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post #10591 of 10618 Old 07-23-2019, 07:50 PM
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You obviously know there are a lot of variables at play in determining how much sound will be transmitted outside.

Instead of waiting for other people’s data, and having to translate it to your own system, maybe you can use the yamaha app to see what levels will bother your “sensitive” neighbor. Put on a Dolby track, maybe one known to have a high average dB level, go outside to the fence, and turn up the volume with the app until you can hear it. Then do the same thing with a DTS track.

Hopefully that’s helpful and I didn’t totally misinterpret what you were after.

BTW, noise complaints aren’t valid until after 10pm in most municipalities right?




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Yes your are right I stop around 10PM and will do what you have said I will use "Transformers Age of Extinction" as that movie has high Volume and deeper bass throughout the Movie.

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Folks, I can get a good deal on a gently used 1050.

Plan is to use this in a 5.1 setup, with SVS pinnacle towers, and prime center and satellites. TV is LG OLED.

From what I understand, this receiver is HDR capable with a firmware update. Are there any technologies or capabilities that this A1050 model lacks vs the more recent models of Yamaha receivers? For example, any key differences vs the 1070 or 1080?

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Folks, I can get a good deal on a gently used 1050.



Plan is to use this in a 5.1 setup, with SVS pinnacle towers, and prime center and satellites. TV is LG OLED.



From what I understand, this receiver is HDR capable with a firmware update. Are there any technologies or capabilities that this A1050 model lacks vs the more recent models of Yamaha receivers? For example, any key differences vs the 1070 or 1080?



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Yes. You can get HDR. No Dolby Vision, however. I believe there was a petition to try to get it awhile back, but it won’t happen.

You can get around that, at least on a 4K BD player, if it has separate video and audio outputs though.


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Yes. You can get HDR. No Dolby Vision, however. I believe there was a petition to try to get it awhile back, but it won’t happen.

You can get around that, at least on a 4K BD player, if it has separate video and audio outputs though.


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This is correct and how I have been using my 2050. I did upgrade though and my 3080 should be arriving today... Then a lightly used 2050 will be up for sale.

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Yes. You can get HDR. No Dolby Vision, however. I believe there was a petition to try to get it awhile back, but it won’t happen.

You can get around that, at least on a 4K BD player, if it has separate video and audio outputs though.


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Thanks very much. I'm not too familiar with Dolby Vision. Is it simply a souped up version of HDR? How does it compare to HDR 10?

Many thanks. I'm thinking I'll most likely pull the trigger on this.
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Thanks very much. I'm not too familiar with Dolby Vision. Is it simply a souped up version of HDR? How does it compare to HDR 10?



Many thanks. I'm thinking I'll most likely pull the trigger on this.

Some believe it’s an improvement over regular HDR. I haven’t watched enough content yet to make a conclusion since it’s only available on some of the discs that I’ve purchased.


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A few questions about a Yamaha RX-A1050 AVR to ask.

I am considering a purchase of a used Yamaha RX-A1050 AVR for use as second AVR and I have a few questions about this AVR. Basically, I just want this Yamaha AVR for the Dialogue Level function and the use of Dolby Pro-Logic IIx. I like Dolby Pro-Logic IIx for the use of some of my music.

1) What exactly with the Dialogue Level function work with as far as the Surround Format/Decoders are concerned? Will the Dialogue Level Adjustment function work with "straight" Dolby Atmos, Dolby Surround, DTS:X, DTS Neural Surround, and Dolby Pro-Logic IIx or does the use of the Yamaha Dialogue Level Adjustment function only work in conjunction with one of the Yamaha Cinema DSP functions? I would like the ability to use the Dialogue Level function with Dolby Atmos, Dolby Surround, and Dolby Pro-Logic IIx with NO Cinema DSP added on (at times).

2) Was the Cinema "Enhanced" DSP function ever added to this receiver as a later firmware update? I have seen the Cinema DSP "Enhanced" mode on later models of this AVR. I am just not sure if they added this new Cinema DSP (Enhanced) mode to the Yamaha RX-A1050.

