Originally Posted by Gurba
The funniest thing is HDCP haven't worked one bit against pirating films. Nobody copies from the HDMI output of a player anyway.
Seriously.... Anyone that wants to copy a disc (of any format) can and will. And those that want to duplicate them via racks of 'burners'.... well that's still happening.
Originally Posted by Scott Simonian
Fourth bullet point feature was 'quad sub outs'.
I think it's safe to say that there will be at least
two subwoofer outputs like there is now.
I agree. SURELY there will be two *independent* sub outs. They just need the current parametric controls aka the 3060.
Originally Posted by TonyPAV
Pretty much agree. Although 9.2.4 would be my wish (as a minimum spec).
YAMAHA if you're listening, at the very least, please implement 9.2.4 on the next design of the CX-A5--- preamp 🙏🙏🙏
Originally Posted by dunnersfella
Well let's be realistic for a second.
If Yamaha adds things (extra channels / sub outputs etc) then they need to remove things OR increase prices.
Increasing prices of course, results in fewer sales... so we're probably not going to see that.
Don't expect to see a return to analogue inputs - the world is moving on.
Front wides? Nope.
The real area for sales growth would be in an increase of Zones for custom integrators... a 4 Zone pre-amplifier could be a winner. But with the advent of MusicCast and products like the WX-A50 available now, I doubt it will happen.
Increased numbers of Setting Patterns, yup.
More options for scenes, yes.
Implementation of the RXA3060's EQ capabilities, sure.
The latest and greatest DAC's, yes.
802.11 A/B/G/N/AC networking, yup.
Bluetooth version 5.0... if it's good to go, sure.
HD BaseT version 2.0... maybe.
Revised GUI... maybe.
Better remote... hopefully.
We'll see a removal of some analogue inputs (component in particular) and maybe RS232 in order to achieve this.
I really don't think they need to remove much at all to make it at least equal to the 3060.
The EQ abilities from the 3060 ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE INCLUDED!
Regarding the DAC's, Yamaha has generally been keeping up fairly well on that front. As long as they keep one step ahead in that regard, could go a long way towards consumer draw.
Wanna see some stratospheric DAC's? Check out MSB Technologies. We shared a room with them at T.H.E. Show way back in 2000~2001 in Vegas. T.H.E. Show piggybacks with CES and is the high end audiophiles wet dream of a show. Everything from DC (as in D cell battery) powered phono preamps, to hand carved loudspeakers that look like canoes standing on end, that sell for $250,000 a pair.
Back then, the MSB DAC's were $495 to $1895 and switching them in and out of the signal path was tantamount to both a 12 band graphic as well as a 7-band parametric EQ, and doubling your amplifier power all at once being switched into the circuit.
The difference that there $895 DAC made to the soundstage in a 2-channel setup was nothing short of staggering! (And I'm talking about a dedicated two channel setup running somewhere from $30,000 to $60,000 yet the simple addition off a $895 DAC took it to levels that you just wouldn't believe.)
(I think their entry level now is around $7K )
They have DAC's now that cost twich as as much as my first home! LOL
But I digress....
Does it need half a dozen component inputs? Nope, but I'd say 2 should stay just because. I'd also argue for the analog x.1 inputs. Plenty of DVD players to this day that still offer 5.1 (at least) outputs. Take the Panasonic 4K for instance.
AC dual channel wireless would be nice, (although I prefer wired, but do see the need for wireless).
The GUI changed on the 3060 from the earlier versions, which would be nice. Wouldn't expect anything more than that though.
Do we need 33 different sound field programs? Methinks not. Yet I have to say that a select few of those programs are one of my guilty pleasures. And have been ever since they came out decades ago. The trick however is to back everything up to about 60% to 70% off the 'factory' settings.
Do away with Gothic Cathedrals and famous churches from around the globe. That is unless you have the DVD collection of the Pope and intend to enthrall yourself with that exact moment and reverberation of being there. And I'm not a fan of the sports or gaming sound fields, (but that's jist me).
The jazz clubs and live music venues as well as the various theater / movie settings can all be quite pleasurable once they've been adjusted to where they're not so garish. I use those on a daily basis! In fact... Yamaha has said that Dolby Digital and DTS processing stays intact in quite a few of their movie and Music settings.
Which brings up another point.
It's just that when one uses these settings you now have the ability to use the front "effects" and rear "effects" speakers. A long standing Yamaha feature.
Now whether or not one wants to consider those particular speakers as "wide" (as has been mentioned several times) is a different story.
But I can say unequivocally from using Yamaha front effects speakers for a number of decades now that the soundstage in music presentation, CD's and DVD's (multichannel included) as well as the entire surround effect when listening to movie soundtracks is considerably larger, deeper, and more open when using those speakers.
In my current setup I have the front effects as well as rear effects which basically make a 11.2 setup. But I also have 4 more in-ceiling speakers for the height channels. (In a 14'4"cathedral ceiling where the TV and speakers are along the long wall and the ceiling is angled to where the ceiling speakers are aiming directly towards the seated positions, front and rear). I can switch from the corner effect speakers to the ceiling speakers when running Dolby Atmos and/or DTS-X.... to get a better 'height' effect.... or run all of them at the same time if I'm feeling froggy. LOL
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