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Help with an inexpensive 5.1.4 solution

I'm very very new to home theater. I am interested in setting up a 5.1.4 Atmos system. From my understanding I need a 9 channel receiver. However as you know, there is a significant price jump between a 7.1 and 9.1 system. Is there a cheaper way of doing this. I've read a couple articles where someone has used an amp for the last two channels. Is this possible? Can I use an amp with any reciever to get that setup? I was looking at a Marantz NR1606 because I can get a deal on it. But I don't know if there is a way to "expand" it.

Help and advice is appreciated.
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I'm very very new to home theater. I am interested in setting up a 5.1.4 Atmos system. From my understanding I need a 9 channel receiver. However as you know, there is a significant price jump between a 7.1 and 9.1 system. Is there a cheaper way of doing this. I've read a couple articles where someone has used an amp for the last two channels. Is this possible? Can I use an amp with any reciever to get that setup? I was looking at a Marantz NR1606 because I can get a deal on it. But I don't know if there is a way to "expand" it.

Help and advice is appreciated.
You need a 7 channel AVR with 9 or more pre-outs and the ability to process 9 channels. The Denon 4200 can do this. I'm sure there are others but none of them are going to be what I would call inexpensive.

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You need a 7 channel AVR with 9 or more pre-outs and the ability to process 9 channels. The Denon 4200 can do this. I'm sure there are others but none of them are going to be what I would call inexpensive.
OK so in that example I would need the Denon 4200 AND an external amp? Looks like the cost would be similar to a 9 channel receiver.
If I decide to shop for an amp is there something specific I should be looking for? I'm not even sure how big of an amp to get.
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OK so in that example I would need the Denon 4200 AND an external amp? Looks like the cost would be similar to a 9 channel receiver.
If I decide to shop for an amp is there something specific I should be looking for? I'm not even sure how big of an amp to get.
Many use inexpensive 2 channel amps that can be found for $50 or so. Or at least under $100.

Here's a list from Crutchfield to give you and idea.

The Marantz 7009 seems like a particularly good deal. Don't think it can be upgraded for DTS-X though.

http://www.crutchfield.com/g_10420/H...r_Of_Channels|[rank009.00]9

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Many use inexpensive 2 channel amps that can be found for $50 or so. Or at least under $100.

Here's a list from Crutchfield to give you and idea.

The Marantz 7009 seems like a particularly good deal. Don't think it can be upgraded for DTS-X though.
It can't. It also can't pass 4K UHD HDR video, which requires HDCP v2.2. For some people, though, those limitations are irrelevant.

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I'm very very new to home theater. I am interested in setting up a 5.1.4 Atmos system. From my understanding I need a 9 channel receiver. However as you know, there is a significant price jump between a 7.1 and 9.1 system. Is there a cheaper way of doing this. I've read a couple articles where someone has used an amp for the last two channels. Is this possible? Can I use an amp with any reciever to get that setup? I was looking at a Marantz NR1606 because I can get a deal on it. But I don't know if there is a way to "expand" it.

Help and advice is appreciated.
No. The only 2015 7CH models that can expand to 5.1.4 are the Denon X4200W and Marantz SR6010.
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I'm a cheap SOB and I've got a super cheap way to get 5.1.4.

Get a Pioneer SC85/87 off of Ebay. I got one for 600 bones and it does 9.1/5.1.4/7.2.2. It does Dolby Atmos, but not DTS-x.
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No. The only 2015 7CH models that can expand to 5.1.4 are the Denon X4200W and Marantz SR6010.
Jd cant he still find a X5200 to solve the problem as the pricing on that is the same as the 4200 and has 9 channels. Assuming there are still some out there?
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I'm a cheap SOB and I've got a super cheap way to get 5.1.4.

Get a Pioneer SC85/87 off of Ebay. I got one for 600 bones and it does 9.1/5.1.4/7.2.2. It does Dolby Atmos, but not DTS-x.
I may consider that since I'm trying to save some cash. I know having DTS-X is more future proof, but I think that would get me by long enough until I have a significant amount of DTS-X content. I assume no HDCP 2.2. But again, I think I could wait on that.
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Jd cant he still find a X5200 to solve the problem as the pricing on that is the same as the 4200 and has 9 channels. Assuming there are still some out there?
Yup.
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