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post #31 of 53 Old 03-05-2019, 07:35 AM
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Hello,

I'm new member of this forum.

I would like to buy this sinto-amply 2 CH, but please confirm my doubt:

Do VOLUME, TREBLE, BASS manage also the ZONE 2 LINE OUT ?

I would like to connect a pair of active speakers (amplified). Is not a good choice ?

Thanks
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Hello,

I'm new member of this forum.

I would like to buy this sinto-amply 2 CH, but please confirm my doubt:

Do VOLUME, TREBLE, BASS manage also the ZONE 2 LINE OUT ?

I would like to connect a pair of active speakers (amplified). Is not a good choice ?

Thanks
I'm not sure if the EQ is passed along but I do know it's not possible to use Zone 2 like a normal set of pre-outs. From the manual (page 33)
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You can only select the same inputs for the main room and separate room with the "NET" or "BLUETOOTH" input selector. If you have "NET" selected in the main room and then select "BLUETOOTH" in the separate room, the main room also switches to "BLUETOOTH". You cannot select different stations for the main room and separate room with the DAB (European models)/AM (North American models)/FM radio.
Lack of stereo pre out/main in is the biggest missing feature on this unit and I really hope it's added in any possible the next version of this receiver, it would increase flexibility a ton.
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Sorry for the double post but I just saw that Onkyo is adding Airplay 2 functionality in an upcoming update. I don't remember any A/V product I've ever purchased getting this much post-release support. Since the receiver launched around 2 years ago they've added Dolby Vision support, Tidal Masters, MQA, Chromecast, Works with Sonos, DTS Play-fi, Deezer and a whole host of other stuff. It's almost a different product from when it came out.
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After hours of searching for a 2.1 receiver I finally found this one. Two quick questions for regarding the 8270 that I'd like some clarification on if possible. I currently stream my flac files from my computer via wifi network to my current receiver using the denon android app. Can I do the same with this Onkyo? Also can this push 4ohm speakers, specifically the elac uni-fi ub5?
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After hours of searching for a 2.1 receiver I finally found this one. Two quick questions for regarding the 8270 that I'd like some clarification on if possible. I currently stream my flac files from my computer via wifi network to my current receiver using the denon android app. Can I do the same with this Onkyo? Also can this push 4ohm speakers, specifically the elac uni-fi ub5?
I'm not sure how the Denon app works but the Onkyo supports DLNA servers, chromecast and airplay. The amp seems pretty beefy to me, I have 85db sensitivity speakers and I rarely push it past 65/100 but I haven't tried those in particular. Are you using a sub? I know the Uni-fi have a reputation for being power hungry.
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I'm not sure how the Denon app works but the Onkyo supports DLNA servers, chromecast and airplay. The amp seems pretty beefy to me, I have 85db sensitivity speakers and I rarely push it past 65/100 but I haven't tried those in particular. Are you using a sub? I know the Uni-fi have a reputation for being power hungry.
Yes. Will be using it with an SVS SB-2000.
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Yes. Will be using it with an SVS SB-2000.
If you're using a sub it should be ok.
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After hours of searching for a 2.1 receiver I finally found this one. Two quick questions for regarding the 8270 that I'd like some clarification on if possible. I currently stream my flac files from my computer via wifi network to my current receiver using the denon android app. Can I do the same with this Onkyo? Also can this push 4ohm speakers, specifically the elac uni-fi ub5?

I use a thumb drive to play flac on my 8270. I drive a pair of Polk LSiM705 towers with no problems, they are rated for 8 ohms. I've also driven my Salk STs' with it, those are 6 ohm, and dip to 4 ohm in certain frequencies, also no problems. It is rated for 6 ohm, per the manual.


It is pretty clean at 100w into 8 ohms. Nice unit IMO.


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Amplifier (Audio) section Tuner Section
Rated Output Power (FTC) (North American)
With 8 ohm loads, both channels driven, from 20-
20,000 Hz; rated 100 watts per channel minimum RMS
power, with no more than 0.08% total harmonic distortion
from 250 milliwatts to rated output.
Rated Output Power (IEC) (Others)
2 ch k 160 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1 ch driven of 1% THD
Maximum Effective Output Power (JEITA) (North American)
2 ch k 170 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 2 ch driven of 10% THD
Dynamic Power (*)
(*)IEC60268-Short-term maximum output power
240 W (3 ≠, Front)
210 W (4 ≠, Front)
120 W (8 ≠, Front)
THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion+Noise)
0.08% (20 Hz - 20,000 Hz, half power)
Input Sensitivity and Impedance (1 kHz, 100 W/8 ≠)
200 mV/47 k≠ (LINE (Unbalance))
3.5 mV/47 k≠ (PHONO MM)
Rated RCA Output Level and Impedance
1 V/470 ≠ (SUBWOOFER PRE OUT)
200 mV/2.3 k≠ (ZONE LINE OUT)

