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jdsmoothie 04-10-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by acejh1987 (Post 52145657)
Is there any chance of 2017 models lower than the x4400 having 9 ch amps (or maybe 9 ch processing)? or have those specs from post 1 been confirmed. I know the x4300 got a bump up over the x4200 last time.

Highly unlikely, especially as 80% of most owners only have a 5.1 setup or less, however, only the specs of the 3 "S" series have been confirmed.

jdsmoothie 04-10-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mihixson (Post 52145705)
Hey jd, was wondering if I could get a quote on an X4300H, not enough posts to PM you yet. Finally picked up an OLED and looking to go to a 5.1.4 atmos setup shortly, and my old Pioneer isn't gonna cut it. Still debating on waiting for the 4400 or getting the current model, but being stuck at 1080p with my current receiver is making it hard to wait. Thanks!

Sent you a PM.

jdsmoothie 04-10-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ryu4000 (Post 52155401)
Are the new denons releasing this week heard on slickdeals someone say it is. I'm hoping for a price drop on s720 since the new series will be dropping soon.

The S530BT, S730H, and S930H should be released in the next week or two.

KD5MDK 04-10-2017 11:31 PM

Class 1 Bluetooth is new for the 2017 Model Year, right? Previous models should have shorter range?

jdsmoothie 04-11-2017 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK (Post 52162353)
Class 1 Bluetooth is new for the 2017 Model Year, right? Previous models should have shorter range?

Nope. Only new for the new 2017 "H" series models as the 2016 Denon X4300H and X6300H both have Class 1 Bluetooth as well.

mrtickleuk 04-11-2017 06:28 AM

from post 1

"- Audyssey iOS/Android phone app ($20) - using the Audyssey mic, provides the ability to customize target curves, save them, and share them with others – ETA April 2017"

As the app has now been launched, the end bit isn't needed :)

WildBoar 04-11-2017 06:35 AM

X6300H vs X6400H?
 
Do you know any differences between them or are they too much subtle?

jdsmoothie 04-11-2017 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBoar (Post 52165033)
Do you know any differences between them or are they too much subtle?

Specs on the X6400H won't likely be released until August.

jdsmoothie 04-11-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrtickleuk (Post 52164921)
from post 1

"- Audyssey iOS/Android phone app ($20) - using the Audyssey mic, provides the ability to customize target curves, save them, and share them with others – ETA April 2017"

As the app has now been launched, the end bit isn't needed :)

Removed. :)

Wesley Heilman 04-11-2017 12:11 PM

I'm in the market for a new receiver. I am currently using a Denon AVR-X1000 with a Vizio P65-C1. I am wanting to upgrade to take full advantage of 4K and HDR - right now I am having to run my PS4 Pro & Xbox One S to the TV and use ARC to get audio back to the receiver and am wanting to avoid this for better sound quality.

I was looking at purchasing the Denon AVR-X1300W. Would this receiver take full advantage of everything my TV has to offer? Such as HDR10, Dolby Vision, 4K60Hz, etc. I can get it for $400 new on Amazon, which seems like a good deal.

Also I am currently using:
(2) Sony SS-F7000
(2) Sony SS-F6000
(1) Polk CS2 Series II
(1) JBL CS6100 Sub

I also have a (1) Polk PSW10 and (5) JBL CS6100 Satellite speakers I could add/change out with a new receiver.

My main question is: should I wait for the new X-series or jump the gun on the X1300W? What features would I most likely be missing out on and/or what feature would I most likely lose? Also would the X1300W have plenty of power for my speaker set-up or would it be better to look at the S720W/S920W/S730H/S930H?

All help is appreciated! Thanks!

jdsmoothie 04-11-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Heilman (Post 52173481)
I'm in the market for a new receiver. I am currently using a Denon AVR-X1000 with a Vizio P65-C1. I am wanting to upgrade to take full advantage of 4K and HDR - right now I am having to run my PS4 Pro & Xbox One S to the TV and use ARC to get audio back to the receiver and am wanting to avoid this for better sound quality.

I was looking at purchasing the Denon AVR-X1300W. Would this receiver take full advantage of everything my TV has to offer? Such as HDR10, Dolby Vision, 4K60Hz, etc. I can get it for $400 new on Amazon, which seems like a good deal.

