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I wouldn't describe Yamaha AVR's as "fragile", to the contrary, they are probably the most reliable devices of this sort you can buy. Complex? Feature laden? Yes, most definitely. Most of the features in a 3060 are for movies, however. It wouldn't be my first choice for a dedicated music system. Lots of great (and cheaper) options out there for that.


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Let's hear it for the ENHANCED DSP on the 3060 !

Been watching some older DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO Blu Rays (the movie version of the B'way musical "Les Miserables" among others) and have to say that choosing the ENHANCED DSP over the NEURAL:X upmixer was so much better. When I first chose to upmix with NEURAL:X I have to say I was slightly disappointed until I decided to choose ENHANCED DSP instead of NEURAL:X and what a major difference! The sound was room filling! Quite an expierence!
Very pleased with this ENHANCED DSP only found on the 3060. I have read some posts and many agree with me...Also with native ATMOS Blu Rays in combination with ENHANCED DSP the sound is amazing.
And that is only using a 5.1.2 speaker configuration with DOLBY ENABLED KLIPSCH RP-140SA ELEVATION SPEAKERS (have not yet upgraded to 5.1.4 as of this writing).
I would like to hear some additional observations.
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As a new member I am greatful for all the knowledge this thread provided on setting up my one month old 2060. I've literally spent hours screenshoting point of interest I have benefited from.
Unfortunately, I have one problem even Yamaha customer service has been unable to diagnose. Their answer was clear the unit to factory setting and if that doesn't work, return the unit to retailer. I have searched several hours on these forums with no avail, so I'll throw it out there:
When I set up the unit, I connected to Wifi, downloaded the latest firmware and went on my way. A few days later, after tweaking everything countless hours I noticed the unit was not connected to my home network any longer.
From the set up menu, when I open the "network" set up screen, "Network Connection", "IP Address", "MAC Address filter" and "network name" are effectively "greyed" out. If I attempt to select them, I get a "Not Available" message on screen. My Bluetooth setup screen from set up menu also has
"Bluetooth on/off" greyed out and not selectable. So far I have done the following with no resolution
1) Reset unit completely to factory default
2) Connected unit directly to my network using a Cat5 cable bypassing wireless networks.
3) confirmed my network itself has no security restrictions preventing it from being detected by the 2060.
4) Contacted Yamaha who had no idea why this is occurring and suggested restoring defaults and then returning unit.
5) Attempted to connect to Pandora, Spotify, using "Net" button on remote..("please wait" on screen message appears indefinitely)
6) Confirmed rear antenna is connected firmly and raised. (My Wifi extender is literally 6" away from antenna)

I'm puzzled the unit originally connected without issue and downloaded latest firmware. I'm also puzzled how my Bluetooth is disabled as well.
Does anyone know if I inadvertently disabled ALL network connections? It is not addressed in the 231 page owners manual so I'm assuming it can NOT be completely disabled.
Thank you in advance for any assistance. I hope someday I can return the favor to someone by providing some insight to them.
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I went back and read the Yamaha Manual (Quite hard to digest without the actual kit!) page after page, and it looks to me like you can store settings that were YPAO calibration figures that have been tweaked for personal preference using the Parametric equaliser. Page 122 details 'Scene functions' that can be saved and recalled and on page 123 what settings can be saved (you can select from a list). The last item is 'speaker setup' and it lists 'PEQ select' detailing page 135. Page 135 then details Parametric EQ with 'Manual' as an option. I would have thought that if you currently had manual selected then Scene Save would have to save whatever the manual settings currently are in the Parametric EQ. I.e. if you copied the Auto setup (YPAO) results (as detailed on page 135) edited the gain e.g. + 3dB at say 200Hz Q=1.5 then Scene Save would save all the selected data (including the Parametric EQ tweak) to one of the 4 Available locations on the remote? Can someone please confirm this does work?
Sure if you want to go to all that trouble just to save a few specific settings. I use about 7or 8 Scenes myself. I tend to leave the first four remote accessible Scenes alone as I actually have use for those function (mine are customized versions of the originals). Scene 4 radio is mostly for my wife though I occasionally listen to a local ball game.

