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No, but that's a good idea.


What banana plugs are you all referring to?


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The ones he's referring to fixing are ones like my Amazon basics which tend to slightly unscrew at the base over time but not all the way(I retighten mine if loose about once a month.) The blue loctite should get rid of that. Not all of mine loosen up though. Maybe one or two out of 9 at the speaker posts. Dan recommended ones he used when he was teaching and he added a link in his post.

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These are the ones from monoprice. The product in itself is great however there is only the rim that connnects the flared wire to the body. Also the plug itself comes loose and easily slide out of connectors.. so the slotted tube has to be expanded. In all.. I doubted my speakers all the time and purchased new ones !
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I have a 3300 with a PS4 Pro and I have it working without issue. There is no reason the 1300 should not work. My recommendation is to replace the HDMI cables with Monoprice Certified. Don't overthink it, just do it. The cost is low. I would also recommend to turn off all video processing on the AVR but the cables are the most likely culprit.

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I had the same issue with a ‘high speed 18gbs’ hdmi when running HDR content from my Xbox x. It was the monoprice 45ft Cabernet, but they NOW state in that cable it doesn’t do HDR. Hint hint- it probably doesn’t actually meet the true 18gbs spec.

My run is longer at 30ft so I went with an expensive fiber optic hdmi cable. I get ARC with mine and it passes all content flawlessly. At only 3ft you can Greg away with a lot less.

Good luck. I luckily ran an empty conduit during my basement remodel. Talk about a stressful 10 min as I fed that damn cable through hoping it would a) make it and b) continue to work even after I had tested it for 2 weeks before install.
Well, I tried the monoprice certified 3ft cable, and within 30 minutes, it did the same flicker in HDR. I give up on this receiver. The TV is fine. The PS4 is fine. The PS4 cable is fine. The additional HDMI cable is fine. The receiver is the only weak link. I had no problem with my Pioneer receiver, it just didn’t have airplay, so I “upgraded”.

The Denon has been factory reset, and has the latest firmware. There really isn’t anything else to troubleshoot.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Owner of a new 6300 (you can get them at Crutchfield for $1,600 now, and the have plenty in stock), with a couple of questions:

1. The LG OLED is plugged in via the ARC out HDMI on the system. When using the smart tv features (netflix, amazon, etc), there is no sound from these features. Instead, the sound from whatever DTV channel it was on. What am I missing about the ARC setup that causes the sounds not to come back and thru the receiver? Could it be the HDMI cable?

2. This is probably me just being misinformed, or hoping for too much: It looks like there is no way to set the HDMI out for a specific input. I wanted to run DTV thru the monitor 1 out, and the game consoles thru the monitor 2 out, and plug them into HDMI 1 and 2 on the tv, but this doesn't seem to be possible. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance for any help on these. Will be checking the thread for answers, but it's a long thread (speaking of that, is there a way to search just in a thread here?) Loving the Atmos so far!

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Hey guys. I have the 4300H amp assign configured as 9.1 (5.1.4).
Is there a way to change use the surrounds for Stereo Music?
(My purpose is to compare how the Fronts compare with the Surrounds in Stereo).
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Hey guys. I have the 4300H amp assign configured as 9.1 (5.1.4).
Is there a way to change use the surrounds for Stereo Music?
(My purpose is to compare how the Fronts compare with the Surrounds in Stereo).
Yes, you can use the AMP ASSIGN = 7.1 + Front B moving the SL/SR speakers to the HT2L/HT2R speaker posts.
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1. The LG OLED is plugged in via the ARC out HDMI on the system. When using the smart tv features (netflix, amazon, etc), there is no sound from these features. Instead, the sound from whatever DTV channel it was on. What am I missing about the ARC setup that causes the sounds not to come back and thru the receiver? Could it be the HDMI cable?

2. This is probably me just being misinformed, or hoping for too much: It looks like there is no way to set the HDMI out for a specific input. I wanted to run DTV thru the monitor 1 out, and the game consoles thru the monitor 2 out, and plug them into HDMI 1 and 2 on the tv, but this doesn't seem to be possible. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance for any help on these. Will be checking the thread for answers, but it's a long thread (speaking of that, is there a way to search just in a thread here?) Loving the Atmos so far!
1. The "ARC" setting on the AVR (p. 194 Owner's manual) defaults to OFF. Set it to ON.
2. It is possible. Set the <HDMI Video Output> (p. 197 Owner's manual) to either "Monitor 1" or "Monitor 2."