Also I am currently using:
(2) Sony SS-F7000
(2) Sony SS-F6000
(1) Polk CS2 Series II
(1) JBL CS6100 Sub

I also have a (1) Polk PSW10 and (5) JBL CS6100 Satellite speakers I could add/change out with a new receiver.

My main question is: should I wait for the new X-series or jump the gun on the X1300W? What features would I most likely be missing out on and/or what feature would I most likely lose? Also would the X1300W have plenty of power for my speaker set-up or would it be better to look at the S720W/S920W/S730H/S930H?

All help is appreciated! Thanks!


The specs have not been released yet on the new 2017 lower level "X" series models; however, there would be no power difference between any of the models you list and all of them could easily drive those speakers. The 2017 models will be have Dolby Vision from the factory. None of the models you list can overlay the GUI/menu on 4k video, rather you must upgrade to the X3300W or newer X3400H for this feature.

Wesley Heilman 04-11-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 52173801)
The specs have not been released yet on the new 2017 lower level "X" series models; however, there would be no power difference between any of the models you list and all of them could easily drive those speakers. The X1300W will be receiving the same Dolby Vision firmware update as will the 2017 models later this year/early 2018. None of the models you list can overlay the GUI/menu on 4k video, rather you must upgrade to the X3300W for this feature.

Thank you jdsmoothie. So the wattage difference between the models does not really affect anything? So would there be any way at all for me to use the GUI? Maybe if I am on the TV Audio input on the receiver? That is currently how I view the GUI.

You seem to know what you're talking about - what would you recommend between the S720/30/S920/30/X1300? Or do you think I should be looking at different receivers given my setup? I can get the S720/S920/X1300 all for around $400 new.

jdsmoothie 04-11-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Heilman (Post 52174657)
Thank you jdsmoothie. So the wattage difference between the models does not really affect anything? So would there be any way at all for me to use the GUI? Maybe if I am on the TV Audio input on the receiver? That is currently how I view the GUI.

You seem to know what you're talking about - what would you recommend between the S720/30/S920/30/X1300? Or do you think I should be looking at different receivers given my setup? I can get the S720/S920/X1300 all for around $400 new.

The "X" series are the upgrades over the "S" series, featuring the better version of Audyssey MultEQ XT, Zone 2 pre-outs, and an extra year of warranty.

martiko 04-11-2017 11:08 PM

Hi,

is there a chance, that the new "H" Models will be able to use HEOS speakers for the surround setup (like the HEOS AVR can)?

As I have cabling problems (espacially for the rear and ceiling speakters) this would be a great feature for me... (unfortunately, the HEOS AVR is much to limited in many other ways to be an option).

jdsmoothie 04-12-2017 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by martiko (Post 52186633)
Hi,

is there a chance, that the new "H" Models will be able to use HEOS speakers for the surround setup (like the HEOS AVR can)?

As I have cabling problems (espacially for the rear and ceiling speakters) this would be a great feature for me... (unfortunately, the HEOS AVR is much to limited in many other ways to be an option).

Not likely no, rather only capable with the HEOS AVR and HEOS soundbar.

martiko 04-12-2017 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 52187641)
Not likely no, rather only capable with the HEOS AVR and HEOS soundbar.

Thanks for the response. Thats really a pity, as it would solve my problems and would be a big argument for me to upgrade from my X4000... And it would be a differentiator to the competitors.

jdsmoothie 04-12-2017 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by martiko (Post 52187665)
Thanks for the response. Thats really a pity, as it would solve my problems and would be a big argument for me to upgrade from my X4000... And it would be a differentiator to the competitors.

There are a variety of wireless surround speaker kits which can be purchased depending on whether you are using "passive" or "powered" surround speakers.

Cinema Six 04-13-2017 03:45 PM

Good day JD. I realize the specs for the upper tier X series has not been released but are you able to say which new features will be introduced(educated guess). I know this is a Denon thread but the same info for upper Yamaha and Marantz receivers would be appreciated also. I apologize if this is not proper forum etiquette and my post is not correctly formed. Thank you.

jdsmoothie 04-13-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinema Six (Post 52228737)
Good day JD. I realize the specs for the upper tier X series has not been released but are you able to say which new features will be introduced(educated guess). I know this is a Denon thread but the same info for upper Yamaha and Marantz receivers would be appreciated also. I apologize if this is not proper forum etiquette and my post is not correctly formed. Thank you.

