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Scott Wilkinson 03-14-2017 05:09 PM

Owner's thread for the Sony STR-DN1080 AVR
 
Sony introduced the STR-DN1080 AVR with immersive-audio capabilities at CES. Today, the company has announced its pricing and availability.

https://www.avsforum.com/sony-announc...tr-dn1080-avr/

Kini62 03-14-2017 05:44 PM

This AVR just might make me finally replace my HK.

Looking forward to a few initial impressions or reviews.

helvetica bold 03-14-2017 05:53 PM

Will the DN1080 pass Dolby Vision? I would hope so since Sony's top of the line TVs support DV.

Jerry Bruckheimer Fan 03-14-2017 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helvetica bold (Post 51509185)
Will the DN1080 pass Dolby Vision? I would hope so since Sony's top of the line TVs support DV.

I'm pretty sure if it's HDMI 2.0 or 2.0a, it'll definitely pass through Dolby Vision metadata.

Fizban19 03-14-2017 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kini62 (Post 51508921)
This AVR just might make me finally replace my HK.

Looking forward to a few initial impressions or reviews.

I always liked the look of HK receivers....they have a different look from all the others....I am amazed that in this day and age, HK still doesn't have a receiver that passes a 4K signal......I just checked their website....such a shame as I too am looking for a new receiver.

fatuglyguy 03-14-2017 08:02 PM

Nice! Looks like the ES equivalent, the ZA810ES, is coming out soon too.

http://www.sonypremiumhome.com/recei...TR-ZA810ES.php

AsahiToro 03-14-2017 08:23 PM

It looks nice but no pre outs?

Ulisescm 03-14-2017 09:37 PM

The deal breaker for me is the inability to do 7.2.2, just 5.2.2

mtbdudex 03-15-2017 04:20 AM

I find it kinda ironic that a 4k AVR that has HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 has yesteryear's 1080 in it's name, "STR-DN1080" , hmmmm.

There are so many other number to choose from, why 1080?
(I'm just having fun with Sony here)

Mattopotamus 03-15-2017 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulisescm (Post 51513137)
The deal breaker for me is the inability to do 7.2.2, just 5.2.2

similarly, I am looking to upgrade my 5.1.2 to 5.1.4. There is a pretty significant price jump going to an AVR that can support that set up.

Can anyone comment on how DCAC compares to Audyssey?

popyang45 03-15-2017 07:07 AM

why to buy Receiver with HDMI standard outdated !

I waiting for HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

jdsmoothie 03-15-2017 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popyang45 (Post 51518457)
why to buy Receiver with HDMI standard outdated !

I waiting for HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

You'll be waiting until 2018 ... and then in 2020 .. the standard will again change to HDMI 3.0. ;)

jdsmoothie 03-15-2017 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulisescm (Post 51513137)
The deal breaker for me is the inability to do 7.2.2, just 5.2.2

Although it cannot do actual "physical" 7.2.2, as noted in the release, it can do "phantom" rear surrounds for simulated 7.2.2. :)

Mattopotamus 03-15-2017 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popyang45 (Post 51518457)
why to buy Receiver with HDMI standard outdated !

I waiting for HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

That article says 2018. You will be waiting forever if you are wiling to wait a year b.c something new will come in 2019, 2020, etc.

What content are you going to be watching?
-Can carry resolutions up to 10K, frame rates up to 120fps.

Mattopotamus 03-15-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 51518913)
Although it cannot do actual "physical" 7.2.2, as noted in the release, it can do "phantom" rear surrounds for simulated 7.2.2. :)

That is the most interesting thing about the AVR to me, and could make an upgrade worth it. I guess I will need to hear how it performs.

jdsmoothie 03-15-2017 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helvetica bold (Post 51509185)
Will the DN1080 pass Dolby Vision? I would hope so since Sony's top of the line TVs support DV.

Not likely as only HDR is referenced which does not imply Dolby Vision. Release for the new Sony 4k BDP indicates it currently cannot pass Dolby Vision and that Sony is waiting to see which way the market goes as to whether it will release a firmware update. The same is likely true for the new DN1080 AVR.

Freddy Ford 03-15-2017 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popyang45 (Post 51518457)
why to buy Receiver with HDMI standard outdated !

I waiting for HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

This is from the article you linked. I guess you didn't read it.

A TV bought in 2018 could very well have HDMI 2.1, but even it won't take full advantage of the connection's potential. And a TV bought today will be able to display video to its own full potential using HDMI 2.0. In other words, lack of HDMI 2.1 is no reason to put off buying a new TV.

nebrunner 03-15-2017 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulisescm (Post 51513137)
The deal breaker for me is the inability to do 7.2.2, just 5.2.2



I've currently got a 7.2 setup with an old (venerable?) Onkyo 876. I have resisted upgrading to Atmos but at some point I will probably do it.


I'd like to only add two upfiring modules behind the front screen, they should bounce the sound right to the viewing sweet spot in the front row.


Most everything I have seen is only 5.2.2 and I really don't want to lose the use of my current back surrounds. What receiver(s) should I be looking at? 9.2 that support Atmos? 11.2 that support Atmos?


What I *think* I want is 7.2.2 but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Ulisescm 03-15-2017 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebrunner (Post 51521201)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulisescm (Post 51513137)
The deal breaker for me is the inability to do 7.2.2, just 5.2.2



I've currently got a 7.2 setup with an old (venerable?) Onkyo 876. I have resisted upgrading to Atmos but at some point I will probably do it.


I'd like to only add two upfiring modules behind the front screen, they should bounce the sound right to the viewing sweet spot in the front row.


Most everything I have seen is only 5.2.2 and I really don't want to lose the use of my current back surrounds. What receiver(s) should I be looking at? 9.2 that support Atmos? 11.2 that support Atmos?


What I *think* I want is 7.2.2 but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Same situation here, I'm eyeing a Marantz, I think we need to splash more cash...

Mattopotamus 03-15-2017 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebrunner (Post 51521201)
I've currently got a 7.2 setup with an old (venerable?) Onkyo 876. I have resisted upgrading to Atmos but at some point I will probably do it.


I'd like to only add two upfiring modules behind the front screen, they should bounce the sound right to the viewing sweet spot in the front row.


Most everything I have seen is only 5.2.2 and I really don't want to lose the use of my current back surrounds. What receiver(s) should I be looking at? 9.2 that support Atmos? 11.2 that support Atmos?


What I *think* I want is 7.2.2 but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

If you have a 7.2 (7 channel) and want to expand it to 7.2.2 That would be a 9 channel AVR, closer to $1300+ for entry level. If you want 7.2.4 that would be 11 channel and over $2000+ for entry level.

RLBURNSIDE 03-15-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popyang45 (Post 51518457)
why to buy Receiver with HDMI standard outdated !

I waiting for HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

When HDMI 2.1 sources and sinks come out, simple: buy an HDMI 2.1 -> HDMI 2.1 + HDMI 2.0a splitter and use your current HDMI 2.0a receiver for audio only. The audio component doesn't need HDMI 2.1 and never will. HDCP 2.2 however, yes, that's important. HDMI 2.0 supports audio-only paths, it doesn't have to have a video signal spliced in.

People have been doing this for years with HDMI 1.4 3D -> 1.3. Yes it's an additional expense but definitely smarter than waiting two years for a receiver which does nothing to the extra ".1" except forward it to your TV or act like a switch.

However, I believe HDMI 2.1 gear will likely be out by next year. In that case, then yes, it might be smarter to wait than spend 2K in 2017, especially if you already have something decent.

IMO all these Atmos receivers are over-priced and under-featured. Seriously, 5.1.2? 5.1.4 is the bare minimum to deliver a proper 3D sound field using point sources.

Scott Wilkinson 03-15-2017 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helvetica bold (Post 51509185)
Will the DN1080 pass Dolby Vision? I would hope so since Sony's top of the line TVs support DV.

I just confirmed with Sony that none of the company's AVRs will pass Dolby Vision. HDMI 2.0a certainly has the bandwidth to do it, but the circuitry must be Dolby Vision-aware, which must be specifically enabled.

helvetica bold 03-15-2017 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Wilkinson (Post 51534921)
I just confirmed with Sony that none of the company's AVRs will pass Dolby Vision. HDMI 2.0a certainly has the bandwidth to do it, but the circuitry must be Dolby Vision-aware, which must be specifically enabled.

