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Works fine on my X4300H. It's a bit limited, though: no onscreen volume slider display in DV mode. I'm told that is by design. I can see the AVR's display, so it's a minor consideration for me.

I'm not sure whether it is compatible with the DV format used by the Sony OLED displays. (My display is an LG.) I know that the Oppo UDP-203 UHD player is incompatible, although a firmware fix has been promised.
It should be, yes, as the Sony low latency issue was taken into account before the DV update was released.
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If I wanted to add a 2 channel amp to my left and right speaker so I could do the .4 atmos with my 4300 receiver what would I buy to be a little bit better than the amps in the receiver. I am running the berngers blx 215xl for my lcrs and am happy with sound from what I have now. I know they are and easy speaker to drive.
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Hmmm, thanks for the uplifting and positive reply. You know, the one where I try and get a denon app to work with a denon product via its BT connection. You know, part of it's product feature. I'm sorry that its lack of usable features, and my incessant desire to use something that I paid for in a way that I wish to, offends. I shan't darken your door with more such rants.

I just have one more question for you. How's the goat where you are....

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The goat's just fine, he sends his regards.

You've pretty much nailed your problem in that reply though:-

The heos app has NO Bluetooth functionality, and doesn't claim to. You are trying to do something with it that it simply does not do.

If you want Bluetooth just pair it with the damn phone or tablet like any other Bluetooth speaker. The app is for WiFi use... And WiFi use only.

As before, how hard can this be to understand?

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My x3300 has randomly turned on four times this past week. Entire system had been turned off. HDMI control was set for "off" on the x3300 and other components (although ATV 4K hdmi control can't be totally turned off). It has turned on a couple times for HR44 input (it's always on so it wakes me up in the middle of the night) and a couple times for input from the Samsung UHD player (which is off and therefore doesn't wake me up). Since HDMI control is off, the TV doesn't turn on. I can't think of any recent changes to setup on any components that could cause this issue.

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If I wanted to add a 2 channel amp to my left and right speaker so I could do the .4 atmos with my 4300 receiver what would I buy to be a little bit better than the amps in the receiver. I am running the berngers blx 215xl for my lcrs and am happy with sound from what I have now. I know they are and easy speaker to drive.
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I bought a used Denon PMA-520ae for this, but using it for the rear Atmos speakers.
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My x3300 has randomly turned on four times this past week. Entire system had been turned off. HDMI control was set for "off" on the x3300 and other components (although ATV 4K hdmi control can't be totally turned off). It has turned on a couple times for HR44 input (it's always on so it wakes me up in the middle of the night) and a couple times for input from the Samsung UHD player (which is off and therefore doesn't wake me up). Since HDMI control is off, the TV doesn't turn on. I can't think of any recent changes to setup on any components that could cause this issue.

Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions?
Try selecting "Network Control" "Off in Standby". See page 214 in the 3300's owners manual, which is available at http://manuals.denon.com/avrx3300w/na/en/

If "network on in standby" is enabled (the default), someone's smartphone might inadvertently be trying to use your receiver as a player device, perhaps when the phone is doing a software update.
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If I wanted to add a 2 channel amp to my left and right speaker so I could do the .4 atmos with my 4300 receiver what would I buy to be a little bit better than the amps in the receiver. I am running the berngers blx 215xl for my lcrs and am happy with sound from what I have now. I know they are and easy speaker to drive.
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Emotiva's BasX line of stereo power amps comes to mind.
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Emotiva's BasX line of stereo power amps comes to mind.
I have been looking at those.
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I have been looking at those.
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I have an Outlaw 5000 myself but the Emotiva amps are great as well. If I needed a more powerful 2 channel amp for not a lot of money that would be in my AV rack.

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I recently installed a 3400X with Sony 75” 900e on main TV, Sunbrite Veranda 55” in Zone 2 HDMI. Was only able to get a picture after switching Sunbrite HDMI setting to 1.3. 4K Roku worked perfect after that but Sony X800 BluRay Player will only display on Zone 2 if I eject the disc tray then close it.