OTOH, I thought you were asking about saving Settings on a broader scale. Saving Scene settings are useful for the Scenes if you will use them repeatedly, but for running YPAO then modify or tweak it -- rather than Saving a few pieces, I would think you would want to save your "room configuration". Remember that Save is for capturing the entire set of AVR settings. Scene Save only saves up to that limited set of settings that you want for each Scene -- anywhere from the original 4 checkbox items up to the full set of 10 (although I have yet to have any use for Lip Sync on my AVR).

You can save the 4 "remote accessible" Scenes by setting up your Scene exactly as you want and then press and hold the individual Scene 1-4 button for 3 seconds until the screen message appears. (This by default will only save those first 4 checkbox items -- to save the rest, you must first go into Scene edit Detail and check all the boxes.) You can save the Scene 5 - 12 info by clicking all desired parameters in the desired Scene Detail, then setup your Scene and go into the Scene Save. You'll make a few mistakes, but with several tries it becomes pretty simple though a little tedious.

Edit: In the end, there are just a LOT of Save options.

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Been watching some older DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO Blu Rays (the movie version of the B'way musical "Les Miserables" among others) and have to say that choosing the ENHANCED DSP over the NEURAL:X upmixer was so much better. When I first chose to upmix with NEURAL:X I have to say I was slightly disappointed until I decided to choose ENHANCED DSP instead of NEURAL:X and what a major difference! The sound was room filling! Quite an expierence!
Very pleased with this ENHANCED DSP only found on the 3060. I have read some posts and many agree with me...Also with native ATMOS Blu Rays in combination with ENHANCED DSP the sound is amazing.
And that is only using a 5.1.2 speaker configuration with DOLBY ENABLED KLIPSCH RP-140SA ELEVATION SPEAKERS (have not yet upgraded to 5.1.4 as of this writing).
I would like to hear some additional observations.
Yes, as you know, I fully agree. I also find Enhanced to work similarly with Dolby True HD discs as it does with DTS MA HD -- though the latter may be a little better (?). I haven't checked to see if I have any discs with both Dolby True HD and DTS MA HD for comparison. Not sure such discs exist at all.

I will say that I would have a hard time stating for certain that I have a preference for a disc with DTS:X vs a disc with DTS MA HD + Enhanced DSP. Of course, DTS:X + Enhanced is also possible... Frankly, I just tend to call up the right Scene (appropriate speaker definitions -- thanks again to @PioManiac ) for Atmos or DTS:X (depending on Dolby or DTS encoded disc) and add the Enhanced ESP if it is not already on -- and just get on with enjoying my HT!

I've posted before that the choice of upmixer or DSP is more important for me with music than with movies. I find that the Enhanced DSP tends to "spread" the sound field more than Neural:X -- an effect that, in my room, I don't usually prefer as much. But sometimes I just change to 9-Ch and enjoy that different immersion. So many toys in one "simple" box!

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STOKED! My 3060 should be here in a few days... Can't wait to get everything set up and start to enjoy 7.1.4!!!!!!! Any pro user tips?
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Read the Owners manual and browse this thread in your spare time.
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I might add that you should approach climbing your 3060's learning curve with a lot of patience. When I got my first Yamaha receiver, an RX-V2400, I thought I might die of old age before starting to understand how it worked. You are fortunate that Yamaha's user interface is much better these days than it was then. If you download the owners manual from the Yamaha site, you will be able to do full test searches of any word or phrase you want to find. That feature has been very useful to me.

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I might add that you should approach climbing your 3060's learning curve with a lot of patience. When I got my first Yamaha receiver, an RX-V2400, I thought I might die of old age before starting to understand how it worked. You are fortunate that Yamaha's user interface is much better these days than it was then. If you download the owners manual from the Yamaha site, you will be able to do full test searches of any word or phrase you want to find. That feature has been very useful to me.
Yeah. I'm figure I'll get it set up and running, start enjoying it, then start tweaking over time unless there's something right off the bat I don't like or not hearing... Which I'm not expecting.
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Yeah. I'm figure I'll get it set up and running, start enjoying it, then start tweaking over time unless there's something right off the bat I don't like or not hearing... Which I'm not expecting.
Pro amateur user tip: Run YPAO as soon as you can -- like when you get all your speakers connected. THEN you can enjoy listening and watching while you figure out what it all means. YPAO is pretty much as good as it gets for auto room/speaker setup software -- especially with the 3060.