Wow, even the crazy expensive Sony STR DN5000es won't pass DV? Perhaps a future article can focus on AVRs that do pass DV. It seems like there are very few AVRs that do pass DV which is troubling.

Jerry Bruckheimer Fan 03-16-2017 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattopotamus (Post 51516785)
similarly, I am looking to upgrade my 5.1.2 to 5.1.4. There is a pretty significant price jump going to an AVR that can support that set up.

You can probably get a Marantz pre-pro for about 45% off when next year's new model comes out. When the 7703 came out, it pushed the 7702MKII from $2199 to $1199 with no tax and free S&H. Same with the 7010 AVR when the 7011 came out.

jdsmoothie 03-16-2017 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helvetica bold (Post 51535401)
Wow, even the crazy expensive Sony STR DN5000es won't pass DV? Perhaps a future article can focus on AVRs that do pass DV. It seems like there are very few AVRs that do pass DV which is troubling.

AFAIK, there are no major brand 2016 or earlier models that can pass DV. Thus far, only D+M has announced it will add DV capability to the 2016 Denon and Marantz models via a firmware update to be released by early 2018. The new 2017 models of most major brands (except Sony apparently) will likely support DV (at least that is the case for the lower level Denon "S" series just announced a few days ago to be released next month). This is not a major issue; however, as there is currently very little (if any) DV content available not to mention currently only capable of being processed by a couple brands of TVs (LG and Vizio) and once it does become more prevalent, and presuming you purchase a 4k TV that can process it, you can pass the 4k DV video directly to the TV with the HD audio going to the AVR.

popyang45 03-16-2017 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 51518849)
You'll be waiting until 2018 ... and then in 2020 .. the standard will again change to HDMI 3.0. ;)

inaccurate
HDMI 2.0 standard ****ed built without testing ( was no HDR or 4K )
It was built on a bad theories

actual length of cable to 1 1/2 meter
  HDR perhaps to 1000NITS
10 BIT
( HDR +12 BIT NO IN HDMI 2.0 )

popyang45 03-16-2017 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattopotamus (Post 51518985)
That article says 2018. You will be waiting forever if you are wiling to wait a year b.c something new will come in 2019, 2020, etc.

What content are you going to be watching?
-Can carry resolutions up to 10K, frame rates up to 120fps.

NO
HDMI 2.0 poor standard / working Poor
If you do not know this, we have a problem

Mattopotamus 03-16-2017 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popyang45 (Post 51546785)
NO
HDMI 2.0 poor standard / working Poor
If you do not know this, we have a problem

I am having no issues with my 2.0 devices, so I guess I do not have a problem.

popyang45 03-16-2017 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy Ford (Post 51519121)
This is from the article you linked. I guess you didn't read it.

A TV bought in 2018 could very well have HDMI 2.1, but even it won't take full advantage of the connection's potential. And a TV bought today will be able to display video to its own full potential using HDMI 2.0. In other words, lack of HDMI 2.1 is no reason to put off buying a new TV.

today with HDMI 2.0 we have only trouble
if you do not know this, we have a problem
Standard built by theory without testing

Nothing works right with HDMI 2.0

popyang45 03-16-2017 08:17 AM

Quote:

When HDMI 2.1 sources and sinks come out, simple: buy an HDMI 2.1 -> HDMI 2.1 + HDMI 2.0a splitter and use your current HDMI 2.0a receiver for audio only. The audio component doesn't need HDMI 2.1 and never will.
Do not agree
AMD put Warnings HDMI 2.0 cable up to 1 1/2 meters in length

the next version of the HDMI standard version 2.1 an improvement for sound
Adaptive frame rate & better audio support

a new “eARC” features is highlighted. This is an extension of ARC – audio return channel – to enable support for object-based audio formats such as Dolby Atmos and DTS-X.
Why split? from Screen/tv via HDMI 2.1 to receiver
End to SPDIF
eARC in HDMI 2.1 supports the most advanced audio formats such as object-based audio, and enables advanced audio signal control capabilities including device auto-detect.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1483572084

HDMI 2.1 highlights: immersive viewing and smooth fast-action detail
to really 12BIT + HDR 4000NITS ( hdmi 2.0 built by theories without testing )
hdmi 2.0 1000NITS 4:2:0 leads to incorrect results with 10bit ( It's not just this cable also chip in the tv)

HDMI 2.1 Specification supports the latest color spaces including BT.2020 with 10, 12, and 16 bits per color
Manufacturers do not tell Why we not have REC 2020 ( not hurt sales )
HDMI 2.0 crappy ( for two years no problem reaching 90% in REC 2020 color on led )
so why we have only P3 and no rec 2020 ?
1. Sell More screens ( and not give all in the same year 80%/90%100% OF p3 )
2. HDMI 2.0 crappy Standard ( Do not forget HDMI 2.0 Cable Built FOR HDMI 1.4 the same cable only with 600 hz that Failed )


Dynamic HDR with HDR 10/ Dolby Vision/dynamic metadata 12BIT in hdmi 2.1 ensures every moment of a video is displayed at its ideal values for depth, detail, brightness, contrast, and wider color gamuts—on a scene-by-scene or even a frame-by-frame basis.
( today with content know HDR 4000nits +10/12BIT+p3/2020 ONLY in HDMI 2.1
HDMI 2.0 Built in 2013 So there was no material to test the HDR or P3 or 2020
The trouble began with graphics cards and found that you can barely get 10.2 GHz bandwidth in 4 K
With HDMI 2.0 ( So they invented HDMI 2.0A AND B / Big bull**** )
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1457513362

rokbyter 03-16-2017 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kini62 (Post 51508921)
This AVR just might make me finally replace my HK.

Looking forward to a few initial impressions or reviews.

Having "upgraded" from an HK to the Sony STR-DN860 a few years ago, I'd suggest having a listen before you pull the trigger. I'm not in the "all amps sound the same" camp and was pretty underwhelmed with the difference, especially after all the positive reviews I read about the 860 and it's big brother the 1060. This newer version may sound better, and perhaps you won't hear a difference, but just putting it out there.

Kini62 03-16-2017 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokbyter (Post 51549289)
Having "upgraded" from an HK to the Sony STR-DN860 a few years ago, I'd suggest having a listen before you pull the trigger. I'm not in the "all amps sound the same" camp and was pretty underwhelmed with the difference, especially after all the positive reviews I read about the 860 and it's big brother the 1060. This newer version may sound better, and perhaps you won't hear a difference, but just putting it out there.

Hear ya (get it :) )

The reason for the "upgrade" is for the 2 Atmos channels and the phantom rear surrounds. I had a Sony receiver prior to this HK and I really liked it.

Plus I buy from Crutchfield so I'll have 60 days to try it out. Hopefully it will be as good as the specs.

Mattopotamus 03-17-2017 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kini62 (Post 51550025)
Hear ya (get it :) )

The reason for the "upgrade" is for the 2 Atmos channels and the phantom rear surrounds. I had a Sony receiver prior to this HK and I really liked it.

Plus I buy from Crutchfield so I'll have 60 days to try it out. Hopefully it will be as good as the specs.

I do like the idea of the phantom surround back, but need to wait for an AVR that can support 5.2.4

MeanMachine 04-03-2017 09:26 PM

If you have a 5.1 Setup will phantom back be a waste if your already have rears ? wonder if you can make it phantom surround ?

jikhead 04-04-2017 06:56 PM

Sony customer service told me this when I asked about the STR-DN1080: According to their current support documentation available to their customer service/support team, there wasn't anything stating whether the STR-DN1080 would or could receive Dolby Vision support via a firmware update. Doesn't mean it can but also doesn't mean it can't.

They also told me this about their UBP-X800 UHD 4K player: they did have documentation in their system that states this player will be getting a firmware update to add Dolby Vision support.