BTW..I am fully aware that this Yamaha AVR does not handle Dolby Vision signals. I have NO problem with that. I have a Sony UHD 4k player that has separate video and audio outputs that can split the audio and video signals separately.

Thank you for any advice you can give me.
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I am considering a purchase of a used Yamaha RX-A1050 AVR for use as second AVR and I have a few questions about this AVR. Basically, I just want this Yamaha AVR for the Dialogue Level function and the use of Dolby Pro-Logic IIx. I like Dolby Pro-Logic IIx for the use of some of my music.

1) What exactly with the Dialogue Level function work with as far as the Surround Format/Decoders are concerned? Will the Dialogue Level Adjustment function work with "straight" Dolby Atmos, Dolby Surround, DTS:X, DTS Neural Surround, and Dolby Pro-Logic IIx or does the use of the Yamaha Dialogue Level Adjustment function only work in conjunction with one of the Yamaha Cinema DSP functions? I would like the ability to use the Dialogue Level function with Dolby Atmos, Dolby Surround, and Dolby Pro-Logic IIx with NO Cinema DSP added on (at times).

2) Was the Cinema "Enhanced" DSP function ever added to this receiver as a later firmware update? I have seen the Cinema DSP "Enhanced" mode on later models of this AVR. I am just not sure if they added this new Cinema DSP (Enhanced) mode to the Yamaha RX-A1050.

BTW..I am fully aware that this Yamaha AVR does not handle Dolby Vision signals. I have NO problem with that. I have a Sony UHD 4k player that has separate video and audio outputs that can split the audio and video signals separately.

Thank you for any advice you can give me.
I am not sure about the 1050... but the 2050 has Cinema DSP/3D.

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I am considering a purchase of a used Yamaha RX-A1050 AVR for use as second AVR and I have a few questions about this AVR. Basically, I just want this Yamaha AVR for the Dialogue Level function and the use of Dolby Pro-Logic IIx. I like Dolby Pro-Logic IIx for the use of some of my music.

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Thank you for any advice you can give me.

It's probably worth reading this article I wrote about my experience setting up a new 2050 and the firmware upgrade that provided DTS:X support. It may not answer all of your questions, but it will answer many of them. You might want to read through the comments as well (talks about differences between the 1050/2050/3050).

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I'm considering Elac speakers for my next purchase.

Would anyone be able to tell me if the Yamaha RX-A1050 would be able to handle 5.1 Elac speakers: UF5 UC5 L/C/R and Debut on-wall speakers for the rear? These are 4 ohm speakers aside from the on wall pair which is 6 ohms. I have dual SVS subs as well.

I've seen many people worried about the impedance of these speakers.
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Anyone use the Bluetooth on a 1050? My son is having some friends over tomorrow so I helped him connect his phone to the 1050 to test it out. But when a song is playing and he is going through his phone doing random things it makes the music drop constantly. Kinda like a cd skipping or something. I’m guessing there’s nothing that can be done but just wanted to ask here .

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Anyone use the Bluetooth on a 1050? My son is having some friends over tomorrow so I helped him connect his phone to the 1050 to test it out. But when a song is playing and he is going through his phone doing random things it makes the music drop constantly. Kinda like a cd skipping or something. I’m guessing there’s nothing that can be done but just wanted to ask here .

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I only use Bluetooth as an output (e.g. headphones/speakers). I suggest plugging the iPhone directly into the USB port; the AVR is compatible with Apple devices.

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Yeah, we ended up doing that but it just seems odd that either the phone or the BT chip in the AVR can't handle it.
ANyway, I also downloaded the Music Cast app after my son left and tested it out on my phone. That worked fine. I'd never heard of it but I think it uses wifi so there were no issues with it and my phone.
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Regarding the Yamaha 3050 using my 7: 2: 4 setup, on the weekend I updated the 3050 to the latest Firmware update and want to ask a simple Question do you still use the Same setting that we used 2 years ago like


For Movie Viewing.

