Originally Posted by gene4ht
Fortunately, budget is not an issue. I've auditioned a few of JTR's subs in my home with good results. I'll eventually audition the Noesis line in time. Fortunately, JTR is not far from me and Jeff has attended several GTG's in my area.
Not disagreeing with your experience but relative to your cinema Atmos experiences, there is something obviously improperly set up in the environments you've attended. I too have heard poor Atmos setups in theaters and dealers alike. In contrast, I've experienced proper Atmos set ups in private home theaters (mine included) and it's an amazing experience..ambient surround effects as well as concert music. There is no question a good 5.1 set up is fantastic but a properly set up Atmos environment takes it to an entirely new and wonderful immersive level of experience! I'm sure you will agree when you incorporate and experience this same level of immersion in the "Concrete Bunker."
I think you misunderstood what I am saying
I am NOT saying Atmos isn't better than 5.1
I AM saying Atmos with 'bad' speakers can't beat a simple 5.1 with great speakers.
Thus, why I compared the local Atmos cinemas with IMAX... the 5.1 speakers the IMAX has is far superior to the dozens of inferior speakers in any of those Atmos cinemas I have been in...
As for my own home cinema, it is a couple step up from even the IMAX...
Here's what I am saying again..
If someone has to work with a certain budget, then I would certainly suggest upgrading the speakers form Klipsch rather than upgrade to Atmos...
Step 1: put your money into the speakers
Step 2: Then only put your money into the receivers
But if money is no object, then yeah, do both steps...
I see a lot of people spending money upgrading their receivers for a few thousand dollars and then use Klipsch... to me, that is not the best use of money... put those few thousand into PSA for instance, keep your old receiver, and you'll get far more bang for your buck, sound wise!
So, we are actually in agreement.