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What volume scale is most everyone using on the X3300W? Relative or Absolute. I would assume Relative, as it would us "0" as the reference volume point, correct?
Most owners with a wife/children also accessing the setup likely prefer the "Absolute" scale (1-99) as it just makes more sense to them; however, if you are the primary user, you are more likely to use the "Relative" scale.
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Just picked up the X4300H and have a question about the PRE OUT connectors in the picture below. I am setting up a 7.2.4 system for the first time and looking to buy Monolith 7x200 to use with it. Based on the PRE OUT diagram I believe I can use this to connect my LCR, surrounds and rear sounds to the amp and RCA that to the X4300H. Then use the X4300H to power the (4) Atmos speakers? Is this correct and available in the settings?

Also this being a 2016 X4300H what issues am I going to run into video wise if I plan on using a UHD60 4k projector or LG OLED tv to send signal too?
1. You need only identify the pre-outs being used to expand the AVR from 9CH --> 11CH which for your use case are the FRONT L/R.

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Most owners with a wife/children also accessing the setup likely prefer the "Absolute" scale (1-99) as it just makes more sense to them; however, if you are the primary user, you are more likely to use the "Relative" scale.
Thanks jdsmoothie, yes I am the only user, my wife doesn't use it.
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Also this being a 2016 X4300H what issues am I going to run into video wise if I plan on using a UHD60 4k projector or LG OLED tv to send signal too?
It will pass 4k and HDR10 but will not DV until an update, late 2017 or early 2018 is their target for DV.
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Most owners with a wife/children also accessing the setup likely prefer the "Absolute" scale (1-99) as it just makes more sense to them; however, if you are the primary user, you are more likely to use the "Relative" scale.


Out of curiosity what is the ratio of male to female customer you sell to?


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Out of curiosity what is the ratio of male to female customer you sell to?


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99% male/1% female, although normally just a wife buying the item for her husband
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99% male/1% female, although normally just a wife buying the item for her husband
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How hot is too hot for these things? I went to switch one of the inputs in the back and noticed the unit was pretty hot to the touch. I have it set in a slot in my entertainment center that isn't open in the back other then the hole for all of the HDMI and power cords. Should I worry about ventilation?
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How hot is too hot for these things? I went to switch one of the inputs in the back and noticed the unit was pretty hot to the touch. I have it set in a slot in my entertainment center that isn't open in the back other then the hole for all of the HDMI and power cords. Should I worry about ventilation?
Yes, you SHOULD worry. Buy a squirrel cage fan set and sleep easier at night knowing you aren't killing your receiver early...
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How hot is too hot for these things? I went to switch one of the inputs in the back and noticed the unit was pretty hot to the touch. I have it set in a slot in my entertainment center that isn't open in the back other then the hole for all of the HDMI and power cords. Should I worry about ventilation?
Yes, you should. That's not enough ventilation. Check out ACInfinity for fans that you could use. I cut out enough space for my fan to fit into my floating shelf.

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How hot is too hot for these things? I went to switch one of the inputs in the back and noticed the unit was pretty hot to the touch. I have it set in a slot in my entertainment center that isn't open in the back other then the hole for all of the HDMI and power cords. Should I worry about ventilation?
Suggest you invest in an IR temp gun to know the exact temp; however, if you can't leave your hand on top of the unit for more than a few seconds, that would indicate an exhaust fan of some sort is needed. There are numerous fan options to consider to include the AC Infinity T8 linked below.

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Which is normal operating temperature for a 4300?
I notice is much more hot than my previous 3300 (although it has aluminium heat sink)

And which temperature is needed to star internal coolin fans?
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Which is normal operating temperature for a 4300?
I notice is much more hot than my previous 3300 (although it has aluminium heat sink)

And which temperature is needed to star internal coolin fans?
1. Will likely be warm to the touch. Ensure there is at least 2-3" clearance on the top and sides as well as open front/back for proper ventilation.
2. 158 degrees F
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Any max temp spec you get from a manufacture will be a little below the upper limit it can run at and not fail during the warranty. Heat is the enemy of long life for electronics. You're spending enough for the AVR drop a little more and get it some airflow to help out cooling.

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Keeping my x4300 in Eco for everyday use keeps it very cool on top. I only use mine in non-eco when watching films


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Ok, i'm ready for some arragements on the sides of my furniture.... At the top i haven't problem with 5" now....

So, i understand is so important air flow on sides, right?

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Hi,

I have a question, I'm going to be upgrading from the 3300w to the 4300H shortly, I used the Audyssey app to run through room calibration, my question is can I use the same saved settings on the 4300H or would it be worth re-running the calibration from scratch? Nothing else has changed in my setup, just the amp.

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Ok, i'm ready for some arragements on the sides of my furniture.... At the top i haven't problem with 5" now....

