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Is the Denon's AVR-S920W still the go to for a receiver in the ~$500 price range?
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Is the Denon's AVR-S920W still the go to for a receiver in the ~$500 price range?
Now it's the recently released S930H with the new HEOS module built-in.
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Kindly suggest a receiver in 500-1000 range, it should be musical as I will be listening to 2 channel bookshelf speakers for new but will add a center channel and a subwoofer later on.

What is the go-to receiver for music listers?

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Kindly suggest a receiver in 500-1000 range, it should be musical as I will be listening to 2 channel bookshelf speakers for new but will add a center channel and a subwoofer later on.

What is the go-to receiver for music listers?

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I am looking for a sub- $300 receiver that supports 4K HDR and Dolby Vision passthrough. No interest in Dolby Atmos or DTS:X. Perfectly happy with TrueHD and DTSHD:MA

So far it would seem that the Yamaha RX-V383BL is the receiver for me. Any other suggestions?
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Chromecast built in?

Are there any receivers that have chromecast built in?

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Now it's the recently released S930H with the new HEOS module built-in.
Is it worth a little more $ to get the X2300 over the S930H? Or is there, 4 months on, a better sub-$500 option currently out there? My biggest need is Dolby Vision support but I'd also like to get the best version of Audyssey I can for the money, especially as I have 2 subs.
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If you want the best dual sub support you need an AVR with sub EQ HT which the Denon x3300 has along with Audyssey XT32.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-MSmaTD...g&awug=9031997

The x2300 cannot calibrate and EQ dual subs individually. You'll have to spend a little bit more.

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This might be a dumb question, but do receivers in general allow you to flip a room speaker arrangement with a projector setup. Eg run the rears and uppers from the receiver amp, and take preamp out for front and centres? That way keep short HDMI runs, and players at the projector?
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I am looking for a sub- $300 receiver that supports 4K HDR and Dolby Vision passthrough. No interest in Dolby Atmos or DTS:X. Perfectly happy with TrueHD and DTSHD:MA

So far it would seem that the Yamaha RX-V383BL is the receiver for me. Any other suggestions?
The 2016 Denon S720W just recently received the Dolby Vision + HLG firmware update.

https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hom...ivers/avrs720w

The older 2015 S710W is also expected to receive the same update within the next few months.
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This might be a dumb question, but do receivers in general allow you to flip a room speaker arrangement with a projector setup. Eg run the rears and uppers from the receiver amp, and take preamp out for front and centres? That way keep short HDMI runs, and players at the projector?
Not sure what you mean by "flip a room speaker arrangement" (as there would be only 1 HDMI cable from the AVR to the PJ which has no impact on how the speakers are powered), but yes, with most (but not all) AVRs you can externally power L/C/R and let the AVR power the remaining speakers.

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Is it worth a little more $ to get the X2300 over the S930H? Or is there, 4 months on, a better sub-$500 option currently out there? My biggest need is Dolby Vision support but I'd also like to get the best version of Audyssey I can for the money, especially as I have 2 subs.
1. Depends on the price difference and whether the upgrades are worth it to you (ie. extra 3rd year of warranty, better version of Audyssey MultEQ XT, Zone 2 pre-outs). The X2300W just recently received the Dolby Vision firmware update.

2. The lowest Denon model that features the best version of Audyssey (XT32) is the X3300W (or newer X3400H w/HEOS) both of which also feature Audyssey Sub EQ HT (dual sub level/delay).
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Not sure what you mean by "flip a room speaker arrangement" (as there would be only 1 HDMI cable from the AVR to the PJ which has no impact on how the speakers are powered), but yes, with most (but not all) AVRs you can externally power L/C/R and let the AVR power the remaining speakers.
I mean say the receiver has 7 powered channels and I use them for rears and Atmos, run preamp out to the fronts. Most receivers I can't figure how to override that. The from powered channels always seem dedicated. The designs are geared to a front TV, front AV gear. You put the display device at the rear and it isn't as neat.

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I mean say the receiver has 7 powered channels and I use them for rears and Atmos, run preamp out to the fronts. Most receivers I can't figure how to override that. The from powered channels always seem dedicated. The designs are geared to a front TV, front AV gear. You put the display device at the rear and it isn't as neat.
A 7CH model wouldn't have the capability for both Rears and Atmos rather only 7.1 (side + rear surrounds) or 5.1.2 (side surrounds + Atmos).

