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post #421 of 1989 Old 04-27-2017, 09:02 AM
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Thanks much for the input.

As you can see from my signature (spoiler), I have a Denon X6300H. While it does a good job it feels like I am missing something. Can't put my finger on it but am in the mood to upgrade.

Thanks again.
I actually missed that! Of course I meant no disrespect. I would love to hear your opinion if you go for the 901 or 801 route from the 6300. It was a very hard choice for me. I was set on Denon before I went to Magnolia to demo. The rep raved about Pioneer's use of SABRE DACs and the advantages of class D amplification. I felt that the clarity of the Pioneer was far superior. There is some posts about this above. I also started a Pioneer 701 V.S. Denon 4300 thread you may want to try and bring back to life. Good info on the 801/901 & 6300 in there as well. Best wishes on the upgrade. Keep us posted!
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I actually missed that! Of course I meant no disrespect. I would love you hear your opinion if you go for the 901 or 801 route from the 6300. It was a very hard choice for me. I was set on Denon before I went to Magnolia to demo. The rep raved about Pioneer's use of SABRE DACs and the advantages of class D amplification. I felt that the clarity of the Pioneer was far superior. There is some posts about this above. I also started a Pioneer 901 Vs Denon thread you may want to try and bring back to life. Good info in there too. Best wishes on the upgrade. Keep us posted.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...-deciding.html
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Here is the one I started:

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Thank you very much for the links.

I have decided to go ahead and get the LX901. One thing going for me is that if I find I don't like it I can always give it to me son. He has a birthday coming up and could use an upgrade of his AVR.

Thanks again for the help.

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I actually missed that! Of course I meant no disrespect. I would love to hear your opinion if you go for the 901 or 801 route from the 6300. It was a very hard choice for me. I was set on Denon before I went to Magnolia to demo. The rep raved about Pioneer's use of SABRE DACs and the advantages of class D amplification. I felt that the clarity of the Pioneer was far superior. There is some posts about this above. I also started a Pioneer 701 V.S. Denon 4300 thread you may want to try and bring back to life. Good info on the 801/901 & 6300 in there as well. Best wishes on the upgrade. Keep us posted!
I assure you no disrespect taken. Just wanted to point out what I currently had in my system.

Like I noted, the 6300 is a good receiver, but there is something about it that just does not float my boat. Also, I think something might be going on with it because it seems like the longer I go on with it the more often I have to do resets for totally different things. Lose audit, lose video, something not working as it should. Had problems with the recent firmware update. Even though I don't use it, I had to download the Heos app and install it to get the 6300 working again.

Anyway, thought now was a good time to try something different and decided to go with the Pioneer. Had luck with the brand in the past and wanted to give it a try again.

Thanks again for the info.

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Does anyone know what the new firmware update did? I would love to know when the dolby vision support is coming!?
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Does anyone know what the new firmware update did? I would love to know when the dolby vision support is coming!?


Latest update enabled chromecast, Dolby vision etc no news at all.

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Latest update enabled chromecast, Dolby vision etc no news at all.
Is there anything that Chromecast can do that Airplay cannot? Just curious to maximize the features on the 701.
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Anyone experienced a lock up on Bluetooth and Net inputs. On Pioneer Remote App, net station is stuck on old Sirius XM Bluetooth stream channel I was using from phone and can't get it to connect or play from Pandora anymore...

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Anyone experienced a lock up on Bluetooth and Net inputs. On Pioneer Remote App, net station is stuck on old Sirius XM Bluetooth stream channel I was using from phone and can't get it to connect or play from Pandora anymore...

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Seems there was an update waiting and likely that was issue. Updated and now we have Chromecast support! Anyone using this with Google Home? Wondering when Home will be able to control inputs and zones, or if I am using incorrect syntax in request?

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I'm reluctant to update the firmware on my SC-LX801. When I did so with the 701, I always ended up with a pop sound that was made when switching inputs.

Can anyone confirm the update for the 801 went smoothly with the latest firmware update and there is no pop sound when switching inputs via the remove, the knob or the iPad app?
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I have question about speaker configuration, specifically for Dolby Atmos.

I want to use my new Definitive Technology BP9060, with their Dolby Atmos A90 tops, for my front and height speakers.

For my surround and rear heights, I want to use the Definitive Technology SR9080 for surround and the SR9040 for the heights. BUT, those will not be in a 'reflective' mode for the setup, but instead will be just top heights in the rear.

Does the Pioneer allow for this kind of configuration, or am I forced to use the same type of Atmos configuration from the front the the back?