MeanMachine 04-05-2017 08:22 AM

When playing music on this avr - stereo what will this avr produce WPC?

zerobrand 04-06-2017 11:10 AM

I'm a little bit of a noob here, but what is phantom surround back? I already have a 7.1 AVR, what is the difference? This one will only do 5.1 + phantom surround back for the other 2 speakers? I'm lost.

jikhead 04-07-2017 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerobrand (Post 52061097)
I'm a little bit of a noob here, but what is phantom surround back? I already have a 7.1 AVR, what is the difference? This one will only do 5.1 + phantom surround back for the other 2 speakers? I'm lost.

The receiver is essentially a 5.1.2 when it comes to number of channels (a total of 7.1). The 2 normal surrounds can be designated as you program/tell the receiver. The other 2 surrounds are intended to be your two Atmos ceiling speakers, but you can also program/tell the receiver wherever you want them to be designated too. It technically doesn't have rear surrounds, but you could designate one of the two pairs of surrounds as rear surrounds. The phantom surround backs are virtual speakers that will reproduce that sound from your side surrounds & ceiling surrounds.

Sony is intending the consumer that buys this receiver will likely have this speaker configuration and is wanting Atmos:

2 L/R Front Speakers
1 Center Speaker
2 L/R Side Surround
2 L/R Ceiling Surround
0 Rear Surround (Phantom output from all other Surround Speakers)

jikhead 04-07-2017 05:50 PM

I should've also mentioned that you could use 1 of the 2 pairs of surrounds for physical Rear Surrounds, but then you'd either lose the option of Side Surround or your Ceiling Surrounds (Atmos).

Ulisescm 04-10-2017 12:27 AM

Can I make 5.2.2 with it? I read everywhere 5.1.2 but I have 2 subs running with my old 1050 model

zerobrand 04-12-2017 07:01 AM

I'm kinda disappointed by the no Dolby Vision, and only 6 HDMI inputs (and only 5 of them supports 4:4:4)


6-in/2-out HDMI connectivity with 4K/60p (4:4:4)4 pass-through, HDCP 2.2 support and HDR support
HDMI 5in/2out support 4:4:4

drivinfast247 04-19-2017 03:50 PM

Wouldn't Atmos or DTS:X pretty much create a "phantom" rear channel? I mean it does simulate a 3d sound field. What can the Sony do differently?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk

eselv73 04-22-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikhead (Post 52019425)
Sony customer service told me this when I asked about the STR-DN1080: According to their current support documentation available to their customer service/support team, there wasn't anything stating whether the STR-DN1080 would or could receive Dolby Vision support via a firmware update. Doesn't mean it can but also doesn't mean it can't.

They also told me this about their UBP-X800 UHD 4K player: they did have documentation in their system that states this player will be getting a firmware update to add Dolby Vision support.

Interesting note about the X800 as it seems completely unconfirmed by Sony that they will be adding DV to the X800. Frankly, it's ridiculous that Sony is released the STR-DN1080 and X800 without future Dolby Vision support announced... considering Sony themselves are planning to release 4K UHD Blu-rays w/ DV support in 2017. What is this company even doing?

MeanMachine 04-22-2017 11:05 PM

The 1060-70 were huge Sellers & highly regarded- the 1080 looks to be even better also add to their already strong lineup - the new atmos sound bar they are releasing soon.
Not to mention to the PS4 Pro.
I'd say they know EXACTLY what they're doing.

eselv73 04-24-2017 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeanMachine (Post 52446721)
The 1060-70 were huge Sellers & highly regarded- the 1080 looks to be even better also add to their already strong lineup - the new atmos sound bar they are releasing soon.
Not to mention to the PS4 Pro.
I'd say they know EXACTLY what they're doing.

I get what you are saying, but if you are bringing up the PS4 Pro, I look at it as a big missed opportunity. PS3 was an excellent BD player, and Sony advertises the PS4 Pro as a "4K device", yet it won't play 4K UHD BDs or even games at true 4K resolution (checkerboard workarounds are the best it can handle with its video card).
If you buy a 2017 Sony OLED with HDR10 and Dolby Vision, isn't it reasonable to expect Sony's other 2017 items to work properly with it? Right now their TVs will have Dolby Vision but the 1080 won't pass the signal, and the X800 can't read it. Just kind of a baffling omission to me.

Edit: And yes, with most blu-ray players you could do a dual output and bypass AVR with your DV video, but if the hardware in the 1080 is capable of passing DV (which it definitely is), why not just update to add the feature.

MeanMachine 04-24-2017 03:31 PM

Is Dolby Vision all that?

jikhead 04-25-2017 02:30 PM

This was shared with my over on Sony's community page regarding the STR-DN1080; I don't know where this original post is listed over here on AVS...

From Scott Wiliknson on AVS Forum
"I just confirmed with Sony that none of the company's AVRs will pass Dolby Vision. HDMI 2.0a certainly has the bandwidth to do it, but the circuitry must be Dolby Vision-aware, which must be specifically enabled." I love Sony audio products but you dont get bang for your buck, thats for sure.

So this new receiver won't support Dolby Vision pass-thru if you are looking for this feature. If you get their new UHD bluray player or similar model with dual HDMI outs, you may not necessarily need it. However, I'm marking the Sony off my list and leaning towards the Denon AVR-S930H now.

Not sure about the phantom speakers on this Sony, but I asked Yamaha support on their's and they stated you can't have their Virtual Rear Surround Speakers enabled while also doing a 5.1.2 Atmos setup. So now the phantom speakers are a moot point for me.

MeanMachine 04-25-2017 06:54 PM

The s930h is only 80wpc ? Meh

aborges 05-05-2017 06:57 AM

Owner STRDN1080
 
So I got this unit and it will NOT play DSF DFF through NAS/Network Storage ONLY USB for now and it doesn't include album art... perhaps a firmware update will fix that. This is something the pioneer vsx1130k did well, but this Sony is a major sound upgrade, I am an audiophile with Audeze LCD's; in 5ch Stereo DSD Direct must be turned off, DSD Direct is really meant for two full sized speakers as direct turns off subwoofer and uses L+R Front only. Even so, it sounds much clearer and cleaner in 2ch with my satellite speakers just no bass. I guess I can fix that issue with bigger better front speakers. Now about issues with 80w rms. I see none. It gets loud enough to be heard from 3 floors up AND zero distortion with hi-res audio with it cranked up in DSD mode. 5ch stereo mode I can't say the same about, you don't need to crank it cause you have more speakers supplementing the loudness, however with it cranked and DSD off with DSD files, its noticeably dirty. Perhaps just as dirty as the pioneer in 5ch.

PRO's: highly customizable, menu system is pretty on the eyes, clean sound from blu-rays, 4kblu, even DVD, so far outstanding sound, bringing out things the pioneer couldn't such as cleaner higher dolby rear sound effects.
Con's: takes quite some time to turn on -- didn't time it but its far from instant, no DLNA DSD support yet, the menu system needs run faster, like switching from usb/listen/music/source can have lags at times, don't know why perhaps a bug.

I hope this helps someone also I know we aren't suppose to talk price? but I got mine for around 425 no tax (Illinois residents will have tax ;-) ) & free shipping. PM me if you want to see the receipt, but I don't really want to get into price, just understand all you have to do is ASK for a price discount at some vendors, I did not use eBay. == A B T dot com== which lists it as 598 I think.

Any comments on DSD DSF DFF files through network? I have had it a day now.

MeanMachine 05-05-2017 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aborges (Post 52758809)
So I got this unit and it will NOT play DSF DFF through NAS/Network Storage ONLY USB for now and it doesn't include album art... perhaps a firmware update will fix that. This is something the pioneer vsx1130k did well, but this Sony is a major sound upgrade, I am an audiophile with Audeze LCD's; in 5ch Stereo DSD Direct must be turned off, DSD Direct is really meant for two full sized speakers as direct turns off subwoofer and uses L+R Front only. Even so, it sounds much clearer and cleaner in 2ch with my satellite speakers just no bass. I guess I can fix that issue with bigger better front speakers. Now about issues with 80w rms. I see none. It gets loud enough to be heard from 3 floors up AND zero distortion with hi-res audio with it cranked up in DSD mode. 5ch stereo mode I can't say the same about, you don't need to crank it cause you have more speakers supplementing the loudness, however with it cranked and DSD off with DSD files, its noticeably dirty. Perhaps just as dirty as the pioneer in 5ch.

