Originally Posted by zgeneral
The reason you're getting interference was included in my ,etc, in my original remark. I even included a definition for you. Going into each and every highly unlikely case where XLR cables was immaterial to the discussion. The need exists in very few cases.
I didn't ever pass judgement on you. I only pointed out in my original post that you're one of the few people who actually need XLR cables. The cases where they're needed, as many others have pointed out here, are very few.
I'll post a link to an AVR with pre-outs if you promise to leave the forum. Otherwise, the site has a search function and this company called google has this thing called a search engine.
The analogy had to do with people who have very unreliable cars who use that anecdote to try to apply their situation as an accurate representation of the overall market. It's basically the same as what you've done here when talking about XLR cables. That's very easy logic to follow.
As to your comment about the soap box, if you're unable to understand what I'm typing here, then please don't try to paraphrase it. To be accurate to what I said, XLR cables are only of any benefit to an extremely small number of people.
To post a link for the definition of "etc." was really not needed and of no use IMO. More of a diversion than anything else. What was needed was to post a definition of what are the causes of "interference" in an A/V system. A ground loop is not "interference" IMO as it is an issue brought on by ones home electrical system and not due to airborne "interference".
I'm not sure if you've read the most recent posts in this thread. If not you should take the time to do so. Since your last post two more members have posted that the use of XLR connections has helped eliminate or greatly reduce the unwanted noise in their systems. Once again shooting a hole in your misguided theory that XLR connections "are only of any benefit to an extremely small number of people".
Please how immature can one be to post "I'll post a link to an AVR with pre-outs if you promise to leave the forum". Really? If I leave the forum how will I know if you actually posted a link to said AVR with preouts
? I did a quick Google search and did not find one "Audio Video Receiver" with both speaker output terminals and balanced preouts for 5/7.1 channels.
The Edsel analogy still doesn't hold any water in the least. My point that the use of XLR connections to minimize noise in ones system is very valid and far more common than you seem to think.
Soap box most definitely. By that I mean you can't seem to step away from this issue. The use of XLR connections was discussed in this thread 4-5 months ago by several members here including myself. There was a difference of opinion with a few members posting their thoughts either way then the discussion was over. What you are unable to do is let it go as I most certainly would but the inaccuracies you've posted need to be pointed out.
Once again you post that "XLR cables are only of any benefit to an extremely small number of people" which is totally wrong IMO. All you need to do is read through this thread and you will clearly see that the benefit is far greater than "an extremely small number of people".
So how about posting a link to that AVR with 5/7.1 XLR preouts and what you consider "an extremely small number of people"? It would be an easy way to show I'm wrong and to be quite honest it'd be cool to see an AVR with 5/7.1 XLR preouts
. Oh by the way whether you post any links to back up your claims or not I'm not going anywhere
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