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post #3931 of 5024 Old 09-25-2018, 10:00 PM
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Will try that soon. I'm hard wiring it in soon as well. Maybe not doing wireless will help as well.

As far as Apple vs Android app, no experience with Apple at all. But besides the random new IP address, never had any issues with the app crashing or any other issues. Hope the wired in network will resolve. Thanks guys
I was not referring to seeing the app crashing. It is unreliable in part where it detects AVR(s).

As for the static IP - make your router issue the same IP for your AVR based on MAC address your AVR reports to the router or disable DHCP in the AVR setup, specify a static IP, network mask and gateway. But you still may want to make changes in the router's DHCP and reserve that IP. If you do not, the router may assign the IP you statically defined in the AVR to some other device, then you will have to fight that duplicate network IP problem which could have been totally prevented.
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I was not referring to seeing the app crashing. It is unreliable in part where it detects AVR(s).

As for the static IP - make your router issue the same IP for your AVR based on MAC address your AVR reports to the router or disable DHCP in the AVR setup, specify a static IP, network mask and gateway. But you still may want to make changes in the router's DHCP and reserve that IP. If you do not, the router may assign the IP you statically defined in the AVR to some other device, then you will have to fight that duplicate network IP problem which could have been totally prevented.
Depending on the router, a range of IP address can be defined in the router for use by DHCP. Certainly a range of 100 addresses is plenty. The remainder of the IP addresses can be used as static IP addresses and can be assigned directly in the equipment, for example the AVR or thermostat for that matter.


For example, in a Netgear X4S router:

LAN Setup under Advanced:

The private network is 10 based:

IP Address of router: 10.0.0.1

Subnet mask: 256.256.256.0

Use Router as DHCP service box checked, that is YES

Starting IP address: 10.0.0.100

Ending IP address: 10.0.0.254


The above provides a huge set of addresses for DHCP: 100 thru 254

It also allows the addresses between 10.0.0.2 and 10.0.0.99 to be assigned as static addresses either in the router or in the specific piece of equipment. In this setup with very few pieces of equipment requiring static addresses, the static addresses are assigned directly in the piece of equipment, a NAS for example.
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Exclamation Some units could be badly manufactured with a defective power supply?

Hey everyone. It's me again with the question about the worrying high-pitch electrical buzz noise that comes from the RX-A3070 unit when on stand-by.

I got TWO RX-A3070 units and they both shown a weird symptom. First I bought one unit, told the problem to my retailer who replace my unit for a new one and the second one had the same symptom: there is a worrying high frequency noise coming from the internal transformer when the unit is on stand-by and plugged in an electrical outlet. I asked Yamaha Canada and Yamaha USA for some answers. Both replied that they are not aware of this problem, which I doubt because I've found reports here and there of Rx-A__70 customers who says having the same problem and told Yamaha about it. The best answer from Yamaha is to take my unit to a repair shop...

Is there some badly manufactured Rx-A__70 units that were sold? This is my question. So, again, for all Yamaha Aventage Rx-A1070/2070/3070 owners who reads this, please reply here if you experience the same problem. I need a greater amount of answers.

It's easy to verify: Simply plug your unit in an electrical outlet in a quiet room, let the receiver on "STAND-BY" (not turned on) and you will be able to hear the high-frequency noise that comes from the unit.

If we are enough people to report this problem, maybe we will finally have an answer from Yamaha. Is this worrying sound normal? If no, is it possible that some units were simply badly manufactured? And more importantly, if there is indeed a problem: given the price we've paid for a top-notch state of the art product that was badly manufactured with a defective transformer, don't we deserve a formal recall or a replacement?

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Hey everyone. It's me again with the question about the worrying high-pitch electrical buzz noise that comes from the RX-A3070 unit when on stand-by.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/IMG]

I got TWO RX-A3070 units and they both shown a weird symptom. First I bought one unit, told the problem to my retailer who replace my unit for a new one and the second one had the same symptom: there is a worrying high frequency noise coming from the internal transformer when the unit is on stand-by and plugged in an electrical outlet. I asked Yamaha Canada and Yamaha USA for some answers. Both replied that they are not aware of this problem, which I doubt because I've found reports here and there of Rx-A__70 customers who says having the same problem and told Yamaha about it. The best answer from Yamaha is to take my unit to a repair shop...

Is there some badly manufactured Rx-A__70 units that were sold? This is my question. So, again, for all Yamaha Aventage Rx-A1070/2070/3070 owners who reads this, please reply here if you experience the same problem. I need a greater amount of answers. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG]

It's easy to verify: Simply plug your unit in an electrical outlet in a quiet room, let the receiver on "STAND-BY" (not turned on) and you will be able to hear the high-frequency noise that comes from the unit.

If we are enough people to report this problem, maybe we will finally have an answer from Yamaha. Is this worrying sound normal? If no, is it possible that some units were simply badly manufactured? And more importantly, if there is indeed a problem: given the price we've paid for a top-notch state of the art product that was badly manufactured with a defective transformer, don't we deserve a formal recall or a replacement?

Peace!
I don't believe that some have it and others don't (for an exact model/year that is affected). Instead, I believe some can hear it and others cannot due to hearing capability, room noise floor, proximity to other devices making background/idle noises, etc.

My 2070 has had this sound since last August when I bought it and it has no caused any real problem at all. Can’t even hear it unless I'm standing a couple feet from it or closer.

I wouldn't worry and be aware some will say they don't have this issue but it may actually be quite widespread amongst these models for the above reasons and more.