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1. The "ARC" setting on the AVR (p. 194 Owner's manual) defaults to OFF. Set it to ON.
2. It is possible. Set the <HDMI Video Output> (p. 197 Owner's manual) to either "Monitor 1" or "Monitor 2."

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1. The "ARC" setting on the AVR (p. 194 Owner's manual) defaults to OFF. Set it to ON.
2. It is possible. Set the <HDMI Video Output> (p. 197 Owner's manual) to either "Monitor 1" or "Monitor 2."

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So you are saying that the video output settings are saved per input, and are not global, correct?

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Yes, you can use the AMP ASSIGN = 7.1 + Front B moving the SL/SR speakers to the HT2L/HT2R speaker posts.
Thanks...so, I have to change the cables...It should be assignable which connectors have which sprakers connected! Like: Im listening stereo music...let me choose which speakers of the 8 to use...
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I just want to report in that I’ve had the X4300H for almost 6 months now. I have a 4K HDR tv, Sony 4K player, PS4 and a 7.2 DefTech/ Hsu set up and using two HEOS 1 speakers. It has been great and has worked flawlessly. I can play the same music/song in the living room, bedroom, and hall bathroom at the same time and may add some more. I’ve really enjoyed it compared to my previous Pioneer. I hope it continues to be reliable and dependable! I am using an AC Infinity S9 with it to keep it cooler also!


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Thanks...so, I have to change the cables...It should be assignable which connectors have which sprakers connected! Like: Im listening stereo music...let me choose which speakers of the 8 to use...
Yeh ... doesn't work like that.
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So you are saying that the video output settings are saved per input, and are not global, correct?
Correct. You can even store the setting in a Quick Select setting as well.
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Not sure is this is the right place for this but I just built a new htpc with a ryzen 2400g processor. The pc is connected through a denon x2300w to a vizio p65-c1. When I have resolution set to 3840x2160p @60 Hz 4:4:4 I am only able to select 8 bit color from amd setting when going through the avr but can select 10 bit color if connected directly to the tv. Any ideas how I can fix this?

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Not sure is this is the right place for this but I just built a new htpc with a ryzen 2400g processor. The pc is connected through a denon x2300w to a vizio p65-c1. When I have resolution set to 3840x2160p @60 Hz 4:4:4 I am only able to select 8 bit color from amd setting when going through the avr but can select 10 bit color if connected directly to the tv. Any ideas how I can fix this?

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I wonder what you're actually getting when connecting the PC directly to the TV. 4:4:4 60 fps in 10 bits isn't supported by the HDMI 2.0 spec.
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Is the x4300h model worth the $400 more on A4L than the x3300w
Also is the Audyssey App worth it as well?
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I wonder what you're actually getting when connecting the PC directly to the TV. 4:4:4 60 fps in 10 bits isn't supported by the HDMI 2.0 spec.
Actually I screwed up. Did not noticed that when I hooked it to the tv that the refresh rate switched to from 60 to 29

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Is the x4300h model worth the $400 more on A4L than the x3300w
Also is the Audyssey App worth it as well?
Depends on your needs.

The 3300 is strictly a 7 channel device. If you're into Atmos, the best that you could do with it is 5.x.2.

The 4300 processes 11 channels, but has 9 onboard amps. You could do 5.x.4 Atmos with the onboard amps, and 7.x.4 by adding a cheap external stereo amp. It also has a phono input, if you're into vinyl, and a built-in HEOS module.

Whatever you choose to buy, you may want to look around some more, It may be possible to get a new version (with a longer than 1 year warranty) rather than a refurb from A4L. (That said, my X4300H came from them, and it looked new, complete with stickers and adhesive protectors for the shiny parts.) A few months ago, some major e-tailers were offering the 4300 for $800, new. I'm not sure whether you could find a similar deal now.

I think that the Audyssey Multeq Editor is worth $20, if you have an Android or iOS device that meets its requirements. (For Android, at least 2GB of RAM.) I had serious bugs with older versions on my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition (that's it's name, unfortunately), but the most recent version (1.20) is adequate.

