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post #31 of 957 Old 05-30-2017, 11:49 AM
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Can someone explain exactly what signals appear on each speaker (L, R, Ctr, surrounds) with a 2 channel stereo audio source selected and distributed as "All Channel Stereo" mode when wired as a 7.1 setup?
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I hate having volume as a 1-99 thing. Is there any way to turn it into decibels?
I am thinking same thing, I'm used to having it as decibels and don't see any option to change it. Guess will just take a while to get use to it, as it shouldn't make any difference in performance. Only had mine since yesterday and to soon to form any opinions for the receiver yet.

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Since this has dual DACs can you have Zone 1 on HDMI input and use Google Cast on Zone 2 at the same time? Can Google Cast be put in a speaker group and can you change the audio fields/EQ on the receiver when using it as an input?

Also based on the TX-NR555/656 Google Cast feature when I see them putting "feature ******* coming via firmware update" in the specs it means it could take them a year.
Looks like you can do this, which is a nice feature. Check in the advanced manual page 37 under Remote Play Zone.

2. Remote Play Zone
Remote Play Zone
Default Value: Auto
When playing using AirPlay or Spotify Connect, or when using the Music
Server feature to play remotely from your PC, you can set whether to play in
the main room (where this unit is) or in a separate room (ZONE 2).
"Auto": When the main room input selector is NET, music is played in the
main room. When the separate room input selector is NET and the main
room is other than NET, then the music is played in the separate room.
"Main", "Zone2": Select when limiting the play zone to a particular room. For
example, when playing only in the separate room, select "Zone 2".
This feature may not work if something is already being played with the
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Looks like not many folks getting this receiver, maybe because it only does 7.1 or 5.1.2
Wonder if the extra speaker options in the more expensive receivers are worth the extra money?
So far this entry level Onkyo is fine for me, even with the 5.1.2 I get better sound than with the 7.1 I was using before.
Anyone else happy with this Onkyo 676?

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Looks like not many folks getting this receiver, maybe because it only does 7.1 or 5.1.2
Wonder if the extra speaker options in the more expensive receivers are worth the extra money?
So far this entry level Onkyo is fine for me, even with the 5.1.2 I get better sound than with the 7.1 I was using before.
Anyone else happy with this Onkyo 676?
I am seriously considering purchasing this. I have had good luck with my Onkyo and like the bells and whistles this has, like the 2nd HDMI output. I've also considered moving up to the tx-nr777 but not sure if the couple extra features it has is worth the price. However, after reading these reviews I'm also a little nervous. Gotta pull the plug at some time though.

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I'm also considering this NR676. Best Buy has this and (last years??) NR757 on sale this week for $499 each.

I'm trying to spot the differences between the two. It looks like the NR757 was last years "high end" of the NR line. It has slightly more power - a few more bells and whistles - and is THX Certified. BUT - only HDMI 1-3 are HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2! The rest of the HDMI inputs are only 1.4!!

Looking at the NR676, all of the HDMI inputs are HDCP 2.2 - but it's not THX Certified.

I'm not really sure how much of a deal it is to be THX Certified. Quite frankly all of my receivers for the past several years have been THX Certified - but I have no idea if that REALLY made a difference. Anyone know??
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I'm not really sure how much of a deal it is to be THX Certified. Quite frankly all of my receivers for the past several years have been THX Certified - but I have no idea if that REALLY made a difference. Anyone know??
Don't bother answering that!! I went and googled and see that there are two camps on the THX certified vs not.. So in this particular case, it would just seem that it may just be that Onkyo chose not to pay the fee to have the NR676 "certified".. ??

Now to add the NR777 to the equation. Like I say, the NR676 is $499 this week at Best Buy.. The NR777 is $649 with $100 gift card back on NewEgg (so only a $50 split!). I really hate NewEgg though.. I wonder if Amazon would be willing to "deal match".
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Don't bother answering that!! I went and googled and see that there are two camps on the THX certified vs not.. So in this particular case, it would just seem that it may just be that Onkyo chose not to pay the fee to have the NR676 "certified".. ??