So then you want to connect a second set of speakers for the L/C/R for the PJ screen in the rear of the room. Yes, this is possible as well; however, you would not be able to mute the speakers connected to the L/C/R speaker posts when using the externally powered speakers unless you connect them to an A/B speaker selector switch.
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My Onkyo HT-R670 died... Help me decide what to replace it with, < $800.

Current Setup (7.1) mostly used for TV, movies, and gaming. Not used much for music and no second zone.

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- TV : Samsung 55, 3d, non-4K
- Center : Polk CS2 series 2
- Front L/R : Polk Monitor 60 series 2
- Rears : Monoprice In-ceiling flush 8"
- Sub : BIC F-12

Room : Hardwood floors, 9ft H x 18ft W x 16ft L ( technically 27 ft, as its an open floor plan into the kitchen)

Dont need a bunch of HDMI inputs - TV, bluray, xbox, and a spare. Would like to have Audyssey MultEQ XT32. Don't think I'd go with 9.1, but it'd be good to have the option.


Thanks for your input and suggestions!
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My Onkyo HT-R670 died... Help me decide what to replace it with, < $800.

Current Setup (7.1) mostly used for TV, movies, and gaming. Not used much for music and no second zone.

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- TV : Samsung 55, 3d, non-4K
- Center : Polk CS2 series 2
- Front L/R : Polk Monitor 60 series 2
- Rears : Monoprice In-ceiling flush 8"
- Sub : BIC F-12

Room : Hardwood floors, 9ft H x 18ft W x 16ft L ( technically 27 ft, as its an open floor plan into the kitchen)

Dont need a bunch of HDMI inputs - TV, bluray, xbox, and a spare. Would like to have Audyssey MultEQ XT32. Don't think I'd go with 9.1, but it'd be good to have the option.


Thanks for your input and suggestions!

Denon X4300H on closeout. No brainer.
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Denon X4300H on closeout. No brainer.
Thanks. Doing research - I've keep going back and forth between Yamaha A6/700's and the Denon X3/4300's. But X4300 looks like -
for the money - keeps coming out on top. Good features, power, price, and room to grow. Sold.
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SR5012 seems to meet my needs at 7.2 but now Crutch has the SR6011 on sale for same price. Any reason not to go with the latter?
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I'm upgrading from a toshiba 1080p set to a 4k hdr set (vizio p or oled). I currently have a sony str-dh540 5.1 receiver. Should I replace my receiver to run HDR signal? 5.1 setup is fine with me, no real interest in atmos. I know I can use ARC to feed audio back to the sony (it's ARC compatible), but as I understand it, some better audio formats (for ex dolby trueHD) are not available through the TV and won't be passed down to the receiver using ARC.

I can get a good deal now on the pioneer 831, and have a buyer for the 540. Should I switch? Or would ARC be sufficient using the sony 540?
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Or would ARC be sufficient using the sony 540?
It depends how much you care about audio. What you can get through ARC is old school Dolby Digital and DTS. As you noted, if you want something like Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD you need a new AVR capable of carrying your video signal. I would upgrade but a lot of people are fine with the sound produced by DD.
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It depends how much you care about audio. What you can get through ARC is old school Dolby Digital and DTS. As you noted, if you want something like Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD you need a new AVR capable of carrying your video signal. I would upgrade but a lot of people are fine with the sound produced by DD.
Although stefpoit has no interest in Atmos, ARC can also pass DD+ which is what Netflix currently uses to pass Atmos audio.
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Been awhile since I posted, but I am curious. What is the most processing channels on a processor/AVR available today? The most I can readily find is 11.2 (or 7.2.4). I am not concerned about the # of power amps. Nor am I concerned with "Why do you want more than 11.2?" Is there a manufacturer today that produces a product that will process more than 11.2 channels SIMULTANEOUSLY. TIA.
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Why u dont put pioneer sc lx 501 is not that good receiver

So if we compare between Yamaha 1060 and Pionner sc lx 501

What is better ?
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Does anyone know if there is a comparison of the major brands and what their strengths/weaknesses are? I considering shopping brands, picking one, then zeroing in on the right AVR in their lineup.

Stuff like
Brand x is known for great video processing
Brand y uses proprietary wireless speakers
Brand z is known for providing software updates years after you purchase the receiver
and many more...
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Is this the place to ask questions? Not sure after looking through some threads.

