i have question : i have a 4400h and would like upgrade to the voice of god Speaker . But now i see in the manual that the Pre out therefor the Subwoofer 2 Pre is. Can i than only use 1 subwoofer for a upgrade to the VoG Speaker ?

No, rather you can add a second sub by using a "Y" splitter cable connected to the Sub Pre-Out 1; however, you would then lose independent volume control of each sub.

Turned my system on last night to watch a blu ray. A notice popped up on the TV that an update was available for my Denon AVR. I decided not to update at the time, so I could get more info about the update. Went to the Denon web site, and it said the latest update was from 17 Nov 17. Denon does not list the new firmware change or have any info about it. If the company itself does not post any info about the firmware how is JD supposed to post info? I like my Denon AVR, but they are skimping on their updates/customer service department.

Afternoon folks! Here's hope someone can help me.

I have just installed a Denon AVR-S930H receiver in a 5.1 configuration, and all seemed OK. I am however having problems as the receiver is apparently not sending Audio along with Video via HDMI Out. Here is the configuration:

Receiver: Denon AVR-S930H
All connections are HDMI
Source: Apple TV 4K connected to HDMI 5
Bedroom TV1: HiSense 65H8C 4K TV connected to Monitor 1 HDMI out - all good here as the audio comes out of the regular room speakers connected to the receiver.
Bathroom TV2: Sony Bravia KDL32EX400 1080p TV connected BEHIND a Panasonic SCHTB10 Slim Sound Bar, itself connected to Monitor 2 HDMI out - No Audio from SoundBar.

The Panasonic SoundBar can decode both Dolby & DTS, so the HDMI output from the Receiver goes to it 1st, and then the SoundBar HDMI output goes to the Sony TV for Video Only.

Scenario 1: Connecting the Apple TV directly to the Panasonic SoundBar via HDMI allows for audio from the bar, as well as video to appear on the connected Sony TV. - HDMI Path that WORKS: Apple TV 4K => Panasonic SoundBar => Sony TV

Scenario 2: Connecting the Apple TV to HDMI 5 of the Denon receiver, and then connecting the Panasonic SoundBar & Sony TV through EITHER Monitor 1 or Monitor 2, there is NO SoundBar SOUND, just video! - HDMI Path that FAILS: Apple TV 4K => Denon => Panasonic SoundBar => Sony TV

I cannot seem to get the Denon Receiver to output sound though either HDMI Monitor 1 or 2 Outputs! Switching the SoundBar between them makes no difference. I tried to set HDMI audio to both TV and AVR in the Denon configuration, and same result, no Audio. See HDMI SETUP Screenshot Attached!

Do I have a bad receiver or is there a diferent setting I am missing in the Denon HDMI configuration to also output Audio?

The 2nd issue is that if the HiSense TV is on, and the SoundBar & Sony TV are powered off, the AppleTV 4K, HiSense TV and Receiver will output 4K video, and thats good. However, as soon as the SoundBar or the Sony TV which is only 1080P are turned on, the resolution drops to 1080P for BOTH TV's! Is there a way to keep them separated, as they are connected to Denon's HDMI Monitor 1 and 2 respectively? I know buying another 4K TV for the bathroom will likely solve this issue, but can't seem to find one as most 4K TV's are larger then 32".

Thank you in advance!

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I figured as much... I asked this question for my old Denon s720h and was hoping the highest level of Audyssey would allow me to do this, but I guess not.

Unfortunately I only have 1 place I can place my sub in my tiny 600 SF apartment so I can't do a subcrawl. It still sounds pretty good in that spot, but I guess good is relative.

Thanks!

Hoping someone can help me out with this. I have an X300W receiver. When playing sources in TrueHD or Atmos, the manual says there should be settings under "Surround Parameter" for "Loudness Management" and "Dynamic Compression" but I only see "Cinema EQ" and "Low Frequency Effects" available. I confirmed the signal source is Dolby TrueHD/Atmos but I can't access these settings. Reason I ask is I watching a movie the other day in TrueHD and it definitely sounded like some type dynamic range compression was on but I couldn't find a way to turn it off. I also confirmed dynamic volume is off. Is there anything that would prevent these from showing up?