I really don't have the space for floor standing towers in the rear of the room- so going that route for my surrounds with another pair of A90's just isn't really feasible.
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I have question about speaker configuration, specifically for Dolby Atmos.



I want to use my new Definitive Technology BP9060, with their Dolby Atmos A90 tops, for my front and height speakers.



For my surround and rear heights, I want to use the Definitive Technology SR9080 for surround and the SR9040 for the heights. BUT, those will not be in a 'reflective' mode for the setup, but instead will be just top heights in the rear.



Does the Pioneer allow for this kind of configuration, or am I forced to use the same type of Atmos configuration from the front the the back?



I really don't have the space for floor standing towers in the rear of the room- so going that route for my surrounds with another pair of A90's just isn't really feasible.


Yes pioneer allows you to use rear and or front Heights with any combination of front ceiling, middle ceiling or rear ceiling or reflective combination. Atmos may not work without assigning rear surrounds though.

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I'm reluctant to update the firmware on my SC-LX801. When I did so with the 701, I always ended up with a pop sound that was made when switching inputs.



Can anyone confirm the update for the 801 went smoothly with the latest firmware update and there is no pop sound when switching inputs via the remove, the knob or the iPad app?


I updated my 801 today everything flawless no popping sounds


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I updated my 801 today everything flawless no popping sounds


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Thanks- do you happen to know what added features or improvements were made with the latest firmware? Does Pioneer publish such a document?
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Thanks- do you happen to know what added features or improvements were made with the latest firmware? Does Pioneer publish such a document?


I can also confirm I am enjoying my 801 with the latest firmware. Flawless...
as for change log (from Pioneer EU site):

CHANGE HISTORY:
Version 2069-0000-1010-0008
- Adds support for Chromecast built-in.
*Chromecast-enabled applications is required to enjoy Chromecast built-in.
*As an initial setting, before starting to use Chromecast built-in, you need to accept the PRIVACY POLICY on
oursmartphone application "Pioneer Remote App".
For more detailed information, Please refer to below. http://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/ma...mecast_pio.pdf
- Minor bug fixes and performance improvements.
Note:
If Bluetooth devices were previously paired, you must pair the devices again after the Firmware update is complete.


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I can also confirm I am enjoying my 801 with the latest firmware. Flawless...
as for change log (from Pioneer EU site):

CHANGE HISTORY:
Version 2069-0000-1010-0008
- Adds support for Chromecast built-in.
*Chromecast-enabled applications is required to enjoy Chromecast built-in.
*As an initial setting, before starting to use Chromecast built-in, you need to accept the PRIVACY POLICY on
oursmartphone application "Pioneer Remote App".
For more detailed information, Please refer to below. http://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/ma...mecast_pio.pdf
- Minor bug fixes and performance improvements.
Note:
If Bluetooth devices were previously paired, you must pair the devices again after the Firmware update is complete.


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Updated my firmware. No issues. Still don't see how to use Chromecast very well- my 801 doesn't seem to show up on the Chromecast list- though my TV does.
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I updated my 801 today everything flawless no popping sounds


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I can also confirm I am enjoying my 801 with the latest firmware. Flawless...
as for change log (from Pioneer EU site):

CHANGE HISTORY:
Version 2069-0000-1010-0008
- Adds support for Chromecast built-in.
*Chromecast-enabled applications is required to enjoy Chromecast built-in.
*As an initial setting, before starting to use Chromecast built-in, you need to accept the PRIVACY POLICY on
oursmartphone application "Pioneer Remote App".
For more detailed information, Please refer to below. http://jp.pioneer-audiovisual.com/ma...mecast_pio.pdf
- Minor bug fixes and performance improvements.
Note:
If Bluetooth devices were previously paired, you must pair the devices again after the Firmware update is complete.


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Thanks guys! I was also hesitant to update my 801 since I haven't been having any problems with it. However it did experience a terrible slowdown on the NET menu (for music/DLNA streaming) a power disconnect fixed that issue, but it may be in the bug fixes in this firmware. It's great to see that Pioneer is still on top of things.
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Received and installed my new LX901 receiver today. Really happy with the results so far.

Ran the speaker setup and the final results I think are excellent! Sound as good if not better than my X6300H sounded.

I may have to run setup again because I seem to be having an issue with my sources. When I go into System Setup and select Input/output Assign, HDMI Input, it only shows the first 4 HDMI inputs. However, during setup, I installed 6 HDMI sources. Is there some way I can have HDMI 5 and 6 show up in the HDMI Input screen? Or, maybe I messed up when doing those inputs by accidentally choosing No instead of Yes?

