Originally Posted by Molon_Labe
None that I am aware of, but if we look at the total number of home audio vendors Arcam, NAD, MiniDSP, Storm, and Datasat we have a 20% failure rate thus far
You have to consider the audience. MiniDSP's Dirac solutions are aimed at DIYers, while NAD is somewhere between a dealer and CI product. Datasat is effectively a legacy nameplate for ATI these days in the consumer area; I thought they'd rolled out or were planning a successor to the AP20 for commerical use?
I agree the Datasat and Storm are better processors, but I believe that most people choose them for their channel count, not their DACs and filters.
You mean what "most custom integrators" would choose; isn't that Storm's core audience, some enthusiasts on AVS and the British forum aside? Also, it's not all about high channel count, it's also about being able to support active crossovers for n-way speakers as well as subs.
I am not saying they aren't better; I am asking will the majority care for the subtle differences once more options are available? When there are more Dirac Live options with higher channel counts, will they spend the extra $10-$15k for the minor sonic advantages? Only time will tell, but I think they are going to be in trouble at their current price points. Trinnov is unique to itself, I was primarily speaking about Dirac Live vendors.
Other than us, who shops for a processor based on room EQ? IMO that extra $10-$15K for the kind of folks buying these products is just a bucket item in some high budget room. At least that's what the reps at CEDIA will tell you
I agree Trinnov is unique, with their PC/software architecture, levels of bass management and flexible high(er) channel count, even if you leave the Optimizer's feature set aside. From a technical perspective, there's really no reason for a consumer to buy anything else if you have the money with the exception of a) staying within an integrated product line like Steinway-Lyngdorf has or b) maybe ease of use if you're an integrator and want the monitoring features in the Storm, and/or don't want to spend the training and time to support the Altitude. Or you're just sold on the awesomeness of the awesome brand and like whatever you're selling
Everybody else for the intermediate-term future is competing on budget and relationships with distributors driving sales. At least in my somewhat biased opinion
To be back to the thread: I'm not dissing the MP-50. If you're a fan of Room Perfect, what it does philsophically for speaker/sub integration, and the voicings, it's for you. Just speaking from my own meta perspective.