Originally Posted by OrdinaryClown
As u all of can tell im having a tuff Times setting up My subbs. Im sure i dont whant dyn eq anymore becouse what it does to My center channel. But now im having a Hard time figure out what subwoofer gain/level i like.
Audyssey sets Them to -8.5 and -7.0 and it Kinda nice to the ears, but somethimes i woud Love some more punch, but its Hard to find the balans between to much (Hard for the ears) and the right gain.
How do you guys choose the right gain/level
I set the sub (adding dB to Audyssey's setting) by ear
using a wide range music disk, then listen at that sub level for a week or two using several different music disks, and several movies (Blu-ray). If the deep bass sounds good after this trial period, I leave it there. If not, I turn it up or down slightly.
Most people would be well advised to avoid setting the AVR sub trim any higher than -5, and turning up the gain control on the sub itself, if necessary. In his guide, GUIDE TO SUBWOOFER CALIBRATION AND BASS PREFERENCES,
Mike Thomas gives comprehensive instructions on how to manipulate elements of the initial Audyssey set up to get Audyssey to set the trim in the AVR to - 11.5 as the perfect "reference' balance, after which you can turn up the AVR trim to as high as -5, getting up to 6.5 dB net boost for your "preference" setting without overloading the line driver in your AVR. If your need more boost, turn up the gain on the sub itself.
"Punch," IMO, often occurs above the usual subwoofer crossover of 80 Hz. Since you are not using DEQ, you might want to turn up the bass tone control, which becomes available if DEQ is off. It affects the left and right front only, so it won't stress your center. It has no effect on the sub.
During your trial set-ups, listen carefully for distortion. You really shouldn't hear any in music, and hardly any, if any, in movie effects, unless the filmmakers deliberately put some on the effects track (I haven't run into a movie like that, but you never can tell what they'll do). Music shouldn't be hard on your ears, and neither should movies, except for outlandish ones like Pacific Rim
If you are getting distortion or ear fatigue, is it possible your subs aren't heavy duty enough? What make and model are they?
I'm reluctant to admit that I'm using about 9 dB boost in my sub channel. Don't try this at home. I don't use DEQ. My front left & right channels (set for "small") are bass boosted as well, getting up to about +8 dB at 150 Hz, and to +9 dB at 100 Hz, then the crossover to the sub is at 80 Hz, so REW measures pretty much +9 dB from 100 Hz on down.