PRO's: highly customizable, menu system is pretty on the eyes, clean sound from blu-rays, 4kblu, even DVD, so far outstanding sound, bringing out things the pioneer couldn't such as cleaner higher dolby rear sound effects.
Con's: takes quite some time to turn on -- didn't time it but its far from instant, no DLNA DSD support yet, the menu system needs run faster, like switching from usb/listen/music/source can have lags at times, don't know why perhaps a bug.

I hope this helps someone also I know we aren't suppose to talk price? but I got mine for around 425 no tax (Illinois residents will have tax ;-) ) & free shipping. PM me if you want to see the receipt, but I don't really want to get into price, just understand all you have to do is ASK for a price discount at some vendors, I did not use eBay. == A B T dot com== which lists it as 598 I think.

Any comments on DSD DSF DFF files through network? I have had it a day now.

I thought it was 100 wpc ?
The 1070 was outstanding the 1060 outstanding for cinema - would you clsssify this as more of a HT avr?
Room correction??
What is dsd? Dlna direct etc ?
How is the low bass - movies especially?
To me this is where Sony should shine over a lot avr.
I liked their version of thx hdccp something " how movies were meant to sound " etc

aborges 05-05-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeanMachine (Post 52760913)
I thought it was 100 wpc ?
The 1070 was outstanding the 1060 outstanding for cinema - would you clsssify this as more of a HT avr?
Room correction??
What is dsd? Dlna direct etc ?
How is the low bass - movies especially?
To me this is where Sony should shine over a lot avr.
I liked their version of thx hdccp something " how movies were meant to sound " etc

It shows as 165w per channel. I would classify it as premium. Room correction has not been tried yet, I have a square room and the speakers are somewhat properly defined... I really wanted to play (DSD) The source of the music file is a 180gram Vinyl Rip (.dsf,.dff). I hope that helps. example: mp3 3mb per song dsf recorded @5.6mhz = 310mb per SONG roughly. DLNA- media streaming from a host device such as "network storage" DSD direct natively decodes 1bit using a proprietary chipset. I will test a few more movies, I kept the bass low cause it rattles my house at night when people are sleeping. Trust me movies and music sound FANTASTIC....

Sam Sherwood 05-08-2017 03:50 PM

I have a new theater room and have been waiting for the STR-DN1080 receiver to be available.
But I'm not sure how I should configure my speakers. My theater room does not have a back wall and I planned to install rear ceiling speakers. My surround speakers are located on the side walls... a little behind the front row of seats and a little in front of the 2nd/back row of seats.
My question to this forum: with this receiver should I install the ceiling speakers in the rear or in the front of the room?
I'm not sure if the DN1080's "Phantom Rear Speaker" feature will work in a room that lacks a rear wall.

Thanks.

aborges 05-10-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Sherwood (Post 52836353)
I have a new theater room and have been waiting for the STR-DN1080 receiver to be available.
But I'm not sure how I should configure my speakers. My theater room does not have a back wall and I planned to install rear ceiling speakers. My surround speakers are located on the side walls... a little behind the front row of seats and a little in front of the 2nd/back row of seats.
My question to this forum: with this receiver should I install the ceiling speakers in the rear or in the front of the room?
I'm not sure if the DN1080's "Phantom Rear Speaker" feature will work in a room that lacks a rear wall.

Thanks.


I have my rear speakers to the left and right (not behind me) I also have the surround back speakers in front ABOVE the L & R I have attached a picture. The rears are missing as I am standing in that area.

mhausig 05-10-2017 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulisescm (Post 52138625)
Can I make 5.2.2 with it? I read everywhere 5.1.2 but I have 2 subs running with my old 1050 model

There are two sub outs but only one sub level control.

CrimsonSword 05-14-2017 02:39 AM

Ok, bit of a mad question and likely this device is extreme overkill, but here goes.

My setup

TV: Sony 79X900B
Soundbar: Sony HT-ST5000
Headphones: Sony MDR-HW700DS (HDMI 1.4)

Devices:
Mac mini
Apple TV 3rd gen
NVIDIA Shield
Amazon Fire TV
Panasonic DMP-UB900
Xbox One S

Essentially due to HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 madness I am going to incur issues getting sound to both my headphones and the Soundbar.

So:

Can this receiver send TV ARC audio to both HDMI outputs?
Can this receiver send just audio over the 2nd HDMI output?

Basically I can't find a decent HDMI switch that can handle HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 and TV ARC effectively

Also want to avoid the issue of HDCP step down with the headphones

jikhead 05-14-2017 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonSword (Post 52965409)
So:

Can this receiver send TV ARC audio to both HDMI outputs?
Can this receiver send just audio over the 2nd HDMI output?

Basically I can't find a decent HDMI switch that can handle HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 and TV ARC effectively

Also want to avoid the issue of HDCP step down with the headphones

I haven't seen any receiver yet with 2 HMDI outputs that has ARC on both; only on 1. Not that there isn't one, but I would suspect to find one would require forking over a lot more money on a higher end model than this DN1080.

CrimsonSword 05-14-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikhead (Post 52969441)
I haven't seen any receiver yet with 2 HMDI outputs that has ARC on both; only on 1. Not that there isn't one, but I would suspect to find one would require forking over a lot more money on a higher end model than this DN1080.

Thanks for the response. I guess I can optical from the TV to the headphones then.

How about the dual HDMI output, does that limit you to the max capability of the lower spec device? E.g if the active input requires hdmi 2.0 andoutput 1 is connected to a HDMI 2.0 device but output 2 is HDMI 1.4, does the input device detect this?

avn06us 05-27-2017 03:24 PM

Need held with STRDN1080
 
Hello, I purchased a new Sony STRDN1080. I am having a problems with intermittent video flickering when using Roku 3 and at a separate time using a Roku USB stick. I tried switching HDMI cables however same problem. I also have been using a Playstation 3 with the new Receiver with NO problems. This TV I am using is a 6 month old new Samsung SUHD TV. Any suggestions before I consider returning the receiver?

nunavut 05-28-2017 05:44 PM

Sony Japan's page for the STR-DN1080 shows it does support Dolby Vision!

http://www.sony.jp/audio/products/STR-DN1080

Google Translated page
https://translate.google.com/transla...0/&prev=search

Fizban19 05-29-2017 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aborges (Post 52770481)
It shows as 165w per channel. I would classify it as premium. Room correction has not been tried yet, I have a square room and the speakers are somewhat properly defined... I really wanted to play (DSD) The source of the music file is a 180gram Vinyl Rip (.dsf,.dff). I hope that helps. example: mp3 3mb per song dsf recorded @5.6mhz = 310mb per SONG roughly. DLNA- media streaming from a host device such as "network storage" DSD direct natively decodes 1bit using a proprietary chipset. I will test a few more movies, I kept the bass low cause it rattles my house at night when people are sleeping. Trust me movies and music sound FANTASTIC....

Forget the watts per channel that Sony spouts...it's marketing baloney...

Here is the real spec you need to know...from Crutchfield..."100 watts per channel into 6 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.09% THD, with 2 channels driven". This isn't bad at all...forget the 165W per channel nonsense....

Fachasaurus 05-29-2017 09:30 AM

I read some review on Amazon that claimed that this receiver didn't have a way of showing on screen or on the units display the kind of audio/video you're playing at the time. Usually like on the remote you can press the "display" or "info" button and it would pop with the input and source and output information at the current moment.

Is this true?

pL4tiNumfi5t 05-31-2017 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunavut (Post 53284354)
Sony Japan's page for the STR-DN1080 shows it does support Dolby Vision!


"* Responding to Dolby Vision (TM) will be supported by software update after autumn of 2017"

Welcomed news if it holds true. I haven't been able to find a new Google Cast receiver with Dolby Vision compatibility less than 6.8in tall & I'm currently height restricted with my entertainment center.

jdsmoothie 05-31-2017 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pL4tiNumfi5t (Post 53332106)
"* Responding to Dolby Vision (TM) will be supported by software update after autumn of 2017"

Welcomed news if it holds true. I haven't been able to find a new Google Cast receiver with Dolby Vision compatibility less than 6.8in tall & I'm currently height restricted with my entertainment center.