1/ In your set up of the 3050 For ATMOS Movie Viewing only do you use ceiling speakers (forget what they call them, maybe Over heads) in your setup

2/ Anything that is DTS, DTX or DTS Neural X use 2db hotter than Atmos or Dolby True HD.
3/ Do most still prefer to use to upmixer using Neural X for DTS or Dolby True HD for Movies ONLY.


I ask this only because what a So called shop Expert told me different on how to set up ATMOS and DTS and or DTX and I trust you guys better than an expert salesman.


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Regarding the Yamaha 3050 using my 7: 2: 4 setup, on the weekend I updated the 3050 to the latest Firmware update and want to ask a simple Question do you still use the Same setting that we used 2 years ago like

Would be good know the firmware# (mine is in my sig)


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For Movie Viewing.

1/ In your set up of the 3050 For ATMOS Movie Viewing only do you use ceiling speakers (forget what they call them, maybe Over heads) in your setup

2/ Anything that is DTS, DTX or DTS Neural X use 2db hotter than Atmos or Dolby True HD.
3/ Do most still prefer to use to upmixer using Neural X for DTS or Dolby True HD for Movies ONLY.

1) I have calibrated for "overhead speakers" (not actually "in ceiling"), but use the two different location/memory settings for Dolby and DTS material (I program them into a couple of Scenes--one for Dolby and one for DTS).
2) I think DTS has a history of being "hotter" than Dolby.
3) I only use "Neural:X" for DTS source material (on disk); I use Yamaha DSP settings for most other Dolby material except for actual Atmos (on disk).
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1) I have calibrated for "overhead speakers" (not actually "in ceiling"), but use the two different location/memory settings for Dolby and DTS material (I program them into a couple of Scenes--one for Dolby and one for DTS).
2) I think DTS has a history of being "hotter" than Dolby.
3) I only use "Neural:X" for DTS source material (on disk); I use Yamaha DSP settings for most other Dolby material except for actual Atmos (on disk).

Sorry I have forgotten how to check for the Latest Version on our 3050, Can you pleassssss give me a hint where to find it.
When you say on your Option 3 that DTS has a history of being HOTTER than Dolby so buy this you mean in Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital or even Atmos you have to set you Volume higher to get the both equal "eg" Say DTS is -20db on your 3050,,,,,, for Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital or even Atmos you set it around (this is a example) -18 db . Is this what you mean.
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Sorry I have forgotten how to check for the Latest Version on our 3050, Can you please give me a hint where to find it.

Look in the Information/System menu (start with the "on screen" menu)


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When you say on your Option 3 that DTS has a history of being HOTTER than Dolby so buy this you mean in Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital or even Atmos you have to set you Volume higher to get the both equal "eg" Say DTS is -20db on your 3050,,,,,, for Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital or even Atmos you set it around (this is a example) -18 db . Is this what you mean.
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That's basically it. Not much you can do about it, but volume levels can vary from movie to movie anyway.
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That's basically it. Not much you can do about it, but volume levels can vary from movie to movie anyway.

Funny thing for the last 3 years I always made DTS or DTX to be stronger or higher in the Volume or better still they call it HOTTER than Dolby, Dolby true HD or Dolby ATMOS. So It looks like I had it Back to Front

The Trouble about me Stanton I get very confused sometime and do the opposite. When I get home later I will get the Version Of Firmware.


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1) I have calibrated for "overhead speakers" (not actually "in ceiling"), but use the two different location/memory settings for Dolby and DTS material (I program them into a couple of Scenes--one for Dolby and one for DTS).
2) I think DTS has a history of being "hotter" than Dolby.
3) I only use "Neural:X" for DTS source material (on disk); I use Yamaha DSP settings for most other Dolby material except for actual Atmos (on disk).

