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What kind of amp? Not that it should matter.

Can you measure the trigger voltage while the amp is connected? Maybe use an earphone splitter cable then a male-to-male cable so you can get access to the tip and sleeve terminals. Make sure the AVM is turned off while changing the connections. Just in case it is as poorly designed as a Marantz.
I have a Theta Dreadnaut 5 channel and two Ayre MX-5's. I can get them to turn on with the trigger but not off.
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So with the new beta release is it worth calibrating ? No issues ?


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Owner's Thread for Anthem 60, 720 and 1120 Receivers

Found the problem. It’s the subwoofer that is causing the issue with the offset values. Though abit odd but at least we know where the issue lies. So Roger is right with his theory. But I have no clue why there is a sudden change to the way my subwoofer sounded?! That’s still a mystery to me. Something we learned here is that a slight change in subwoofer gain or phase can cause ARC Genesis to screw up with the calibration.

Now everything is back to default 75db.


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Even though my speaker level settings are identical with the beta version, the main volume is lower. Strange.

Before, at -30 on the MV, I was reaching 75 dB with most material. Now it's more like -27.
How does it compare with ARC2?


My observation - version 1.0.1.8867:
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Compared with ARC2, all speaker levels are +3dB, the SPL on same MV is 4dB higher with ARC / 3dB without ARC - the difference in SPL with and without ARC on the same MV was 3dB with ARC2 and now is 2dB with Genesis.
The beta version brings the volume back down closer to ARC2 levels.
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Power Calculation Question?

Well, here's an odd one.

Suppose you connect an MRX 520 to an Anthem A5 using unbalanced cables. The 520 is rated at 100W -- not sure if that's all channels driven. The A5 is rated at 180W all channels driven. Easy so far.

Some posts here have stated that there's a 6 dB loss due to use of unbalanced cables. Assuming that's true, how does one calculate the effective rated output all channels driven in this configuration?

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Dont know why Genesis wants to boost all channel levels so high nut its fighting over 15 db with SVS subwoofer manuals guide.

Had to reduce - 15 db from new subwoofers recommendatin to ARC genesis even start room correction. Ended +12 on subwoofer???

So it dont let me aven run ARC without running sub +12 hot???

Running new beta Genesis.. Think it has a bit to improve.


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Well, here's an odd one.



Suppose you connect an MRX 520 to an Anthem A5 using unbalanced cables. The 520 is rated at 100W -- not sure if that's all channels driven. The A5 is rated at 180W all channels driven. Easy so far.



Some posts here have stated that there's a 6 dB loss due to use of unbalanced cables. Assuming that's true, how does one calculate the effective rated output all channels driven in this configuration?


Assuming that the MRX 520 preamp can drive the A5 to full power — the A5 requires about 1.5 Vrms for 225 watts — the A5 should be able to produce 180 watts per channel with all channels driven. That power would not be dependent on the MRX 520’s power amps, which would operate independently. A potential limitation on total output power might be your electrical circuit. But very seldom will your amplifier be asked to put out maximum power on all channels simultaneously.
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Trying to read through all the threads and couldn't figure out if you eventually got this resolved. For what it's worth, I have Ubiquity WAPs (and a Synology server) and use PlayFi without any issues. IMHO it's a combination of the device you're streaming through as well as WiFi robustness.

Here's a test I just recommended to a friend of mine having the same issue ... shut down all the apps on your device so no other running apps can interfere with PlayFi. I recommend this because another app can interefere with the playback if it encounters a network issue. Secondly, place your device next to your router to ensure maximum signal and throughput. If it plays without an issue you've at least narrowed the problem down to the device and/or the signal it's getting.

I have an Iphone X with a Ubiquity LR WAP. The WAP in the same room as my system so never more than 25 feet away - in other words a very strong WiFi signal. Fairly new to my Anthem receiver but PlayFi has worked perfectly since I got it. Also recommend you update the firmware on your WAP and router ... just to be sure.
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I re-ran everything using the new beta and it kept my levels the same. The MV does seem less hot but that's purely anecdotal. I haven't done any formal testing on it.

As for sound, it's great. No distortion at all and well recorded music is simply bliss.

I'm attaching the PDF of my setup just in case anyone cares to have a look and offer their thoughts or suggestions. I have my mains and surrounds corrected to 800 Hz and my center to 1600 Hz as I was trying to match its curve up to my other speakers a bit better. Based on what I've listened to so far, everything integrates pretty darn good!
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Dont know why Genesis wants to boost all channel levels so high nut its fighting over 15 db with SVS subwoofer manuals guide.