Regardless of what model AVR you purchase, for proper ventilation you'll want either 3-4" clearance above the AVR with open front/back or to add one or two PC fans to exhaust the air away from the top of the AVR.

bluebaron 06-08-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pL4tiNumfi5t (Post 53332106)
"* Responding to Dolby Vision (TM) will be supported by software update after autumn of 2017"

Welcomed news if it holds true. I haven't been able to find a new Google Cast receiver with Dolby Vision compatibility less than 6.8in tall & I'm currently height restricted with my entertainment center.

True. It definitely says that a DV update will be coming out on the Japanese site. I wonder why it's not mentioned over here.

JoopE 06-20-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebaron (Post 53519729)
True. It definitely says that a DV update will be coming out on the Japanese site. I wonder why it's not mentioned over here.

I checked this today on the dutch site, and also see it on sony.com now:

Quote:

Latest HDR standards such as HDR10, HLG (Hybrid Log-Gamma), and Dolby Vision™ are supported.
A footnote is included:

Quote:

The software update for Dolby Vision is planned for Fall 2017 onwards.

PS. After 9 years I thought this was a good reason to finally make a first post... ;)

Chris Salazar 06-27-2017 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoopE (Post 53770041)
I checked this today on the dutch site, and also see it on sony.com now:



A footnote is included:




PS. After 9 years I thought this was a good reason to finally make a first post... ;)

I own this receiver and I'll confirm that on NETFLIX, I'm getting Dolby Vision. Definitely like the receiver, although I am getting a handshake issue with Chromecast Ultra. Going to buy another Chromecast and try it out - hopefully it's just a faulty Chromecast and not the receiver.

Chromecast works fine - just not Ultra.

ROMIL 06-28-2017 05:55 AM

Awesome to hear DV is or will be supported now! I can get this receiver for $440 with no tax and free shipping from Military Exchange online, so I will probably pull the trigger on it.

ROMIL 07-01-2017 06:33 AM

This is currently on sale at the Military Exchange online for $479 (was $520). With no tax, free shipping, and a 17% off coupon if you create a new account, that brings the out-the-door price to $398. Almost $150 savings over brick and mortar stores when you factor in tax.

Chuck_IV 07-01-2017 08:42 PM

I picked one of these up the other day and I gotta say, I love the thing. I had a Denon X2000 since 2013 and was looking for something to handle Atmos and DTS:X. I was stuck between the X2300 and this. I've had a love/dislike relationship with my X2000 over the years, so I wanted to see what else was out there. After reading some of the rave reviews of the 1080 and thinking that this was a newer model vs the X2300 now being last year's model, I took a bit of a gample(in my mind) and went with the Sony.

So far, I am extremely impressed with the thing. The sound is crisp and detailed and it really surprised me that is sounded so good, more so than my X2000. It's loaded with options as well. I know some say they don;t care for the Sony auto calibration but compared to my X2000, it was more accurate on determining the speaker distances and adjustments it came up with. It also didn't load me up with phase errors which used to annoy me with the Denon. I don't know if Denon finally understood with their newer models that with TV audio via either optical or ARC just needed AUDIO to be changed and not the video, but the Sony does this right. On my X2000, when the ARC would kick in or I'd force it to TV audio(via optical) it would also unnecessarily change the video feed so I would just see a Denon logo. The Sony is smart enough to leave the video alone and just change the audio(even my 2013 Yamaha RV-V675 was smart enough to not change the video).

There are some things that do turn me off a bit and I may miss from Denon. Namely, the amount of HDMI ports. Denon gives you 8 vs 6 but I only use 6 currently. What did annoy me a bit was finding out, after I bought this was that only 5 of the 6 ports support 4:4:4(video1 does not). Why they would do this, I don't know. I hope this will be an issue down the line. Another thing is the lack of individual volume level adjustments on each input. I was very surprised Sony doesn't include this. The last thing that is annoying is the volume delay. When you press the volume up/down, it first displays you currently volume, then after a couple seconds will start to change the volume instead of reacting like everything else and promptly changing the volume immediately.

Otherwise, I am very happy with the sound and this should outweigh the small issues I have with it.

As a note, I have a Tivo Roamio, Sony X800 4K Bly-Ray player, NVidia Shield(2017 model), PS4 Pro, Roku 3 and a PCH A210 hooked up to the thing. With the NVidia Shield able to bitstream the HighDef audio via Plex, the PCH A210 may not be necessary anymore though.

Chuck_IV 07-02-2017 09:43 AM

So with this receiver, Sony supposedly optimizes a couple of the HDMI ports for audio(the BD and the SACD ports). I don't know if this is the cause of it but my NVidia Shield does not like it when it is plugged into the SACD port. I get audio dropouts when streaming and I noticed a wierd flash when videos start. I moved the Shield to the CATV port and put my Tivo on the SACD port and now everything is perfect. It makes me wonder though if this "optimization" will cause issues with other devices down the road.

This and Video1 not able to do 4:4:4 is making me rethink my purchase.

ROMIL 07-02-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 54010609)
So with this receiver, Sony supposedly optimizes a couple of the HDMI ports for audio(the BD and the SACD ports). I don't know if this is the cause of it but my NVidia Shield does not like it when it is plugged into the SACD port. I get audio dropouts when streaming and I noticed a wierd flash when videos start. I moved the Shield to the CATV port and put my Tivo on the SACD port and now everything is perfect. It makes me wonder though if this "optimization" will cause issues with other devices down the road.

This and Video1 not able to do 4:4:4 is making me rethink my purchase.



This is great info. I have my 1080 inbound in the mail. I only have an XBox One and PS4 to connect initially and will be streaming 4K using my inbound 940E's built-in apps, but I do plan on upgrading to PS4 Pro and XBox One X. I wish there was an external streaming device that did 4K with HDR10 and DV support for Amazon, Netflix and Hulu, but I don't believe that exists... unless I am mistaken. From what I hear, trying to use the 940E's built-in apps may be painful.


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Chuck_IV 07-02-2017 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROMIL (Post 54011081)
This is great info. I have my 1080 inbound in the mail. I only have an XBox One and PS4 to connect initially and will be streaming 4K using my inbound 940E's built-in apps, but I do plan on upgrading to PS4 Pro and XBox One X. I wish there was an external streaming device that did 4K with HDR10 and DV support for Amazon, Netflix and Hulu, but I don't believe that exists... unless I am mistaken. From what I hear, trying to use the 940E's built-in apps may be painful.


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Agreed on the streaming device. Seems like they all lack something. With my Samsung TV apps, Netflix/Amazon and Youtube all do 4k and HDR, while Vudu does 4k. However, Hulu drags it down since it doesn't do any type of 4k at all(it only does it on PS4 Pro and XBox One S). Plus, none can do anything above DD5.1 due to ARC/Optical limitations. And the Plex app isn't very powerful on my Samsung. So that is why I went with the NVidia Shield. It seems the closest to being perfect but again falls short. Netflix and Amazon both do 4K HDR, plus with pump out hi res audio when available. Vudu also does 4K and Dolby Atmos audio. Also, the Plex app is phenominal on the Shield, plus it can double as a Plex server. But then it is dragged down again by not only Hulu but also Youtube since Youtube can't do HDR on the Shield(it does do 4K).It is frustrating.

The capabilities of the NVidia shield are what prompted me to buy the Sony 1080. I was looking for more than what my TV apps could generate.

nek 07-04-2017 04:32 PM

Asynchronous USB ??
 
Seems pretty vague - is the front usb port asynchronous then?

Chuck_IV 07-06-2017 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nek (Post 54055921)
Seems pretty vague - is the front usb port asynchronous then?


Honest question, why would you need it to be asynchronous?




As a side note to the rest of the thread, I am keeping the Sony. I picked up a Denon X2300w the other day, thinking I'd like that better. However, after using the Sony for a week, I prefer how Sony does things vs. the Denon. Both have great sound though after calibration.


