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Good thing you caught the problem, did you get an engineered beam installed or steal I beam? What projector are you using?
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I bought the RX-A2070 at the beginning of this year. I recently notice a very soft humming noise from the top R hand corner of the amplifier only on standby mode. The humming noise gone away when I turn on the amp or when I switch off the main supply from the wall. The humming noise is very very soft and only audible when the room is quiet and when you try to listen carefully. It is not very disturbing but I am wondering any of the member who own this machine have heard this noise ? Is it a normal electrical noise ? Does it means that some component is failing? Any input will be appreciated.
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I haven't noticed anything like that from either my 2070 or 3070, but then both of these are in cabinets with front doors that are nearly always closed. My 2060 is out in the open though I've not heard anything from it. How close do you need to get be to your unit to hear anything?
I can hear humming noise from less than a foot away. As it is very soft , may be I just don't bother too much. To unplug and unwire everything and bring to service centre is a bit of hassle. Thank you for your input bwillcox.
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Xfinity X1 BIZARRE problem with Yamaha RX-A2070 and LG OLED C7 65”

Hello all. I am experiencing a bizarre problem. I get a Blue screen (No sound as well) with Xfinity X1 DVR cable box when connected directly to the RX-A2070 and a Sewell 4K HDMI 2.0 full bandwidth HDMI switch. I bypass both the receiver and HDMI switch and plug the cable box directly into the LG OLED C7 via HDMI 1 and still get a Blue screen with no sound. The RX-A2070 is connected to the TV via HDMI 2(ARC).

NOW HERE IS THE CRAZY PART:
The Cablebox is plugged into the LG OLED C7 via HDMI 1. As soon as I disconnect the RX-A2070 from the LG OLED C7 I get back the proper picture and sound from the cable box. If I plug the receiver back into the TV I instantly get Blue screen no sound from the cable box.

I am using Premium Certified HDMI cables. I have swapped cables to test. I have an Apple TV 4K, an Nvidia Shield TV, an XBOX ONE X, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch, Chromecast Ultra and a gaming PC connected and they all work fine with 4K HDR going through the receiver.

Has anyone experienced this and does anyone have a viable solution?

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Need help!

Does anyone know how to adjust the crossover for the sub? I can find the area to set my subwoofer. If you do, do you have any recommendations as to what frequency I should set my sub to? I have a Speedwoofer 10s.

The photos attached are the only area I found to make any adjustments. I don’t know what I’m looking at in the photos or what to set it as.
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Need help!

Does anyone know how to adjust the crossover for the sub? I can find the area to set my subwoofer. If you do, do you have any recommendations as to what frequency I should set my sub to? I have a Speedwoofer 10s.

The photos attached are the only area I found to make any adjustments. I don’t know what I’m looking at in the photos or what to set it as.
From the manual, page 143.


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From the manual, page 143.


Ok I think I get it. I currently have all my speakers set at 80 hertz. From what it looks like in the picture you posted, when I set my speakers to 80 hertz, my subwoofer will play everything below that? So I don’t set the frequencies for the sub, it automatically does it when I set the speakers right?

Can anyone explain the photos I posted and where I should set it? There are 3 different photos as well as 3 different settings. I am unsure which to choose.
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Can anyone explain the photos I posted and where I should set it?
Leave that alone. Just set xover to 80.
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Ok I think I get it. I currently have all my speakers set at 80 hertz. From what it looks like in the picture you posted, when I set my speakers to 80 hertz, my subwoofer will play everything below that? So I don’t set the frequencies for the sub, it automatically does it when I set the speakers right?
Correct. Here is a rough visual representation of a speaker/sub crossover:




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Can anyone explain the photos I posted and where I should set it? There are 3 different photos as well as 3 different settings. I am unsure which to choose.
That is the manual PEQ (Parametric Equalizer) and shouldn't really be messed with unless you have measured your in-room response using REW (Room EQ Wizard) or similar. If you do not know where the peaks and valleys are in your response, you can do more harm than good applying random EQ filters.
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Help Me!

Xfinity X1 BIZARRE problem with Yamaha RX-A2070 and LG OLED C7 65”

Hello all. I am experiencing a bizarre problem. I get a Blue screen (No sound as well) with Xfinity X1 DVR cable box when connected directly to the RX-A2070 and a Sewell 4K HDMI 2.0 full bandwidth HDMI switch. I bypass both the receiver and HDMI switch and plug the cable box directly into the LG OLED C7 via HDMI 1 and still get a Blue screen with no sound. The RX-A2070 is connected to the TV via HDMI 2(ARC).

NOW HERE IS THE CRAZY PART:
The Cablebox is plugged into the LG OLED C7 via HDMI 1. As soon as I disconnect the RX-A2070 from the LG OLED C7 I get back the proper picture and sound from the cable box. If I plug the receiver back into the TV I instantly get Blue screen no sound from the cable box.