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I have an Outlaw 5000 myself but the Emotiva amps are great as well. If I needed a more powerful 2 channel amp for not a lot of money that would be in my AV rack.
It seems Outlaw, Emotiva and Monolinth are among a handful of amp/receiver manufacturers that actually disclose objective accurate power ratings especially with more than one channel driven............

https://www.audioholics.com/audio-am...consumer-audio


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These may be great products and I'm not debating their fidelity. However, the manufacturers should be embarrassed to offer so few objective performance metrics. As Dr. Floyd Toole says, "You usually get more useful information from the sidewall of a tire than you do from loudspeaker manufacturer specifications...." I'm going to extend the usefulness of that phrase to how Class D amplifiers are being specified and sadly how the FTC is letting this go under the radar.
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It seems Outlaw, Emotiva and Monolinth are among a handful of amp/receiver manufacturers that actually disclose objective accurate power ratings especially with more than one channel driven............

https://www.audioholics.com/audio-am...consumer-audio


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These may be great products and I'm not debating their fidelity. However, the manufacturers should be embarrassed to offer so few objective performance metrics. As Dr. Floyd Toole says, "You usually get more useful information from the sidewall of a tire than you do from loudspeaker manufacturer specifications...." I'm going to extend the usefulness of that phrase to how Class D amplifiers are being specified and sadly how the FTC is letting this go under the radar.
Nice article. Hard to argue with Dr. Toole.
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I recently installed a 3400X with Sony 75” 900e on main TV, Sunbrite Veranda 55” in Zone 2 HDMI. Was only able to get a picture after switching Sunbrite HDMI setting to 1.3. 4K Roku worked perfect after that but Sony X800 BluRay Player will only display on Zone 2 if I eject the disc tray then close it.

Any ideas on how to fix that?
Oops! Wrong thread as this is for the X3300W. Please repost in the 2017 Denon AVR Owner's thread.
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Nice article. Hard to argue with Dr. Toole.
You just have to keep in mind that most amplifier power ratings are now measured based on the idea that at the instant of measurement, the thing has been struck by lightning, and that $99 amplifier really can deliver the specified 800 watts for that microsecond before it's vaporized.
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You just have to keep in mind that most amplifier power ratings are now measured based on the idea that at the instant of measurement, the thing has been struck by lightning, and that $99 amplifier really can deliver the specified 800 watts for that microsecond before it's vaporized.
But oh how the sound quality for that microsecond to my Golden ears was absolutely amazing.
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You just have to keep in mind that most amplifier power ratings are now measured based on the idea that at the instant of measurement, the thing has been struck by lightning, and that $99 amplifier really can deliver the specified 800 watts for that microsecond before it's vaporized.
That's basically how the megabucks amps are rated as well, only they don't reach the 800 watt output levels.
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Just doesn't sound right. What are you guys running?

Hi guys im just getting into the surround sound game and wanted to see if I have set up my equipment correctly. Here my setup, I have trition ones as the fronts, supersat 3s for rear and center. The Surround receiver is a Denon 3300w. I am using a NAD c388 to power the trition ones and have them going into the Denon through the preouts. I am also using the LFE on the tritons. I ran the Auddesy but things just don't sound right. Is anyone that is familiar how all the setting I should have set up with this setup? Should Auddesy be set up on "reference" or "L/R Bypass" for the MultEQ xt32? Also I could not equalize the subs in the Tritons so during set up I choose the skip equalize option. They were both pushing 100db or more. When I turned the manual knob all the way down still would either be in the 85-95db range. Do you guys have Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume on or off?
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Stupid question of the day: are the Tritons set as "large" in the 3300's settings?
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Stupid question of the day: are the Tritons set as "large" in the 3300's settings?
Yes they are. I have the center set to small, rear set to small, and sub woofer set to two. I was able to set the crossovers for the center and rears in the settings but not for the fronts. I'm still learning to navigate the receiver as well.
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Yes they are. I have the center set to small, rear set to small, and sub woofer set to two. I was able to set the crossovers for the center and rears in the settings but not for the fronts. I'm still learning to navigate the receiver as well.
If the fronts are set to "large", there are no crossovers for them. They receive everything. It also disables the subs. I think that would also de-activate the LFE connections to the fronts.