Now to add the NR777 to the equation. Like I say, the NR676 is $499 this week at Best Buy.. The NR777 is $649 with $100 gift card back on NewEgg (so only a $50 split!). I really hate NewEgg though.. I wonder if Amazon would be willing to "deal match".
Ooh, I like the NewEgg deal. I have not heard of Amazon "deal matching"
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I am seriously considering purchasing this. I have had good luck with my Onkyo and like the bells and whistles this has, like the 2nd HDMI output. I've also considered moving up to the tx-nr777 but not sure if the couple extra features it has is worth the price. However, after reading these reviews I'm also a little nervous. Gotta pull the plug at some time though.
My opinion the 676 is the better value. With either one they are entry level at best, that is if you want to get best sound from Atmos or DTS-X since they only have 5.2.2 capability. However getting into the 7.2.4 or more area is expensive, and most folks don't have room for all the speaker placements.
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Don't bother answering that!! I went and googled and see that there are two camps on the THX certified vs not.. So in this particular case, it would just seem that it may just be that Onkyo chose not to pay the fee to have the NR676 "certified".. ??

Now to add the NR777 to the equation. Like I say, the NR676 is $499 this week at Best Buy.. The NR777 is $649 with $100 gift card back on NewEgg (so only a $50 split!). I really hate NewEgg though.. I wonder if Amazon would be willing to "deal match".
Onkyo is having a $50 off authorized sale on the 676 and 777 this week. However, very few dealers have the 777 in stock so the Newegg deal is actually pretty good after the $100 GC considering the 676 is the same price normally. You are actually buying the receiver from ElectronicsExpo,a third party (who is an authorized reseller https://www.onkyousa.com/Support/dealerlist.php), through Newegg's front end.
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Just noticed that as of this afternoon, the Amazon price for the NR777 has dropped to $599. Still $50 higher than the NewEgg gift card deal, but it's something. As PatsFan123 noted above, make sure you're buying from an authorized dealer (Electronics Expo and Amazon are both sellers on Amazon).

Not sure if it had anything to do with it, but I did report the lower NewEgg price to Amazon yesterday (Look for the "tell us about a lower price" link on Amazon pages).. Maybe a few more reports will drop it the other $50
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Regarding the 676 there is a review for it on Amazon where the guy complains that you can't set the receiver to just pass-through video.

He states that his picture is worse than with his previous model (the same 636 that I have) because the 676 is doing some kind of video processing and not letting the TV do it.

Any truth to this? I'm looking to upgrade so I can have all my 4K/HDR devices plugged into the AVR as opposed to my current setup.

676 is currently on sale for $699 here in Canada. The 575 is $599, is there a massive difference between the two? I'm just doing 5.1 in a not very huge space in the basement.

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Regarding the 676 there is a review for it on Amazon where the guy complains that you can't set the receiver to just pass-through video.

He states that his picture is worse than with his previous model (the same 636 that I have) because the 676 is doing some kind of video processing and not letting the TV do it.

Any truth to this? I'm looking to upgrade so I can have all my 4K/HDR devices plugged into the AVR as opposed to my current setup.

676 is currently on sale for $699 here in Canada. The 575 is $599, is there a massive difference between the two? I'm just doing 5.1 in a not very huge space in the basement.

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I have a 646 and I suspect the 656 and 676 all work the same way after reading all 3 manuals. These units do some basic "processing" of the video in order to overlay the GUI, and renegotiate the HDMI handshake between itself and the TV. You cannot turn it "off" but I don't think its doing anything besides adding GUI overlay. Onkyo isn't advertising upscaling or any enhancement so whatever the receiver does is minimal.

Whatever video format (resolution, framerate, chroma) is passed through in the input, is passed through the output. I haven't noticed any signal degradation. The fact that only 2017 model receivers for all brands can pass Dolby Vision indicates this is industry practice otherwise they would all be able to pass it in a "through" mode.

My 606 from 2008 used mechanical relays to switch HDMI and had no GUI so that was truly a "through" model but even that couldn't even pass 3D so there's always something going on when using a receiver.
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Does anyone know if this Does/Will support HLG (Hybrid-Log Gamma) and is it important to have at this point? The specs don't seem to indicate this. Does it support DSD 5.6 MHz? (The specs on the Onkyo website seem to indicate it does but the Advanced manual only lists 2.8 MHz)
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I have a 646 and I suspect the 656 and 676 all work the same way after reading all 3 manuals. These units do some basic "processing" of the video in order to overlay the GUI, and renegotiate the HDMI handshake between itself and the TV. You cannot turn it "off" but I don't think its doing anything besides adding GUI overlay. Onkyo isn't advertising upscaling or any enhancement so whatever the receiver does is minimal.

