Originally Posted by IMWhizzle
Okay, since I installed all my new speakers and repositioned them because of my wife, the manual calibration did not have a positive effect on the subwoofer. The subwoofer only has good bass while standing, so I guess there are not cancellations in my room. In the weekend I will try to calibrate the system again with the XT32. From there on I will tweak it manually again. The wife thinks that the new speakers are too deep so I was forced to move the couch to the back of the room, which messed the sound up. Does anyone have tips for me with the sub placement or other tips before I calibrate? Here is a picture of my room…
The room looks bare but I don't think the bareness is going to be a significant issue for room modes since most carpets and curtains aren't significant absorbers at low frequencies. If the cushions in the sofa are largely foam (looks like they may be) then they may actually provide a bit of bass absorption which could help with bass modes. I know replacing a sofa with a sprung suspension with one with thick foam cushions made a difference to bass response in my room. The bare surfaces, especially the timber floor, are likely to be more of a problem for high frequency reflections.
What is a possible issue for me is the placement of the surround speakers which are very close to the sofa and the bass and midrange drivers of those speakers are pointed directly at the sofa. That may cause some problems. I regularly get a phase error during setup from one of my speakers during setup and I think that's due to proximity to the end of my sofa. If you get phase error messages check your wiring and if they are wired correctly just hit the "Ignore" button. I'd prefer if the surrounds weren't that close and pointing at the sofa but it's hard to see an alternative. It looks like the setup is in a living room and that means compromises are usually necessary, especially when there are other people to consider, so see how it goes. If you can move the surrounds a little further from the sofa that may help.
I'd like to see a bit more rug or carpeting closer to the front speakers to assist with damping the first floor reflection from he front speakers and there's the big glass window area to affect high frequency reflection from the right side wall. Do you normally have the blind up or down when using the system. If you have it up normally, see what you think after running setup and if you're not happy try repeating setup with the blind down, then raise the blind for listening and see how that works.
I think the coffee table may be problematic. It's high with staggered heights, looks like the surfaces are reflective, and you've got china and glass objects on it which are also reflective at high frequencies. Removing the china and glass objects may help, and covering the table with a blanket during the setup process may also help. You may even find covering the table helps during serious listening sessions.
You said "The subwoofer only has good bass while standing, so I guess there are not cancellations in my room" but I think the fact that the bass is only good while standing does indicate an issue but it's hard to be certain about what it is. I'd experiment with temporarily removing the coffee table and using a chair to test seating positions immediately in front of your current seating position to see if you can get better bass by moving the sofa a little bit further. Use a chair to test out different distances rather than moving the sofa, and also test areas behind the sofa while kneeling with your head at your normal seated head height. You may be able to get better bass with a slightly different listening distance. You can also try toeing the sub in to point at the listening position which may have an effect on bass performance or even moving the sub a bit closer to the corner. I'd see if you can do something about getting better bass without Audyssey first before running setup because that will help Audyssey to get a better result.
People tend to make comments about rooms and furnishings but furnishings are a personal matter and living rooms aren't dedicated audio/home theatre spaces, especially if there are other people in the house and the room has to serve several purposes. I'd rather have a room that I like spending time in, even with some acoustic problems, than a room that was acoustically better but that I didn't enjoy being in. Mood definitely helps the listening experience and I don't think it should be ignored so in my experience living rooms and compromises go together. If there are changes to the room you can make which help with the sound, then make them but if making changes causes problems with others in the house then you're better off living with what you've got and keeping others happy rather than having the AV setup becoming a major point of contention and causing problems. Do what you can that is acceptable to others and then tweak the Audyssey results if you need to do so to get a better result. You've got options like using Audyssey Flat or Reference, adjusting the sub trims, leaving DEQ off and using tone controls, and doing things like opening or closing the blind and opening a window with or without the blind down when that's acceptable given the weather. You can get good results in a room with issues but you have to work a little harder to get them. You might ignore small changes that could help if you can make a big one or two but if you can't make the big ones then making as many small changes as possible becomes more important because a number of small improvements can add up to a sizeable improvement in the end.