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Iam discourage from ONKYO ,normaly ONKYO show new model to replace model 1100 and 3100 and 5100 ,all other company ,marantz ,denon,now Yamaha,for shur ONKYO loose the place for the top company audio.


to 2019 3 YEARS not new model ,I like ONKYO but now I have no choice ,I buy marantz sr 8012 last year ,wheating for new model from ONKYO to 2019 but now I need 13 or 15 chanels .I have to no choice to take denon 8500,or marantz 8805 or new émotiva RMC-1 and RMC-2 and other new model to receiver to.


I wait to january 2019.

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Iam discourage from ONKYO ,normaly ONKYO show new model to replace model 1100 and 3100 and 5100 ,all other company ,marantz ,denon,now Yamaha,for shur ONKYO loose the place for the top company audio.


to 2019 3 YEARS not new model ,I like ONKYO but now I have no choice ,I buy marantz sr 8012 last year ,wheating for new model from ONKYO to 2019 but now I need 13 or 15 chanels .I have to no choice to take denon 8500,or marantz 8805 or new émotiva RMC-1 and RMC-2 and other new model to receiver to.


I wait to january 2019.

It's unfortunate...but I am in agreement. With influences from Pioneer and Gibson, there is no doubt the classic Onkyo has morphed. The next generation of 1100/3100 will reveal Onkyo's direction in terms of technology and value...leadership or me too. If the latter, I will sadly and likely look elsewhere as well.

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The activity in this thread seems to be waning....presumably and hopefully because everyone is happy and enjoying their 1100/3100 without issue. In any case, I thought I would share my current thoughts regarding the successor(s) to these flagship models. We've seen the RZ-xx30 announcement this past spring (Apr/May). With Onkyo's normal fall (Aug/Sep) announcements having come and gone, it appears we won't see additional product announcements until spring 2019. Historically, Onkyo does not announce new product at CES...maybe January 2019 will be an exception. In any case, this being the trend, it appears Onkyo's flagship replacement cycle will at least be three years. I can see/understand that the Pioneer integration and Gibson's financial scenario have impacted Onkyo's developmental direction/philosophy...not to mention management/executive/leadership changes. The soup has been mixed and stirred and sufficient time has elapsed to have regrouped enough to serve the meal. I am hopeful that this extended cycle was being utilized to deliver a competitive flagship...restoring the flagship to classic Onkyo prominence, performance, features, and value. Additional thoughts certainly welcomed!

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I'm encountering a small issue with my 1100. The amps stay on after I turn the unit off (the front display has the wifi and EQ logos illuminated when the unit is off). When I shut off the units, it does not yield the click associated with the amps turning off nor do the amps click on when turning the unit on.

I've shut off all the standby features and the wifi and I even did a factory reset but no difference. Help?

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I'm encountering a small issue with my 1100. The amps stay on after I turn the unit off (the front display has the wifi and EQ logos illuminated when the unit is off). When I shut off the units, it does not yield the click associated with the amps turning off nor do the amps click on when turning the unit on.

I've shut off all the standby features and the wifi and I even did a factory reset but no difference. Help?
Sounds like the "logic" and/or mechanical relays (clicking) responsible for powering the amps and display icon circuits are not functioning properly. Since the RZ series have a three year warranty, the best course of action would be to contact Onkyo support to determine how and where to service your 1100. I'm sure Onkyo will resolve/repair your AVR to your satisfaction.

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Sounds like the "logic" and/or mechanical relays (clicking) responsible for powering the amps and display icon circuits are not functioning properly. Since the RZ series have a three year warranty, the best course of action would be to contact Onkyo support to determine how and where to service your 1100. I'm sure Onkyo will resolve/repair your AVR to your satisfaction.
Thanks for the reply. This STINKS, I haven’t owned the 1100 for even a full 12 months and it’s already malfunctioning.