So, i understand is so important air flow on sides, right?

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I have a question, I'm going to be upgrading from the 3300w to the 4300H shortly, I used the Audyssey app to run through room calibration, my question is can I use the same saved settings on the 4300H or would it be worth re-running the calibration from scratch? Nothing else has changed in my setup, just the amp.

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AFAIK, cannot be reused, so just rerun again.
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Ok, i'm ready for some arragements on the sides of my furniture.... At the top i haven't problem with 5" now....

So, i understand is so important air flow on sides, right?

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any airflow is good. The idea is to get cool air in to absorb the heat and then push out the hotter air to get more cool air in. Heat rises so the best possible configuration is cool air from below exhaust from the top. The best will be to have air flow through the vents of the AVR, but having the air above or around the unit being exchanged is much better than nothing.

If your only choice is side to side, have the cool air come in down low on the AVR and output up towards the top of that 5". I think you'll be happy with that.

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Hi there,

I recently setup a Denon AVR-X2300W with the Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System. I have 2 front speakers, 1 center speaker, a sub, and 2 rear speakers. I'm trying to configure this system to get the optimal sound settings when we watch movies and music.

Most of the time we stream movies through the Apple TV and PS4.

Normally, I play music through Airplay and have started to listen to the Internet Radio built-into the receiver.

What are the best listening modes for this setup? Do you suggest Dolby, Stereo....

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Hi there,

I recently setup a Denon AVR-X2300W with the Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System. I have 2 front speakers, 1 center speaker, a sub, and 2 rear speakers. I'm trying to configure this system to get the optimal sound settings when we watch movies and music.

Most of the time we stream movies through the Apple TV and PS4.

Normally, I play music through Airplay and have started to listen to the Internet Radio built-into the receiver.

What are the best listening modes for this setup? Do you suggest Dolby, Stereo....

Thanks,
personal preference and that might change by song or by artist, however if the source is 2 channel stereo 99 percent of the time it's played back in stereo with sub for me.

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I have a question, I'm going to be upgrading from the 3300w to the 4300H shortly, I used the Audyssey app to run through room calibration, my question is can I use the same saved settings on the 4300H or would it be worth re-running the calibration from scratch? Nothing else has changed in my setup, just the amp.

Thanks
You can reuse, but you will need to hack the file to change the avr model. This can be done in notepad, I've done it once for testing. There will be an entry that states the model name, just change to x4300h and you should be good.

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AFAIK, cannot be reused, so just rerun again.
It can be done, you just need to edit the file. I applied a 6011 Audyssey file into my x4300h just by editing the model number in the beginning of the file with notepad.

I'm assuming that you cannot take a 9 or 11 channel file and apply to a 7 channel avr. Haven't tested that though. I may test this one day, my brother picked up an x3300w I can see what happens when I try to apply a 9 or 11 channel config to it, I can't think of a way that it would let you do that though.

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subwoofer distance problem

I just re-ran Audyssey on my x4300h as I moved speaker positions a bit. I have dual subs with one wireless. Audyssey set the wireless sub at 31.1 feet which it had before. Post Audyssey I wanted to tweak my atmos module distance as it was incorrectly measuring directly to speaker and not taking into account ceiling bounce. When I make the changes and back out of the menu it tells me speaker distance is invalid and changes the wireless sub distance from 31.1 to 28.5. I can not change it back to 31.1 (or anything more than 28.5) without restoring audyssey settings but then I can't fix my atmos distances. Does the Denon have a max manual subwoofer distance setting of 28.5? Why the discrepancy between what Audyssey sets and what I can set manually? I don't get it.

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Please can anyone tell/estimate the power draw on the Denon X4300H powering just 4 speakers?

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Please can anyone tell/estimate the power draw on the Denon X4300H powering just 4 speakers?



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Depends on the speakers. The more efficient they are the less power needed to drive them at a given volume level.


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I recently setup a Denon AVR-X2300W with the Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System. I have 2 front speakers, 1 center speaker, a sub, and 2 rear speakers. I'm trying to configure this system to get the optimal sound settings when we watch movies and music.

Most of the time we stream movies through the Apple TV and PS4.

Normally, I play music through Airplay and have started to listen to the Internet Radio built-into the receiver.

What are the best listening modes for this setup? Do you suggest Dolby, Stereo....

Thanks,
For music I strongly prefer multi-channel stereo; it makes the music surround you, without any gimmicky processing. This also can make any video with a stereo soundtrack easier to understand.

Ultimately, though, what sounds best will depend on your hardware, your media, and your ears. Try different settings, and find out what works for you.
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Polk 620-RT, they are 89 db. I will be using it in an atmos setup. I'm trying to get a step down transformer for the Denon X4300H, hence why im trying to get the power draw.

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