Whatever video format (resolution, framerate, chroma) is passed through in the input, is passed through the output. I haven't noticed any signal degradation. The fact that only 2017 model receivers for all brands can pass Dolby Vision indicates this is industry practice otherwise they would all be able to pass it in a "through" mode.

My 606 from 2008 used mechanical relays to switch HDMI and had no GUI so that was truly a "through" model but even that couldn't even pass 3D so there's always something going on when using a receiver.
You can turn off the GUI completely on the 656 (though I leave it on, as I like to see the volume control on-screen). Also, the 656 is getting the DV firmware update as well, according to Onkyo.

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I have a 646 and I suspect the 656 and 676 all work the same way after reading all 3 manuals. These units do some basic "processing" of the video in order to overlay the GUI, and renegotiate the HDMI handshake between itself and the TV. You cannot turn it "off" but I don't think its doing anything besides adding GUI overlay. Onkyo isn't advertising upscaling or any enhancement so whatever the receiver does is minimal.

Whatever video format (resolution, framerate, chroma) is passed through in the input, is passed through the output. I haven't noticed any signal degradation. The fact that only 2017 model receivers for all brands can pass Dolby Vision indicates this is industry practice otherwise they would all be able to pass it in a "through" mode.

My 606 from 2008 used mechanical relays to switch HDMI and had no GUI so that was truly a "through" model but even that couldn't even pass 3D so there's always something going on when using a receiver.
Yeah I was looking through the manual for the 636 and I don't see the option the reviewer mentioned about being able to turn off any video processing either.

Its down to the 676 or the Denon AVR-X2300W which is $50 cheaper but also a 2016 model.

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Yeah I was looking through the manual for the 636 and I don't see the option the reviewer mentioned about being able to turn off any video processing either.

Its down to the 676 or the Denon AVR-X2300W which is $50 cheaper but also a 2016 model.
My 646 is showing signs of HDMI failure.. yet I am still looking at the 676 because of price and familiarity. I was thinking of trying the Denon AVR-S930H but it seems like the Onkyo packs in more features for $80 less.
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Does anyone know if this Does/Will support HLG (Hybrid-Log Gamma) and is it important to have at this point? The specs don't seem to indicate this. Does it support DSD 5.6 MHz? (The specs on the Onkyo website seem to indicate it does but the Advanced manual only lists 2.8 MHz)
There is zero content with HLG at the moment. Story is that it is developed for broadcast TV (BBC had a large contribution). In the Netherlands where I live, it took ages to get HD, so I don't expect it to take off soon.

DV and HDR10 are supported by Amazon and Netflix so yes it will come.

Also expect HDMI 2.2 to arrive next year, that one will support HLG and 120 Hz frame rates, 8k resolution and something similar to Nvidia Gsync (limits blur in fast moving scenes by letting the display decide when a new frame is shown, so you get small variations in frame rate).

Anyways a 2017 reciever will last a few years.

I got my 676 about 3 weeks ago. It's pretty good compared to my old 636.

It is considerably bigger than the 636, but I don't see a lot more electronics inside, so it looks like Onkyo went for more robust cooling. It is also much cooler, even with the heat wave going on here at the moment (28 oC in house, no airco).
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Quick question for anyone who may know. I am a bit new to the technical world of home theaters so take it easy on me :-). I just bought an Onkyo TX-NR757, and it is 7.2 channel. I have it set up as a 5.2.2. I have 2 subs (klipsch 12sw, bravus II 8D) and have them both hooked up on the LFE pre-outs on the receiver, the klipsch in the main and the Bravus in the zone. I get signal from both lines. I keep the klipsch up front, is more rumbly than the bravus, which I keep in the back of my theater because it's punchier, the two work well together and seem to make up each other's shortcomings well. My questions are A) is that a good way to set it up, B) are both LFE channels independent? As in they send separate signals to their respective subs, and if not is that possible? C) What crossover settings should I use? I have the aperion audio intimus 4t towers, 4b bookshelves, and 4c center (they sound great but if I can make it better I want to). Also, my old receiver was a Sony strdd550 (cheapie) and it was paired with a 100 watt Yamaha sub and it seems to kick out better bass (not as deep, but definitely more of it)...so maybe my avr is set up wrong?
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There is zero content with HLG at the moment. Story is that it is developed for broadcast TV (BBC had a large contribution). In the Netherlands where I live, it took ages to get HD, so I don't expect it to take off soon.