Mini rant: I had the NR3008 and it had the HDMI board overheating issue. Onkyo fixed it for free. Then the amps crapped out and Onkyo replaced it with the 1100 for $700 out of my pocket. I’m certain that you are right and that Onkyo will take care of it but I think I’m done with them. Great customer service isn’t necessary if they made relatable products which they don’t.

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Power Amp?

Hi all...was able to purchase a used RZ1100 and intend to use it in a 5.1.2 setup will all Klipsch speakers including Forte III as fronts...the rest are in wall. Any opinions as to whether or not the 1100 will have the necessary power to drive a setup like this, or should I be considering an external power amp for the front L/R? The Klipsch are very efficient. Thanks for any input.
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Hi all...was able to purchase a used RZ1100 and intend to use it in a 5.1.2 setup will all Klipsch speakers including Forte III as fronts...the rest are in wall. Any opinions as to whether or not the 1100 will have the necessary power to drive a setup like this, or should I be considering an external power amp for the front L/R? The Klipsch are very efficient. Thanks for any input.
As you indicated, the Klipsch are among the most efficient speakers available and the RZ1100 should have no problem driving your 5.1.2 configuration. I’m currently driving a 7.2.4 all Klipsch configuration with a RZ920 without issue. Bottom line, you can always add external amplification later if you have an extremely large room, want to play cleanly at reference, or just feel the need! Enjoy!

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As you indicated, the Klipsch are among the most efficient speakers available and the RZ1100 should have no problem driving your 5.1.2 configuration. I’m currently driving a 7.2.4 all Klipsch configuration with a RZ920 without issue. Bottom line, you can always add external amplification later if you have an extremely large room, want to play cleanly at reference, or just feel the need! Enjoy!
thanks Gene...as you probably remember, I have a 3100 in the upstairs space and have added a Sunfire 7201 for all but the Atmos channels...the 1100 should arrive tomorrow and I'll give it a try without an external amp...it's replacing a 3030, which will go into the basement...
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thanks Gene...as you probably remember, I have a 3100 in the upstairs space and have added a Sunfire 7201 for all but the Atmos channels...the 1100 should arrive tomorrow and I'll give it a try without an external amp...it's replacing a 3030, which will go into the basement...
Ahh...yes...looking forward to hearing your findings and impressions!

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As you indicated, the Klipsch are among the most efficient speakers available and the RZ1100 should have no problem driving your 5.1.2 configuration. I’m currently driving a 7.2.4 all Klipsch configuration with a RZ920 without issue. Bottom line, you can always add external amplification later if you have an extremely large room, want to play cleanly at reference, or just feel the need! Enjoy!
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Hi all...was able to purchase a used RZ1100 and intend to use it in a 5.1.2 setup will all Klipsch speakers including Forte III as fronts...the rest are in wall. Any opinions as to whether or not the 1100 will have the necessary power to drive a setup like this, or should I be considering an external power amp for the front L/R? The Klipsch are very efficient. Thanks for any input.
If you guys are looking to upgrade your speakers from Klipsch, try PowerSoundAudio... those speakers will blow the Klipsch out of the water... and they are quite reasonable in price... if you want cheaper and still yet better, try DIYSoundGroup... you need to build these yourself but they'll blow any Klipsch out of the water at a fraction of the price...

You can upgrade your Onkyo to even a million dollar amp (if there are any) and you won't get that kind of sound upgrade...
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If you guys are looking to upgrade your speakers from Klipsch, try PowerSoundAudio... those speakers will blow the Klipsch out of the water... and they are quite reasonable in price... if you want cheaper and still yet better, try DIYSoundGroup... you need to build these yourself but they'll blow any Klipsch out of the water at a fraction of the price...

