Originally Posted by gossamer88
Since I recently went 4K with a LG C7 OLED and my Yamaha 1050 AVR is not getting the DV update, I am thinking of upgrading to either the 1070 or the X3400H.
They're both pretty similar but my main question is, am I really missing much HDR wise?
Also, has anyone gone from Yamaha to Denon or vice-versa with any regrets or glad they did the switch?
I came to my 4300 from two previous Yamahas, the last a 7.1 AVR. I was fine with the Yamahas, but wanted more channels and couldn't resist the 9.2 base with 11.2 processing at the blowout pricing on the 4300 last fall.
The differences I've found: The Yamaha seemed a lot more stable electronically. There are more posts here than I'm used to seeing about this, that or the other feature locking up or not working, advice about reset this or that, and updates hanging or bricking units. To be fair, my 4300 has not had any
of those issues, although every once in a while when I'm changing channels on my TiVo it will just lose its mind and push a full screen of very fine grained snow to my LG OLED which usually clears up in a few seconds, but every once in a while requires another channel change to fix. I am not a huge fan of the way my Denon handles video in general. I understand that the video needs to be processed to have the audio stripped off and then be fed to a luminance keyer to superimpose informational graphics, but I think they could do a better job of it than they do. And there really
should be a way to locally recover from a botched upgrade that bricks the machine. "Ship it back at your expense, and be without it for weeks" is not even remotely
customer friendly for an expensive device still under warranty.
The Yamaha on screen displays of things you see constantly, like volume, mute, and input/output status are a lot more aesthetically pleasing to me - I find the Denon's to be crude (and I'm being charitable here).
The Denon, on the other hand, has remarkably good speaker and room settings, and if you get some aftermarket app (which I haven't bothered to get), you can make a whole career of EQing your setup. I like the way they treat two subs as separate entities for setup. I do find that it tends to bury the center channel more than I'd like until I raise the volume past about 45-50.
I have mine set up in a 11.2 config with an external amp supplying the last two channels, and I make extensive use of the Dolby Surround upixer to drive all speakers with 5.1 (and less) sources. I'm happy with the way it sounds in general and would not want to go back to my 7.1 Yamaha. But I would be tempted by a Yamaha with similar specs at under $1K pricing.
And one other thing - there are a few highly knowledgeable posters here who help constantly, as well as a wizard named jdsmoothie
who is insanely knowledgeable on all things Denon, and responds to questions and issues and gives terrific advice. He wrote the first few extensive FAQ posts on this thread. His support is like having a Denon tech posting. There wasn't anything even vaguely close on the Yamaha threads.