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Maybe but this is what the setting are like in the pana. see picture.
The 3rd pictur is when the pana is directly connected to the JVC.

I have ordered 3x3ft and 1x30ft of those cable you recommend, I will see if that help. the 4th picture show the cable I have today.
It tells you right on the Panasonic setting screen that 4:2:2 will be output at 60Hz.
In any case, 30ft is pushing the limit for 4K HDR. Some folks go with optical cables at that length.
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The "Official" Yamaha RX-A1060, RX-A2060 and RX-A3060 AVENTAGE AVR Thread

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Maybe but this is what the setting are like in the pana. see picture.

The 3rd pictur is when the pana is directly connected to the JVC.



I have ordered 3x3ft and 1x30ft of those cable you recommend, I will see if that help. the 4th picture show the cable I have today.
It’s your cables. Anything over 25’ must be an active cable. Also, there are no certified cables over 25’ - so if the cable you ordered is 30’, then it’s not certified and if it’s not active, it’s likely not going to work.
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It’s your cables. Anything over 25’ must be an active cable. Also, there are no certified cables over 25’ - so if the cable you ordered is 30’, then it’s not certified and if it’s not active, it’s likely not going to work.
My Monster Black Ultimate of 10m (33ft) is ACTIVE. but not the one of 1,5m (5ft).
Those Monoprice cable I ordered ARE certified so we will see.

Fiber cable HDMI ? Any good advice ?
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My Monster Black Ultimate of 10m (33ft) is ACTIVE. but not the one of 1,5m (5ft).
The one you pictured above? I don’t see that.

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The one you pictured above? I don’t see that.
You may be right, I can't see ACTIVE anywhere on it. But it as a one direction, I was matbe a bit fast to conclude that it was ACTIVE because of that

Anyway the Monoprice Cable are supposed to be deliver on monday so I will try and see.

What is strange to me, is that if I connect the player with my 10m Monster cable direct to the projector, I got perfect 4K 60hz HDR picture.
But if I connect the player to the Yamaha with a 1.5m Monster Cable and so from my Yamaha to the projector using that same 10m Monster Cable, I have a black screen when trying to send 4k 60hz HDR.
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You may be right, I can't see ACTIVE anywhere on it. But it as a one direction, I was matbe a bit fast to conclude that it was ACTIVE because of that

Anyway the Monoprice Cable are supposed to be deliver on monday so I will try and see.

What is strange to me, is that if I connect the player with my 10m Monster cable direct to the projector, I got perfect 4K 60hz HDR picture.
But if I connect the player to the Yamaha with a 1.5m Monster Cable and so from my Yamaha to the projector using that same 10m Monster Cable, I have a black screen when trying to send 4k 60hz HDR.
The extra 1.5m and/or the Yamaha pass through is/are the "straw(s) that break the camels back".

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My Monster Black Ultimate of 10m (33ft) is ACTIVE. but not the one of 1,5m (5ft).

Those Monoprice cable I ordered ARE certified so we will see.



Fiber cable HDMI ? Any good advice ?

If it’s active then it’s not certified. If it’s over 25 feet then it’s not certified. The Monster cable is not certified. People have had good luck with Ruipro fiber. There’s a whole thread on the HDMI forum on long cable lengths and support.
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But if I connect the player to the Yamaha with a 1.5m Monster Cable and so from my Yamaha to the projector using that same 10m Monster Cable, I have a black screen when trying to send 4k 60hz HDR.
Just get a Ruipro fiber cable and be done with it. Seriously.

Long and HDMI and 4K and HDR is not a good combination for conventional cables. Put an AVR in the mix as an additional device and it only gets worse.

FWIW, I also went through several long cables, including a different fiber, but the Ruipro worked like magic with both 4K 60Hz HDR (Roku) and 4K 60Hz Dolby Vision (AppleTV).

p.s. If I missed it in this cable discussion, I apologize, but also verify that the Yamaha's ADVANCED SETUP menu has 4K MODE set to MODE 1 (MODE 2 is default) for 4K 60Hz HDR.
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Happy Friday Gents, just a quick question, I have my RX-A2060 connected to a Polk Surroundbar 50 (it's a 5.1 soundbar) along with some Polk satellites for Front Presence (Atmos) and Rear Surround. I'm looking to get more center channel sound as the center speaker in the soundbar isnt cuttin it despite having the Level set to "10".

Is there anything wrong with wiring another center channel speaker in parrallel along with the soundbar to the RX-A2060?

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I wouldn't wire in parallel, I'd wire up another center channel speaker *instead* of the one in the sound bar if you're sure that you can't get any more reasonable output from it.
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Happy Friday Gents, just a quick question, I have my RX-A2060 connected to a Polk Surroundbar 50 (it's a 5.1 soundbar) along with some Polk satellites for Front Presence (Atmos) and Rear Surround. I'm looking to get more center channel sound as the center speaker in the soundbar isnt cuttin it despite having the Level set to "10".