Try doing a "soft reset" by powering off the AVR and unplugging the power cord for 10 minutes. Then pass the source through again and see if these settings appear.

As the note at the bottom of that image suggests, did you set HDMI Control to OFF?

Correct. There is no difference in how Audyssey works between the various versions in this regard.

Thanks jdsmoothie! YES, by setting HDMI Control to OFF I am able to change Audio Output between "AVR" and "TV". If changed to TV while a source is playing, audio is indeed passed through HDMI to the SoundBar, but then the local bedroom speakers are no longer driven by the receiver. It seems the 2 modes are exclusive and I am unable to have BOTH.

I need to have the Bedroom speakers engaged (through the Receiver), while the Bathroom SoundBar is also getting sound through HDMI. My old Sony Receiver must have had an HDMI "AVR+TV" Audio Option. Any suggestions on how to achieve this?

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Correct. Although some brands do allow both "AVR + TV", with Denon it's an either/or setting. You will need to purchase an HDMI switch/splitter (eg. Monoprice 4x2 - https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_...0aAgaLEALw_wcB).

Well, even though I prefer Yamaha receivers, I just bought a refurbished X4400H from Accessories4less. Can someone tell me which Yamaha Aventage model the X4400H most closely matches up with?

It was somewhat of an impulse buy in that I haven't done a lot of research on the Denon line but it looks like a stout AVR at what seemed to be a great price.

Yamaha A2070.

Thank you...

I appreciate the clarification jdsmoothie. Good to know that Denon Receivers do not offer "AVR+TV" HDMI Audio Out option. Wish they had that clearly defined in the specifications sheet. Very disappointed now.

Also, thanks for the switch/splitter link. I had actually found and ordered a similar device from Amazon that is both an HDMI splitter and a scaler as to solve both the audio passthrough and the dual resolution (4K + 1080P) issue simultaneously. I will post back once I test it out.

Hi all. I have a simple question to ask for PS4 Pro owners. I have an x4400 powering a 5.1.4 setup, and I know that the PS4 currently isn't able to utilize Atmos in its titles. With that said, which surround sound option is best to use for games on the Pro, is it "Multi In + Dolby Surround"? "Multi In + Neural:X"? Or something else? Or does it depend on the game?

Thanks for the time!

Not a gamer ... however, as with any sound mode ... the best one is the one that sounds best to you ... not someone on a forum.

I wasn?t sure which thread to post this in, the 2016 thread or this one. I decided to post here obviously.

I?m planning to purchase a new Denon receiver in the next few weeks or month and I?m just looking for some opinions. I have it narrowed down to 2 models, the 2016 S920W or the current S930H.

I?m looking to buy from accessories4less.com and the S920W is cheaper right now but not by much. I?m mainly interested in Atmos and 4K HDR/Dolby Vision support which I know both have. I?m not really concerned with HEOS support. Basically, even though the prices are close, in your opinion, would it be better to save a little and get the 920 or go ahead and get the 930? Are there any internal component improvements in the 930 that would benefit audio or video quality?

Thanks for the thoughts.

Generally better to get the more current model if there is no real difference in price as it will be supported longer. The S930H also features a 32bit DAC and you may be surprised how convenient having HEOS support can be especially if you use an Echo or Echo Dot to control the AVR using voice commands.

Having second thoughts on my recently purchased, still in-transit Denon x2400H. I'm reading a lot about how incredibly hot these units get. Is this overblown, or simply people who aren't properly ventilating their receivers? Does the 2400 get hotter than a 3400?

If a legitimate concern, to me it's a sign of poor engineering and build quality and I'll just return the Denon and opt for a cooler-running (allegedly) Yamaha from Costco. Adding an external fan is not an option; if Denon is so poorly designed that it requires an external cooling device, then I don't want it. I need this receiver to last at least five years, hopefully more.

I'll store it in a cabinet that's closed in the front, open in the back, its shelf will be vented below the receiver, with several inches above the unit all clear.

I appreciate all the experience from you current owners. Thanks!

Both, however, you'll either want to leave the front cabinet door open for proper ventilation or add an external fan (eg. AC Infinity Aircom T8) which exhausts to the rear.