I have no clue why the combination "doesn't sound right".
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I currently own a 4311ci, its a 145W receiver. I am debating between x4400h vs the x6400h But the price on the 6400h is almost twice of the 4400h.
the 4400h is a 125w receiver. The max i turn on my volume on the 4311ci is -12 decible. If i buy the 4400h, how much will i loose. Will i be able to tune down the volume to the same levels i get at -12 decible on the 4311ci?
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Hi guys im just getting into the surround sound game and wanted to see if I have set up my equipment correctly. Here my setup, I have trition ones as the fronts, supersat 3s for rear and center. The Surround receiver is a Denon 3300w. I am using a NAD c388 to power the trition ones and have them going into the Denon through the preouts. I am also using the LFE on the tritons. I ran the Auddesy but things just don't sound right. Is anyone that is familiar how all the setting I should have set up with this setup? Should Auddesy be set up on "reference" or "L/R Bypass" for the MultEQ xt32? Also I could not equalize the subs in the Tritons so during set up I choose the skip equalize option. They were both pushing 100db or more. When I turned the manual knob all the way down still would either be in the 85-95db range. Do you guys have Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume on or off?
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Well your not really saying what sounds off about it.

However that Sat3 isn't going to cut it as a center channel lol.

The center channel speaker is litteraly the most important speaker in the entire surround setup, it is more important than the L/Rs even. Why you ask? Because that is where all of your dialog comes from. The most used speaker in a surround setup is the center, by like x10 amount of any other speaker at minium. Buying 2500 dollar towers and a 250 dollar center is pretty silly imo.

In surround setups the L/Rs become just that, Surrounds. It's not like a stereo setup. Center is King.

I can gaurntee that your L/R are overshadowing that center. Get a sat 50 at minium, a 60 would be better.

Also the best center channel is another L/R, if you can't do that, than an even macth. What you have going on is nothing close to an even macth lol.

Of course, personally an of the opinion that all speakers should macth 100% in a surround setup. When you hear a system like that, you will see why. Even if you went sat 3s all around it would be better than what you currently have.

You could, keep the TOs for stereo, and use Sat 3s for L/R in 5.1 setup.

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Per the goldenear website they say it's better to go LFE. Is there a way I can verify it in the settings? Also are you using the Reference setting?

Hmm OK I think to help explain better I feel that the surround is not emersive enough. I don't tell If it's just that Triton ones are just too much for the supersat3.

I see so now that you mention how important the center is maybe I should look into getting a super center xl? I think the XXL might be over kill since the room is only 14x12.5. Would the super center x be too small?

Tomorrow I'm going to go pick up some invisa 7000 to make it a 5.0.2 setup. After funds are replenished I can look into a larger center.

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Per the goldenear website they say it's better to go LFE. Is there a way I can verify it in the settings? Also are you using the Reference setting?
LFE has nothing to do with settings, you need to wire the subs to the LFE outputs (I'm assuming from what I read they have LFE connections).

So then you should effectively have the speakers wired (maybe not through pre since I don't think it will get self power?) Then the sub with it's LFE.

The speakers should all be set to small then, and replace that center.

Ehh you edited lol. I will do that too now lol.

I would get the closest macthing center you can. It should have as many or more drivers than your L/RS. It is most common for a center to have double the drivers that the L/Rs do if not the same amount, less than L/Rs is not ideal. It had to cover not only the dialogue, but also the space between your L/R to fill the sound stage.

As far as the sat 3 surrounds, they may be fine. You could go bigger. Like I said personally I would use all the exact same speaker. So TOnes for all 5 speakers, though most would suggest just to timber macth. Have them at least near the same level.

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LFE has nothing to do with settings, you need to wire the subs to the LFE outputs (I'm assuming from what I read they have LFE connections).

So then you should effectively have the speakers wired (maybe not through pre since I don't think it will get self power?) Then the sub with it's LFE.

The speakers should all be set to small then, and replace that center.

Ehh you edited lol. I will do that too now lol.

I would get the closest macthing center you can. It should have as many or more drivers than your L/RS. It is most common for a center to have double the drivers that the L/Rs do if not the same amount, less than L/Rs is not ideal. It had to cover not only the dialogue, but also the space between your L/R to fill the sound stage.

As far as the sat 3 surrounds, they may be fine. You could go bigger. Like I said personally I would use all the exact same speaker. So TOnes for all 5 speakers, though most would suggest just to timber macth. Have them at least near the same level.
Yes sorry about the edit. Feel like I'm learning a bunch in the spot here. I appreciate the help.

Basically this was a stereo setup and just got bored so decided to tinker with 5.x.x.