As @Bond 007 indicated -- everything you need is pretty much already answered in this thread. From the simple to the intensely complex, we've discussed it. The Manual is pretty much a nicety and has ALMOST everything you need. But sometimes they assume you know what you don't know...

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. YPAO is pretty much as good as it gets for auto room/speaker setup software -- especially with the 3060.
The quality and adjustability of YPAO was the major reason I chose Yamaha over Marantz/Dennon. Listening to the units side by side, there was very little difference between the 2. If the Marantz was not minimally set up with feet(delay) and a +1.5 on the center channel, I may have not noticed anything.... who knows?
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Sure if you want to go to all that trouble just to save a few specific settings. I use about 7or 8 Scenes myself. I tend to leave the first four remote accessible Scenes alone as I actually have use for those function (mine are customized versions of the originals). Scene 4 radio is mostly for my wife though I occasionally listen to a local ball game.

OTOH, I thought you were asking about saving Settings on a broader scale. Saving Scene settings are useful for the Scenes if you will use them repeatedly, but for running YPAO then modify or tweak it -- rather than Saving a few pieces, I would think you would want to save your "room configuration". Remember that Save is for capturing the entire set of AVR settings. Scene Save only saves up to that limited set of settings that you want for each Scene -- anywhere from the original 4 checkbox items up to the full set of 10 (although I have yet to have any use for Lip Sync on my AVR).

You can save the 4 "remote accessible" Scenes by setting up your Scene exactly as you want and then press and hold the individual Scene 1-4 button for 3 seconds until the screen message appears. (This by default will only save those first 4 checkbox items -- to save the rest, you must first go into Scene edit Detail and check all the boxes.) You can save the Scene 5 - 12 info by clicking all desired parameters in the desired Scene Detail, then setup your Scene and go into the Scene Save. You'll make a few mistakes, but with several tries it becomes pretty simple though a little tedious.

Edit: In the end, there are just a LOT of Save options.
OK I understand you were explaining saving the whole setup to tweak. I can see that would be useful for some initial setup to get the general sound as you like and I can see myself having a go at that thanks for detailing it. So I take it the scene save does store the manual equaliser settings if manual is selected in the parametric eq settings (Page 135). If so it looks like it's fairly similar to my old RXV3900. It's useful to me so I can quickly select a level of equalisation cut and boost e.g. to tape / 8 track inputs based on the background YPAO curve. I know it works like this on the RXV3900 because in manual mode the YPAO light stays on until you tweak a parametric equaliser value (taking it out of calibration) and it comes back on if you put the manually adjusted gain, frequency or q setting back to what it was. I did have a scene for dynamic range compression as well for listening at night. I didn't realise there were more than 4 scenes available (are these via a menu?). As far as I know only Pioneer and Yamaha allow this type of intervention, everything |I have seen regarding Audyssey implies you can't keep the Audyssey room correction curve, tweak the curve manually and then save it. I'm surprised Yamaha don't make much of this as it surely must highlight a shortcoming in designs that go to an external 3rd party for a room equalisation solution I.e. Audyssey. Pioneer mention it right early as part of their 'Design Philosophy" bullet point 2 "Allow for customised acoustic calibration" in their user manuals.

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As a new member I am greatful for all the knowledge this thread provided on setting up my one month old 2060. I've literally spent hours screenshoting point of interest I have benefited from.
Unfortunately, I have one problem even Yamaha customer service has been unable to diagnose. Their answer was clear the unit to factory setting and if that doesn't work, return the unit to retailer. I have searched several hours on these forums with no avail, so I'll throw it out there:
When I set up the unit, I connected to Wifi, downloaded the latest firmware and went on my way. A few days later, after tweaking everything countless hours I noticed the unit was not connected to my home network any longer.
From the set up menu, when I open the "network" set up screen, "Network Connection", "IP Address", "MAC Address filter" and "network name" are effectively "greyed" out. If I attempt to select them, I get a "Not Available" message on screen. My Bluetooth setup screen from set up menu also has
"Bluetooth on/off" greyed out and not selectable. So far I have done the following with no resolution
1) Reset unit completely to factory default
2) Connected unit directly to my network using a Cat5 cable bypassing wireless networks.
3) confirmed my network itself has no security restrictions preventing it from being detected by the 2060.
4) Contacted Yamaha who had no idea why this is occurring and suggested restoring defaults and then returning unit.
5) Attempted to connect to Pandora, Spotify, using "Net" button on remote..("please wait" on screen message appears indefinitely)
6) Confirmed rear antenna is connected firmly and raised. (My Wifi extender is literally 6" away from antenna)

