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My thoughts exactly but it will have to be more than just a tad for me to depart with my 8802
Do you feel the 8802 warrants a purchase just for the sound quality of a good 2.0 and 5.1 system .
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Do you feel the 8802 warrants a purchase just for the sound quality of a good 2.0 and 5.1 system .
Yes! That's exactly why I tried the 8802, I wanted a good 2.0 and 5,1 setup and it more than fulfilled that. It will be the same if I decide to move to an 8803 (highly doubt I will) but as noted above it better be that much better .
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Yes! That's exactly why I tried the 8802, I wanted a good 2.0 and 5,1 setup and it more than fulfilled that. It will be the same if I decide to move to an 8803 (highly doubt I will) but as noted above it better be that much better .
This the way I'm leaning . Currently using a oppo 105 and parasound p7 preamp , but I'm not really liking the sound of the 105 Dac (clinical) how would you describe the marantz sound on the 8002 . I did have a 7702mkii and was pretty happy with that , but sounded a little thin .
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This the way I'm leaning . Currently using a oppo 105 and parasound p7 preamp , but I'm not really liking the sound of the 105 Dac (clinical) how would you describe the marantz sound on the 8002 . I did have a 7702mkii and was pretty happy with that , but sounded a little thin .
The 105 can deliver excellent sound quality but the lower midbass and bass can come off as lean, some will call it tighter but compared to its upper mids and highs its were I found the disconnect on music, everything was there but lacked overall coherence, you can call that clinical or the cooler side of neutral.The 8802 had the mid to lower bottom end coupled with all those goodies I liked about the 105 direct to my Halo A21 when I tried it that way. The 8802's sound is detailed but not at the expense of dissecting it to the point of being over analytical, is it warm? only if the recording itself is but still here its draws out the music and comes off as engaging, I couldn't say that about the 105 everything was there (sans the transition to the lower midbass and bass) but never did I connect with music as I have with the 8802. You could say the 8802 is everything you liked about the 7702mkII and 105 with its own touch as well
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The 105 can deliver excellent sound quality but the lower midbass and bass can come off as lean, some will call it tighter but compared to its upper mids and highs its were I found the disconnect on music, everything was there but lacked overall coherence, you can call that clinical or the cooler side of neutral.The 8802 had the mid to lower bottom end coupled with all those goodies I liked about the 105 direct to my Halo A21 when I tried it that way. The 8802's sound is detailed but not at the expense of dissecting it to the point of being over analytical, is it warm? only if the recording itself is but still here its draws out the music and comes off as engaging, I couldn't say that about the 105 everything was there (sans the transition to the lower midbass and bass) but never did I connect with music as I have with the 8802. You could say the 8802 is everything you liked about the 7702mkII and 105 with its own touch as well
Wow , great description that I can comprehend . Everyone I talk to seems to think the 105 is the bees knees and that the issue is me . Lol I know what I'm hearing with the 105 and agree .I spend more time adjusting than enjoying . so do you use HDMI now to the 8802 and let the 8802 dacs do its thing ?

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Wow , great description that I can comprehend . Everyone I talk to seems to think the 105 is the bees knees and that the issue is me . Lol I know what I'm hearing with the 105 and agree .I spend more time adjusting than enjoying . so do you use HDMI now to the 8802 and let the 8802 dacs do its thing ?
That's the part that I found astounding about the 8802! This evaluation was done with HDMI! I use a Pangea (POCCC) 2mtr from a Marantz UD5007 , I plan to try coax and optical oneday or a swanky Wireworld to compare to the Pangea. I've done far less adjusting and have gotten to focusing on more music purchases since its install. I've been looking for a piece like this as I don't like to change things once I feel I've gotten it right. I can get back to building around the setup I have now , some new acoustic panels and such I've been wanting to try, hopefully I can get 5-10yrs out of it.
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That's the part that I found astounding about the 8802! This evaluation was done with HDMI! I use a Pangea (POCCC) 2mtr from a Marantz UD5007 , I plan to try coax and optical oneday or a swanky Wireworld to compare to the Pangea. I've done far less adjusting and have gotten to focusing on more music purchases since its install. I've been looking for a piece like this as I don't like to change things once I feel I've gotten it right. I can get back to building around the setup I have now , some new acoustic panels and such I've been wanting to try, hopefully I can get 5-10yrs out of it.
Wow that's what im talking about !!!! I'm curious though to know how much better the sound is over the mkii . Just curious
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AV7703 looks to be the same rear layout as the AV7702.
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AV7703 looks to be the same rear layout as the AV7702.
One major difference is the 7702 has "Front Wide/Height1", while 7703 only has "Height1" as label next to that output.

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AV7703 and SR7011 should be announced pretty soon.
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Just purchased an XBR75X940D 4K TV and need a new prepro to replace my Onkyo! It looks like this might be the new replacement. I have placed a preorder!