Had to reduce - 15 db from new subwoofers recommendatin to ARC genesis even start room correction. Ended +12 on subwoofer???

So it dont let me aven run ARC without running sub +12 hot???

Running new beta Genesis.. Think it has a bit to improve.

Wow...all the speaker trim levels at +12db after Genesis?
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Wow...all the speaker trim levels at +12db after Genesis?

Yes thats where it set them. Before all the fronts and center has been same and surrounds couple db's less. ARC wants subwoofer trim same boost as fronts what dont make sense.

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Yes thats where it set them. Before all the fronts and center has been same and surrounds couple db's less. ARC wants subwoofer trim same boost as fronts what dont make sense.


I hate to say this...but this seems not right as it has reached the max threshold (+12db) of ARC Genesis. Nothing should reach maximum with no headroom to wriggle.



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Dont know why Genesis wants to boost all channel levels so high nut its fighting over 15 db with SVS subwoofer manuals guide.

Had to reduce - 15 db from new subwoofers recommendatin to ARC genesis even start room correction. Ended +12 on subwoofer???
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Could you post your ARC report pdf?
Allready went back to initial ARC Genesis release it doesn't boost any channels to max and i have more wiggleroom if drop systemwide level target to 72db.

Allso subwoofer is allowed to run with higher gain. I'll post report when finished setup.

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Could you post your ARC report pdf?

This is rather interesting report.

Moved the PC-4000 to back corner close to sofa and the reinforced desibels are pretty much +8db compared to having it front between openings to other areas in house. At least the initial release seems to work good on my situation. Going to need longer subwoofer cable to test more spots for placement.

Subwoofer volume -20 in this report with 1 port plugged for extended range. Have whole range of different configurations to try.

Its really nice in Genesis that you can measure single speaker/sub and update it to the whole calculations.
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I got a new Anthem AVM 60 this weekend during the 20% promotion. I had previously owned a 720 MRX and was very happy with it but sold to downsize and focus on audio-only in my smaller house. We moved to a larger home with a dedicated theater/listening area last month so I have begun to build back up.

I do have some regret now that I'm looking at buying external amps, wondering if I shouldn't have just bought the 1120 instead. But I knew I wanted to eventually upgrade to an installed system and figured the AVM would be the best bet to add some ATI amps down the road.

As it is right now I have a mish-mash of amps (everything from a Luxman 509X integrated in HT Bypass mode for the mains, to an old/vintage Nelson Pass designed Adcom GFA 5300 amp to power surrounds). The system is running as a 5.2.2 with Klipsch RP-140A front Dolby Atmos-enabled speakers, powered by a vintage Luxman M2000 amp. The Luxman 509X is powering Klipsch La Scala II mains; an old Yamaha VR375 AVR is running the single center channel (Klipsch RP450C). So the amps are pretty much scavenged from old basement AVRs and other vintage 2 channel systems I have sitting around. I have an SVS SB16-Ultra in the rear corner and an SB-2000 in the opposite front corner to even out the bass & reduce localization from the monster SB16.

Although I was very familiar with ARC 2, I am very happy with how ARC Genesis has been able to tie together all of the different amps into a first-class home theater sound. It truly sounds massive and Genesis did a great job creating a cohesive-sounding system. The bass is impactful and earth-shaking without being either boomy and uneven or dead/MIA - I've experienced both with poor calibration setting before. It only took me about 4-5 go-rounds tweaking the Genesis settings to get everything sounding great.

My remaining issue is with the room is a slap echo that is more prominent on the dialogue/center channel. I did not expect Genesis to be able to tame that, so it's something I'll live with until my acoustic panels deliver in about 3 more weeks.

All in all I am really happy with my return to Anthem, and with ARC Genesis in particular!
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Anyone try the latest ARC Genesis beta? Any improvements from the initial release? I've used the initial release of Genesis. So far, it is definitely louder on my MRX 520 and I also had to lower the volume of both of my subwoofers when calibrating compared to ARC2, despite previously using a meter to set them to around 75 dB when together.
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Issue With Running ARC Room Correction

I searched for a while for an answer before posting but I did not find anything so I thought I would take a shortcut if I may. I installed my MRX-720 last night. Everything looks good when I downloaded the ARC software etc. from the Anthem website. When I connect the mic to my pc, I see the mic serial# but when I select the mic I receive the "critical audio problem. Please check microphone and speaker connectors." I have checked everything I can think of. I even run a tone test on the speakers and actually performed a manual set-up. I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks in advance
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I searched for a while for an answer before posting but I did not find anything so I thought I would take a shortcut if I may. I installed my MRX-720 last night. Everything looks good when I downloaded the ARC software etc. from the Anthem website. When I connect the mic to my pc, I see the mic serial# but when I select the mic I receive the "critical audio problem. Please check microphone and speaker connectors." I have checked everything I can think of. I even run a tone test on the speakers and actually performed a manual set-up. I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks in advance
Are you running ARC-2 or ARC Genesis?