Just got some LS50s as surrounds to round out my 4.2 system. I'm currently using an old 1080p Denon (AVR 1912) hooked up via optical.

My question is, what is the best surround mode to use? My options seem to be: stereo, Dolby pl2 cinema, Dolby pro logic, dts neo: 6 cinema, multi ch stereo, and mono movie. Does each movie get mastered using a different surround sound profile, making this process a guessing game, or is one generally the best to set and forget (and least artificial/overly processed)? I'm guessing video games are a similar story. I naively assumed that I'd pop in a blu-ray and the appropriate track would be selected for me.

Second, being connected via optical, what am I missing out on sound wise? Is it worth it to upgrade if the amp section is fine?

Third, I find that I need to crank my surrounds up by like 10 DB in the receiver to get them to feel like they are doing anything. Otherwise, they are too low compared to the fronts and I can barely hear anything.

Finally, am I missing anything by not having a center channel? I don't feel the need for one, but you never see a 4.2 system, and I'm curious if just buying a center would simplify my options.
I am totally mystified by receivers and surround sound in general, so any help is greatly appreciated. I'll pass on any knowledge I obtain.
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very interesting, thanks all for your input
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Is this the place to ask questions? Not sure after looking through some threads.

Just got some LS50s as surrounds to round out my 4.2 system. I'm currently using an old 1080p Denon (AVR 1912) hooked up via optical.

My question is, what is the best surround mode to use? My options seem to be: stereo, Dolby pl2 cinema, Dolby pro logic, dts neo: 6 cinema, multi ch stereo, and mono movie. Does each movie get mastered using a different surround sound profile, making this process a guessing game, or is one generally the best to set and forget (and least artificial/overly processed)? I'm guessing video games are a similar story. I naively assumed that I'd pop in a blu-ray and the appropriate track would be selected for me.

Second, being connected via optical, what am I missing out on sound wise? Is it worth it to upgrade if the amp section is fine?

Third, I find that I need to crank my surrounds up by like 10 DB in the receiver to get them to feel like they are doing anything. Otherwise, they are too low compared to the fronts and I can barely hear anything.

Finally, am I missing anything by not having a center channel? I don't feel the need for one, but you never see a 4.2 system, and I'm curious if just buying a center would simplify my options.
I am totally mystified by receivers and surround sound in general, so any help is greatly appreciated. I'll pass on any knowledge I obtain.
This is the right place!
With movies for your 1912 you really have 2 choices: Dolby Digital and DTS which are 2 different sound formats that most media come encoded with which brings me to:

Decoding. Your AVR receiver will decode what the media was recorded in...your AVR does DTS 96/24, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1, DTS-HD High Resolution, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD...

Movies do not come encoded with mono movie, 5 and/or 7 channel stereo or Neo cinema or music modes. These are DSP profiles used usually for 2 channel sources to envelop you with more sound than the left and right speaker.

You can use HDMI Arc instead of optical. Optical has limitations and can do up to 5.1 audio. Should you want more than That? HDMI is your huckleberry.

Never ass u me. DVD/Bluray discs have settings to choose which format you want to hear. I've found Denon's older DSP to be worthless.

You should not have to crank your surrounds to 10db! What do you have your other speakers set to? I have my rear surrounds at + 3.5db and they are calibrated via my AVR.

I remember those older Denon's not having the best decoders or some limitation that greatly reduced rear surround output.

You are missing better dialogue, better imaging by cramming the center output into your left and right speakers. I feel the center is the heart of any HT. Timbre matching the front 3 channels is also important.

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Is it worth it for $400 more to upgrade from the Denon x3300w to the Denon x4300h?
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Is it worth it for $400 more to upgrade from the Denon x3300w to the Denon x4300h?
Until someone else can chime in with more information, my recollection from looking at these several months ago.. you only really need to consider the x4300h if you plan on using the additional channels of amplification.

There may have been one or two other things, but they've escaped my memory now.
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Until someone else can chime in with more information, my recollection from looking at these several months ago.. you only really need to consider the x4300h if you plan on using the additional channels of amplification.

There may have been one or two other things, but they've escaped my memory now.
The upgradability was really the sole reason for me looking at the x4300h over the x3300. So it is really down to is 7.2.4 really that much better than 5.2.2
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