DV and HDR10 are supported by Amazon and Netflix so yes it will come.

Also expect HDMI 2.2 to arrive next year, that one will support HLG and 120 Hz frame rates, 8k resolution and something similar to Nvidia Gsync (limits blur in fast moving scenes by letting the display decide when a new frame is shown, so you get small variations in frame rate).

Anyways a 2017 reciever will last a few years.

I got my 676 about 3 weeks ago. It's pretty good compared to my old 636.

It is considerably bigger than the 636, but I don't see a lot more electronics inside, so it looks like Onkyo went for more robust cooling. It is also much cooler, even with the heat wave going on here at the moment (28 oC in house, no airco).

Straight from Onkyo's site:

636 (W x H x D): 17 1/8" x 6 13/16" x 12 15/16"
676 (W x H x D): 17 1/8" x 6 13/16" x 14 7/8"

Yeah I guess 2" of depth on a shelf could be considered considerably bigger.

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Pulled the trigger on the 676. Will be setting it up tonight. Hopefully no issues!

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Anyone have any tips and tricks with this receiver. I'm a bit of an audio noob. I've hooked it up, run the calibration and it sounds pretty awesome.

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what are the major difference between nr656 and nr676? (hdr10, built-in chromecast?)

just pulled the trigger on 656 last week but with 150bux more i would go with 676

i love my 656 cuz i came from my old denon avr1610 which i bought it almost 8 years ago

it's huge upgrade for me such a wireless features are totally amazing!

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what are the major difference between nr656 and nr676? (hdr10, built-in chromecast?)

just pulled the trigger on 656 last week but with 150bux more i would go with 676

i love my 656 cuz i came from my old denon avr1610 which i bought it almost 8 years ago

it's huge upgrade for me such a wireless features are totally amazing!

any suggestions?
I'm not quite sure, since the 656 also passes through HDR10, and has Chromecast built-in. It's also getting the DV update like the 676.

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I keep debating on getting the 676 or even 777, but people here keep saying that they prefer denon or yamaha. It's good to hear good news about Onkyo

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what are the major difference between nr656 and nr676? (hdr10, built-in chromecast?)

just pulled the trigger on 656 last week but with 150bux more i would go with 676

i love my 656 cuz i came from my old denon avr1610 which i bought it almost 8 years ago

it's huge upgrade for me such a wireless features are totally amazing!

any suggestions?

Only 3 of the HDMI ports on the 656 are HDCP 2.2 (aka 4k)
The 676 has more power
I see no mention of the 656 being able to pass through Dolby Vision. (apparently there is a firmware update for this out or coming out)
DTS:X on the 656 requires a firmware update.

For me its the first one there. Over time as you add devices they're likely going to be outputting 4k so I'd want all my hdmi ports to support that which the 676 does.

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It's been a long time since I had an AV amp. About ten years ago I had a Yamaha amp and would usually listen to it with volume at about 10-15%. I just got my 676 yesterday and find that I have to turn it up to about 40% for normal listening. It's hardly noticeable at 15. I have Monitor Audio Bronze 5s so plenty of power. Have I connected something up incorrectly? Or should I adjust a setting somewhere?

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I keep debating on getting the 676 or even 777, but people here keep saying that they prefer denon or yamaha. It's good to hear good news about Onkyo

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I decided to pull the trigger on a Denon AVR-S930h instead. Amazon had a great deal on it today.

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For some reason when my stuff powers on (which i do via "Xbox On" voice command through Kinect).

My Onkyo doesn't stay on the BD/DVD input and switches to "TV" and I have to switch it back. Anyone know what that would be?

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