One other thing is that choices for making changes to settings in various areas concerned with Audio and especially Video are a bit lean as compared to the different adjustments I could make with my Denon X6300H. HOWEVER, the end result I have with the 901 more than makes up for this minor negative. The sound I think is great and I could swear that the video output is better. May be wishful thinking in both areas, but at the very least I am extremely happy with this receiver.

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Received and installed my new LX901 receiver today. Really happy with the results so far.



Ran the speaker setup and the final results I think are excellent! Sound as good if not better than my X6300H sounded.



I may have to run setup again because I seem to be having an issue with my sources. When I go into System Setup and select Input/output Assign, HDMI Input, it only shows the first 4 HDMI inputs. However, during setup, I installed 6 HDMI sources. Is there some way I can have HDMI 5 and 6 show up in the HDMI Input screen? Or, maybe I messed up when doing those inputs by accidentally choosing No instead of Yes?



One other thing is that choices for making changes to settings in various areas concerned with Audio and especially Video are a bit lean as compared to the different adjustments I could make with my Denon X6300H. HOWEVER, the end result I have with the 901 more than makes up for this minor negative. The sound I think is great and I could swear that the video output is better. May be wishful thinking in both areas, but at the very least I am extremely happy with this receiver.


Try setting up the inputs through the AV Control app if you can. If I remember correctly that is how I set up the rest of the inputs


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Try setting up the inputs through the AV Control app if you can. If I remember correctly that is how I set up the rest of the inputs


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Thank you for the suggestion. Is there a certain app that you can suggest. Doing a search in the Google Play store brings up quite a few.

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While I was at it should have mentioned that the more I am getting familiar with the 901, the more selections I am finding. Just have to remember where to find them.

I can never remember the speaker calibration program that Pioneer uses, something like MCAAC, but I think it did a terrific job of setting up my speakers. Don't know why people seem to think it is not very good. Certainly worked for me and my jumbled living room setting.

Thanks again for the help.

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Like I noted, the 6300 is a good receiver, but there is something about it that just does not float my boat.
Just wanted to mention I had a similar experience while auditioning a 6300 and Onkyo 1100(3100) last year in my home. After about a week of critical listening (music & movies) to both AVRs, I had a greater preference for the 1100. The 6300 had far more "nice to have" features but IMO the 1100 had superior sound quality. The 1100 exhibited better dynamics, clarity, and definition. For me, this was true with and w/o room correction in both cases.

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Also, I think something might be going on with it because it seems like the longer I go on with it the more often I have to do resets for totally different things. Lose audit, lose video, something not working as it should. Had problems with the recent firmware update. Even though I don't use it, I had to download the Heos app and install it to get the 6300 working again.
It's no secret that there are an "overwhelming" number of D+M owners and therefore an "overwhelming" number of D+M posts on these threads. By default, there are "overwhelming" numbers of questions, queries, and issues. I've always found it unusual/odd that an "overwhelming" number of issues arise that require a "reset" both soft and hard. And even advice that advises "resetting" as many as 5 times in a row to be necessary for resolving some issues. Resetting is a fairly common solution when CPU's go into indeterminate states. However, in all the AVRs and CPU based electronics I've ever owned over the years...none required resetting as often for as many issues as has been encountered with Denon AVRs...just my observation. YMMV

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Received and installed my new LX901 receiver today. Really happy with the results so far....Ran the speaker setup and the final results I think are excellent! Sound as good if not better than my X6300H sounded....The sound I think is great and I could swear that the video output is better. May be wishful thinking in both areas, but at the very least I am extremely happy with this receiver.
My experience and impressions with the Onkyo 1100 compared to the 6300 exactly!

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I can never remember the speaker calibration program that Pioneer uses, something like MCAAC, but I think it did a terrific job of setting up my speakers. Don't know why people seem to think it is not very good. Certainly worked for me and my jumbled living room setting.
Easy answer: Because of the "overwhelming" number of D+M owners, by default, there are a large number of Audyssey fans. Consequently, Audyssey is believed to be a "must have" and other room correction systems take a back seat. IMO, many owners have only experienced Audyssey and nothing else. The other epiphany is that not all rooms require or benefit from RC.