I am using Premium Certified HDMI cables. I have swapped cables to test. I have an Apple TV 4K, an Nvidia Shield TV, an XBOX ONE X, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch, Chromecast Ultra and a gaming PC connected and they all work fine with 4K HDR going through the receiver.

Has anyone experienced this and does anyone have a viable solution?

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Try turning HDMI Control Off on the Reciever ? This can causes alot of problems like this .

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Try turning HDMI Control Off on the Reciever ? This can causes alot of problems like this .
@Glenee , Thank you for your suggestions! I tried everything you suggested previously but it didn’t help. The problem has been solved and ironically after trying everything I could possibly think of I called Xfinity and a tech came out and replaced the cablebox with a different brand and it’s smooth sailing so far. Thanks again.

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If you sign up for Beta firmware for the Apple TV 4K at Apple, you don’t have to wait until the fall to enjoy Dolby Atmos support with apps like VUDU. As seen in my previous post that’s the Avengers in Dolby Vision/ Dolby Atmos running on the VUDU app in the pictures through my RX-A2080

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Is there any way to see on the unit display what of type stream is decoding ex: Dolby Digital,DTS,etc? So far the only way to see it is pressing display button to see it on the screen.
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Is there any way to see on the unit display what of type stream is decoding ex: Dolby Digital,DTS,etc? So far the only way to see it is pressing display button to see it on the screen.
There should be an INFO button on your remote somewhere to switch between the input and type of decoding, etc. shown on the front panel (right below the FM tuner button on one of my family members Yamaha receiver's remote).

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There should be an INFO button on your remote somewhere to switch between the input and type of decoding, etc. shown on the front panel (right below the FM tuner button on one of my family members Yamaha receiver's remote).
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My old RX-V457, which I want to use to power the four ceiling speakers, was an odd duck in that it did give the analog multichannel input the same processing for channel trim, bass management, and speaker distance as all its other inputs.

I've reset it to factory defaults with its front channel buttons.

Unfortunately, it no longer responds to any button presses on the remote other than On/Off, Input Select, and Volume. It will not let me into its setup.

According to its manual, the factory default is that all channels are set to a distance of 3 meters from main listening position. Since it has all speakers the same distance away, can I assume that it will not introduce any delay of its own? That would be fine.

However, it also defaults to setting Front speakers to Large and Surround speakers to Small. That means that it will divert the rear ceiling speakers' bass below 80Hz to its subwoofer jack, which will not even be connected to anything. Can I ignore that on the basis that the 3070 would already have diverted anything down there in its own bass management?

Are those assumptions correct, or should I instead only use this unit's FL and FR, to drive the rear pair of ceiling speakers, and use channels 8 and 9 of the 3070's power amps for the front pair? (I assume the front overhead pair is more important than the rear overhead pair.)

The RX-V457's specs only claim 85W per channel, as compared to the 3070's 165W. The ceiling speakers will be much smaller than the mains, being a set of silver Denon tube speakers, so I'm hoping that this won't be a problem. The older amp drove the main set of Paradigm speakers (Studio 40s and 20s, which I still use) for many years until I got my RX-A1030. I want to use the 1030 in an HDMI living room setup, which is why I'm trying so hard to use this pre-HDMI older unit as the second power amp.

BTW, does anyone know how to overcome the RX-V457's refusal to let me get into setup since it's been in its dotage in my living room? While it was my theater receiver, that wasn't a problem. I've tried changing the remote's ID number, leaving the receiver unplugged overnight with the remote's batteries removed.as well, but nothing helps.

If I can somehow get into setup, should I change all the speaker distances to zero as well as setting all the speakers I'm using to Large?

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Sorry if it's already been discussed but what will the 3060/3070 eq bass down to, is it 16hz or 30hz ?.
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Sorry if it's already been discussed but what will the 3060/3070 eq bass down to, is it 16hz or 30hz ?.
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Yamaha's YPAO (and supplied mic) are only good down to 31.3Hz, with only 4 bands of EQ
(So it does almost nothing for Sub EQ)


If you have a laptop, REW (Room EQ Wizard) free software download, and a calibrated UMIK-1 USB mic (~$75)
You can measure your rooms FR and make slightly less limited manual PEQ corrections in the 3060/3070 down to 16Hz.

How to get the Yamaha Web Controller access from your laptop/pc here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post55412946

Or you can get a miniDSP 2x4HD (for ~$200)
and Calibrate/EQ/Time Align up to 4 individual subs with Dirac Live software
Good down to 10Hz, with 10 Bands of Full range EQ, (for each of the 4 individual outputs)

...and even set up to 4 miniDSP BEQ memory presets accessible with a miniDSP remote ($5)

Well that's how I roll with my 3 y/o RX-A3050 7.4.4 setup (that was once limited by YPAO to 31.3Hz)
Currently running 4 subs ~13,600w Peak ULF/LFE output, good down to 10Hz in an <2000^3 room



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Yamaha's YPAO (and supplied mic) are only good down to 31.3Hz, with only 4 bands of EQ
(So it does almost nothing for Sub EQ)
the main problem of YPAO is it lacks the R.S.C. part for the subwoofers which does the main correction (for the other speakers), especially the precise elimination of reverberations caused by standing waves.
you can't achieve this with a 1/3 octave incremented PEQ
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Yamaha's YPAO (and supplied mic) are only good down to 31.3Hz, with only 4 bands of EQ
(So it does almost nothing for Sub EQ)

If you have a laptop, REW (Room EQ Wizard) free software download, and a calibrated UMIK-1 USB mic (~$75)
You can measure your rooms FR and make slightly less limited manual PEQ corrections in the 3060/3070 down to 16Hz.