If I need more HDMI ports, there are 2.0a switches out there that can be added.

nek 07-06-2017 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 54087209)
Honest question, why would you need it to be asynchronous?




As a side note to the rest of the thread, I am keeping the Sony. I picked up a Denon X2300w the other day, thinking I'd like that better. However, after using the Sony for a week, I prefer how Sony does things vs. the Denon. Both have great sound though after calibration.


If I need more HDMI ports, there are 2.0a switches out there that can be added.

A direct wired connection to my iMac sending high resolution files ?

ROMIL 07-06-2017 04:42 PM

Sony Announces Pricing and Availability for STR-DN1080 AVR
 
Just got my 1080 in the mail. Hooked it up to my Sony 940E via the ARC HDMI ports on both the TV and receiver. Using the TV's built-in apps, I was getting sound out of my surround system for a bit, then it just stopped and now I can't get it back. Muting is off. Sounds works fine from other inputs into the receiver.

I've updated the software on both devices, powered everything off and on, and I have the TV set to output sound via Receiver and HDMI Control turned on on the receiver. Not sure what is going on.


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ROMIL 07-06-2017 07:31 PM

Think I figured it out (turning Bravia Sync on did the trick). Now I'm struggling to make the receiver go to the TV input for ARC when turning it and the TV on with my Harmony remote. It will go to TV initially, then switch to the SAT input where my XBox (which is turned off) is connected. About 50% of the time it will then go back to the TV input. The rest of the time it will stay on the SAT input for whatever reason. I'm not sure why it's going to the SAT input at all.


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Chuck_IV 07-06-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROMIL (Post 54103017)
Think I figured it out (turning Bravia Sync on did the trick). Now I'm struggling to make the receiver go to the TV input for ARC when turning it and the TV on with my Harmony remote. It will go to TV initially, then switch to the SAT input where my XBox (which is turned off) is connected. About 50% of the time it will then go back to the TV input. The rest of the time it will stay on the SAT input for whatever reason. I'm not sure why it's going to the SAT input at all.


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I had a bit of a fit with ARC and this receiver. When turning on the TV, it would goto the Sony HOME menu without setting up my remote to spam the Tivo input. Then what would happen to me was if I fired up an app on my TV(Samsung KS8000), the sound would switch over fine and the TV app would be heard and seen fine. However, when I would exit the TV's app, instead of going back to the input I was on, it would show it for a second then again bounce to the Sony HOME menu. I could not get it to stop doing that, no matter what I did. I finally cut my losses and ran an optical cable from the TV to the receiver and programmed my remote(URC MX-810) to manually swap to the TV audio when I pulled up the app menu on my TV. Then when I would exit, I'd have to select what activity I wanted to do next.

This type of weird behavior isn't exclusive to Sony. I know when I tried the Denon X2300(my prior X2000 was similar), no matter I did, when I turned on the TV, I'd end up on the NVidia Shield screen. So it's no different with other brands too.

crayz16 07-08-2017 06:49 AM

Sony STR-DN1080 with Bell Slim Remote
 
Hi all, first time poster here and hoping someone has experience with this.

My setup: LG UH5500 TV, Sony STR-DN1080 Receiver and Bell Fibe (Slim remote). I want to see if I can sync the Sony receiver to the Bell Fibe Slim remote. Anyone have any experience or advice before I resort grabbing a Harmony remote?

Anything is appreciated, thanks!

Chuck_IV 07-08-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayz16 (Post 54131761)
Hi all, first time poster here and hoping someone has experience with this.

My setup: LG UH5500 TV, Sony STR-DN1080 Receiver and Bell Fibe (Slim remote). I want to see if I can sync the Sony receiver to the Bell Fibe Slim remote. Anyone have any experience or advice before I resort grabbing a Harmony remote?

Anything is appreciated, thanks!

Unless your Bell Fiber remote can learn commands, I doubt you have much luck with syncing them beyond the power/volume/mute buttons. If you need more control than that, a Harmony 650 is the way to go. FYI, the 650 doesn't work with the Harmony hub as it is an IR only remote. It doesn't do RF.

Chuck_IV 07-09-2017 03:17 AM

Alright, this thing is again testing my patience and again making me rethink my purchase. I noticed that sometimes when it changes inputs, it is SLOW to change, with upwards of 10 seconds of blank screen and no sound before finally seeing a picture and then finally audio. Other times, I'll get a picture somewhat quickly buit the audio will take another 5 seconds to start coming through. I have tried to reproduce it but it is very inconsistent. Sometimes going to a specific input takes just a few seconds, but then the next time it may take upwards of 10 seconds. A couple times I though it had froze up or something, only to force a change to another input then back to the original one to get a picture. I have seen a few reviews mentioning the slowness, so it's not just me. I think this also goes along with the slow volume reactions too(which is getting more annoying as well).

With the Denon X3300 now coming way down in price to only $100 more then the Sony and the X3300 having the ability to do GUI over 4K, which was my major hangup with the X2300, I am thinking of going that route as I know what to expect from Denon(had an X2000 for 4+ years).

Selden Ball 07-09-2017 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 54146769)
Alright, this thing is again testing my patience and again making me rethink my purchase. I noticed that sometimes when it changes inputs, it is SLOW to change, with upwards of 10 seconds of blank screen and no sound before finally seeing a picture and then finally audio. Other times, I'll get a picture somewhat quickly buit the audio will take another 5 seconds to start coming through. I have tried to reproduce it but it is very inconsistent. Sometimes going to a specific input takes just a few seconds, but then the next time it may take upwards of 10 seconds. A couple times I though it had froze up or something, only to force a change to another input then back to the original one to get a picture. I have seen a few reviews mentioning the slowness, so it's not just me. I think this also goes along with the slow volume reactions too(which is getting more annoying as well).

With the Denon X3300 now coming way down in price to only $100 more then the Sony and the X3300 having the ability to do GUI over 4K, which was my major hangup with the X2300, I am thinking of going that route as I know what to expect from Denon(had an X2000 for 4+ years).

Random delays in synchronization might be due to poorly performing HDMI cables. When HDMI signals are marginal, modern AV equipment can become, well, erratic. The usual recommendation is to use only "Certified Premium" cables. They're available from lots of companies and are no more expensive than the no-name "High Speed" cables but come with a certification tag.

Chuck_IV 07-09-2017 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selden Ball (Post 54147657)
Random delays in synchronization might be due to poorly performing HDMI cables. When HDMI signals are marginal, modern AV equipment can become, well, erratic. The usual recommendation is to use only "Certified Premium" cables. They're available from lots of companies and are no more expensive than the no-name "High Speed" cables but come with a certification tag.

These are brand new SecurOMax cables(1 ft and 3ft versions) which have worked for me in the 15ft variety(before I had a 4K capable receiver).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For tests, I swapped them around to see if things would change but it didn't.

Venomnusss 07-11-2017 06:13 AM

Hi All,

Just purchased the 1080 to replace a Sony STR DG920..... I have it connected up to a 7.1 Speaker set up. Set up went well. Everything looks and sounds great.
Then I noticed when the 1080 is off I was hearing a slight hum from my sub woofer... Sure enough the Subwoofer led was green and it was on. The Sub is an Elemental Designs with auto stand by circuitry.
I moved the Subwoofer connection to the other sub out on the 1080 and no difference still has a hum.. I got another sub from my bedroom and put it in it's place. This powered sub also stayed on after the 1080 was shut off.
Went to the Sony site to do some trouble shooting and found that Sony says to turn off auto on circuits.. So you are essentially leaving your sub on all the time... And many powered subs don't give you the option of shutting the auto sense off...
I realize the sub is on all the time even when the auto off circuit is working and that it's intended job is just to make sure the sub stays quiet on occasions just like this.
Has anyone else noticed any sub hum?

http://eyecit.net/3rdPartyImages/1080/1080sub.png

Chuck_IV 07-11-2017 06:57 AM

I haven't noticed any hum on mine (Mirage Omni S8). At least it's not noticeable.


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Selden Ball 07-11-2017 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomnusss (Post 54190905)
Has anyone else noticed any sub hum?

A hum coming from the subwoofer usually is a symptom of what's commonly called a "ground loop". Some A/V devices are more sensitive to this than others.