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Hate to ask a question that has probably been answered a million times but...

For S720w, will the OSD/on device screen display audio as Dolby Atmos (and not DD+ / TRUEHD) if the audio format is Atmos (Netflix or UHD BluRay) but you don't have 5.x.2 currently configured?

I.e.: Amp Assign is *not* set with one of the following:
* Front Dolby: Setting for 7.1-channel playback using front Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers.
* Surround Dolby: Setting for 7.1-channel playback using surround Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers.

Put simply, will it only display Atmos on the front display when Amp Assign is setup that way?

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Hate to ask a question that has probably been answered a million times but...

For S720w, will the OSD/on device screen display audio as Dolby Atmos (and not DD+ / TRUEHD) if the audio format is Atmos (Netflix or UHD BluRay) but you don't have 5.x.2 currently configured?

I.e.: Amp Assign is *not* set with one of the following:
* Front Dolby: Setting for 7.1-channel playback using front Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers.
* Surround Dolby: Setting for 7.1-channel playback using surround Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers.

Put simply, will it only display Atmos on the front display when Amp Assign is setup that way?

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You must have either a 7.1 or 5.1.2 setup for the "Atmos" to display.
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You must have either a 7.1 or 5.1.2 setup for the "Atmos" to display.
Thanks for confirming! One less thing to puzzle over!

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Having an issue with my denon x1300w that I'm using for my 2 channel amp. Recently it has started tuning the volume down by itself. The unit doesn't turn off or anything and it's not from me playing it too loud. I'll just be playing a podcast or something and all of a sudden the volume with go down till its on the lowest setting. I gotta grab the remote and turn it back up. Anyone have an idea of what could cause this?
Do you have an Amazon Echo with the Heos skill enabled? I was having the same issue over the weekend and finally realized that it was the latest update to the Heos skill that added "ducking" whenever Alexa thinks someone says her name. I disabled the Heos skill completely.
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Hello all - X4300H owner here, facing a not entirely original conundrum, and am looking for advice.

In short, I'm currently running a 5.1.4 setup, 4 in-ceilings, and 5 floor speakers. I have a fairly large, dedicated listening/theater room, which measures 20x26x8 (more like 7'10" though). I plan to add the 2 rear channels soon to make this a 7.1.4 setup, so obviously, I need an external amp.

What I'm trying to decide is whether or not to just buy an inexpensive 2-channel amp for the rears (AudioSource amp100VS seems to be a frequently recommended option), or do I instead take some load off of the receiver and get a beefier amp to power the front 2, maybe 3, or even the main 5?

I have a mix of speakers, and do intend to replace the sides, so multi-channel music is voice-matched. Currenly, they are:
- Paradigm 95F
- Paradigm 55C
- Infinity Interlude IL30

The rear two I'm adding soon will be Infinity Interlude il10s. I know, quite a gap between the Paradigms and the Infinity's, but it's what I have. Down the road I'll be getting some Paradigm 15b's for the 5.1 rears, and will then move the IL30s to the back for the 7.1 rears. Anyway...

The Paradigm Prestige line is pretty efficient, the 95F and 55c being rated at 94/91dB Room/Anechoic. However, they are demanding in other ways, as Stereophile revealed:

"The 95F's impedance is specified as being "compatible with 8 ohms." You can see from the solid trace in fig.1 that the impedance magnitude drops below 4 ohms only in the lower midrange and high treble, with a minimum audioband value of 3.5 ohms at 160Hz. Though the impedance drops to 2.4 ohms at 50kHz."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...1oJjwOwvzAB.99

Note: I do listen to a lot of multi-channel SACDs and Blu Rays, and in stereo music mode, I have the Sub turned off, if any of that matters.

Basically, I'm trying to decide between:

1. A cheap stereo amp for the 2 rear channels, or
2. Something like an Outlaw 5000 for the main 5, or
3. Perhaps 2 or 3 Outlaw 2200 monoblocks for the LCR.

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I think this depends on your listening volume. If you've got plenty spare "volume" now, you don't need a big amp. I went with a small external one for my rear speakers. My typical listening volume is around -40dB (with loudness correction turned to low or medium and negative volume scale).
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I have an X4300H in a 7.2.4 setup.