I'm puzzled the unit originally connected without issue and downloaded latest firmware. I'm also puzzled how my Bluetooth is disabled as well.
Does anyone know if I inadvertently disabled ALL network connections? It is not addressed in the 231 page owners manual so I'm assuming it can NOT be completely disabled.
Thank you in advance for any assistance. I hope someday I can return the favor to someone by providing some insight to them.
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2/13/17 UPDATE -----OK, nevermind. Was advised by retailer the unit would be exchanged. Thank you regardless.
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I've shotgunned through the manuals of both the 1060 and 2060. Am I correct that that I would need to purchase the 2060 in order to configure each sub-woofer independently? That is turn on/off and change volume? The 1060 looks like it treats multiple subs as a single unit?
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I've made my decision to purchase a 2060 and was wondering when do we typically see some discounts off MSRP? Will it be closer to May when the new models are announced? I was hoping to snag one for around $1200 at some point

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I've shotgunned through the manuals of both the 1060 and 2060. Am I correct that that I would need to purchase the 2060 in order to configure each sub-woofer independently? That is turn on/off and change volume? The 1060 looks like it treats multiple subs as a single unit?
Correct. Dual sub EQ is only offered on the A2060 and A3060.
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Hi all,

I have a newbie question for you. I have a 3060 receiver and I just popped in the Movie "Salt" on the Samsung 4k Bluray player. It's a 4K UHD disc. The receiver is reporting "Dolby TrueHD" Audio. Does the receiver ever report "ATMOS" or does it simply call ATMOS--Dolby TrueHD?

I checked the disc audio and there does appear to be an ATMOS track. Just curious as I haven't found a disc yet that get's my receiver to push out ATMOS or DTS-X. Is this because I have a 5.1 setup right now? Is the receiver smart enough to use the TrueHD signal as I don't have the ATMOS speakers setup?




Thanks in advance,

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I have a newbie question for you. I have a 3060 receiver and I just popped in the Movie "Salt" on the Samsung 4k Bluray player. It's a 4K UHD disc. The receiver is reporting "Dolby TrueHD" Audio. Does the receiver ever report "ATMOS" or does it simply call ATMOS--Dolby TrueHD?

I checked the discs audio and there doesn't appear to be an ATMOS track. Just curious as I haven't found a disc yet that get's my receiver to push out ATMOS or DTS-X.

Thanks in advance,

Brian
If a Blu Ray has an ATMOS track then ATMOS will appear on the 3060.....
Provided you have Presence Speakers connected. You don't have to have BOTH Front Presence and Rear Presence speakers connected. One set is enough to have ATMOS. I myself only have 5.1.2 configuration with ONLY Front Presence speakers connected. I will upgrade to 5.1.4 at a later date by adding Rear Presence speakers ALSO----I believe your Blu Ray Player might have to be switched to Bitstream and I believe Secondary Audio must be turned off on your Blu Ray player. By you only having 5.1 configuration the 3060 is indeed "smart enough" to realize you dont have any Presence speakers connected so yes...you are correct, it will simply NOT play ATMOS and simply play DOLBY TRUE HD only.

----If you hit on your 3060 Remote the DISPLAY BUTTON while an ATMOS Blu Ray is being played the info on screen on the left hand side bottom it will say ATMOS/TRUE HD.
----Furthermore if you hit the ON SCREEN BUTTON on your 3060 remote and go to INFORMATION the Input on screen will also say under FORMAT:ATMOS/TRUE HD.
----Furthermore if you press the INFO Button on your 3060 remote...the 3060 front panel will show which AUDIO DECODER is being played and by pressing the INFO Button again the 3060 will show what DSP PROGRAM is being played (this is the SAME info that is stated when pressing DISPLAY BUTTON on your remote and shows it on screen as I stated above).
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Pro amateur user tip: Run YPAO as soon as you can -- like when you get all your speakers connected. THEN you can enjoy listening and watching while you figure out what it all means. YPAO is pretty much as good as it gets for auto room/speaker setup software -- especially with the 3060.