There are two major causes:

1. A poorly grounded cable TV (or satellite) connection.

This cause can be verified by disconnecting and powering off the cable TV STB. If that's the primary cause, the hum should be substantially reduced.

A workaround is to use an isolation transformer in-line with the cable connection. The fix is to get the cable grounded properly where it enters your home. This is a personal safety issue, so the cable company should be willing to do this for free.

2. powering A/V equipment from two different phases of incoming power.

In the U.S, most homes are provided with two separate phases of power. Different wall outlets are connected to one or the other. When A/V devices are not all connected to the same phase of power, current flows between them and causes them to hum.

This type of hum can be minimized by powering everything from a single power strip, so they all get their power from the same wall socket. Alternatively you can test each wall outlet and use only those connected to the same phase.

Venomnusss 07-11-2017 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selden Ball (Post 54192417)
A hum coming from the subwoofer usually is a symptom of what's commonly called a "ground loop". Some A/V devices are more sensitive to this than others.

There are two major causes:

1. A poorly grounded cable TV (or satellite) connection.

This cause can be verified by disconnecting and powering off the cable TV STB. If that's the primary cause, the hum should be substantially reduced.

A workaround is to use an isolation transformer in-line with the cable connection. The fix is to get the cable grounded properly where it enters your home. This is a personal safety issue, so the cable company should be willing to do this for free.

2. powering A/V equipment from two different phases of incoming power.

In the U.S, most homes are provided with two separate phases of power. Different wall outlets are connected to one or the other. When A/V devices are not all connected to the same phase of power, current flows between them and causes them to hum.

This type of hum can be minimized by powering everything from a single power strip, so they all get their power from the same wall socket. Alternatively you can test each wall outlet and use only those connected to the same phase.



Thanks for the response...

#2 sounds like it may be the culprit.. All the equipment is in another room. The sub is the only thing being powered in the living room and it is very far away. I will run a long extension cord and see if the hum goes away..

Update. It was the AC outlet.. Figuring out a way to fix that... Thanks for the help.

Rikachu 07-11-2017 03:43 PM

Hey everyone, I’m also thinking of picking one of these up.

Could current owners answer a couple of questions please?

1) Can video/audio be output via both HDMIs at the same time? (Thinking of my DreamScreen! But also PS4 HDR out of one, PSVR out of the other so I don’t need to keep unplugging)
2) When playing video content via TV app such as Netflix, does pressing menu on the receiver pull you out of the app?

Thanks in advance!

pos1121 07-11-2017 04:38 PM

[quote=Venomnusss;54190905]Hi All,

Just purchased the 1080 to replace a Sony STR DG920..... I have it connected up to a 7.1 Speaker set up. Set up went well. Everything looks and sounds great.
Then I noticed when the 1080 is off I was hearing a slight hum from my sub woofer... Sure enough the Subwoofer led was green and it was on. The Sub is an Elemental Designs with auto stand by circuitry.
I moved the Subwoofer connection to the other sub out on the 1080 and no difference still has a hum.. I got another sub from my bedroom and put it in it's place. This powered sub also stayed on after the 1080 was shut off.
Went to the Sony site to do some trouble shooting and found that Sony says to turn off auto on circuits.. So you are essentially leaving your sub on all the time... And many powered subs don't give you the option of shutting the auto sense off...
I realize the sub is on all the time even when the auto off circuit is working and that it's intended job is just to make sure the sub stays quiet on occasions just like this.
Has anyone else noticed any sub hum?


I'm having an issue with the dual sub output as well.

Are both outputs active at the same time? I ask because I have 2 Def Tech Powermonitors with a Y Splitter and a B&W 675. I had one set going to the Def Techs and the other output to the B&W but only one output was working. I switched and then the other speaker/s would work but not the output from what I would term the second pre-out. So the same pre-out would work is what I'm trying to convey.

I have also rifled through the speaker settings and don't see a .2 setting for a second sub. I've looked through the manual and this forum along with Google without resolve.

Am I correct in my explanation above or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Chuck_IV 07-11-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikachu (Post 54205169)
Hey everyone, I’m also thinking of picking one of these up.

Could current owners answer a couple of questions please?

1) Can video/audio be output via both HDMIs at the same time? (Thinking of my DreamScreen! But also PS4 HDR out of one, PSVR out of the other so I don’t need to keep unplugging)
2) When playing video content via TV app such as Netflix, does pressing menu on the receiver pull you out of the app?

Thanks in advance!

I can't answer #1 since I haven't used the 2nd HDMI port, but on #2 , when you press the menu button on the receiver, the menu appears on a black background(you will no long see the video feed). You will lose sound for a couple seconds while the menu comes up. The sound will come back just before the menu appears. It will not kick you out of anything going on with the source you are viewing. You just won't be able to see the source until you close the menu.

adepoyu 07-11-2017 06:35 PM

Hi All,

I will be receiving this Sony 1080 and a Denon 3300 in a couple of days. I liked the Sony in the first place, but I own a 7.1 4-Ohm speaker set and I'm afraid I will have to keep the Denon.

Has anyone tried this Sony receiver with 4 Ohm speakers?
Has anyone had any experience in using 4 Ohm speakers with 6 Ohm rated receivers?, Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

Venomnusss 07-11-2017 09:08 PM

[quote=pos1121;54206553]
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Originally Posted by Venomnusss (Post 54190905)
Hi All,

Just purchased the 1080 to replace a Sony STR DG920..... I have it connected up to a 7.1 Speaker set up. Set up went well. Everything looks and sounds great.
Then I noticed when the 1080 is off I was hearing a slight hum from my sub woofer... Sure enough the Subwoofer led was green and it was on. The Sub is an Elemental Designs with auto stand by circuitry.
I moved the Subwoofer connection to the other sub out on the 1080 and no difference still has a hum.. I got another sub from my bedroom and put it in it's place. This powered sub also stayed on after the 1080 was shut off.
Went to the Sony site to do some trouble shooting and found that Sony says to turn off auto on circuits.. So you are essentially leaving your sub on all the time... And many powered subs don't give you the option of shutting the auto sense off...
I realize the sub is on all the time even when the auto off circuit is working and that it's intended job is just to make sure the sub stays quiet on occasions just like this.
Has anyone else noticed any sub hum?


I'm having an issue with the dual sub output as well.

Are both outputs active at the same time? I ask because I have 2 Def Tech Powermonitors with a Y Splitter and a B&W 675. I had one set going to the Def Techs and the other output to the B&W but only one output was working. I switched and then the other speaker/s would work but not the output from what I would term the second pre-out. So the same pre-out would work is what I'm trying to convey.

I have also rifled through the speaker settings and don't see a .2 setting for a second sub. I've looked through the manual and this forum along with Google without resolve.

Am I correct in my explanation above or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for your help.

I tried each one individually and they both worked, But I have not tried them both at the same time. I did come across an article while researching my problem that talked about using both sub outputs at one time. It mentioned it was critical to make sure both subs did not have the auto off circuits turned on.

pos1121 07-12-2017 04:26 AM

[quote=Venomnusss;54211657]
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Originally Posted by pos1121 (Post 54206553)

I tried each one individually and they both worked, But I have not tried them both at the same time. I did come across an article while researching my problem that talked about using both sub outputs at one time. It mentioned it was critical to make sure both subs did not have the auto off circuits turned on.

I'll turn off the auto circuit and see if that works.

Thanks

qirex 07-12-2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adepoyu (Post 54209121)
Hi All,

I will be receiving this Sony 1080 and a Denon 3300 in a couple of days. I liked the Sony in the first place, but I own a 7.1 4-Ohm speaker set and I'm afraid I will have to keep the Denon.

Has anyone tried this Sony receiver with 4 Ohm speakers?
Has anyone had any experience in using 4 Ohm speakers with 6 Ohm rated receivers?, Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

I'm curious to hear about your results as I'm shopping for a receiver for 3.1 with 4 ohm speakers

mshe 07-12-2017 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adepoyu (Post 54209121)
Has anyone tried this Sony receiver with 4 Ohm speakers?
Has anyone had any experience in using 4 Ohm speakers with 6 Ohm rated receivers?, Any advice?