You can upgrade your Onkyo to even a million dollar amp (if there are any) and you won't get that kind of sound upgrade...
I've had the RF-7 II's for awhile now, enjoy them immensely, and have no reason or desire to upgrade at this point. Enthusiasts are either in or out of the Klipsch camp...no middle ground...I'm in the former camp. Now having said this, I've known Tom V for almost twenty years now...even before his tenure with SVS and have purchased from his subwoofer product line. When he departed SVS and later started PSA, I had the opportunity to audition PSA's and agree that they are a very competitive product line in terms of performance and value. I'm certain, there will be a time when I transition to PSA's...just not at this time...but certainly during the next iteration of my HT when I move to an AT screen. Also, in my earlier days and because I enjoy woodworking, I definitely would go the DIY route...but less likely at this point. In any case, thanks for bringing up these very viable options. BTW, although a bit pricier, JTR's are also well regarded.

Getting back on topic, I'm sure you're also looking forward to a new flagship offering from Onkyo...it's been three years now!

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I've had the RF-7 II's for awhile now, enjoy them immensely, and have no reason or desire to upgrade at this point. Enthusiasts are either in or out of the Klipsch camp...no middle ground...I'm in the former camp. Now having said this, I've known Tom V for almost twenty years now...even before his tenure with SVS and have purchased from his subwoofer product line. When he departed SVS and later started PSA, I had the opportunity to audition PSA's and agree that they are a very competitive product line in terms of performance and value. I'm certain, there will be a time when I transition to PSA's...just not at this time...but certainly during the next iteration of my HT when I move to an AT screen. Also, in my earlier days and because I enjoy woodworking, I definitely would go the DIY route...but less likely at this point. In any case, thanks for bringing up these very viable options. BTW, although a bit pricier, JTR's are also well regarded.

Getting back on topic, I'm sure you're also looking forward to a new flagship offering from Onkyo...it's been three years now!
Yes, you know me... I have actually been waiting for 3 years... haha...

As for my priorities:

1st: Speakers
2nd: This is a far, far 2nd, receivers...

Between the 2, investing in good speakers will give you 99% of the sound quality whereas the receivers maybe add to 1%

I already have the JTRs so I am set with speakers and I also have AT screen, Sony 4K projector... The current receiver I am using is at least 5 or 6 years old (Onkyo). Sound just as fantastic... I have no need for all the gimmicks for now... so, will wait for the next Onkyo...
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Yes, you know me... I have actually been waiting for 3 years... haha...

As for my priorities:

1st: Speakers
2nd: This is a far, far 2nd, receivers...

Between the 2, investing in good speakers will give you 99% of the sound quality whereas the receivers maybe add to 1%

I already have the JTRs so I am set with speakers and I also have AT screen, Sony 4K projector... The current receiver I am using is at least 5 or 6 years old (Onkyo). Sound just as fantastic... I have no need for all the gimmicks for now... so, will wait for the next Onkyo...
LOL! I couldn't wait the entire three years for a good and reasonably priced 11 channel AVR so the 920 is my temporary solution. So now I too am awaiting Onkyo's new flagship...looking and hoping for 13 or 15 channel unit that offers both performance and value. The Denon 8500 does not appeal to me at all as $1000 for two additional channels makes no sense and wides are not a priority for me. However, I'm jealous of your JTR's! As I mentioned, I'll eventually transition to them or the PSA's when I make some theater modifications to accommodate an AT screen.

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LOL! I couldn't wait the entire three years for a good and reasonably priced 11 channel AVR so the 920 is my temporary solution. So now I too am awaiting Onkyo's new flagship...looking and hoping for 13 or 15 channel unit that offers both performance and value. The Denon 8500 does not appeal to me at all as $1000 for two additional channels makes no sense and wides are not a priority for me. However, I'm jealous of your JTR's! As I mentioned, I'll eventually transition to them or the PSA's when I make some theater modifications to accommodate an AT screen.
After the JTR I have no more desire to upgrade, speaker wise... here's what I suggest, if cost is an issue, go with PSA... if not, go straight to JTR... and if price is an issue and you still want the best, go with DIYSoundGroup... they have really high quality stuff there but the problem is you'll have to build them yourself (which I am not good at).