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AV7703 and SR7011 should be announced pretty soon.
Yup ... by the end of Sep as we're expecting to start shipping them in October sometime.
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When is the replacement for the av8802a supposed to come out? Next year? I am torn between an 8803 or 7703. I only use my system for movies and tv, however I want the best capable sound from my speakers to get the best movies experience. I usually do a ton of research but now that my wife and I had a baby and he is elven months old I just do not have the time.

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When is the replacement for the av8802a supposed to come out? Next year? I am torn between an 8803 or 7703. I only use my system for movies and tv, however I want the best capable sound from my speakers to get the best movies experience. I usually do a ton of research but now that my wife and I had a baby and he is elven months old I just do not have the time.
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The 7703 is on the floor at Cedia.
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The AV7703 is confirmed to not being released until end of October.

I was also able to confirm that the DSU / DTS Neural:X cross mix update should come pre-loaded from the factory.

The Pandora logon fix being issued to the lower level 2016 models does not apply to the AV7703, as the networking sources (ie. Pandora, Spotify, SiriusXM) are no longer located on the AVP, rather they will be streamed "to" the AVP's HEOS module from a smart phone/tablet using the Denon HEOS app. As a reminder, this app has a demo mode so you can download it (FREE) and check it out if you like.

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So does anyone have the complete specs yet on the 7703? For home theater and tv use only which is a better processor to get the 7702mkii, 7703, 8802a or wait to see what the 8803 has to offer.
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So does anyone have the complete specs yet on the 7703? For home theater and tv use only which is a better processor to get the 7702mkii, 7703, 8802a or wait to see what the 8803 has to offer.
The AV8802A will remain the current "flagship" pre/pro until the release of the AV8803 likely in Jan 2018.
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Impressive job in pitching the 7702mkII with Heos... Aside from the new calibration app, I can't imagine a lot of people upgrading unless they skipped the mkII and have a pre-4K preamp

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Through arm twisting and begging, I am getting an advanced unit of the 7703 this Wednesday (9/21/16). The production ship date is over one month away. So as you might guess, I am stoked to see and hear it a month or more early. I'll be posting my impressions. Yea... I'll pop the hood and snap some pictures as well.

Since the 03 higherend platform has the new HEOS engine in it, I will also be listening and examining the HEOS prepro GUI and user friendliness. I've heard it. But a lot of customers have not. Therefore, I will be listening to a couple of the HEOS boxes using the 7703 and posting our impressions. Basically the 7703 has this https://usa.denon.com/us/heos-link built inside of it ($349 retail). My understanding is the price point of the 7703 is the same as the 7702mkii. Their motivation is for all of us to get addicted to their new platform that goes head-to-head with Sonos. In fact, initial shipments will include a free HEOS 1 (and allow people to trade-up by paying more $$'s). This will be a limited time.... More on other posts. If anyone has a SONOS to borrow, I'd like to compare them with the HEOS (SQ wise).

I'm 2 hours north of the Twin Cities. So I asked a customer of mine who has a well treated room (measures well) if I can host the event at his house near Minneapolis. He agreed. He has an 8801. I'll drag over a brand new 8802A and we can compare the SQ between the 8801, 8802A, and 7703. I was told there have been some small running changes between the mkii and 7703. Every generation has them for SQ reasons. I'll get to that later.

It's always good to listen and compare in different rooms with different gear. Plus, I always like comparing with other people too. If an MN AVS members would like to attend, PM me. It will probably be this coming Saturday. I'll be buying some pizza etc. The goal is to have fun and learn. The only rule is whoever attends the listening session must post what they heard (HEOS, etc). If anyone has a SONOS device to bring over, that would also be helpful. While discussing HEOS it isn't officially part of a 7703, the feature IMHO important and related.
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SteveH, do you have any further info on the new Audyssey app? The ability to adjust tweet curves (sans Pro) and cutoff that have been rumored are very intriguing.
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So does anyone have the complete specs yet on the 7703? For home theater and tv use only which is a better processor to get the 7702mkii, 7703, 8802a or wait to see what the 8803 has to offer.
The 7703 is basically a 7702mkii with HEOS. There will always be running changes and tweaks. It might be to make it easier to manufacture, making it more robust (reliability) or improved sound quality tweaks. I don't know what was done.

I will be in Japan with the head guys at D&M next week at the factory. I've always wanted to visit and it finally worked with their schedule. I'll ask the 7703 engineers what running changes they performed. If they allow me to say what was done, I will report back.

The 7703 won't have what the 8802A has:
* Reference Grade (PM-11S3) Balanced Circuitry.
* Fully Discrete Current Feedback HDAM-SA2 Modules
* Jitter reduction circuitry for all Optical, Coaxial & HDMI inputs
* Low Noise Toroidal Power Transformer, derived from the PM-11S3
* New Audiophile Capacitors with twice the reserve as what was in the AV8801
* Three Piece Top Cover with Copper Plated Chassis (helps noise floor and reduces jitter).