How to get the Yamaha Web Controller access from your laptop/pc here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post55412946

Or you can get a miniDSP 2x4HD (for ~$200)
and Calibrate/EQ/Time Align up to 4 individual subs with Dirac Live software
Good down to 10Hz, with 10 Bands of Full range EQ, (for each of the 4 individual outputs)

...and even set up to 4 miniDSP BEQ memory presets accessible with a miniDSP remote ($5)

Well that's how I roll with my 3 y/o RX-A3050 7.4.4 setup (that was once limited by YPAO to 31.3Hz)
Currently running 4 subs ~13,600w Peak ULF/LFE output, good down to 10Hz in an <2000^3 room



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I’m a little confused. The 3070 has a subwoofer trim setting and a subwoofer dB level setting. Why is there two different settings?

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I’m a little confused. The 3070 has a subwoofer trim setting and a subwoofer dB level setting. Why is there two different settings?
Convenience.
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I’m a little confused. The 3070 has a subwoofer trim setting and a subwoofer dB level setting. Why is there two different settings?
Trim setting is input specific. The speaker setup level control is a global setting.
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I’m a little confused. The 3070 has a subwoofer trim setting and a subwoofer dB level setting. Why is there two different settings?
Trim setting is input specific. The speaker setup level control is a global setting.
Sw trim is a global setting unless you program into scenes.

Input trim is input specific but affects overall volume, not sub output specifically.

BTW, sw trim in option menu is different from sub level in the manual speaker setup menu. It doesn't apply full boost until 1/3 octave below crossover, only partially above that point with pretty much nothing above crossover point. Basically, it tapers the overlap between bass management and speaker output on sub side of things.

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I’m a little confused. The 3070 has a subwoofer trim setting and a subwoofer dB level setting. Why is there two different settings?
Convenience.
One other poster and myself measured the difference between sw lvl and sw trim for bass managed speakers. It didn't affect LFE channel, though.

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Sorry if it's already been discussed but what will the 3060/3070 eq bass down to, is it 16hz or 30hz ?.
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Yamaha's YPAO (and supplied mic) are only good down to 31.3Hz, with only 4 bands of EQ
(So it does almost nothing for Sub EQ)


If you have a laptop, REW (Room EQ Wizard) free software download, and a calibrated UMIK-1 USB mic (~$75)
You can measure your rooms FR and make slightly less limited manual PEQ corrections in the 3060/3070 down to 16Hz.

How to get the Yamaha Web Controller access from your laptop/pc here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post55412946

Or you can get a miniDSP 2x4HD (for ~$200)
and Calibrate/EQ/Time Align up to 4 individual subs with Dirac Live software
Good down to 10Hz, with 10 Bands of Full range EQ, (for each of the 4 individual outputs)

...and even set up to 4 miniDSP BEQ memory presets accessible with a miniDSP remote ($5)

Well that's how I roll with my 3 y/o RX-A3050 7.4.4 setup [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG] (that was once limited by YPAO to 31.3Hz)
Currently running 4 subs ~13,600w Peak ULF/LFE output, good down to 10Hz in an <2000^3 room



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What is BEQ?

Also, the dirac live support is another $200 or so extra but IMO the 10 bands of PEQ is plenty for sub EQ.

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What is BEQ?
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Also, the dirac live support is another $200 or so extra but IMO the 10 bands of PEQ is plenty for sub EQ.
The only Pluggin required for BEQ is the 2X4 HD1 https://www.minidsp.com/products/plu.../2x4hd1-detail

...and when you buy the miniDSP 2x4HD it ships with a coupon code to download it for free.



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...and even set up to 4 miniDSP BEQ memory presets accessible with a miniDSP remote ($5)
Actually...and I just found this out yesterday because I'm looking hard at getting a 2x4HD...you can use any old remote because the MiniDSP will learn the IR code and map it to it's internal functions. Pretty cool if you ask me. Will work a trick if you have a universal remote, as I do.

Check page 42 in the MiniDSP manual.
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Actually...and I just found this out yesterday because I'm looking hard at getting a 2x4HD...you can use any old remote because the MiniDSP will learn the IR code and map it to it's internal functions. Pretty cool if you ask me. Will work a trick if you have a universal remote, as I do.

Check page 42 in the MiniDSP manual.
Yes, I saw that on Zeos' Youtube review:
Great vid explaining the power of the miniDSP 2x4HD (Language warning LOL!)

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