As @Bond 007 indicated -- everything you need is pretty much already answered in this thread. From the simple to the intensely complex, we've discussed it. The Manual is pretty much a nicety and has ALMOST everything you need. But sometimes they assume you know what you don't know...
YPAO on the 3060 is terrific indeed. Recently I moved my sub and reran YPAO. I used the 3 point triangle and pole to measure both 7.1 and 7.1.4 (Angle/Height) settings. I have learned to just accept what YPAO sets everything for. The results have been thrilling. Tonight I watched Hacksaw Ridge. Its Atmos audio is wonderful, both in providing convincing immersive effects and LFE that is visceral.

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OK I understand you were explaining saving the whole setup to tweak. I can see that would be useful for some initial setup to get the general sound as you like and I can see myself having a go at that thanks for detailing it. So I take it the scene save does store the manual equaliser settings if manual is selected in the parametric eq settings (Page 135). If so it looks like it's fairly similar to my old RXV3900. It's useful to me so I can quickly select a level of equalisation cut and boost e.g. to tape / 8 track inputs based on the background YPAO curve. I know it works like this on the RXV3900 because in manual mode the YPAO light stays on until you tweak a parametric equaliser value (taking it out of calibration) and it comes back on if you put the manually adjusted gain, frequency or q setting back to what it was. I did have a scene for dynamic range compression as well for listening at night. I didn't realise there were more than 4 scenes available (are these via a menu?). As far as I know only Pioneer and Yamaha allow this type of intervention, everything |I have seen regarding Audyssey implies you can't keep the Audyssey room correction curve, tweak the curve manually and then save it. I'm surprised Yamaha don't make much of this as it surely must highlight a shortcoming in designs that go to an external 3rd party for a room equalisation solution I.e. Audyssey. Pioneer mention it right early as part of their 'Design Philosophy" bullet point 2 "Allow for customised acoustic calibration" in their user manuals.
What you're asking is beyond me. Hopefully someone else may have thoughts.

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Recently I moved my sub and reran YPAO. I used the 3 point triangle and pole to measure both 7.1 and 7.1.4 (Angle/Height) settings.
The manual is recommend to do the 3 point triangle thing at ear height on a tripod, is this how your doing yours? is there a tripod mount on the bottom? And then what about the pole, do you stick the mic on top of it, on top of the tripod?
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Hi, I wonder if there is anyone have the experience of using the 12V remote trigger of RX-A3060 to control the power on/off of Denon POA-T3 power amp. I found the remote on-off sockets on POA-T3 but its user manual says very little about the electrical requirement to drive that relay.

FYI, I am using the latter to drive my atmos speakers and it is thinking not moving my ass to switch on/off the power amp every time when I watch a movie.
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If a Blu Ray has an ATMOS track then ATMOS will appear on the 3060.....
Provided you have Presence Speakers connected. You don't have to have BOTH Front Presence and Rear Presence speakers connected. One set is enough to have ATMOS. I myself only have 5.1.2 configuration with ONLY Front Presence speakers connected. I will upgrade to 5.1.4 at a later date by adding Rear Presence speakers ALSO----I believe your Blu Ray Player might have to be switched to Bitstream and I believe Secondary Audio must be turned off on your Blu Ray player. By you only having 5.1 configuration the 3060 is indeed "smart enough" to realize you dont have any Presence speakers connected so yes...you are correct, it will simply NOT play ATMOS and simply play DOLBY TRUE HD only.

----If you hit on your 3060 Remote the DISPLAY BUTTON while an ATMOS Blu Ray is being played the info on screen on the left hand side bottom it will say ATMOS/TRUE HD.
----Furthermore if you hit the ON SCREEN BUTTON on your 3060 remote and go to INFORMATION the Input on screen will also say under FORMAT:ATMOS/TRUE HD.
----Furthermore if you press the INFO Button on your 3060 remote...the 3060 front panel will show which AUDIO DECODER is being played and by pressing the INFO Button again the 3060 will show what DSP PROGRAM is being played (this is the SAME info that is stated when pressing DISPLAY BUTTON on your remote and shows it on screen as I stated above).
I remember that you have to put DSP mode to Straight in order to see Dolby Atmos as input format.
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I remember that you have to put DSP mode to Straight in order to see Dolby Atmos as input format.
Not sure if the 3060 is different with its upgraded performance, but on the 2060 it will also display ATMOS with Surround Decode in addition to Straight.

I don't know if this means that the other sound programs are not utilizing the Atmos portion of the TrueHD stream or if it's simply a display anomaly.