To the ear, the 8802A beat out the 7702mkii. But we will be listening for differences and report accordingly.
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SteveH, do you have any further info on the new Audyssey app? The ability to adjust tweet curves (sans Pro) and cutoff that have been rumored are very intriguing.
If I am a betting person and while in Japan next week, I will be signing an NDA. I have to leave it at that.

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The 7703 is basically a 7702mkii with HEOS. There will always be running changes and tweaks. It might be to make it easier to manufacture, making it more robust (reliability) or improved sound quality tweaks. I don't know what was done.

I will be in Japan with the head guys at D&M next week at the factory. I've always wanted to visit and it finally worked with their schedule. I'll ask the 7703 engineers what running changes they performed. If they allow me to say what was done, I will report back.

The 7703 won't have what the 8802A has:
* Reference Grade (PM-11S3) Balanced Circuitry.
* Fully Discrete Current Feedback HDAM-SA2 Modules
* Jitter reduction circuitry for all Optical, Coaxial & HDMI inputs
* Low Noise Toroidal Power Transformer, derived from the PM-11S3
* New Audiophile Capacitors with twice the reserve as what was in the AV8801
* Three Piece Top Cover with Copper Plated Chassis (helps noise floor and reduces jitter).

To the ear, the 8802A beat out the 7702mkii. But we will be listening for differences and report accordingly.
As always, I will be eager to hear your thoughts.
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For those early adopters, the AV7703 is available for pre order at B&H with expected availability date of October 6th. Listed price is $2199.

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For those early adopters, the AV7703 is available for pre order at B&H with expected availability date of October 6th. Listed price is $2199.
Not to mention available at AVS on pre-order as well. Call for pricing if interested.
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For those early adopters, the AV7703 is available for pre order at B&H with expected availability date of October 6th. Listed price is $2199.
The AV7703's part numbers were not loaded in the D&M's system until yesterday. I think October 6th isn't accurate. But like all authorized dealers including myself, I have a list of people who want one.

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Hey Steve – have you done listening tests for movies between Marantz 7702 series vs. Denon 4200 / 6200 used as pre/pros with the same external amps? Just curious as to whether the HDAM circuitry improves movie performance as well. It seems as though a number of people use the Denons with external amps for at least the mains and might consider a step up to a dedicated pre/pro and amps if there is better performance to be had.

I haven’t been able to find much for blind testing of this type of setup or the similar Marantz 7010 vs. Denon 6200 scenarios.

@jdsmoothie; posts: Both (Marantz SR-7010 or Denon AVR-X6200W) will do an excellent job with movies, while the HDAM pre-amps in the SR7010 should provide a more detailed music listening experience.

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Originally Posted by zorax2 View Post
Hey Steve – have you done listening tests for movies between Marantz 7702 series vs. Denon 4200 / 6200 used as pre/pros with the same external amps? Just curious as to whether the HDAM circuitry improves movie performance as well. It seems as though a number of people use the Denons with external amps for at least the mains and might consider a step up to a dedicated pre/pro and amps if there is better performance to be had.

I haven’t been able to find much for blind testing of this type of setup or the similar Marantz 7010 vs. Denon 6200 scenarios.

@jdsmoothie; posts: Both (Marantz SR-7010 or Denon AVR-X6200W) will do an excellent job with movies, while the HDAM pre-amps in the SR7010 should provide a more detailed music listening experience.

What are your thoughts?
I've compared the Denon x7200 (8802 platform w/ less tweaks) to the 7009. The exclusive reason was because I missed the performance I had on one of my systems using the 4520ci. So that drove me to experiment with a group of guys. So the experiment was studying a 7702mkii, 8802A versus the preouts of the SR7009 and x7200. The 7009 was a good deal weaker than all the other platforms.

The x7200 sounded incredible and I wasn't expecting that. About the same as the 7702mkii. I talked with engineering. The power supply and signal path isn't as robust on the SR7009, 7010, and 7011. In short, we don't get "free" amps (receiver) with the identical prepro. 99% the same circuits? Yep! But according to a head guy at D&M, the AV7702, mkii, and pending 7703 pay closer attention to the signal path. That means less noise which means less jitter. So the prepro's and 7702 sounded "fuller" and less "harsh" (analogy MP3 to high resolution). I assume that is flipping and flopping 1's and 0's or jitter. Next, the magnitude of the explosions or lips separating (dynamics) were not as good. I assume that was the power supply compromise. I was not expecting the X7200 to sound so good and a whole lot better than the SR7009 preouts. But the 7009 was plucked out of my system and in went the X7200. I'm happy with that system (GoldenEar Triton system).

I have not compared the 6300 preouts. I will try that when I get to AZ in a month.

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