BTW more people are likely to see your question if you post it in:

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Thanks Bill, I will repost this in the owners forum. I downloaded ARC Genesis. I did not see ARC 2.
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I searched for a while for an answer before posting but I did not find anything so I thought I would take a shortcut if I may. I installed my MRX-720 last night. Everything looks good when I downloaded the ARC software etc. from the Anthem website. When I connect the mic to my pc, I see the mic serial# but when I select the mic I receive the "critical audio problem. Please check microphone and speaker connectors." I have checked everything I can think of. I even run a tone test on the speakers and actually performed a manual set-up. I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks in advance
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I searched for a while for an answer before posting but I did not find anything so I thought I would take a shortcut if I may. I installed my MRX-720 last night. Everything looks good when I downloaded the ARC software etc. from the Anthem website. When I connect the mic to my pc, I see the mic serial# but when I select the mic I receive the "critical audio problem. Please check microphone and speaker connectors." I have checked everything I can think of. I even run a tone test on the speakers and actually performed a manual set-up. I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks in advance
I had the same issue on an AVM60. I went to Anthem's facebook and read some of the comments. They said this issue, which others were also having, is fixed in the Beta version of ARC Genesis. I downloaded the Beta, and it worked perfectly. Try that, and see if it fixes your issue.
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Current official version should have that fixed.

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HDMI outputs to 2 different Displays - causing an issue

Discovered an issue with the way Anthem manage its HDMI outputs. I have one Projector (JVC DLA-N7) and a Samsung 4K monitor. Both display accepts UHD signal but ONLY the projector have HDR processing capability. One of the HDMI cable is an active Optic fibre cable (10m) connecting to my Samsung 4K monitor for casual viewing whenever I don't feel like watching it on a big-screen using my Projector. There is no problem sending 4K signal to BOTH displays but whenever I play a 4K UHD with HDR content, my Projector "refused" to play HDR (because the color gamut has automatically reverted to SDR 709 although the bit depth accepts 10/12-bit. For HDR content to be played, it require a BT2020 colorimetry profile.

Solution: I literally have to unplug the active fibre optic HDMI cable connecting to my Samsung 4K monitor for the Projector to work.

Comments: The 2 HDMI Outputs on my Anthem MRX-720 seems to take in a 4K signal based on the lowest display denominator - which in this case is my Samsung 4K UHD monitor which allows 4K signal to pass through (with HDCP 2.2) but not HDR capable and because of that, my JVC Projector will NOT allow HDR to be processed even when my monitor is turned off (presumably without any signal been pass through)! I thought this is kind of odd?!

My question now is whether to send Anthem a support ticket on this HDMI output issue or is there a workaround solution to my woes? I can't possibly be plugging/unplugging the my active fibre HDMI out whenever I want to watch 4K UHD with HDR content. That's not the solution.

Anyone have any experience with this HDMI output issue or is this a universally "known" AV industry fact that whenever you mix-and-match 2 "different" displays, the more "incapable" display will take precedence over the more capable display (in this case, my JVC projector)? Why when I shut down the monitor (powered off literally), my MRX-720 still have a "lock-in" to the EDID of my Samsung 4K monitor?!

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Discovered an issue with the way Anthem manage its HDMI outputs. I have one Projector (JVC DLA-N7) and a Samsung 4K monitor. Both display accepts UHD signal but ONLY the projector have HDR processing capability. One of the HDMI cable is an active Optic fibre cable (10m) connecting to my Samsung 4K monitor for casual viewing whenever I don't feel like watching it on a big-screen using my Projector. There is no problem sending 4K signal to BOTH displays but whenever I play a 4K UHD with HDR content, my Projector "refused" to play HDR (because the color gamut has automatically reverted to SDR 709 although the bit depth accepts 10/12-bit. For HDR content to be played, it require a BT2020 colorimetry profile.



Solution: I literally have to unplug the active fibre optic HDMI cable connecting to my Samsung 4K monitor for the Projector to work.



Comments: The 2 HDMI Outputs on my Anthem MRX-720 seems to take in a 4K signal based on the lowest display denominator - which in this case is my Samsung 4K UHD monitor which allows 4K signal to pass through (with HDCP 2.2) but not HDR capable and because of that, my JVC Projector will NOT allow HDR to be processed even when my monitor is turned off (presumably without any signal been pass through)! I thought this is kind of odd?!