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Hi guys,

Onkyo RZ1100 owner here. (former Pio SC owner)

Just thought I'd chime in that the firmware build numbers and features appear to be the same! (obviously slightly different, MCACC (which is what AccuEQ now is), pioneer branding, etc) but you see where I am going

http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...tx-rz1100.html

Latest Firmware Number (16 digits):2069-0000-1010-0008



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It might be a placebo, but I have had no 4K sync issues or bugs since updating to the new firmware with my LG G6 OLED, Oppo, PS4 Pro or Xbox One S.
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Anyone running 2 subs with the LX701, and if so, do you need extra power to be added for a 5.2.4 configuration to be effective? I find the LX701 crisp and clear, but lacking in the overall bass area.
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Anyone running 2 subs with the LX701, and if so, do you need extra power to be added for a 5.2.4 configuration to be effective? I find the LX701 crisp and clear, but lacking in the overall bass area.
Good morning,

I am currently running 5.2.2. I am utilizing the 10" subs in my Def. Tech. 8060's. So far everything sounds great. Bass is present, clear and big when needed. I do have the 801 however, so I do have more power from the jump.

I noticed improvement after upgrading from a trashy RCA cords to Audioquest Irish Red Sub-woofer cables. Pricey but worth consideration.

I am putting up the rear ceiling speakers today after work. SO EXCITED! I will let you know how it goes.

Side note for Grandmaison:

No pooping sounds what-so-ever after the addition of the first two ceiling speakers. New firmware is running fine. I did have some handshake issues yesterday with my Oppo 203. Video and no audio issue. Turning off all the equipment solved the issue. I have not been forced to hard reset the receiver for any reason yet.

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Hi guys,

Onkyo RZ1100 owner here. (former Pio SC owner)

Just thought I'd chime in that the firmware build numbers and features appear to be the same! (obviously slightly different, MCACC (which is what AccuEQ now is), pioneer branding, etc) but you see where I am going

http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/fi...tx-rz1100.html

Latest Firmware Number (16 digits):2069-0000-1010-0008



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Yep...since seeing the internal and rear panel pictures of the 901 and 3100 and 801 and 1100 early last year, there were strong suggestions/indications that these were similar if not identical models. Now that FW upgrade numbers for the 801 and 901 are the same for the 1100 and 3100 is very strong evidence that these models are identical. As you suggest, the only differences are likely front panel design/configuration and possibly DACs. This also reinforces the fact that @RetiredandLovingIt and I found the 901 and 1100/3100 sound quality similarly more pleasing than the 6300. If this is true, this then begs the question: How much longer can these products sustain separate identities? When corporations merge, it's inevitable that redundancy (resources, processes, products, etc.) will be eliminated...interesting times ahead.

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..... This also reinforces the fact that @RetiredandLovingIt and I found the 901 and 1100/3100 sound quality similarly more pleasing than the 6300. ....
Not to keep harping on this, but after a good day and a bit more of listening to my new receiver, I am appreciating the audio even more. The speaker setup routine did a much better job than Audyssey ever did. After running Audyssey I would always have to bump the level up in the Center channel so I could hear it over the FL/FR speakers. Not so now. The Center channel comes across with no problem while blending in very nicely with the FL/FR speakers. Also, the bass has good oomph to it while not being overpowering.

Getting to know the 901 a lot better. More settings than I realized at first. The one thing I do miss is being able to set individual crossovers for my speakers. Seems a bit strange that I have to set one crossover for all the speakers even though they are not all the same size. With the audio sounding as good as it does though, this is a small issue indeed.

After all of the above have one question if I may. My front L/R speakers were set to Large. Should I leave them at Large or can I set to Small? This is where the issue of individual crossovers come into play.

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The one thing I do miss is being able to set individual crossovers for my speakers. Seems a bit strange that I have to set one crossover for all the speakers even though they are not all the same size. With the audio sounding as good as it does though, this is a small issue indeed.
Unfortunately my knowledge of MCACC is very limited. If there are no responses to your question here, you may want to repost in the MCACC thread.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...hread-213.html

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After all of the above have one question if I may. My front L/R speakers were set to Large. Should I leave them at Large or can I set to Small? This is where the issue of individual crossovers come into play.
My assumption is your NHT's have an integrated subwoofer...and you have no external sub. Large would be your normal setting as you would not require bass management. Setting to Small (if you had a separate/external sub) would direct the low bass frequencies to the external sub and not to the NHT's internal sub. So setting to Small w/o an external sub would result in very little low bass response. You may want to try the Small setting to hear the differences...won't hurt anything.

IMO, the Large and Small terminology have always been confusing and has nothing to do with the size of the speakers but rather capability. I've always tried to remember that:

Large = no bass management

Small = engage bass management

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