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Was thing about getting an MRX 720 but the dealer I usually use doesn't want to budge on the price except the 20% from Anthem. Can you guys please tell me what I could reasonably expect as an additional discount? Maybe through PM so I don't break any rules? I know in the past using this dealer I got a decent percentage off Paradigm speakers but that was years ago.
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Ah yes, so why was this asked?



This should be relevant by 2023 or so.


Its already implemented by some TVs and receivers/processors.


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Ah yes, so why was this asked?



This should be relevant by 2023 or so.

Its already implemented by some TVs and receivers/processors.


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For what material? There's no point to it. Probably won't be for 5+ years.

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I forgot to mention that DTS Neural:X is my go to decoding and it is truly awesome!!! This machine is a beast!
What do you like about this vs Anthem Logic?
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Was thing about getting an MRX 720 but the dealer I usually use doesn't want to budge on the price except the 20% from Anthem. Can you guys please tell me what I could reasonably expect as an additional discount? Maybe through PM so I don't break any rules? I know in the past using this dealer I got a decent percentage off Paradigm speakers but that was years ago.
There is a guy selling his AVM 60 on another site. He is in Austin Tx. and it’s only a few months old. He says it’s in perfect condition. The warranty is transferable and he’s dropped his price to $1900...it looks like he may go as low as 18-17.
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There is a guy selling his AVM 60 on another site. He is in Austin Tx. and it’s only a few months old. He says it’s in perfect condition. The warranty is transferable and he’s dropped his price to $1900...it looks like he may go as low as 18-17.
PM me for the link if you’re interested.

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That's a great price but I don't have any external amps to fill the system out. SOmething I want to do in the future but not in this house.
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There is a guy selling his AVM 60 on another site. He is in Austin Tx. and it’s only a few months old. He says it’s in perfect condition. The warranty is transferable and he’s dropped his price to $1900...it looks like he may go as low as 18-17.
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Not sure that an Anthem warranty is transferable.

https://www.anthemav.com/support/war...nformation.php
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not sure that an anthem warranty is transferable.

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it is not transferable
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There is a guy selling his AVM 60 on another site. He is in Austin Tx. and it’️s only a few months old. He says it’️s in perfect condition. The warranty is transferable and he’️s dropped his price to $1900...it looks like he may go as low as 18-17.
PM me for the link if you’️re interested.

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Not sure that an Anthem warranty is transferable.

https://www.anthemav.com/support/war...nformation.php
Is a warranty worth $1,200? What would Anthem charge to fix it if needed? Assuming it's in good condition, it's a risk worth taking because it's unlikely anything would go wrong within the warranty period anyway.

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That's a great price but I don't have any external amps to fill the system out. SOmething I want to do in the future but not in this house.
I see.... In that case, I think that the 20% off is a pretty good deal. You’re getting $500 off. If I were in the market for an AVR or Pre Pro, I’d be all over that deal.
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I see.... In that case, I think that the 20% off is a pretty good deal. You’re getting $500 off. If I were in the market for an AVR or Pre Pro, I’d be all over that deal.
I'm used to getting 20% from the dealer themselves. THis 20% is direct through Anthem so I figured they would at least give me another 10 - 20% off especially since I have spent some good money with them over the years. I have bought an MRX700, Sub2, Sig ADP3s, etc...
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Play fi update just popped up for me today. Hopefully it will help with it dropping all the time

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Knock on wood - I can't actually remember when the last time it was I had an issue with PlayFi - it's been rock-solid for me for quite some time now! Now, I'm worried....

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In short, local server.

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Owner of a MRX 720 here, looking for some advice.

Recently purchased a Emotiva XPA 5 to run the l,c,r,rl, & rr speakers of my set up. I'd like to now run 5.2.4 from the Anthem.
First question; Can the 720 be configured to run the higher power internal amps for the ceiling speakers?
Second question; If the answer to question 2 is no, which speaker outputs do I have to use? I'd love to use the internal amps for the L,R, RL,& RR, but if this isn't an option, which do I use?

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Use the emotiva for LCR and surrounds. Use the mrx720 for front heights. Don't think you can use the mrx720 amplifier for more than one set of height speakers.