While the receiver is rated for 6 Ohms+, you can run a 4 Ohms load, it just means you'll have to use a higher volume. You'll be placing a greater load on the receiver, but this should be fine unless you like things really loud. For home theatre I don't think it'll be an issue, whereas it probably will be if you intend on playing music loudly all day long.

[quote=Venomnusss;54211657]
Quote:

Originally Posted by pos1121 (Post 54206553)
I tried each one individually and they both worked, But I have not tried them both at the same time. I did come across an article while researching my problem that talked about using both sub outputs at one time. It mentioned it was critical to make sure both subs did not have the auto off circuits turned on.

Yes, both should be active (it's basically a Y splitter). I have my subwoofer connected to one and my bass shaker amp to the other.

Also, no hum on my subwoofer output or shakers. I have a SVS PB-1000 subwoofer.

pos1121 07-14-2017 10:00 AM

Yes, both should be active (it's basically a Y splitter). I have my subwoofer connected to one and my bass shaker amp to the other.

Also, no hum on my subwoofer output or shakers. I have a SVS PB-1000 subwoofer.[/QUOTE]

In reading your response and re-reading mine, if not clear- is that one out seemed to be working while the other wasn't. I haven't had a chance to do so yet but does it really make a difference in turning the auto-sense off?
If not- I'll get one more Y-splitter for the out that works.

adepoyu 07-19-2017 11:30 PM

Hi,

Well, here are my impressions with both receivers.

I received the Sony on monday and I've been using it since then. Coming from an old average Pioneer, when I first run the Sony I was totally blown away by its sound quality. The setup is pretty fast and simple and in a few minutes I was enjoying music and movie sound as I hadn't experienced before. The downside... I don't know if it's because of my 4-Ohm speaker set or maybe a not so grilled enclosure, but it gets VERY hot. Power consumption is very good, with 50 Watts when idle, 70-80W when pushing it and 2-3W in stand-by. When Hdmi standby through is enabled, it jumps to 26W, which is not a good sign, and I hope it gets sorted in a future firmware upgrade. But overall, very happy with it, and impressed with sound quality.

Yesterday I received the Denon. The calibration takes much more time but it pays off... Amazing sound quality. I could tell it was better than the Sony, but there were some issues with it:
- First, I was getting strange video quality due to some image processing. I had to spend some time navigating through the menus until I finally found out how to get rid of it, basically choosing game mode over movie disables all of them to get a faster image response.
- It doesn't have Bluetooth emitter, which means I have to pair my bluetooth headphones to each sound source individually instead of doing it just one time for the AV. I could get a separate bluetooth emitter, but it would be nicer having a built in one.
- Power consumption is considerably higher. 70W when idle 80-90W when pushing it. Hdmi standby through is much better, with only 7W.
- It gets hot obviously, but less than the Sony... that's great!

So, when I finally corrected the video processing issue with the Denon, I was sure I would keep this one. But then I tried to calibrate the Sony to try to improve the sound closer to the Denon, because the difference was more obvious only in spatial sound definition. The Denon did a better job with a wider sonic stage and it was much easier to tell where the sound was exactly coming from in any of the ATMOS tests from the Dolby demo disc. What I did was copying the speaker levels from the Denon Audissey calibration to the Sony. I also disabled in the Sony the default AUTO speaker phasing correction, and just like that I had the Sony sound just like the Denon, quite a noticeably jump in quality...

So now, I'm totally confused and don't know which one to keep. As I said, I liked the Sony in the first place. it's sleek, sound quality is just there with the Denon, it's just been released which I hope means that will still have some room for improvement in upgrades from Sony, and it has Bluetooth emitter. But I don't like it getting too hot. I'm wondering if using 4-Ohm speakers might be too much for it...

In the other hand, the Denon sounds just a liiitle bit better. It consumes more power, yes, but it doesn't get as hot as the Sony, and it's able to drive 4 Ohm speakers. I only have one subwoofer, but it also has the ability to drive two. So basically, there's a feeling of a more robust and superior amplifier, but I'm missing that Bluetooth emitter...

I spent all the afternoon/evening comparing both of them and today I will be back for some more. I like the Sony, but I'm starting to turn to the Denon now...

mshe 07-20-2017 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pos1121 (Post 54276497)
In reading your response and re-reading mine, if not clear- is that one out seemed to be working while the other wasn't. I haven't had a chance to do so yet but does it really make a difference in turning the auto-sense off?
If not- I'll get one more Y-splitter for the out that works.


Both my outputs work... what I meant was that internally inside the receiver, it is wired like a Y-splitter. Both external sub outputs have the same signal and both should be active.

pos1121 07-20-2017 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mshe (Post 54405729)
Both my outputs work... what I meant was that internally inside the receiver, it is wired like a Y-splitter. Both external sub outputs have the same signal and both should be active.

Yes that's how I envisioned it as well. At first I thought I needed to set my speakers to small- they have built in subs. It does seem to be working now though. Thanks for the feedback. Now I need to get the bass tamed.

Thanks again,

Chuck_IV 07-20-2017 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adepoyu (Post 54405345)
Hi,



Well, here are my impressions with both receivers.



I received the Sony on monday and I've been using it since then. Coming from an old average Pioneer, when I first run the Sony I was totally blown away by its sound quality. The setup is pretty fast and simple and in a few minutes I was enjoying music and movie sound as I hadn't experienced before. The downside... I don't know if it's because of my 4-Ohm speaker set or maybe a not so grilled enclosure, but it gets VERY hot. Power consumption is very good, with 50 Watts when idle, 70-80W when pushing it and 2-3W in stand-by. When Hdmi standby through is enabled, it jumps to 26W, which is not a good sign, and I hope it gets sorted in a future firmware upgrade. But overall, very happy with it, and impressed with sound quality.



Yesterday I received the Denon. The calibration takes much more time but it pays off... Amazing sound quality. I could tell it was better than the Sony, but there were some issues with it:

- First, I was getting strange video quality due to some image processing. I had to spend some time navigating through the menus until I finally found out how to get rid of it, basically choosing game mode over movie disables all of them to get a faster image response.

- It doesn't have Bluetooth emitter, which means I have to pair my bluetooth headphones to each sound source individually instead of doing it just one time for the AV. I could get a separate bluetooth emitter, but it would be nicer having a built in one.

- Power consumption is considerably higher. 70W when idle 80-90W when pushing it. Hdmi standby through is much better, with only 7W.

- It gets hot obviously, but less than the Sony... that's great!



So, when I finally corrected the video processing issue with the Denon, I was sure I would keep this one. But then I tried to calibrate the Sony to try to improve the sound closer to the Denon, because the difference was more obvious only in spatial sound definition. The Denon did a better job with a wider sonic stage and it was much easier to tell where the sound was exactly coming from in any of the ATMOS tests from the Dolby demo disc. What I did was copying the speaker levels from the Denon Audissey calibration to the Sony. I also disabled in the Sony the default AUTO speaker phasing correction, and just like that I had the Sony sound just like the Denon, quite a noticeably jump in quality...



So now, I'm totally confused and don't know which one to keep. As I said, I liked the Sony in the first place. it's sleek, sound quality is just there with the Denon, it's just been released which I hope means that will still have some room for improvement in upgrades from Sony, and it has Bluetooth emitter. But I don't like it getting too hot. I'm wondering if using 4-Ohm speakers might be too much for it...



In the other hand, the Denon sounds just a liiitle bit better. It consumes more power, yes, but it doesn't get as hot as the Sony, and it's able to drive 4 Ohm speakers. I only have one subwoofer, but it also has the ability to drive two. So basically, there's a feeling of a more robust and superior amplifier, but I'm missing that Bluetooth emitter...



I spent all the afternoon/evening comparing both of them and today I will be back for some more. I like the Sony, but I'm starting to turn to the Denon now...



I had the same decision to make and I chose the Denon. I really liked the Sony but there were a few things that had aggravated me on the Sony. I mentioned them in prior posts in this thread, so I won't rehash them here.

I just felt like with the two being similar price, I got a better value with the Denon and I was very impressed with the MultiEQ X32 Audyssey set up.


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