Sorry, but no information can be released until D+M makes the official release statement which generally occurs in August for the the upper Denon models.

Cinema Six 04-13-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 52229225)
Sorry, but no information can be released until D+M makes the official release statement which generally occurs in August for the the upper Denon models.

Thank you for your response JD. I am anxiously awaiting for information to be released. I'm especially looking to purchase new receiver with 11 amplified channels such as the upcoming X6400.

Thanks again for your time.

jdsmoothie 04-13-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinema Six (Post 52229353)
Thank you for your response JD. I am anxiously awaiting for information to be released. I'm especially looking to purchase new receiver with 11 amplified channels such as the upcoming X6400.

Thanks again for your time.

The X6400H and new "flagship" X7400H should be the only 11CH Denon models to be released this year.

Mashie Saldana 04-14-2017 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 52229521)
The X6400H and new "flagship" X7400H should be the only 11CH Denon models to be released this year.

11 amplified/13 processed channels? ;) Or just plain boring 11/11 once again?

jdsmoothie 04-14-2017 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mashie Saldana (Post 52238377)
11 amplified/13 processed channels? ;) Or just plain boring 11/11 once again?

Likely no more than 11/11 for the X6400H and won't know regarding the X7400H until later this fall.

knlmwq 04-19-2017 06:16 AM

Hello, I am in the market for a new receiver coming from a basic Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver. I am looking to upgrade to take advantage of Dolby atmos and properly pass HDR and dolby vision to my 4k tv. The options I am considering are:

1. Denon X1300W (2016)
2. Denon X2300W (2016)
3. Sony STR-DN1080 (2017)
4. Denon AVR S930H (2017)
5. Denon AVR S730H (2017)

I am a beginner and my current speakers are:

Pioneer Andrew Jones
- SP-FS52 Floor-standing Speaker
- SP-BS22 Bookshelf Speakers
- SP-C22 Center-Channel Speaker
- and an old Sony 12" sub SA-WM500

I will be adding the dolby atmos Pioneer SP-T22A speakers to the front.

I am guessing that with my speakers I have no need for a ton of power. I mainly want to add dolby atmos and be able to get hdr, and dolby vision without having to run anything through my TV first. Is there a denon receiver (or another brand) that you all would recommend for this setup? Currently I am aware that the X series would allow me to use Audyssey MultEQ XT over the S models. I have never used Audyssey in the past so I am not sure if that should be my main determining factor.

Thanks for any tips.

jdsmoothie 04-19-2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knlmwq (Post 52350569)
Hello, I am in the market for a new receiver coming from a basic Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver. I am looking to upgrade to take advantage of Dolby atmos and properly pass HDR and dolby vision to my 4k tv. The options I am considering are:

1. Denon X1300W (2016)
2. Denon X2300W (2016)
3. Sony STR-DN1080 (2017)
4. Denon AVR S930H (2017)
5. Denon AVR S730H (2017)

I am a beginner and my current speakers are:

Pioneer Andrew Jones
- SP-FS52 Floor-standing Speaker
- SP-BS22 Bookshelf Speakers
- SP-C22 Center-Channel Speaker
- and an old Sony 12" sub SA-WM500

I will be adding the dolby atmos Pioneer SP-T22A speakers to the front.

I am guessing that with my speakers I have no need for a ton of power. I mainly want to add dolby atmos and be able to get hdr, and dolby vision without having to run anything through my TV first. Is there a denon receiver (or another brand) that you all would recommend for this setup? Currently I am aware that the X series would allow me to use Audyssey MultEQ XT over the S models. I have never used Audyssey in the past so I am not sure if that should be my main determining factor.

Thanks for any tips.


Any of the Denon models would serve you just fine. Decide what features/inputs/outputs you need/want to determine which is the best model for you with the understanding that the new 2017 "H" series models include a built-in HEOS module which allows using the HEOS app to stream (currently) 13 different music services as well as allowing you to stream 2CH audio from the AVR directly to HEOS speakers placed around the house (purchased separately).