My setup is a monolith7x running 5.1.2. If I add additional height speakers I will have to use the back amplifier on the 720

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Easy way is too open up ARC and see how you can configure the amps.

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I'm used to getting 20% from the dealer themselves. THis 20% is direct through Anthem so I figured they would at least give me another 10 - 20% off especially since I have spent some good money with them over the years. I have bought an MRX700, Sub2, Sig ADP3s, etc...

I'm assuming this 20% off from Anthem is for their Trade-Up promotion? My understanding is that Anthem is subsidizing a good chunk of this (maybe half?), and the rest comes out of the dealer's profit (which is somewhat offset by the value of your trade-in). So if your dealer normally gives you 20% off and you've been a loyal customer, I would think they would give you an additional discount on top of the 20% and still be able to take in the same profit they normally would outside of the promotion.

My dealer was nice enough to give me their usual 20% discount on top of the 20% discount from the promotion (I traded in an MRX 710 that was still in good working condition). Needless to say, I was quite happy about it. Is there another Anthem dealer in your area? Even if one isn't all that close and you don't end up buying from this one, maybe you can get them to agree to an additional discount over the phone and then take this to your usual dealer to see if they match it.
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Owner of a MRX 720 here, looking for some advice.

Recently purchased a Emotiva XPA 5 to run the l,c,r,rl, & rr speakers of my set up. I'd like to now run 5.2.4 from the Anthem.
First question; Can the 720 be configured to run the higher power internal amps for the ceiling speakers?
Second question; If the answer to question 2 is no, which speaker outputs do I have to use? I'd love to use the internal amps for the L,R, RL,& RR, but if this isn't an option, which do I use?

Thanks for any help & advice!

The 720 can only run 1 set of height speakers off its internal amps. The other option is to use the height amps for zone 2 if you need. So, for the 720, you have either 5.1.2 or 5.1 + two sets of zone 2 speakers (pg 17 in the manual).


I'd suggest running FL, FR, C and either front or rear heights with the XPA5 and surrounds/other heights off the 720. That moves most of the heavy lifting to the external amp.


FWIW, I have the 720 as well in 5.1.4. However, I use 2 external amps -- Rogue Atlas Magnum II for FL & FR, remaining channels through an Emotiva UPA7. Do not use any of the 720 amps at least for now as I've been considering selling the Emotiva and running surrounds/center off the 720 and picking up a ClassD Audio for the heights.
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I'm assuming this 20% off from Anthem is for their Trade-Up promotion? My understanding is that Anthem is subsidizing a good chunk of this (maybe half?), and the rest comes out of the dealer's profit (which is somewhat offset by the value of your trade-in). So if your dealer normally gives you 20% off and you've been a loyal customer, I would think they would give you an additional discount on top of the 20% and still be able to take in the same profit they normally would outside of the promotion.

My dealer was nice enough to give me their usual 20% discount on top of the 20% discount from the promotion (I traded in an MRX 710 that was still in good working condition). Needless to say, I was quite happy about it. Is there another Anthem dealer in your area? Even if one isn't all that close and you don't end up buying from this one, maybe you can get them to agree to an additional discount over the phone and then take this to your usual dealer to see if they match it.
If you don't mind me asking, can you PM me the dealer you used? I'm assuming they are in NJ since you are listed as being in NJ. I am also in NJ. I did hit up another dealer who is a custom installer and they offered to discount their services for install but not the equipment. Since, it is just a drop and play I have no need for install.
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Hi All

New 720 owner here. So I ran the Genesis software with the attached results. As you can see, the native bass response, especially on the front left speaker, is quite high. Ditto for the center and surround left. For some reason, the >5K response for the front speakers is also naturally elevated. Unfortunately, the speaker positions are pretty much fixed.

When I activate the genesis corrections and listen to some music, although the room gain remains elevated, the bass level and character sound completely washed-out - like the bass setting is turned completed off.

So listening to the uncorrected speakers obviously provides too much bass, while the genesis settings removes too much. Is there a way to adjust the genesis parameters to reach a "happy medium"? It is not obvious how to accomplish this but if a guide is available, I will appreciate the reference

Also, as noted by other posters, for some reason the high frequency sounds are also "washed out", ie they have last their sparkle and ambience. Not sure why this is happening because the software hasn't affected those frequencies and/or doesn't go that high, but the difference in sound is noticeable

Finally, I do not understand the references to a subwoofer in the specs as I do not have a subwoofer attached....

