys, Just thought I'd quickly drop in and say Hi... I purchased an MRX720 (replacing an XMC-1). Dropped it into the system yesterday and am in the process of getting it dialed in. I have not run ARC yet, that'll be a job for the weekend.

I have hit a slight road-block with the dreaded networking issues many of you appear to have experienced, I've hit up Anthem support to help get me over the line, so will see how things go... reading through this thread has given me a few more things to try also when I get home - thanks.

Looking forward to getting it nicely dialed in and sitting down and actually listening to it.

BTW, I'm currently running 2.2(dual sub) system, but in seven weeks we move into our new home with dedicated 7.2.4 man cave - hence the 'necessary' upgrade

Shane

Definitely keep us posted! Hit the good folks up here in this thread if the networking keeps giving you issues.

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Definitely keep us posted! Hit the good folks up here in this thread if the networking keeps giving you issues.
Thanks Jonas2

Well I'm still having a sh*t old time at the moment, was plugging away till 1.30am this morning until sleepiness took over. Problems being:

1. Cant get wireless to see my network. Although signal is good...tonight I will try a stand-alone wireless router parked right next to the unit.

2. Took me FOREVER to get Play-Fi software to update... about 2000 AC reboots and it now says it's done... but cant set it up due to problem #1

3. Wired network works for a few minutes, then just drops... all lights go out for no apparent reason

I still haven't heard back from Anthem Support yet, which is disappointing. So will give them another nudge shortly. Although, judging on what I've read here, seems like nothing can be done without a future FW upgrade?

I have updated it to latest FW 14095

It's a real shame, as I was full of anticipation on deciding on and receiving this unit... this has kinda knocked the wind out of my sails

On a more positive note... I took 20 mins to sit down and listen to some music and it's sounds absolutely awesome!... that's without ARC running yet, just fronts and subs at 80Hz XO... So, at least there's that to keep me optimistic

I'll keep you all posted... Any advice anyone has in meantime would be much appreciated.

cheers
Shane

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