Post 1 of this thread notes the new features added to the two "S" models on your list.

knlmwq 04-19-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie (Post 52356657)
Any of the Denon models would serve you just fine. Decide what features/inputs/outputs you need/want to determine which is the best model for you with the understanding that the new 2017 "H" series models include a built-in HEOS module which allows using the HEOS app to stream (currently) 13 different music services as well as allowing you to stream 2CH audio from the AVR directly to HEOS speakers placed around the house (purchased separately).

Post 1 of this thread notes the new features added to the two "S" models on your list.

Thanks for this info. I think I have narrowed my choices between the x1300w and the s730h. How valuable do you think the MultiEQ XT would be versus just the MultiEQ? Heos would be nice but I have an nvidia shield that allows me to stream all my music to my receiver if I wanted.

jdsmoothie 04-20-2017 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by knlmwq (Post 52368337)
Thanks for this info. I think I have narrowed my choices between the x1300w and the s730h. How valuable do you think the MultiEQ XT would be versus just the MultiEQ? Heos would be nice but I have an nvidia shield that allows me to stream all my music to my receiver if I wanted.

If you're new to Audyssey, the plain MultEQ will still likely be an improvement. Keep in mind however, the "X" models also feature a 3rd year of warranty and Zone 2 pre-outs (if you wanted a 7.1 + Zone 2 setup).

Also, in addition to music services listed in the HEOS app image below, also included (currently) are JUKE! and AWA. The built-in HEOS module will also allow you to stream PCM 2.0 audio from a source connected to the AVR to one or more HEOS speakers you may have set up around the house (eg. if listening to a ball game on cable TV, you could take a HEOS 1 speaker and plug it into the garage and stream the ball game audio while working in the garage).

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1492690781

smdelaney 04-20-2017 11:19 AM

2017 X Series Announcement Schedule?
 
@jdsmoothie ...

Is there calendar Denon follows in announcing its line up for the new model year?
Googling the x2300w and x3300w suggests May for the X1400h/x2400h and June for the X3400h (with the x3400h available in July).

I am buying a house in June and will be replacing my 'alive and dying' Onkyo shortly thereafter and the lower Denons from S930H to X2400H are presently in the running. The x3400h is probably just a little bit out of reach for me.

I've been holding off on this purchase for a while and now this home sale has pushed it back further and that is driving me insane...well, MORE insane :D !) . It would be a little easier to wait if I knew when the new models will be available and what improvements they have over the 2016's.

chi_guy50 04-20-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smdelaney (Post 52387249)
@jdsmoothie ...

Is there calendar Denon follows in announcing its line up for the new model year?
Googling the x2300w and x3300w suggests May for the X1400h/x2400h and June for the X3400h (with the x3400h available in July).

I am buying a house in June and will be replacing my 'alive and dying' Onkyo shortly thereafter and the lower Denons from S930H to X2400H are presently in the running. The x3400h is probably just a little bit out of reach for me.

I've been holding off on this purchase for a while and now this home sale has pushed it back further and that is driving me insane...well, MORE insane :D !) . It would be a little easier to wait if I knew when the new models will be available and what improvements they have over the 2016's.

I think you'll find that most of your questions are answered in the first post of this thread.

jdsmoothie 04-20-2017 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smdelaney (Post 52387249)
@jdsmoothie ...

Is there calendar Denon follows in announcing its line up for the new model year?
Googling the x2300w and x3300w suggests May for the X1400h/x2400h and June for the X3400h (with the x3400h available in July).

I am buying a house in June and will be replacing my 'alive and dying' Onkyo shortly thereafter and the lower Denons from S930H to X2400H are presently in the running. The x3400h is probably just a little bit out of reach for me.

I've been holding off on this purchase for a while and now this home sale has pushed it back further and that is driving me insane...well, MORE insane :D !) . It would be a little easier to wait if I knew when the new models will be available and what improvements they have over the 2016's.

As chi_guy50 notes, I list the release dates of each model in post 1 of this thread, the "X" series model dates being last year's release dates but likely accurate for 2017 models as well.


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