Also, bear in mind, a simple 5.1 would sound a heck of a lot better than 13 channels if your 5 speakers are superior to the 13 speakers... I have been to so many Atmos cinema (with dozens of speakers) but they sound so bad compared to the 5.1 in IMAX cinemas...
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After the JTR I have no more desire to upgrade, speaker wise... here's what I suggest, if cost is an issue, go with PSA... if not, go straight to JTR... and if price is an issue and you still want the best, go with DIYSoundGroup... they have really high quality stuff there but the problem is you'll have to build them yourself (which I am not good at).

Also, bear in mind, a simple 5.1 would sound a heck of a lot better than 13 channels if your 5 speakers are superior to the 13 speakers... I have been to so many Atmos cinema (with dozens of speakers) but they sound so bad compared to the 5.1 in IMAX cinemas...
Fortunately, budget is not an issue. I've auditioned a few of JTR's subs in my home with good results. I'll eventually audition the Noesis line in time. Fortunately, JTR is not far from me and Jeff has attended several GTG's in my area.

Not disagreeing with your experience but relative to your cinema Atmos experiences, there is something obviously improperly set up in the environments you've attended. I too have heard poor Atmos setups in theaters and dealers alike. In contrast, I've experienced proper Atmos set ups in private home theaters (mine included) and it's an amazing experience..ambient surround effects as well as concert music. There is no question a good 5.1 set up is fantastic but a properly set up Atmos environment takes it to an entirely new and wonderful immersive level of experience! I'm sure you will agree when you incorporate and experience this same level of immersion in the "Concrete Bunker."

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Fortunately, budget is not an issue. I've auditioned a few of JTR's subs in my home with good results. I'll eventually audition the Noesis line in time. Fortunately, JTR is not far from me and Jeff has attended several GTG's in my area.

Not disagreeing with your experience but relative to your cinema Atmos experiences, there is something obviously improperly set up in the environments you've attended. I too have heard poor Atmos setups in theaters and dealers alike. In contrast, I've experienced proper Atmos set ups in private home theaters (mine included) and it's an amazing experience..ambient surround effects as well as concert music. There is no question a good 5.1 set up is fantastic but a properly set up Atmos environment takes it to an entirely new and wonderful immersive level of experience! I'm sure you will agree when you incorporate and experience this same level of immersion in the "Concrete Bunker."
I think you misunderstood what I am saying

I am NOT saying Atmos isn't better than 5.1
I AM saying Atmos with 'bad' speakers can't beat a simple 5.1 with great speakers.

Thus, why I compared the local Atmos cinemas with IMAX... the 5.1 speakers the IMAX has is far superior to the dozens of inferior speakers in any of those Atmos cinemas I have been in...

As for my own home cinema, it is a couple step up from even the IMAX...

Here's what I am saying again..

If someone has to work with a certain budget, then I would certainly suggest upgrading the speakers form Klipsch rather than upgrade to Atmos...

Step 1: put your money into the speakers
Step 2: Then only put your money into the receivers

But if money is no object, then yeah, do both steps...

I see a lot of people spending money upgrading their receivers for a few thousand dollars and then use Klipsch... to me, that is not the best use of money... put those few thousand into PSA for instance, keep your old receiver, and you'll get far more bang for your buck, sound wise!

So, we are actually in agreement.
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I think you misunderstood what I am saying

I am NOT saying Atmos isn't better than 5.1
I AM saying Atmos with 'bad' speakers can't beat a simple 5.1 with great speakers.

Thus, why I compared the local Atmos cinemas with IMAX... the 5.1 speakers the IMAX has is far superior to the dozens of inferior speakers in any of those Atmos cinemas I have been in...

As for my own home cinema, it is a couple step up from even the IMAX...

Here's what I am saying again..

If someone has to work with a certain budget, then I would certainly suggest upgrading the speakers form Klipsch rather than upgrade to Atmos...