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So I take it the scene save does store the manual equaliser settings if manual is selected in the parametric eq settings (Page 135).
Yes.
You also have Pattern 1 and Pattern 2. With these you can save 2 different manual peq settings.
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The manual is recommend to do the 3 point triangle thing at ear height on a tripod, is this how your doing yours? is there a tripod mount on the bottom? And then what about the pole, do you stick the mic on top of it, on top of the tripod?
I sit in a large recliner. With the recliner in its upright position I placed the 3 point triangle and pole on top of the chair back. This made a stable resting place and put the microphone at almost the same height as my ears are when I am watching TV. As noted in my earlier post, the results have pleased me.

All three positions on the 3 point tripod and the the 4th on top of the pole are designed to accept the microphone. I thought the setup was pretty intuitive.
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I happened to have a mic stand from a small PA system so I use a mini boom and adapter. Now I just sit the setup behind the LP on the sofa and the microphone is placed at exactly head position. This little setup has made it so fast and easy. Easier even than using a camera tripod.

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Okay so two questions that I have with this receiver that I hope I didn't miss in the entire thread... If so my apologies...

1. I have the Definitive Technology A90s on top of my front two tower speakers, I have selected in the configuration "Dolby Enabled SP" in the presence speaker layout just based on the description... Should I select the overhead option instead or am I good?

2. I'm running 7.2.2 and I stumbled upon the option in the configuration for the subs that I could have a left/right configuration instead of dual mono (both subs are in the front of the room exactly same distance left/right from the TV with one set to reverse phase to deal with them canceling each other out), which configuration makes more sense? Dual mono or left/right? I know all LFE tracks are not configured for left/right so I don't see what that would do for me...

I do wish that the receiver did proudly display the audio codec that its getting like the older models used to so you didn't have to get into the onscreen menus to know what your receiver was seeing... First world problems I suppose... I do seem to favor the 9ch stereo over the Neutral:X setting FWIW... Still trying to learn this thing as this is my first 7. anything system, much less 7.2.2....

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The manual is recommend to do the 3 point triangle thing at ear height on a tripod, is this how your doing yours? is there a tripod mount on the bottom? And then what about the pole, do you stick the mic on top of it, on top of the tripod?
The post fits into the 3-point base. The base does have a mount. But I just sit it on top of the back of my MLP recliner. Adding a book underneath (under the 3-point, not under the recliner) adds stability. Works great -- never moves while in use. That's all you want.

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Hi, I wonder if there is anyone have the experience of using the 12V remote trigger of RX-A3060 to control the power on/off of Denon POA-T3 power amp. I found the remote on-off sockets on POA-T3 but its user manual says very little about the electrical requirement to drive that relay.

FYI, I am using the latter to drive my atmos speakers and it is thinking not moving my ass to switch on/off the power amp every time when I watch a movie.
The 12V trigger works fine for what you want. The output from these is pretty standard and has worked the same for me for over 20 years with several different pieces of equipment. But it is configurable if needed. I would just try it as is -- there is no appreciable current to do any damage.

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Looks like Pioneer is also now telling owners of certain 2016 AVR models that DV passthrough will be supported:

Post 40867 in Vizio P-series thread

I think it is fair to say that there is no Dolby non-disclosure agreement and that Yamaha is simply behind other manufactures with an official response on possible updates to support DV passthrough for existing models. And they will also be behind if they decide not to provide an update or are unable.

Edit: In that post there is a link to a Sound&Vision Q&A regarding a Pioneer AVR. S&V apparently got this quote directly from Dolby regarding DV passthrough:

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“Dolby Vision can technically be routed through any equipment starting at v1.4.b and above, however, the device needs to be aware of the kind of signal properties that differentiate Dolby Vision from a standard SDR signal. To this effect, we have issued a compatibility SDK that several manufacturers have already used to obtain pass-through compatibility on upcoming products. Compatibility on existing products is something that could possibly achieved as well, but is of course at the discretion of each manufacturer/OEM.”
Read more at http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...C3E8jvSi7lZ.99
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Based on the following German release, looks like the 2016 Denon and Marantz models will be getting a Dolby Vision and HLG firmware update either end of 2017 or early 2018, so possibly Yamaha will be able to release a similar update for these 2016 models as well.

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...e-3614979.html

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