I figured supersats would get it done but clearly see now there might be a disparity.

The TOnes have the subs built in with power and see direct LFE connection so thats why was set to large and lfe into preout sub 1 and 2.

Would be tough to find a center that has more drivers than the TOnes lol I'm go demo the super center series then.

I also noticed that when audessy is doing the mic testing the fronts are not as loud as the rest of the speakers. If that because they are going through a preout? I believe the receiver had upped them 12db to equalize them.
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Hi guys im just getting into the surround sound game and wanted to see if I have set up my equipment correctly. Here my setup, I have trition ones as the fronts, supersat 3s for rear and center. The Surround receiver is a Denon 3300w. I am using a NAD c388 to power the trition ones and have them going into the Denon through the preouts. I am also using the LFE on the tritons. I ran the Auddesy but things just don't sound right. Is anyone that is familiar how all the setting I should have set up with this setup? Should Auddesy be set up on "reference" or "L/R Bypass" for the MultEQ xt32? Also I could not equalize the subs in the Tritons so during set up I choose the skip equalize option. They were both pushing 100db or more. When I turned the manual knob all the way down still would either be in the 85-95db range. Do you guys have Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume on or off?
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Do an A/B set-up. The trition ones for stereo playback run off the NAD and a matched set(at least in front LCR) of speakers for surround running off the Denon.
The trition's are too much speaker for LR in a 5.1 or 7.1 system in my opinion after looking them up. They do look like they
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I currently own a 4311ci, its a 145W receiver. I am debating between x4400h vs the x6400h But the price on the 6400h is almost twice of the 4400h.
the 4400h is a 125w receiver. The max i turn on my volume on the 4311ci is -12 decible. If i buy the 4400h, how much will i loose. Will i be able to tune down the volume to the same levels i get at -12 decible on the 4311ci?
There shouldn't be much difference between the two models, power wise, rather the major benefit is the X6400H can power 11CH w/o external amplification while the X4400H requires an external amp.
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Yes sorry about the edit. Feel like I'm learning a bunch in the spot here. I appreciate the help.

Basically this was a stereo setup and just got bored so decided to tinker with 5.x.x.

I figured supersats would get it done but clearly see now there might be a disparity.

The TOnes have the subs built in with power and see direct LFE connection so thats why was set to large and lfe into preout sub 1 and 2.

Would be tough to find a center that has more drivers than the TOnes lol I'm go demo the super center series then.

I also noticed that when audessy is doing the mic testing the fronts are not as loud as the rest of the speakers. If that because they are going through a preout? I believe the receiver had upped them 12db to equalize them.
1. Although how you set them is based on personal preference, most likely they should be reset to SMALL/80Hz in Manual Setup.
2. The external amp should be set to at least 80% of maximum volume if there is a volume control.
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Do an A/B set-up. The trition ones for stereo playback run off the NAD and a matched set(at least in front LCR) of speakers for surround running off the Denon.
The trition's are too much speaker for LR in a 5.1 or 7.1 system in my opinion after looking them up. They do look like they
would be great for stereo playback.
I guess I would need more supersat3 to do that for the fronts.

Yeah it's looking like that. They are great for stereo as you mention
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1. Although how you set them is based on personal preference, most likely they should be reset to SMALL/80Hz in Manual Setup.
2. The external amp should be set to at least 80% of maximum volume if there is a volume control.
Per goldenear

In a Multi-channel (Home Theater and Music) Setup: We have found we get better results when we run LFE cables to the Tritons (LFE is the ".1" part of the 5.1, etc., format and contains the movies' bass effects). When you run separate LFE cables (use a "Y" splitter if your receiver only has one LFE output) you can then control the LFE output separately from the receiver/processor and raise the level, if desired, rather than have the fixed level when you hook up with just speaker wires. Bass management settings of Left and Right Main = LARGE (absolutely not Small), Sub = Yes, with separate LFE cables run to each Triton, delivers the best performance (more extended and/or higher levels of LFE bass information) with most receivers/processors. Set the sub level on the back of the Tritons with 2-channel music material, and then set the LFE level on your receiver/processor to taste. (You CAN also hook them up with only speaker wire and set the processor for Large Left and Right and Sub = No. This will still yield good results, but may not be as good as using the setup with separate LFE input in addition).

So I don't think small would be a good idea
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