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Not aware of a release date although not likely until all of the 2018 models have been released, so perhaps late fall.


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I just got the SR7011 and I'm not finding a line level output that I can use to send a signal to my basement receiver like I did with my Yamaha RX-Z7. The front preamp outputs are controlled by the volume control and the level is pretty low unless the Marantz receiver is turned way up. Is there a way to set the preamp out at a higher fixed level so I can use it as I'd like?

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I just got the SR7011 and I'm not finding a line level output that I can use to send a signal to my basement receiver like I did with my Yamaha RX-Z7. The front preamp outputs are controlled by the volume control and the level is pretty low unless the Marantz receiver is turned way up. Is there a way to set the preamp out at a higher fixed level so I can use it as I'd like?
Use either the Zone 2 or Zone 3 pre-amp outputs. Refer to p. 258 Owner's manual for setting higher fixed volume setting.

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Thanks for that suggestion and the information in the manual. Unfortunately that won't work for me because I am using the Marantz receiver as a central system. Besides providing 5.1 surround in my family room, I also use zone 2 to route stereo sound and video to my bedroom TV and speakers. It's a nice way to avoid having boxes on the dresser. Zone 3 is used to run a pair of speakers in the living room. The Yamaha I used previously had a tape loop so I was able to use line out to feed the downstairs system.

Do you have any other ideas for how to get a line level signal from the Marantz 7011?

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Thanks for that suggestion and the information in the manual. Unfortunately that won't work for me because I am using the Marantz receiver as a central system. Besides providing 5.1 surround in my family room, I also use zone 2 to route stereo sound and video to my bedroom TV and speakers. It's a nice way to avoid having boxes on the dresser. Zone 3 is used to run a pair of speakers in the living room. The Yamaha I used previously had a tape loop so I was able to use line out to feed the downstairs system.

Do you have any other ideas for how to get a line level signal from the Marantz 7011?
Other than using a "Y" splitter on either the Zone 2 or Zone 3 pre-outs, no.
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I'm not using the preamp outs on any of the zones. The problem is that the preamp outs are tied to the level of the volume control so unless it's turned way up the output to my basement receiver is too low.

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I'm not using the preamp outs on any of the zones. The problem is that the preamp outs are tied to the level of the volume control so unless it's turned way up the output to my basement receiver is too low.
Replace the bedroom speakers with a powered sound bar connected to the TV. That would then allow you to set the Zone 2 pre-outs at a high fixed volume level and pass to the basement receiver.
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With prices truly insane right now because of the new model year AV receivers right now, what would I be missing if I bought an "open box" 7011 instead of the newer 7012?

Obviously, some things changed, but for the life of me I can't find a truly authoritative and comprehensive list comparing the two models.

I know that the 7012 doesn't have HD radio, but I know if it is not important to me, even here in the US.

Sorry I am wasting time if this is has been covered, but I didn't know where else to look, and figured this thread is most likely to get an accurate response.

I found a new SR6012 for $899 but I also found an open box SR7011 for $995.
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By looking at the firmware number, can you tell if it's a US/EU firmware?
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With prices truly insane right now because of the new model year AV receivers right now, what would I be missing if I bought an "open box" 7011 instead of the newer 7012?

Obviously, some things changed, but for the life of me I can't find a truly authoritative and comprehensive list comparing the two models.

I know that the 7012 doesn't have HD radio, but I know if it is not important to me, even here in the US.

Sorry I am wasting time if this is has been covered, but I didn't know where else to look, and figured this thread is most likely to get an accurate response.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...ls-sticky.html

The 2017 SR7012 features Auro 3D ($199 upgrade on the SR7011), DTS Virtual:X, eARC (future firmware update), and firmware update support for an extra year.

Note also, the 2018 SR7013 won't be released until September.

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Sorry, but for the sake of precision and decision, on the Sr7011 the SAVE to Usb drive is also working. Ok for the other items. In my opinion the major advantage in a full 7.x.4 system is the included Auro3D decoder ( so, if the price difference is not much higher than 200$, its a no brainer to go with the Sr7012!).
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The 2017 SR7012 features Auro 3D ($199 upgrade on the SR7011), DTS Virtual:X, eARC (future firmware update), and firmware update support for an extra year.

Note also, the 2018 SR7013 won't be released until September.
Sorry, I forgot to point out the obvious (Auro-3D), but good to know the precise answer.
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Today many dealers dropped the price for a new SR5012 to $599. At least major one already lists SR6012 as "discontinued" and SR6013 available for pre-order, but nothing about the 7013 either. That is $400 on the 5 and $600 off the 6. I would not be surprised if the SR7012 went to $1399 or - $800 off when they detail specs and release date for the SR7013 (the 8012 will endure through the next model cycle). Probably August / September.

I have seen a couple SR5013 for sale online, so the 6013 is probably hiding "in a warehouse near me".
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Another difference - no longer have learning remote with display. Since the SR8012 is now the top dog, it gets the nicer, learning remote with display and SR7012's is replaced with a standard remote.
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Pre outs are not tied to volume control. Sounds like you have something wired or configured incorrect.