Is there anything wrong with wiring another center channel speaker in parrallel along with the soundbar to the RX-A2060?
Ditto jcmiccorm, wiring speakers in parallel (particularly with a multichannel soundbar) sounds like a disaster.

Unless you mean put a powered speaker on a PRE OUT while a passive speaker is wired to a Speaker OUT terminal. You'd have to give us more wiring info (sorry, I'm not looking up your hardware specs).

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Just downloaded a new update. Does anyone know what it contains?
What is the version?

FWIW, the latest version on Yamaha's support website is 2.60 and was released last October.
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Just picked up a refurbished 3060. I want to test it in a way that does not damage it.


If I hook up only one speaker to the left channel, play it to make sure that channel works, then unhook it and plug it into the right channel (and repeat till all channels are tested,) does it damage the amp if there are no other speakers connected to the rest of the outputs while testing one channel at a time?

I'm trying to avoid completely unhooking all the wires to my current receiver and moving all these heavy receivers around since the Yamaha 3060 won't be replacing my current receiver till sometime in May (when my calibrator arrives to connect it and fully calibrate the audio.)


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What is the version?

FWIW, the latest version on Yamaha's support website is 2.60 and was released last October.
Hey thanks! I noticed one of the updates offers an improvement in DSD file playback.

I don't know if that means from SACDs or a DSD file from a memory stick. In any case, thanks for the info.

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does it damage the amp if there are no other speakers connected to the rest of the outputs while testing one channel at a time?
no!

just be careful to not short circuit the wires incl. touching the "hot" (red) one with the chassis when attaching them to the AVR especially if the are somehow frayed out after so many changes.
I would attach banana plugs, 1 time effort for 9 cycles...
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Ditto jcmiccorm, wiring speakers in parallel (particularly with a multichannel soundbar) sounds like a disaster.

Unless you mean put a powered speaker on a PRE OUT while a passive speaker is wired to a Speaker OUT terminal. You'd have to give us more wiring info (sorry, I'm not looking up your hardware specs).

Thanks for the response. I simply hooked a a passive center speaker (Bose VCS 10) in parallel to the same center output that the sound bar is hooked up to. So now I am getting center audio from both speakers. I can honestly say it does sound better and the dialog is louder and more clear which was my goal.

I just wanted to confirm that I'm not damaging the 2060 in any way. Thanks again!

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no!

just be careful to not short circuit the wires incl. touching the "hot" (red) one with the chassis when attaching them to the AVR especially if the are somehow frayed out after so many changes.
I would attach banana plugs, 1 time effort for 9 cycles...

Thanks. the wires have banana plugs just so you know.

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Does anyone know what the improvement is for the latest update on the part that says "offers an improvement in DSD file playback."

I can speculate, but I'd like for someone who really knows to ring in. Another words, what part of it used to be bad and is now improved?

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Thanks for the response. I simply hooked a a passive center speaker (Bose VCS 10) in parallel to the same center output that the sound bar is hooked up to. So now I am getting center audio from both speakers. I can honestly say it does sound better and the dialog is louder and more clear which was my goal.

I just wanted to confirm that I'm not damaging the 2060 in any way. Thanks again!
Bad idea, your amp is not designed for multiple speakers hooked to the same speaker output (parallel, or series). You could be doing damage.

Follow the owner’s manual instructions as a baseline.

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Bad idea, your amp is not designed for multiple speakers hooked to the same speaker output (parallel, or series). You could be doing damage.

Follow the owner’s manual instructions as a baseline.
I'm pretty sure that his soundbar has a line-level input for the center so he's using the pre-out for the soundbar and the speaker-level output for the new center speaker. Should be fine if that's the case.
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Good news and possible bad news. (Bought the Yamaha 3060 refurbished though has a dent on the top right metal area.) So I'm testing it out to make sure it works.

First the good news. I just tested out all the audio channels with one speaker and they all work with a Blu-ray movie as the audio source. All the input selections work (via the big round knob on the front) and video gets passed through to my Pioneer PRO-151FD.

Now for the bad news...At one point while pressing some buttons on the remote; a information screen appeared on my display. (At this point, I do not know if pushing any buttons on the remote caused this message) It reads...

"! BD Player

HDMI settings are reset because a new HDMI device is connected.
It is recommended to execute the setup navigator from the setup screen to change HDMI settings.
Press display to clear this message."

I keep pushing "display" to clear the message, but it never goes away. I tried unhooking the BD player and reconnecting it. I've tried switching the HDMI input the BD player is connected to and I still get the same message. I've turned off and on the receiver and it's still there.

Just for the heck of it, even updated the software to the latest (that was easier than I thought it would be.) My Yamaha 3060 came with 1.08 and now it has a firmware version of 2.6, but I'm still getting the message.

