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Owner's Thread for Anthem 60, 720 and 1120 Receivers

Question on how to operate/setup my MRX-720 when connecting an integrated amp. Sorry for the length.

I've been looking at a Naim Uniti Nova Stereo/Integrated Amp ever since I heard it when I was buying my current Focal speakers. I would like to integrate it into my Home Theater system and need to figure out how its going to work before I buy it.

The connections are similar to a normal amp except the Nova does not have a normal Home Theater Bypass input. The Nova has what's called a AV fixed volume control that's turned on/off via their app and available only on the analog inputs. Here's a description (See 4.3.8 below), "AV Fixed Volume, if YES is selection on the input, it will operate at a fixed volume and the Nova's volume control will be disabled. This enables Nova to be used in multi-channel AV systems with volume control handled by the AV processor (MRX-720)."






Does this mean that I use the MRX-720 to control the volume?

From what I understand during research here's how it connects:
  • MRX-720 - main left and right main pre-outputs to the on the Nova's #1 Analog Input.
  • FL/FR speakers connect to the Nova while other stay connected to the MRX-720.
  • The Nova stereo amplifier will now power the main L/R when playing both movies and music.
  • Run ARC Genesis to adjust the levels of all channels.







How do I switch back and forth between movies and music?

What inputs do I setup in the MRX-720?

Thank you very much!!

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@mbroadus . So if I understand the Naim is a streamer with a preamp and an amp built.

When your streaming from the Naim, the Anthem doesn’t have to be on.

And you use the built in volume control of the Naim to listen to your stereo stream.

When you turn the Anthem on for movies or TV and you have selected the AV Fixed Volume On option, the Naim will automatically switch to a fixed level and act as an amplifier only.

You don’t have to reconfigure anything in the Anthem.
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I hard wired my MRX 1120 for a more reliable, stable connection. However, I couldn't connect to it. My solution was to unplug the ethernet cable and connect to WiFi, which worked immediately. Not ideal, but it worked easily enough.


I really love the Anthem app on the iPhone. I've been working from home at my kitchen island and it's so convenient being able to change the volume from my phone rather than having to walk over to the living room.


I also installed the Play-Fi app, which seems like a better solution than playing music through my AppleTV. I like that when you open the app, the receiver automatically switches the input to Play-Fi.

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Researching my next receiver and the MRX720 looks like the minimum model to get me something that can process 11 channels (plus sub) with Anthem Room Correction (ARC). Seems like ARC is available in some other products but that there is nothing "cheaper" than the MRX720 that can process 11 channels. Is that a correct statement?

(And, if so, is there a reliable source of b-stock or refurb units?)

(Any guesses about when the 720 gets replaced with a newer offering?)


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@mbroadus . So if I understand the Naim is a streamer with a preamp and an amp built.

When your streaming from the Naim, the Anthem doesn’t have to be on.

And you use the built in volume control of the Naim to listen to your stereo stream.

When you turn the Anthem on for movies or TV and you have selected the AV Fixed Volume On option, the Naim will automatically switch to a fixed level and act as an amplifier only.

You don’t have to reconfigure anything in the Anthem.
Thank you very much...

I curious if my sub will work when using the Nova and the AVR is off?

Since the fixed volume would always be on, I would just have to switch to the RCA 1 input on the Nova each time I want to watch TV.

I guess the other option is to use it as a preamp/streamer and connect it directly to the MRX-720 RCA input but that's a lot of money to spend on a streamer and not use the amp section.

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Researching my next receiver and the MRX720 looks like the minimum model to get me something that can process 11 channels (plus sub) with Anthem Room Correction (ARC). Seems like ARC is available in some other products but that there is nothing "cheaper" than the MRX720 that can process 11 channels. Is that a correct statement?
I believe so...

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(And, if so, is there a reliable source of b-stock or refurb units?)
Check Crutchfield, they do sell open box, but it still may not be the best deal.

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(Any guesses about when the 720 gets replaced with a newer offering?)
Only Anthem knows....

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Thank you very much...

I curious if my sub will work when using the Nova and the AVR is off?

Since the fixed volume would always be on, I would just have to switch to the RCA 1 input on the Nova each time I want to watch TV.

I guess the other option is to use it as a preamp/streamer and connect it directly to the MRX-720 RCA input but that's a lot of money to spend on a streamer and not use the amp section.