???

Yes they are.

Otherwise a receiver's volume control would do nothing for people using external amps...
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Yes they are.

Otherwise a receiver's volume control would do nothing for people using external amps...
Let me clarify, the pre outs for Zones 2 or 3. They have their own volume controls. Not tied to zone 1.
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The pre-amp outputs of zone 1, 2 and 3 are tied to the volume control. Zone 2 powers a pair of JBL L100 speakers in the bedroom and zone 3 powers a pair of speakers in the living room. Since I have speakers connected to each zone and don't want to switch the bedroom speakers to a sound bar which will have inferior sound compared to the JBL L100 speakers used there, I don't believe there is a line level output that can be connected to send a signal to a different receiver in the basement. If someone has a way to accomplish this I'd appreciate it if they post here.

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I have the SR-6011 for over a year and had no problems with it until now. Just the other day, I turned it on and I have a loud hiss, like I've tuned to AM radio with no station. It's coming from the center and side speakers only. Turning the volume does nothing and no sound from the actual source.


I'm looking to see if I can get it repaired, note that it is not under warranty. There seems to be no "authorized" center near to me. Any recommendations on a repair shop in NC?


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I have the SR-6011 for over a year and had no problems with it until now. Just the other day, I turned it on and I have a loud hiss, like I've tuned to AM radio with no station. It's coming from the center and side speakers only. Turning the volume does nothing and no sound from the actual source.


I'm looking to see if I can get it repaired, note that it is not under warranty. There seems to be no "authorized" center near to me. Any recommendations on a repair shop in NC?


Thx.
Before considering repair, try swapping speakers around to confirm the issue is the AVR and not the individual speakers. If the issue persists in the other speakers, you'll want to do several "Resetting the SR6011" as noted in post 5 of this thread. If still no joy, and you purchased the SR6011 "new", it comes with a 3 year warranty so would still be covered, otherwise, if you purchased as a "refurb" then it only comes with a 1 year warranty; however, many credit cards will add 1-2 years extended warranty to the mfr's warranty so check with your credit card issuer to confirm. Lastly, if there is confirmed no warranty coverage, you may want to consider shipping it up to the factory repair center: United Radio, Syracuse, NY which, although costing more in shipping, normally results in a much quicker turn around (days) as little mom&pop repair centers will sometimes hold on to units for several months before returning them.
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Has anyone with the 7011 (I know I have the 6011 just curious) done the $200 Auro-3D upgrade or heard it/seen it? I mean is there any real reason to do it given the lack of content or is its upmixer just as capable or better than ATMOS/DTSX. I have never heard Auro 3d in person but I am familiar with its original 3 levels of sound and a center voice of god channel but is practical for the current home theater scene.

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I have the SR-6011 for over a year and had no problems with it until now. Just the other day, I turned it on and I have a loud hiss, like I've tuned to AM radio with no station. It's coming from the center and side speakers only. Turning the volume does nothing and no sound from the actual source.


I'm looking to see if I can get it repaired, note that it is not under warranty. There seems to be no "authorized" center near to me. Any recommendations on a repair shop in NC?


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Before considering repair, try swapping speakers around to confirm the issue is the AVR and not the individual speakers. If the issue persists in the other speakers, you'll want to do several "Resetting the SR6011" as noted in post 5 of this thread. If still no joy, and you purchased the SR6011 "new", it comes with a 3 year warranty so would still be covered, otherwise, if you purchased as a "refurb" then it only comes with a 1 year warranty; however, many credit cards will add 1-2 years extended warranty to the mfr's warranty so check with your credit card issuer to confirm. Lastly, if there is confirmed no warranty coverage, you may want to consider shipping it up to the factory repair center: United Radio, Syracuse, NY which, although costing more in shipping, normally results in a much quicker turn around (days) as little mom&pop repair centers will sometimes hold on to units for several months before returning them.
Alternatively, much less effort would be needed to use headphones to initially test whether it's the AVR or the speakers are at fault. If there's no output to the headphones then it's the AVR at fault.
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Alternatively, much less effort would be needed to use headphones to initially test whether it's the AVR or the speakers are at fault. If there's no output to the headphones then it's the AVR at fault.
I agree that this would be a useful and easy test to do; good thinking. The headphones are driven from the power amp.
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Has anyone with the 7011 (I know I have the 6011 just curious) done the $200 Auro-3D upgrade or heard it/seen it? I mean is there any real reason to do it given the lack of content or is its upmixer just as capable or better than ATMOS/DTSX. I have never heard Auro 3d in person but I am familiar with its original 3 levels of sound and a center voice of god channel but is practical for the current home theater scene.
Auro 3D has been included on Denon/Marantz AVRs since 2014. If no response here, you would be better served posting in the Auro 3D dedicated thread ....