Step 1: put your money into the speakers
Step 2: Then only put your money into the receivers

But if money is no object, then yeah, do both steps...

I see a lot of people spending money upgrading their receivers for a few thousand dollars and then use Klipsch... to me, that is not the best use of money... put those few thousand into PSA for instance, keep your old receiver, and you'll get far more bang for your buck, sound wise!

So, we are actually in agreement.
Yes, I did misunderstand the intent of your original comment...was late in the day for me...my apologies! I do, however, disagree with upgrading Klipsch speakers before upgrading to Atmos. I understand that Klipsch is a polarizing brand...enthusiasts either like or dislike its sound signature...and sound quality is a purely subjective matter. Those like myself who like the Klipsch sound would certainly advocate upgrading to Atmos w/o having to upgrade speakers first. Also, the electronics involved need not be expensive...a mid level Atmos AVR is well under $1000 U.S. and far less if one shops prudently.

This being said, you're correct, we are in overall agreement pertaining to the importance of speakers relative to electronics. General consensus and wisdom have always recommended spending the greatest portion of one's budget on speakers with the balance on electronics and everything else. I have personally assigned/established a slightly different ratio in terms of importance and expenditure...70%-75% on speakers and 25% -30% on electronics. For me, not everything is derived objectively, but also influenced by the subjective side of me.

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Yes, I did misunderstand the intent of your original comment...was late in the day for me...my apologies! I do, however, disagree with upgrading Klipsch speakers before upgrading to Atmos. I understand that Klipsch is a polarizing brand...enthusiasts either like or dislike its sound signature...and sound quality is a purely subjective matter. Those like myself who like the Klipsch sound would certainly advocate upgrading to Atmos w/o having to upgrade speakers first. Also, the electronics involved need not be expensive...a mid level Atmos AVR is well under $1000 U.S. and far less if one shops prudently.

This being said, you're correct, we are in overall agreement pertaining to the importance of speakers relative to electronics. General consensus and wisdom have always recommended spending the greatest portion of one's budget on speakers with the balance on electronics and everything else. I have personally assigned/established a slightly different ratio in terms of importance and expenditure...70%-75% on speakers and 25% -30% on electronics. For me, not everything is derived objectively, but also influenced by the subjective side of me.
Agreed. As with everything, sound is subjective... and all the more power to you if you like your Klipsch. You don't have to spend more money on speakers.

Personally, going from Klipsch to either the PSAs or JTRs are literally night and day difference.

As for electronics, I'll wait for the next Onkyo and see if it fits all my needs for my next upgrade... I have kept my receiver for 5 or 6 years now.
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I have just been the lucky witness to a 1100 demo.....YIKES!...amazing clarity and power. Stereo was pretty darn good!...scenes from Master and Commander were bleedin` awesome! A few dtsx/atmos scenes were torally awesome too. I never thought digi-amps could cut the mustard...., but, I was wrong.

I am definitely still an `Onkyo-man`!.............

Goshhhhhhhh.....if the unit wasnt 2 yeas old...I would purchase it! I am scared I will miss out on some tiny gadget/mode, that I will need. I am going totally nuts waiting for Onk` to get their act together!!
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I have just been the lucky witness to a 1100 demo.....YIKES!...amazing clarity and power. Stereo was pretty darn good!...scenes from Master and Commander were bleedin` awesome! A few dtsx/atmos scenes were torally awesome too. I never thought digi-amps could cut the mustard...., but, I was wrong.

I am definitely still an `Onkyo-man`!.............

Goshhhhhhhh.....if the unit wasnt 2 yeas old...I would purchase it! I am scared I will miss out on some tiny gadget/mode, that I will need. I am going totally nuts waiting for Onk` to get their act together!!