Have you tried DTS Play-Fi, that is what I am using and It does a great job with Internet Radio, Tidal and SiriusXM.

And the Anthem sounds great.

Less hassle than having to add an extra box.
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Researching my next receiver and the MRX720 looks like the minimum model to get me something that can process 11 channels (plus sub) with Anthem Room Correction (ARC). Seems like ARC is available in some other products but that there is nothing "cheaper" than the MRX720 that can process 11 channels. Is that a correct statement?

(And, if so, is there a reliable source of b-stock or refurb units?)

(Any guesses about when the 720 gets replaced with a newer offering?)
Hi,

If you can stretch to an 1120, it’s a one box solution.

And they sound really well balanced. Even without room correction.

But a 720 is great as well. Just not as flexible as the marantz if you are using external amps.

The Anthem amp is not reassignable. Originally bought a 720 and returned it for the 1120.

Removed my 5 channel Rotel amp and I haven’t looked back since.

And the rack looks better too.
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I'm interested in the 1120, how does it compare to the Marantz SR8012?
I am 50/50 HT and music
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Owner's Thread for Anthem 60, 720 and 1120 Receivers

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Have you tried DTS Play-Fi, that is what I am using and It does a great job with Internet Radio, Tidal and SiriusXM.



And the Anthem sounds great.



Less hassle than having to add an extra box.


Yes but I'm not a fan of Play-Fi, sounds a little lifeless and muted to me. I have a bluesound node 2i that I'm using to stream via coax to the Anthem and its fine, not nearly on the same level as the Nova, it the Nova is a lot more expensive. I may just add a external DAC (Chord Qutest) and Sonore streamer and call it a day.

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Thanks. Not sure that the 1120 has anything I need. The internal power of the 720 is fine for my speakers and room.

Not a giant fan of Audyssey or Marantz / Denon though I will continue to use one in my casual tv viewing space.

I’ve been impressed by ARC and don’t mind using external amplification for the overhead speakers, so the 720 should have everything I "need." I was just hoping I was missing an obvious way to get what I "need" for notably less than 2.5k.

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Hi,

If you can stretch to an 1120, it’s a one box solution.

And they sound really well balanced. Even without room correction.

But a 720 is great as well. Just not as flexible as the marantz if you are using external amps.

The Anthem amp is not reassignable. Originally bought a 720 and returned it for the 1120.

Removed my 5 channel Rotel amp and I haven’t looked back since.

And the rack looks better too.


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Mbroadus, I've been looking to add a higher quality dac to my existing mrx 720 receiver. I have a 5.2 system and looked at many integrated amps and preamps. Im also using a Node 2. My only goal was to get Qobuz into a better dac. Lumin t2 or Cary dms600 etc.. but I did not want to lose room correction if I bypassed the 720. Same result with the Anthem str integrated or Anthem str preamplifier.
Are you using RC and you will just forego the RC if you go that route?

To me, the price of everything added up just for Qobuz was not 2orth it for the upgrade. I may ultimately forego RC to have more choices of preamps, integrateds.

I'm also wondering how the subs work with the ht bypass. I'd like to use them with 2 channel as well as SS.
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Mbroadus, I've been looking to add a higher quality dac to my existing mrx 720 receiver. I have a 5.2 system and looked at many integrated amps and preamps. Im also using a Node 2. My only goal was to get Qobuz into a better dac. Lumin t2 or Cary dms600 etc.. but I did not want to lose room correction if I bypassed the 720. Same result with the Anthem str integrated or Anthem str preamplifier.
Are you using RC and you will just forego the RC if you go that route?

To me, the price of everything added up just for Qobuz was not 2orth it for the upgrade. I may ultimately forego RC to have more choices of preamps, integrateds.

I'm also wondering how the subs work with the ht bypass. I'd like to use them with 2 channel as well as SS.
Good luck

No, I’m not using room correction for my 2-channel audio. I’m streaming Qobuz and Tidal via coax from the Node 2i to the 720 with no correction. I’m going back to my original thought of implementing a Sonore streamer into a Chord Qutest to the 720. Yes, I love the sound of the Nova but didn’t want to lose my sub.


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No, I’m not using room correction for my 2-channel audio. I’m streaming Qobuz and Tidal via coax from the Node 2i to the 720 with no correction. I’m going back to my original thought of implementing a Sonore streamer into a Chord Qutest to the 720. Yes, I love the sound of the Nova but didn’t want to lose my sub.