My question now is whether to send Anthem a support ticket on this HDMI output issue or is there a workaround solution to my woes? I can't possibly be plugging/unplugging the my active fibre HDMI out whenever I want to watch 4K UHD with HDR content. That's not the solution.



Anyone have any experience with this HDMI output issue or is this a universally "known" AV industry fact that whenever you mix-and-match 2 "different" displays, the more "incapable" display will take precedence over the more capable display (in this case, my JVC projector)? Why when I shut down the monitor (powered off literally), my MRX-720 still have a "lock-in" to the EDID of my Samsung 4K monitor?!



I had exactly the same issue , sent email to support and no help.

The HDMI is claimed to be support the max 'common' resolution /spec the sink supported.
I.e. your case is 4k without HDR.

Regarding the sink is on or off, I suspect even TV is off, it still remember if present the EDID in standby mode, or your fiber HDMI has a chipset inside and remember the setting.

The only workaround for me was to unplug the HDMI. And I found it not acceptable either after weeks.


So I purchased HDFury Integral 2(splitter ) It handles any EDID issue nicely, always present a predefined signal to Anthem, highly configurable and stable.
I have never seens any handshake issue since I using it for more than half year .
The only downside is you need to pay extra money... (With some other features that no might not need)

In my experience, the Anthem HDMI can get confused by sink easily. So I always only has 1 HDMI connected to the splitter .







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Thanks everyone for your input. I have tried pretty much everything I know and all suggestions. Nothing has seemed to work. Going to call anthem tomorrow.
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HDMI outputs to 2 different Displays - causing an issue
In my case I am feeding the 4k PJ and a 2k AV processor -- neither are HDR. As Mr. Lai said, a smart splitter will help. I went with a $55 unit from Gofanco, which would also appear to cover your case.
https://www.gofanco.com/4k-hdr-1x2-s...split2p-c.html

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In my case I am feeding the 4k PJ and a 2k AV processor -- neither are HDR. As Mr. Lai said, a smart splitter will help. I went with a $55 unit from Gofanco, which would also appear to cover your case.

https://www.gofanco.com/4k-hdr-1x2-s...split2p-c.html


Thanks for the tip.


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I had exactly the same issue , sent email to support and no help.

The HDMI is claimed to be support the max 'common' resolution /spec the sink supported.
I.e. your case is 4k without HDR.

Regarding the sink is on or off, I suspect even TV is off, it still remember if present the EDID in standby mode, or your fiber HDMI has a chipset inside and remember the setting.

The only workaround for me was to unplug the HDMI. And I found it not acceptable either after weeks.


So I purchased HDFury Integral 2(splitter ) It handles any EDID issue nicely, always present a predefined signal to Anthem, highly configurable and stable.
I have never seens any handshake issue since I using it for more than half year .
The only downside is you need to pay extra money... (With some other features that no might not need)

In my experience, the Anthem HDMI can get confused by sink easily. So I always only has 1 HDMI connected to the splitter .







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Thanks for the tip. Save me the trouble to email Anthem support team then. Glad to know that I’m not the one who is encountering this annoyance.


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Hello All,

I have an MRX 720 and an MCA 525 and I was wondering if anyone can help me gain some understanding re: what to expect going from MRX 720 to MCA 525. I have a 33x13x8 listening room and I initially bought an MRX 720 which I thought was leaving too little elbow room (i.e., most movies had to be turned up all the way) and music listening was between -20 to -15db for (75-80db SPL). So, I bought myself an MCA 525 to give me enough elbow room and play a little louder.

This system is driving a PSB X2 system (X2Ts, X2Bs and X2C).

My observation is that the overall setup with the MRX and the MCA is not _that much_ louder than just the MRX 720. What am I missing? I thought the difference in wattage across tightly integrated product lines (i.e., since the MRXs are made to work with MCAs). For quick reference, the MRX pumps out 140WPC channels 1-5 (that's all I use) and the MCA 525 puts out 225W per channel (on all 5 channels).

Let me explain: I listen to music regularly at -30 to -25db volume gain (i.e., I have gained maybe -10dB volume gain room) and movies at -20dB (gained about -10db). I connect using RCA cables (obviously).

BTW, I find listening without ARC for music better and for HT, I do use ARC (ARC genesis does pump up my fronts up by +8dB or so).

Have I just gained cleaner sound with my MCA instead of more loudness (SPL)?

Any insight is appreciated.
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