Yep...in the past 2-3 years, some contributors in this thread have jumped ship and moved on to Anthem, D+M, Pioneer, etc. There are a few of us, however, still waiting to see if Onkyo can return with its classic magic. In the meantime, I was also a bit impatient and bought the 920 (I understand it's not available worldwide) as an interim solution. On paper, the 920 is 99% of the 1100/3100 in terms of capability but at 1/3 to 1/2 the price in the U.S...street price. As I've auditioned all three, in actual performance, I can honestly say the 920 is also 99% of the 1100/3100...it would be extremely difficult to tell the difference in a blind test. It remains to be seen, but I'm hopeful that Onkyo's next flagship will leapfrog the competition.

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Cool!....but, still....no rumours at all??......??++?

The 920 is awesome too.....not available here in euro-land though.........if the price on the 1100 becomes `bearable`...I will buy that and hope for a new-gen Onk in 2019.......
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Cool!....but, still....no rumours at all??......??++?

The 920 is awesome too.....not available here in euro-land though.........if the price on the 1100 becomes `bearable`...I will buy that and hope for a new-gen Onk in 2019.......

Unfortunately...no! If history repeats, information and rumors typically come out of Europe...not North America. I'm not really expecting anything from CES so more likely the Apr/May timeframe? I'm counting on @zimmo as he typically has his ear to the ground...at least in the French publications and media!

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I think to to first quater 2019 normaly onkyo show new model ,its not this quater,something wrong for shur ,onkyo no have choice ,now to long time before comming


whit new model ,all compétition have new top model,marantz ,denon,Yamaha.


onkyo comming whit new receiver whit 15 chanels before may 2019 I look for shur .


I check in europe what happen whit onkyo and I tell you when i receive information.
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I think to to first quater 2019 normaly onkyo show new model ,its not this quater,something wrong for shur ,onkyo no have choice ,now to long time before comming


whit new model ,all compétition have new top model,marantz ,denon,Yamaha.


onkyo comming whit new receiver whit 15 chanels before may 2019 I look for shur .


I check in europe what happen whit onkyo and I tell you when i receive information.
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Cool!....but, still....no rumours at all??......??++?

The 920 is awesome too.....not available here in euro-land though.........if the price on the 1100 becomes `bearable`...I will buy that and hope for a new-gen Onk in 2019.......
I don't know if you are aware of the Sony SXRD panel degradation issue... you can search for it here on avs.. there's a thread dedicated to it.. this affects the 1100 as well... their newer models have some safeguards and prob doesn't get affected as much such as their laser unit, the 760es / 885 es...

If you like the 1100, the 760 would actually be a better bet... it's got newer electronics and runs on laser engine so you actually get better picture quality.. the price should be more or less the same... or a tad bit cheaper than the 1100...

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Huh!•...?.......receivers......not projectors.......hehe
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Oops, my bad.. my mind's on projector now as I am looking for a new one to replace my 500es which i sold already
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What is everyones opinion on AccuEQ compared to other auto calibrating tools? My previous receiver was a Pioneer sc-37 which I loved, but sadly a power surged fried it. I've had the Rz1100 now for almost 2 years now and haven't had many complaints. Been running a 5.1.4 setup with my front left and right on monoblocks. I wish there were a way to "check/uncheck" selections when cycling through all the different theater/music settings, as most people only really use like 5. Minor nitpicks though
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What is everyones opinion on AccuEQ compared to other auto calibrating tools? My previous receiver was a Pioneer sc-37 which I loved, but sadly a power surged fried it. I've had the Rz1100 now for almost 2 years now and haven't had many complaints. Been running a 5.1.4 setup with my front left and right on monoblocks. I wish there were a way to "check/uncheck" selections when cycling through all the different theater/music settings, as most people only really use like 5. Minor nitpicks though
Room correction effectiveness is highly dependent on room attributes/acoustics, speaker types/characteristics, and personal tastes/preferences. I personally turn RC off in my HT but prefer AccuEQ over XT32 when in use. Hopefully, @Molon_Labe will chime in here as he has an 1100...has a great deal of experience with many more RC systems...and can provide a more balanced perspective.
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