X6400H and PMA520 hiss

Hi, is it "normal to get a low volume hiss from the 520 when i use the pre-out from the 6400 ?
(i can hear the tweeter hiss when i am very near the speaker)
The hiss starts and stays on the same level from 20% 520 volume to 100%.
I need to run the 520 at 50% volume to get Audyssey to set that channel at +0.5 other channels on the 6200 are around -4.0
When i set the 520 at a lower volume Audyssey can not set it any more.


When i pull the RCA cable its silent, no hiss.

I have the Denon S730H and I have not much room for ventilation and it is open at the front but about 1.5 inches on either side and about 0.5 inches on the top and completely open at the back. I know it’s not good, but I bought the tv stand before the receiver and it’s the only spot for the receiver to go. I don’t listen to anything at source level as I live in a semi detached house and honestly I don’t have any issues. I have watched hours upon hours of movies and played video games around -40 volume (which is really loud in basement for my wife and I) and I have felt the receiver many times and it’s warm but not hot and nothing to be concerned with. But that’s my own personal experience


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As jdsmoothie said, it pretty much boils down to personal preference. In my opinion, you should basically look to Multi In + Dolby Surround or Multi In + Neural:X. Either of those are going to bring audio to your top speakers, but they don't necessarily produce the same results (I've read here that Dolby Surround Upmixing produces "better" results). So, you're looking at trial and error.

Last night I fired up Diablo 3 while waiting for Battlefield 1 to finish patching and it was my first non-ATMOS game I played. I used Multi In + Dolby Surround and was very pleased with the results. The crumbling of Heaven did come from the top speakers and ambiance was portrayed perfectly. Sadly, I ran out of time before getting to Battlefield 1, but I am really looking forward to how that game gets upmixed. It's got such stellar audio design that's very immersive in 5.1

Thanks; that's a great comparison. I'll have a lot more room all around my unit and have about the same listening habits, so I'm thinking I'll be OK. It's still concerning to me that these get so much warmer than other brands. Puts such a dark cloud over the Denon brand in my mind. But...that cloud may be lifted once I hear it in action!

I recently purchased an LG OLED65C7P and upgraded my speakers at the same time (GoldenEar HTR-7000 in-ceiling). While the picture quality has been fantastic, I have had nothing but problems with audio/video sync. At first I thought it was all the fault of the LG which has well-documented audio lag issues. I stopped using ARC and that solved the issue with my TiVO Roamio, but my Apple TV 4K continued to be a pain. Stereo sound is fine but when using apps on the Apple TV that output Dolby 5.1 or LPCM multi-channel, there is a noticeable delay (audio ahead of video).

I threw in the towel trying to get my old Yamaha RX-V675 to work with this setup (it can only pass through 4K @ 30 Hz and doesn't support any HDR formats anyway) and last night purchased a Denon AVR-X4400H. While I'm pretty happy with the sound coming out of this new AVR, the Apple TV sync issue is still present. Stereo audio is perfectly synced with 0 ms delay adjustment on the AVR, but Dolby 5.1 and LPCM require a 120 ms delay adjustment in order to get things in sync. Unfortunately there is no way to have the AVR apply 0 ms delay for stereo but 120 ms delay for surround on the same input. Having to constantly change the delay back and forth is unfeasible. Has anyone else encountered this? I can't figure out if it is an Apple TV issue or a Denon AVR issue, or a LG TV issue.

In addition, the Apple TV outputs 4K Dolby Vision @ 60 Hz but when I have this setting selected, the Denon on screen display does not work (i.e. trying to change volume normally brings up a graphic on screen most of the time when using my setup but if I am using Dolby Vision there is nothing displayed on screen). I found this quote on the Denon UK website, so I'm guessing this is a known limitation:

Does anyone know if this can be fixed with a firmware update? If not, I think I will return the AVR as it is clearly not quite ready for prime time and maybe the 2018 models will have true Dolby Vision support? All in all I've spent close to $8,000 on this new setup and it has way more bugs than the Plasma/1080p setup I was coming from - very frustrating and disappointing!

I just set up my system last night. I could not download a firmware. Lan or wireless, it would fail error 00009.

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Just give it another go.

Lol I have been, I'll keep trying though

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