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So you're using the dac in the 720 instead of the Node2i? I believe with the coax, you're bypassing the Node's dac. Some people seem to like the dynamics in 2 channel more with no room correction. Personally, I'm using the 720 dac, again, for RC of the 720.

Also, I think something like the Anthem str integrated amp or str preamp which has ht bypass and sub outs can surely allow one to use a subwoofer in both stereo and HT use. I don't know, it's just a shame if you can't do that. I haven't gotten that far in my research. Ha!

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So you're using the dac in the 720 instead of the Node2i? I believe with the coax, you're bypassing the Node's dac. Some people seem to like the dynamics in 2 channel more with no room correction. Personally, I'm using the 720 dac, again, for RC of the 720.

Also, I think something like the Anthem str integrated amp or str preamp which has ht bypass and sub outs can surely allow one to use a subwoofer in both stereo and HT use. I don't know, it's just a shame if you can't do that. I haven't gotten that far in my research. Ha!

Good luck

Yes, using the DAC in the 720 rather than the Node 2i. With the sale, now is a good time to buy an integrated or amp...an amp is never outdated and holds value. The STR integrated is considered one of the best so now is a good time to buy.


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Need your help experts...I'm currently looking to buy a Naim Uniti Nova and have run into a problem with how to integrate my sub (SVS SB-3000). The Nova is a stereo amplifier, pre-amp, streamer that will be connected to my Anthem multichannel AVR via FL/FR pre-outs and Nova RCA 1 which has a AV fixed volume input that works similar to a home theater bypass. So, when I play my home theater Anthem AVR, everything would work as normal with the SB-3000 but when when I play the Nova for 2 channel, a signal would not pass through my Anthem AVR so I'm not able to use my sub. Is there a way to be able to use my SB-3000 while playing the Nova? The Nova has a sub out and I thought of using a RCA splitter but hear that's not a good idea. Thoughts?

I found this on sound & vision but I'm not smart enough to figure it out - "incorporating a subwoofer for both movies and music in such a setup is more problematic. One recommendation would be to buy a high-quality surround receiver — one from Anthem’s MRX Series, for instance — that provides preamp outputs to connect a more powerful stereo amp for the main left/right channels and lets you store multiple bass management/EQ configurations. With such a setup, you could create one preset optimized for 5.1 movie playback and another tailored specifically for music listening using your front left/right speakers plus subwoofer."

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Just setup my MRX 1120 trying to figure out all the controls,I am used to Audyssey setup and not the Genesis setup just want to make sure I get my dual 15 Monolith subwoofers calibrated correctly and also is there a function that I can help put on auto so the surround sound mode would go into Auto based on the movie playing appreciate any help is I'm a newbie to non Audyssey set up
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Just setup my MRX 1120 trying to figure out all the controls,I am used to Audyssey setup and not the Genesis setup just want to make sure I get my dual 15 Monolith subwoofers calibrated correctly and also is there a function that I can help put on auto so the surround sound mode would go into Auto based on the movie playing appreciate any help is I'm a newbie to non Audyssey set up
For the auto surround hit setup on the remote then navigate to:

1) Input Setup
2) Toggle down to "Mode Preset for Stereo Source" and "Mode Preset for Multi-Ch Source".
3) Change both to "Dolby Surround" or "DTS Neural:X" (I prefer Dolby Surround).

You'll have to do this for all the inputs you have setup.

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Just setup my MRX 1120 trying to figure out all the controls,I am used to Audyssey setup and not the Genesis setup just want to make sure I get my dual 15 Monolith subwoofers calibrated correctly and also is there a function that I can help put on auto so the surround sound mode would go into Auto based on the movie playing appreciate any help is I'm a newbie to non Audyssey set up
For the auto surround hit setup on the remote then navigate to:

1) Input Setup
2) Toggle down to "Mode Preset for Stereo Source" and "Mode Preset for Multi-Ch Source".
3) Change both to "Dolby Surround" or "DTS Neural:X" (I prefer Dolby Surround).

You'll have to do this for all the inputs you have setup.
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Mbroadus, I've been looking to add a higher quality dac to my existing mrx 720 receiver. I have a 5.2 system and looked at many integrated amps and preamps. Im also using a Node 2. My only goal was to get Qobuz into a better dac. Lumin t2 or Cary dms600 etc.. but I did not want to lose room correction if I bypassed the 720. Same result with the Anthem str integrated or Anthem str preamplifier.
Are you using RC and you will just forego the RC if you go that route?