Mine is Version 2.65
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My 1050 is setup and has been for ~1 year. Unfortunately I rarely ever get to watch tv in that room. But my daughter does. She's telling me that when she normally watches Netflix she keeps the volume at 17 or so. Now she's having to turn it up to 40 or so to get the same level of volume. I powered everything off and back on and made sure things looked ok to me and they do. Just curious if someone knows some setting that could accidentally be changed that may cause this?
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My 1050 is setup and has been for ~1 year. Unfortunately I rarely ever get to watch tv in that room. But my daughter does. She's telling me that when she normally watches Netflix she keeps the volume at 17 or so. Now she's having to turn it up to 40 or so to get the same level of volume. I powered everything off and back on and made sure things looked ok to me and they do. Just curious if someone knows some setting that could accidentally be changed that may cause this?
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I'm sorry, but I'm confused by your statement regarding volume levels. The 1050 (at least all the ones I've owned) display volume levels in dB referenced to 0. A setting of 17 would be REALY loud (if it would even go that high). With all of my Yamaha AVRs (including my two 1050s) I usually have the volume levels between -24 (loudest) and -40 (quietest). What am I missing here?

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It is the volume that displays on the tv when in netflix. Not sure how that correlates to the front display volume. Either way, the point is she insists something has changed. I, sadly, don't get to use my HT setup very often so I am unsure.
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It is the volume that displays on the tv when in netflix. Not sure how that correlates to the front display volume. Either way, the point is she insists something has changed. I, sadly, don't get to use my HT setup very often so I am unsure.
Ok, so what is the volume setting on the 1050? Sounds like it may have been changed. I only use my TVs as monitors to display the image. My sources are all external and are fed through the receivers (e.g., I use a Roku to watch Netflix).


So my recommendation is that you check the volume setting of your 1050. I bet it was changed.

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Thanks. What do you mean by volume setting? It’ll be tomorrow before I can check. I only use the 1050 for volume.
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Thanks. What do you mean by volume setting? It’ll be tomorrow before I can check. I only use the 1050 for volume.
I was talking about the volume control on the 1050 (big knob on the right). The volume setting you are seeing sounds like what the TV may use to display volume. Yamaha AVRs use a scale referenced to 0 dB, and usually the levels will be negative (0 dB is quite loud so we normally have them set to a lower, negative value).


As I have no idea on what your system setup is I must admit I'm really only speculating here. If you could describe your setup in some detail (what devices and how they are interconnected) it would help.

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It's a very basic setup as compared to others here. The 1050 connects via hdmi to the tv. But the sound for the smart hub (or whatever samsung) calls it is optical from the tv to the 1050.
I'll look at the knob sometime today when I can but I just can't see how someone could have changed any setting to make this happen.
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It's a very basic setup as compared to others here. The 1050 connects via hdmi to the tv. But the sound for the smart hub (or whatever samsung) calls it is optical from the tv to the 1050.
I'll look at the knob sometime today when I can but I just can't see how someone could have changed any setting to make this happen.
Well, apparently you have two controls for level (volume), one in the smart hub and one in the 1050. When I do such configurations I would set the smart hub (or TV, which ever is controlling the volume that you see the display for on the TV) and then ONLY use the receiver's volume control to control the volume. And, btw, the volume of the 1050 is real easy to adjust, either by its remote or by turning the volume knob on the right-hand side of the 1050.

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I just checked. No matter if I use the harmony remote or the Samsung remote, the volume on the 1050 is adjusted. But when the Samsung remote is used there is an additional volume indicator overlayed on the screen. I don’t know how the volume indicator on the tv correlates to the volume on the front if the 1050. But they move together.
So, a comfortable level on the 1050 is -40. But that shows 40 on the tv. My daughter said she normally keeps it on 17. 17 on the tv is -64 on the 1050 and that’s way too low, keep in mind this is all on Netflix.

Not sure if any of this is helpful but that’s what is happening.
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