Any insights will be appreciated!

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Sure about 13 X 24, with the system facing the short dimension and close to the left side of the room. System is in a basement suite, with door and stairs behind and to the right of the system. The significant base boost in the left speakers is because of their proximity to the left wall, about 3 ft for the left front and the left rear is tucked right into the corner, unfortunately
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As you can see, the native bass response, especially on the front left speaker, is quite high. Ditto for the center and surround left. For some reason, the >5K response for the front speakers is also naturally elevated. Unfortunately, the speaker positions are pretty much fixed.

When I activate the genesis corrections and listen to some music, although the room gain remains elevated, the bass level and character sound completely washed-out - like the bass setting is turned completed off.
In the L/R channels I see quite a bit of elevation at 150-300 Hz, which will sound thick / muddy compared to what you are used to. Try setting room gain to 0 dB instead of 6 . If you like more bass, elevate Deep Bass Boost, and watch the curve as you do. Maybe +6 dB or thereabouts would be good to try. Take note of the effect of bass boost center freq, but 50 Hz is a good start.

On the high side, for me, personally, the rather sudden increase of 6 dB above 5 kHz would be something I'd find objectionable, as it adds a brittle or glassy edge. Could try setting max EQ to 16 kHz (not 20 kHz). Then, use the Tilt Level control to add maybe +2 to 3 dB and see if that satisfies the clarity you want. You can have smoothness and brightness at the same time, if you like.

These adjustments are subjectively interactive, so you have hours of listening and adjusting ahead. But once you hear what each adjustment does, you can make decisions on where to go next.

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Finally, I do not understand the references to a subwoofer in the specs as I do not have a subwoofer attached....
Note that the report says:
>>Subwoofer Crossover Frequency (or Low-Frequency Extension): 31 Hz
>>Send Bass to Sub (or Low-Frequency Extension Slope): 6th

In your case, ignore 'subwoofer' and read the parenthetical.

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In the L/R channels I see quite a bit of elevation at 150-300 Hz, which will sound thick / muddy compared to what you are used to. Try setting room gain to 0 dB instead of 6 . If you like more bass, elevate Deep Bass Boost, and watch the curve as you do. Maybe +6 dB or thereabouts would be good to try. Take note of the effect of bass boost center freq, but 50 Hz is a good start.

On the high side, for me, personally, the rather sudden increase of 6 dB above 5 kHz would be something I'd find objectionable, as it adds a brittle or glassy edge. Could try setting max EQ to 16 kHz (not 20 kHz). The, use the Tilt Level control to add maybe +2 to 3 dB and see if that satisfies the clarity you want. You can have smoothness and brightness at the same time, if you like.

These adjustments are subjectively interactive, so you have hours of listening and adjusting ahead. But once you hear what each adjustment does, you can make decisions on where to go next.

Note that the report says:
>>Subwoofer Crossover Frequency (or Low-Frequency Extension): 31 Hz
>>Send Bass to Sub (or Low-Frequency Extension Slope): 6th

In your case, ignore 'subwoofer' and read the parenthetical.
Thanks for the detailed assessment! I will try your suggestions as soon as I can!
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Thanks for the detailed assessment! I will try your suggestions as soon as I can!


You can make all these changes to one of the 4 Profiles, so then it's easy to switch back/forth on the fly to compare.
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Question on subwoofers and the MRX 720. I have not had subwoofers in my systems for 15 years (finally leaving condo life for a single family home). Along with getting the 720, I'm looking at getting a pair of good subs. I know in high-end 2-channel world, most prefer connecting their subs using the speaker level (or high level) input mode.

Is that doable with the 720, and if yes, advisable? My hunch is with home theater, the answer is no. Guessing with ARC processing it is going to be advised to just use the pair of sub outputs I see on the back of the 720.

Do the sub outputs on the receiver send low frequency information when playing 2-channel music? In other words, it's not just low end sound effects for movies.

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