I have no "insider" information. Like JD, we ask the sources when most dealers do not bother. So we just ask the decision makers. After a while, the manufacture decision makers get to know you. For instance I asked about DTS:X at the booth and I posted accordingly. Any dealer could have asked and posted. Up to now, no one asked some rumors were swirling about DTS:X being vaporware. So I asked and I posted. No special powers here...
The reason why I PMed on couple different topics was to educate your inaccuracies that were off topic. People were getting upset as you continued to give your opinion so instead of debating on a thread, I took it in a PM (where any further posts belong
). Those conversations had to do with why some dealers recommend specific products, the differences between reliability of certain brands, buying power and programs of Best Buy, and other topics that you thought
you had a firm handle on. But you were guessing because you are not in this industry. I attempted to educate you of how it really works. To establish credibility, I let you know I'm not guessing in my point of view. Furthermore you asked me not to talk about an item. Hence, it is a PM (what does that stand for again?). But as usual, no one was going to change your mind. You worked off of your limited experience and I figured I wasted my bandwidth. Lesson learned.
I think the guys at Marantz know how to steer the ship and I am interested in how they do what they do. No different than Revel (I am visiting engineering in January) or DALI (been to Denmark 2x), Lexicon in the day as well as Krell, Simaudio, etc. I get to know who I am doing business with and how they sound so good. I visit and study what others read about and I love that about my job. Marantz is one such vendor. In short, I recommend what I own and what I LOVE. This results in sales. And if I might add, a lot of sales. I've been working with customers for 17 years. In the day, I was EAD's largest dealer, Lexicon's 3rd largest dealer, a top 10 B&K dealer, and a huge Krell HTS7.1 dealer, etc. So I recommend what I LOVE. Nothing more nothing less.
Let me be clear, the Yammy is a wonderful sounding product. It is definitely better than the Lexicon MC-12B ($10K) (albeit the low FR room EQ was slightly better on the Lex). The new Samsung Galaxy 6 is a lot better than the Motorola Flip phone that costed more too. Hence things are getting better for less and that is putting a lot of pressure on spendy brands. So it should go without saying that brands who have economy of scale and know how to design can trump the SQ of "brands costing 3x more".
It's just that the 8802 to my
ears is subjectively to the next level. Also, you missed other posts while distorting others. I've also said I would not want to be their competition while addressing the theater side of things. Yes for months and D&M has been kicking butt all across the country. If the Yammy out did the 8802A, I'd be a Yammy bigot and recommend accordingly. That doesn't mean the Yammy isn't a better fit for some. There are a plethora of DSP modes which delight some. Some people have a firm handle on standing waves and don't care about room EQ. No one should be spending extra if their speakers and room are not up to certain standards so the less costly product is the right decision. My nod might go to 7702mkii. Maybe not. I have not done the work yet.
No matter how many times I offer to send out my ABX box for people or invite people to try both product, people pass and go with their gut. So putting it bluntly, MOST customer have no interest in testing in the blind. My customers gut/decision many times goes with my subjective opinion and the sale follows. I point them to others who have also done the work and they feel comfortable enough and pull the trigger. Others go with another opinion. As with most products, there are always trade-offs. Some people do not like XT-32. Some people hate the concept of 48K down conversion. Some people are loyal to a brand that they had when there were young and others don't like the look of a curved front. So decisions come in all sizes. I error on SQ but that is my subjective opinion and overlook other short comings.
So you don't need to go off on some conspiracy theory. I am not a hypnotist. Assume what you want about me. Then what about the 6 others? Also, no need to start talking about legal action.
You have a gift of reading into things and coming up with inaccurate conclusions. In short, people who attended posted what they liked. Anybody who really cares should grab them both and bring back the one they don't like as much. Both are fine products. As I attempt to talk many people in buying the 7702mkii over the 8802A in several situations, the bulk of them follow their testosterone and buy the more expensive product no matter what I recommend for their specific situation. A surprising amount will pay a premium for "made in Japan" and an incremental SQ improvement. Others don't care. So you see, I don't need to lie or twist. It is NEVER a good idea to go over ones budget for a silly piece of electronics. People should always spend most of the budget on speakers and room treatments and not preamp processors.
So take a deep breath. I'm not critiquing anything you have ever heard. It's time to move on.