To me, the price of everything added up just for Qobuz was not 2orth it for the upgrade. I may ultimately forego RC to have more choices of preamps, integrateds.

I'm also wondering how the subs work with the ht bypass. I'd like to use them with 2 channel as well as SS.
Good luck
So, using an external DAC eliminates ARC room correction? In other words, you need to feed a digital signal in to get ARC or subwoofer? If yes, that will probably keep me from buying an external DAC. I guess a phono wired in with RCA's also doesn't.
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If you use ARC, then the unit is re-digitizing the analog output from the external DAC and you are relying on the Anthem's DAC for the end result -- effectively nullifying the external DAC in most ways.

With the phono input, like any analog input, you can choose whether to apply the ARC.


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Just setup my MRX 1120 trying to figure out all the controls,I am used to Audyssey setup and not the Genesis setup just want to make sure I get my dual 15 Monolith subwoofers calibrated correctly and also is there a function that I can help put on auto so the surround sound mode would go into Auto based on the movie playing appreciate any help is I'm a newbie to non Audyssey set up
For the auto surround hit setup on the remote then navigate to:

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2) Toggle down to "Mode Preset for Stereo Source" and "Mode Preset for Multi-Ch Source".
3) Change both to "Dolby Surround" or "DTS Neural:X" (I prefer Dolby Surround).

You'll have to do this for all the inputs you have setup.
Thank you
I was able to make the changes. A question regarding streaming anthem logic music, says 2.0 PCM
Is that correct for listening in 2 channel with subs stereo?
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I was able to make the changes. A question regarding streaming anthem logic music, says 2.0 PCM
Is that correct for listening in 2 channel with subs stereo?
2.0 PCM is what the Anthem is seeing from your source. Whether or not you are hearing 2.1 is a function of you profiles and the selected mode.

A few examples....if your source were sending 2.0 PCM, your speaker profile had a basic 5.1 setup, and you selected None for the mode, you would be hearing 2.1. If you choose Anthem Music, you would be hearing 4.1 (Anthem music does not use the center channel). Dolby Surround would be giving you full 5.1.
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I was able to make the changes. A question regarding streaming anthem logic music, says 2.0 PCM
Is that correct for listening in 2 channel with subs stereo?
2.0 PCM is whats coming into the Anthem. If you want to see whats coming into the Anthem combined and what you're hearing it as hit the mode button on the remote. The top is the incoming signal and the bottom is what's going out to your speakers based on your listening mode.

You can also change the listening mode on the fly by hitting the mode button then pressing the up/down buttons in the center of the remote.
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If you use ARC, then the unit is re-digitizing the analog output from the external DAC and you are relying on the Anthem's DAC for the end result -- effectively nullifying the external DAC in most ways.

With the phono input, like any analog input, you can choose whether to apply the ARC.
Thanks. another reason to get a pair of full range floor standers for the front left and rights if I ever want to venture down that road of an external DAC (and/or an external pre-amp with home theater bypass).
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Yeah, I guess if one doesn't care much about bass accuracy in the room, that works fine.


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Sure feels that way sometimes. Though after 30 years of chasing perfection, it can become more clear what matters and what doesn't.
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2.0 PCM is whats coming into the Anthem. If you want to see whats coming into the Anthem combined and what you're hearing it as hit the mode button on the remote. The top is the incoming signal and the bottom is what's going out to your speakers based on your listening mode.

You can also change the listening mode on the fly by hitting the mode button then pressing the up/down buttons in the center of the remote.

I setup a raspberry pi 4 with volumio (no dac) connected via hdmi out using DSD Direct playback.
My MRX720 shows 2.0 PCM/none during playback of 2 channel stereo sourced flac.
I assume that i am using the 720's dac and I have bit perfect playback? Or do I need to make some configuration changes?
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Yeah, I guess if one doesn't care much about bass accuracy in the room, that works fine.
Although I understand what you're getting at here and don't necessarily disagree in many cases, running full range speakers for 2 channel music does not mean you necessarily are sacrificing bass accuracy. Depends on the room, the speakers, and the low frequency content of the music you're playing. There are advantages and disadvantages to going full range vs. mains + sub(s) and both can work well depending on the above.

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