Until recently, I used an Audiosource AD1002 (similar to the AMP100VS, but class D rather than A/B) to drive the rear heights.

I upgraded the LCRs to Hsu CCB-8 (were Hsu HB-1 Mk1 and HC-1 Mk2), changed the heights to Canton Plus GX.3s, and am driving the LCRs by an Emotiva XPA3 Gen 3. I'm not sure whether the AC line it's plugged into has a 15A or 20A breaker, but it hasn't tripped yet.

I think that the sound has improved, but there are other ways I could have spent $2.8k that might have improved my life more.

Go with what you can afford. If you listen to a lot of stereo music, you might be happy with adding an amp just for LR. For movies and multichannel audio, LCR.

Beyond that, the sky is the limit. You may have trouble finding a single power amp that can provide high power to 11 channels. 5 or 7 seems more common.
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Hello all - X4300H owner here, facing a not entirely original conundrum, and am looking for advice.

In short, I'm currently running a 5.1.4 setup, 4 in-ceilings, and 5 floor speakers. I have a fairly large, dedicated listening/theater room, which measures 20x26x8 (more like 7'10" though). I plan to add the 2 rear channels soon to make this a 7.1.4 setup, so obviously, I need an external amp.

What I'm trying to decide is whether or not to just buy an inexpensive 2-channel amp for the rears (AudioSource amp100VS seems to be a frequently recommended option), or do I instead take some load off of the receiver and get a beefier amp to power the front 2, maybe 3, or even the main 5?

I have a mix of speakers, and do intend to replace the sides, so multi-channel music is voice-matched. Currenly, they are:
- Paradigm 95F
- Paradigm 55C
- Infinity Interlude IL30

The rear two I'm adding soon will be Infinity Interlude il10s. I know, quite a gap between the Paradigms and the Infinity's, but it's what I have. Down the road I'll be getting some Paradigm 15b's for the 5.1 rears, and will then move the IL30s to the back for the 7.1 rears. Anyway...

The Paradigm Prestige line is pretty efficient, the 95F and 55c being rated at 94/91dB Room/Anechoic. However, they are demanding in other ways, as Stereophile revealed:

"The 95F's impedance is specified as being "compatible with 8 ohms." You can see from the solid trace in fig.1 that the impedance magnitude drops below 4 ohms only in the lower midrange and high treble, with a minimum audioband value of 3.5 ohms at 160Hz. Though the impedance drops to 2.4 ohms at 50kHz."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...1oJjwOwvzAB.99

Note: I do listen to a lot of multi-channel SACDs and Blu Rays, and in stereo music mode, I have the Sub turned off, if any of that matters.

Basically, I'm trying to decide between:

1. A cheap stereo amp for the 2 rear channels, or
2. Something like an Outlaw 5000 for the main 5, or
3. Perhaps 2 or 3 Outlaw 2200 monoblocks for the LCR.

Any opinions?
I like 3, it's similar to what I did, which is an Emotiva 3 channel amp. I think a 5 channel amp is overkill. With two or 3 channels covered with the monoblocks, running out of power shouldn't be an issue. I also listen to multi channel music, and it's worked great for me. You can even split the difference, and get a relatively inexpensive stereo amp like this: https://emotiva.com/collections/amps/products/a-300
which will take the strain off your Denon, letting it power the less demanding channels.
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Hello all - X4300H owner here, facing a not entirely original conundrum, and am looking for advice.

In short, I'm currently running a 5.1.4 setup, 4 in-ceilings, and 5 floor speakers. I have a fairly large, dedicated listening/theater room, which measures 20x26x8 (more like 7'10" though). I plan to add the 2 rear channels soon to make this a 7.1.4 setup, so obviously, I need an external amp.

What I'm trying to decide is whether or not to just buy an inexpensive 2-channel amp for the rears (AudioSource amp100VS seems to be a frequently recommended option), or do I instead take some load off of the receiver and get a beefier amp to power the front 2, maybe 3, or even the main 5?