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...r-version.html

Many owners that do a lot of music listening, have generally commented that they prefer using the AuroMatic upmixer for 2CH stereo audio over using Dolby Surround or DTS Neural:X. Otherwise, if most of your listening is TV/movies, then not likely to be as well accepted.
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Before considering repair, try swapping speakers around to confirm the issue is the AVR and not the individual speakers. If the issue persists in the other speakers, you'll want to do several "Resetting the SR6011" as noted in post 5 of this thread. If still no joy, and you purchased the SR6011 "new", it comes with a 3 year warranty so would still be covered, otherwise, if you purchased as a "refurb" then it only comes with a 1 year warranty; however, many credit cards will add 1-2 years extended warranty to the mfr's warranty so check with your credit card issuer to confirm. Lastly, if there is confirmed no warranty coverage, you may want to consider shipping it up to the factory repair center: United Radio, Syracuse, NY which, although costing more in shipping, normally results in a much quicker turn around (days) as little mom&pop repair centers will sometimes hold on to units for several months before returning them.

Thanks for the suggestions. Yes I've already tried resetting a few times to no avail. And it's not my speakers, I hooked up my old non-HDMI Pio Elite AVR and they work fine.

It is a refurb. Too bad I don't live in Upstate NY anymore, would be cheaper to ship to United Radio. Looks like they have GA repair center but only for Automotive electronics. There's a GA one, Norman something or other, but they had several bad reviews. The other one I found was http://www.approvedaudioserve.com in CT, which would be around the same cost for shipping.



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Alternatively, much less effort would be needed to use headphones to initially test whether it's the AVR or the speakers are at fault. If there's no output to the headphones then it's the AVR at fault.
I didn't think about trying that, as no sound is coming from the stereo L/R speakers. Haven't used an old audio headset in years; Finally found a converter in my junk box and tried with my cell phone headset, which there was no sound neither.
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Has anyone with the 7011 (I know I have the 6011 just curious) done the $200 Auro-3D upgrade or heard it/seen it? I mean is there any real reason to do it given the lack of content or is its upmixer just as capable or better than ATMOS/DTSX. I have never heard Auro 3d in person but I am familiar with its original 3 levels of sound and a center voice of god channel but is practical for the current home theater scene.


I have the 7011 as well and it’s a paid upgrade indeed. I’ve done my research, it would be worth it with a minimum of 5.1.4 configuration. I only have a 5.2.2 setup.
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I asked this in the 2015 Denon thread, but jdsmoothie suggested I ask in a 2016 or 2017 thread.

As some of you may know, Sony TVs from 2017 have a weird implementation of Dolby Video support. Do the DV-enabled Marantz receivers support these Sony TVs fully?

I have a Denon 2015 and a Marantz 2015 waiting for the DV update, and have been eyeing some 2017 and 2018 Sony TVs.
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I've got the the SR-7011 and the 2017 OLED Sony TV. The TV does DV just fine from its built in streaming services and the receiver works fine to support the surround sound from the TV. My 4K Sony blu-ray player does not support Dolby Vision. The receiver has HDMI pass through which is how I use it. What is your source for 4k DV videos?

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I've got the the SR-7011 and the 2017 OLED Sony TV. The TV does DV just fine from its built in streaming services and the receiver works fine to support the surround sound from the TV. My 4K Sony blu-ray player does not support Dolby Vision. The receiver has HDMI pass through which is how I use it. What is your source for 4k DV videos?
Right now, nothing. My Panasonic player has just shipped, but won't be getting the DV update until fall.

And I don't have a Sony DV TV either. I was considering one though. My 2015 Marantz doesn't yet have the DV update either yet, but it's supposed to come in August/September. Video path would be:

Panasonic DP-UB820 --> Marantz SR5010 --> Maybe a Sony TV.
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I asked this in the 2015 Denon thread, but jdsmoothie suggested I ask in a 2016 or 2017 thread.

As some of you may know, Sony TVs from 2017 have a weird implementation of Dolby Video support. Do the DV-enabled Marantz receivers support these Sony TVs fully?

I have a Denon 2015 and a Marantz 2015 waiting for the DV update, and have been eyeing some 2017 and 2018 Sony TVs.
I have the SR7011 and a Sony Z9D. It passes DV just fine. The issue wasn't some weird implementation (DV is DV). The issue was that Dolby has different profiles where it's either led by the player or led by the TV (similar whereas audio can be decoded and sent as PCM, or bitstreamed and up for the receiver to decide it). Sony's profile required the player to send it when used from external source via HDMI. Luckily Oppo updated their profile to allow player-led DV.

The receiver just recognizes DV and passes it through, and it doesn't matter on profile.
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I have the SR7011 and a Sony Z9D. It passes DV just fine. The issue wasn't some weird implementation (DV is DV). The issue was that Dolby has different profiles where it's either led by the player or led by the TV (similar whereas audio can be decoded and sent as PCM, or bitstreamed and up for the receiver to decide it). Sony's profile required the player to send it when used from external source via HDMI. Luckily Oppo updated their profile to allow player-led DV.

The receiver just recognizes DV and passes it through, and it doesn't matter on profile.
Good to know, thanks. I can happily shop for Sony TVs.

However, my understanding was the "low latency" profile that Sony uses was developed after the fact specifically for Sony and Sony alone, because their chipsets were not originally developed with Dolby Vision in mind.

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