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i'd like to know which subwoofer crossover frequency setting is available in Onkyo TX8270 setup?
Steps from 40, 60, 80, 100, 120...?
I have a Pioneer VSX832 5.1 receiver which has dissapointing sound quality on Wharfedale 225 speakers (sounds thin, flat, dimmed) so im considering to buy Onkyo Tx8270 - perhaps it will sound better.
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i'd like to know which subwoofer crossover frequency setting is available in Onkyo TX8270 setup?
Steps from 40, 60, 80, 100, 120...?
I have a Pioneer VSX832 5.1 receiver which has dissapointing sound quality on Wharfedale 225 speakers (sounds thin, flat, dimmed) so im considering to buy Onkyo Tx8270 - perhaps it will sound better.
I just looked it's 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 150, 180, 200
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Welcome.
I'm glad I got here.
I have a question - what will happen as if it was connected before via HDMI will send a signal to the DTS or DD (5.1) receiver.

Will the amplifier handle the movie 2.1? I will have subwoofer.

Will the subwoofer sound like the 5.1 set?
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Will the subwoofer sound like 5.1? Separate soundtrack*
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the subwoofer will sound like .1 which is a dedicated LFE channel.

I don't understand your question. How can a subwoofer sound like 5.1? It's only one channel.

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I'm sorry, my english is bad.
Will the receiver play according to what is in the picture and will transmit the signal to the subwoofer in this way?

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@majmaj I believe [but am not 100% certain] that from surround sources the receiver uses a summed full range 2.0 PCM signal that is then split to the sub via the crossover set by the receiver. I can definitely tell you I'm not missing any bass when I watch movies on blu ray or streamed content with surround soundtrack. You do have to set all your sources send PCM to the receiver.


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2-channel linear PCM: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz, 176.4 kHz, 192 kHz, 16/20/24 bit

DSD: Supported sampling rates: 2.8 MHzYour Blu-ray Disc/DVD player must also support HDMI output of the above audio formats.
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I just looked it's 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 150, 180, 200
Thnk you!
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hi, new to this forum. Does anyone know if this stereo sends the RCA in analog signal directly to the amp or does it do any digital processing before? I have a sonos connect hooked up to this receiver and recently noticed that it's now playing out of sync with my other sonos connect. trying to trouble shoot with Sonos and they were asking about digital processing. thanks!
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hi, new to this forum. Does anyone know if this stereo sends the RCA in analog signal directly to the amp or does it do any digital processing before? I have a sonos connect hooked up to this receiver and recently noticed that it's now playing out of sync with my other sonos connect. trying to trouble shoot with Sonos and they were asking about digital processing. thanks!
I have a Connect hooked up with RCA cables and it plays in sync with my other Sonos Play:1s as far as I can tell [they're in different rooms so I can't critically listen to both at the same time]. Are the problems you're having like phase issues where it's really close or is it a noticeable amount of time behind? Either way this doesn't have the weird sound fields and other kinds of processing that tend to cause those problems. I think the distance settings in the setup menu are the only place a delay could be introduced.
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The delay is maybe 500ms to 1 sec long. It feels like its usually a half beat off or so. Are the distance settings you're talking about for setting the speaker distance? That was the only setting I thought to try and setting it to zero didn't change anything.
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The delay is maybe 500ms to 1 sec long. It feels like its usually a half beat off or so. Are the distance settings you're talking about for setting the speaker distance? That was the only setting I thought to try and setting it to zero didn't change anything.
Yeah there's nothing I'm aware of in the receiver itself that would cause that much of a delay. The only other thing I can think of would be the lip sync setting but I'm pretty sure that only applies to HDMI inputs.
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Went through all the settings, but couldn't remove the delay. Tried attaching both Sonos connects to another sound system and it worked fine. Wondering if it's due to a firmware update.
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It looks like Denon is getting on the 2 channel AVR bandwagon, THe DRA-800H specs look roughly similar to the 8270/DTM-7: $500 MSRP, 100wpc at 8 ohms, A+B outputs, works with lots of music streaming services, bass management but no room correction. The main differences look like 5 HDMI inputs instead of 4, Alexa/Siri support [yawn] and obviously it has HEOS instead of "Works with Sonos."

The most interesting part is the Zone 2 outs seem to have variable volume which might make this actually usable as a preamp. I'd guess the pre outs don't use the subwoofer crossover, but you could do a miniDSP for that.
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Onkyo has officially announced the TX-8390 receiver. It has more power (they're advertising 200 watts but that's 1khz to 6 ohms and at 10% THD so I'd guess around 120 WPC in real life), 6 HDMI inputs and 2 outputs, pre outs, a room calibration system called AccuEQ. So pretty much everything I thought was wrong with it. Listed at 800 GBP so list in the US will probably be 800-900. At that pricing I imagine they'll keep the 8270 for sale for the immediate future.

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