I've tried searching the manual and the internet to find anything about that message, but couldn't find anything.

I'm sure it's something simple, but I can't figure out how to clear the on screen message.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Good news and possible bad news. (Bought the Yamaha 3060 refurbished though has a dent on the top right metal area.) So I'm testing it out to make sure it works.

First the good news. I just tested out all the audio channels with one speaker and they all work with a Blu-ray movie as the audio source. All the input selections work (via the big round knob on the front) and video gets passed through to my Pioneer PRO-151FD.

Now for the bad news...At one point while pressing some buttons on the remote; a information screen appeared on my display. (At this point, I do not know if pushing any buttons on the remote caused this message) It reads...

"! BD Player

HDMI settings are reset because a new HDMI device is connected.
It is recommended to execute the setup navigator from the setup screen to change HDMI settings.
Press display to clear this message."

I keep pushing "display" to clear the message, but it never goes away. I tried unhooking the BD player and reconnecting it. I've tried switching the HDMI input the BD player is connected to and I still get the same message. I've turned off and on the receiver and it's still there.

Just for the heck of it, even updated the software to the latest (that was easier than I thought it would be.) My Yamaha 3060 came with 1.08 and now it has a firmware version of 2.6, but I'm still getting the message.

I've tried searching the manual and the internet to find anything about that message, but couldn't find anything.

I'm sure it's something simple, but I can't figure out how to clear the on screen message.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Sounds like it could be a HDMI-CEC message that the Yamaha is getting from the BD player. The BD player is actually sending this info out across HDMI. You should be able to change and rename the input to whatever you want.
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Wow, that was a fast response particularly for this time in the morning. (It's about 4am here!)

Well, you fixed it! I went to the Blu-ray player's remote and hit "display" and it went away!

Thanks for the help, everything seems to be fine now!
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Wow, that was a fast response particularly for this time in the morning. (It's about 4am here!)

Well, you fixed it! I went to the Blu-ray player's remote and hit "display" and it went away!

Thanks for the help, everything seems to be fine now!

You're welcome.


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The 3060 is a great AV receiver. From my perspective, it was the first to 'tick all the essential boxes', namely:


1. Dolby Vision passthrough
2. 64 bit YPAO
3. Dolby Atmos
4. DTS-X
5. Ability to overlay Yamaha DSP effects on Atmos/DTS-X signals

6. 7.2.4 capability (with external 2 channel amp)

Amazing! A question though, I did buy a new Blu-ray player (though I'm not hooking it as of yet) the Panasonic DP-UB820 which has HDR+. I know the Yamaha has HDR passthrough, but would that also work with HDR+? (Not really important though since I won't be upgrading my current display for sometime.)

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Another little tidbit,

I started to unhook the HDMI cables to put them back onto my older receiver, but before doing so, I first turned off the Yamaha 3060 and the picture went off as expected. Then to my surprise the picture returned. Of course there was no audio, but I guess I learned the hard way the Yamaha 3060 still passes through the video when it's turned off.

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The "Official" Yamaha RX-A1060, RX-A2060 and RX-A3060 AVENTAGE AVR Thread

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I'm pretty sure that his soundbar has a line-level input for the center so he's using the pre-out for the soundbar and the speaker-level output for the new center speaker. Should be fine if that's the case.
Yes, I concur, but that’s not what he said. So probably has to check his terminology, or enlighten us as to his wiring specifics.

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Another little tidbit,
I started to unhook the HDMI cables to put them back onto my older receiver, but before doing so, I first turned off the Yamaha 3060 and the picture went off as expected. Then to my surprise the picture returned. Of course there was no audio, but I guess I learned the hard way the Yamaha 3060 still passes through the video when it's turned off.
Probably still had it plugged in, and “standby pass through” was enabled. I suggest some armchair time with the manual.

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You're welcome.


The 3060 is a great AV receiver. From my perspective, it was the first to 'tick all the essential boxes', namely:


1. Dolby Vision passthrough
2. 64 bit YPAO
3. Dolby Atmos
4. DTS-X
5. Ability to overlay Yamaha DSP effects on Atmos/DTS-X signals

6. 7.2.4 capability (with external 2 channel amp)


Great summary, and I agree 100%. There’s really no need to update it either, since it already has all these capabilities and should serve us well for quite awhile yet.


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Yes, I concur, but that’s not what he said. So probably has to check his terminology, or enlighten us as to his wiring specifics.

Probably still had it plugged in, and “standby pass through” was enabled. I suggest some armchair time with the manual.
Yep, it was still plugged in, but I'm not used to anything working when something is turned off! By the way, once it's permanently hooked up; it will always be on. My current receiver I've had for 10 years has never been turned off...except of course once every two or three years or so if the electricity goes out.

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