I have a mix of speakers, and do intend to replace the sides, so multi-channel music is voice-matched. Currenly, they are:
- Paradigm 95F
- Paradigm 55C
- Infinity Interlude IL30

The rear two I'm adding soon will be Infinity Interlude il10s. I know, quite a gap between the Paradigms and the Infinity's, but it's what I have. Down the road I'll be getting some Paradigm 15b's for the 5.1 rears, and will then move the IL30s to the back for the 7.1 rears. Anyway...

The Paradigm Prestige line is pretty efficient, the 95F and 55c being rated at 94/91dB Room/Anechoic. However, they are demanding in other ways, as Stereophile revealed:

"The 95F's impedance is specified as being "compatible with 8 ohms." You can see from the solid trace in fig.1 that the impedance magnitude drops below 4 ohms only in the lower midrange and high treble, with a minimum audioband value of 3.5 ohms at 160Hz. Though the impedance drops to 2.4 ohms at 50kHz."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...1oJjwOwvzAB.99

Note: I do listen to a lot of multi-channel SACDs and Blu Rays, and in stereo music mode, I have the Sub turned off, if any of that matters.

Basically, I'm trying to decide between:

1. A cheap stereo amp for the 2 rear channels, or
2. Something like an Outlaw 5000 for the main 5, or
3. Perhaps 2 or 3 Outlaw 2200 monoblocks for the LCR.

Any opinions?
As suggested, which way you go will depend on your preferred listening volume and your budget. If your budget can easily afford option 3, then go for it, otherwise, suggest you wait until you have the speakers in place and then use just the AVR to power them (minus the second set of heights of course which won't draw much power). If you're not having to go above 80/0db, then all you need is an AudioSource Amp100VS (or similar lower powered amp). Note that setting the sub to OFF does matter as the lower frequencies require the most power which is why subs have their own amps and the AVR is not used to power it/them. So your FL/FR speakers will be playing the lower frequencies normally reproduced by the sub and therefore will draw more power.
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Hello all - X4300H owner here, facing a not entirely original conundrum, and am looking for advice.

In short, I'm currently running a 5.1.4 setup, 4 in-ceilings, and 5 floor speakers. I have a fairly large, dedicated listening/theater room, which measures 20x26x8 (more like 7'10" though). I plan to add the 2 rear channels soon to make this a 7.1.4 setup, so obviously, I need an external amp.

What I'm trying to decide is whether or not to just buy an inexpensive 2-channel amp for the rears (AudioSource amp100VS seems to be a frequently recommended option), or do I instead take some load off of the receiver and get a beefier amp to power the front 2, maybe 3, or even the main 5?

I have a mix of speakers, and do intend to replace the sides, so multi-channel music is voice-matched. Currenly, they are:
- Paradigm 95F
- Paradigm 55C
- Infinity Interlude IL30

The rear two I'm adding soon will be Infinity Interlude il10s. I know, quite a gap between the Paradigms and the Infinity's, but it's what I have. Down the road I'll be getting some Paradigm 15b's for the 5.1 rears, and will then move the IL30s to the back for the 7.1 rears. Anyway...

The Paradigm Prestige line is pretty efficient, the 95F and 55c being rated at 94/91dB Room/Anechoic. However, they are demanding in other ways, as Stereophile revealed:

"The 95F's impedance is specified as being "compatible with 8 ohms." You can see from the solid trace in fig.1 that the impedance magnitude drops below 4 ohms only in the lower midrange and high treble, with a minimum audioband value of 3.5 ohms at 160Hz. Though the impedance drops to 2.4 ohms at 50kHz."

https://www.stereophile.com/content/...1oJjwOwvzAB.99

Note: I do listen to a lot of multi-channel SACDs and Blu Rays, and in stereo music mode, I have the Sub turned off, if any of that matters.

Basically, I'm trying to decide between:

1. A cheap stereo amp for the 2 rear channels, or
2. Something like an Outlaw 5000 for the main 5, or
3. Perhaps 2 or 3 Outlaw 2200 monoblocks for the LCR.

Any opinions?
I like option 3 and I have something similar where I use another Denon to power the Mains. I presently only have 5.1 setup.
However, with this.. I guess I would still need an external amp if I had to do 7.1.4 I think because the amps cannot be shifted so as to use the free mains from X4300.
5.1.4 should be fine though.
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