Originally Posted by gdfein
I’m a non owner follower of this thread as I’m considering the 777 v3 but seems to me there are issues being experienced more so than glowing recommendations and innovative suggestions from satisfied users. I know the post count is low at 200+ but I wanted to gain confidence considering this unit for purchase and seems that may not be way to go for me based on my perceptions.
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Let's just say that the most trouble being brought up with the T 777 v3 is not with hardware, but with software, namely Dirac. It is constantly interrupting an otherwise good discussion on the merits of the T 777 v3. I get tired of hearing about these NAD components being faulty, or having issues, because there is a problem with the ability to download the latest version of Dirac. I'm certainly not saying that this AVR is totally without some faults worthy of discussion, but we have digressed into a conversation as to why the component may not get along with a product that has nothing to do with the hardware that's implemented in the T 777 v3. The NAD T 777 v3 is a stellar example of an audiophile grade AVR, but we are now getting into the realm of buggy software entering into the unit's performance, now crippling it's "Reputation" as a component that has established itself through it's brand as a great sounding component, worthy of standing out on it's own as a formidable audiophile grade component. I noticed one poster who is actually believing that you are "Lucky" if you get a NAD AVR that doesn't have problems. Of course that makes no sense, and is just a manner of venting for that particular member of the forums here. This is what happens when you have someone who's disappointed with their purchase who wants to let everyone know about it, and clearly in an unfair way. To be fair, there was an issue with a certain audio card that I believe has been taken care of and is no longer existent. In my view, you can't get a much better example of a well rounded AVR than the T 777 v3. My unit is a factory refurbished one, but I have had no reason to fault anything because of that. I couldn't be happier with my purchase. Again, I don't use Dirac, so I can't comment on those problems/issues. One thing I've noticed is the tendency to want to act as though people NEED
some sort of room correction software when I have been listening to audiophile grade components for decades, and it's just not the case.
The NAD company has been around for a long time before Dirac ever hit the scene. People buy NAD components based on it's well earned reputation as having a unique and satisfying sound quality that can hold it's own with any of the "Premium" audiophile grade components out there today. I have seen a desire from some of the members of this forum to chime in about how badly they want to see Dirac software work for them, and this component has that option available if you choose to use it. That doesn't give anyone an excuse to make derogatory comments about the component itself, being devoid of the software, just because they are dissatisfied with their expectations that they were going to get with this acclaimed software package. Now there are even posters who are convinced that there are more bad NAD components being sold than perfectly good ones.
How about the offer that no one has even thought about buying NAD, unless they are interested in a certain software package? Acting as though NAD as a brand name isn't worth considering unless you are able to use some new room correction software that comes with it is just myopic in nature. The internet is a great place to get great information and help, but it can also be a place for people to vent about their personal problems, and try to telegraph that experience to try to get others to agree with them, even though the personal experience in now way is representative of the product, or brand as a whole. To base an opinion of an entire brand based on a dozen peoples disgruntled experiences, and try to use that experience as a blanket statement against the virtues of the brand/component is somewhat disingenuous. It is more likely that someone would post something negative about a product in a review, or forum, than decide one day to just go onto a forum to tell the world how great your component is. That usually leads to a certain tone that isn't favorable to the product being discussed most of the time. Of course, most people realize that. It is the nature of the beast, as it were.
I have just experienced a phenomenon that I would like to see if any other satisfied purchasers of the T 777 v3 can relate to. I have had my T 777 v3 for about 5 months now, and don't use Dirac at the moment. There has been a noticeable difference, I would go so far as to say dramatic, in the "Responsiveness", or the ability to hear some subtleties in the T 777 v3's sound reproduction that I just noticed over the past week or so. I have my system settled in to where I like the way it is projecting the surround capabilities in movies that I am viewing on DirecTV. The ability of this AVR to transfer these subtle sounds to different speakers has increased in the last couple movies I have watched, and has increased to the point where I am noticing a much better responsiveness, or "Open-ness" to the sound quality. Is this the rumored "Burn in" that some people describe? My speakers haven't been changed, and I haven't changed any of the inputs to the device, so it must be the T 777 v3 getting "Broken in" finally. I ask this because I have never noticed this kind of drastic movement towards a more open sound signature with an audio component before. I don't know if DirecTV have upgraded their transmission qualities or not, but I doubt that's the case. The AVR seems to just sound better now, for some reason. Unfortunately, I haven't been paying much attention to the reproduction of music or other program material to use as a comparison to this observation.