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Hey everyone. It's me again with the question about the worrying high-pitch electrical buzz noise that comes from the RX-A3070 unit when on stand-by.
How many different outlets/rooms have you tried? Using a surge protector?
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I finally got around to swapping my new RX-A3070 into the old RX-A3050's spot.
Both dead silent in standby mode, just like the 10 y/o RX-V3900 before those.

My entire room full of very expensive toys runs through one of my 3 Monster Clean Power centers.
...even have one in the rear of the room for my JVC projector, rear subs and powered recliners lol!



I've had pretty good luck finding them at half price around Black Friday/Boxing Day.

I hate repeating myself, but after 4 decades using Yamaha Receivers exclusively, no problem, ever.

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I am wanting to pull the trigger on the 3070. I can jump on a smoking deal!
Just waiting on the spouses approval first.


I have looked at the 3080, other than being this years iterations, are there any benefits over the 3070 that the 3080 has?


I am familiar with Yamaha,
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I am wanting to pull the trigger on the 3070. I can jump on a smoking deal!
Just waiting on the spouses approval first.


I have looked at the 3080, other than being this years iterations, are there any benefits over the 3070 that the 3080 has?


I am familiar with Yamaha,
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RXA-2030 (Primary HT)
Check out the RX-A3080 thread,

IMHO, the RX-A3080 significant step Backwards, with as many features being stripped out as new ones added.
...and the primary reason I scrambled to find one of the few remaining RX-A3070's in my area (with a $600 discount!)


https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...vr-thread.html



2018 updates vs 2017 Aventage Models:

  • Surround Artificial Intelligence
  • Wireless Multi-Cast Surround
  • 1-More HDMI Output (Zone 2) for 3 Total
  • 2-XLR Pre-Outs (Front L/R Speakers)
  • New Back-Lit remote, with 8 Scene buttons
  • Bluetooth version 4.2 (receiver only)
  • 5.8Ghz WiFi support added
  • Improved GUI (?)

Removed from 2017 Models:

  • 1-HMDI input from Front Panel (absent on 2018 models)
  • Number of Scenes reduced from 12 to 8 (4 less on 2018 models)
  • Bluetooth V2.1 Receiver and Transmitter (Transmitter eliminated on 2018 models)
  • Up-Mixing of Dolby Digital, DD+ and TrueHD will be limited to Dolby Surround (or a Yamaha DSP mode) on New 2018 models
    (2017 models can still use Neural:X Up-Mixer on any sound format, up to 7.1.4)

Reports from several users are that the new Surround AI is completely useless

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Thanks,


I have read the 2 or 3 threads on the xx80 series.
Nothing there really piques my "gotta have it" interest.
HDR pass through is the biggest feature I am looking for
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I have read the 2 or 3 threads on the xx80 series.
Nothing there really piques my "gotta have it" interest.
HDR pass through is the biggest feature I am looking for

Yup,

My primary reason to go up from my RX-A3050 was for Dolby Vision pass through.
For my LG OLED, Oppo 203, and now XBOX ONE X will be getting DV too.

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I finally got around to swapping my new RX-A3070 into the old RX-A3050's spot.
Good deal. Any audible difference?
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Good deal. Any audible difference?
Too soon to say, I still have to run through YPAO and REW several times before I can do any critical listening.
My RX-A3050 took a while to tune to perfection with 4 Sub's, and now I have a 5th on the way ...a Big Ass 24.0
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Removed from 2017 Models:

  • 1-HMDI input from Front Panel (absent on 2018 models)
  • Number of Scenes reduced from 12 to 8 (4 less on 2018 models)
  • Bluetooth V2.1 Receiver and Transmitter (Transmitter eliminated on 2018 models)
  • Up-Mixing of Dolby Digital, DD+ and TrueHD will be limited to Dolby Surround (or a Yamaha DSP mode) on New 2018 models
    (2017 models can still use Neural:X Up-Mixer on any sound format, up to 7.1.4)
...

So, the question that I have is can one still use Dolby Surround on DTS HD MA signals? The other removed features don't concern me as I don't use any of them.

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So, the question that I have is can one still use Dolby Surround on DTS HD MA signals? The other removed features don't concern me as I don't use any of them.
DTS has not placed any limitations on their codecs, so you can still use Dolby Surround on those
....it's just Dolby being dicks about theirs audio all stays within their spec. This will effect all AVR's and Pre-Pro's soon,
Yamaha was just the first to follow the up-coming mandate. Denon and Marantz 2018 models are still free to do as they please.

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I recently got a rx-a1070. What HDMI Ports would you suggest to use for Apple TV 4K and XBox One?

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I recently got a rx-a1070. What HDMI Ports would you suggest to use for Apple TV 4K and XBox One?
Any of the rear ports should work. The front port is HDMI 1.4 only. All the others should be HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2. Be sure that 4K mode 1 is set in the advanced setup menu, otherwise you will not get the full 18Gbps bandwidth from the rear hdmi ports.
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I hope this issue is appropriate for this thread.


I purchased a RX-A1070 a few months ago, as well as a LG65B7A oled TV, followed by a 4K Apple TV. I have everything connected and working great, after many hours of reading lengthy manuals, threads on this forum, Googled articles on the internet, etc etc. I have speakers set up in a 5.1 arrangement plus 2 overhead speakers for Atmos sound.


I have the 4k ATV connected with a high quality HDMI cable to the 1070 and from there to the TV, and have subscribed to Netflix's UHD/HDR service. I have been successful in streaming DolbyVision content from the ATV to the TV, and it looks wonderful. The final step I'm having difficulty with is finding HDR titles with ATMOS. Since Netflix makes it impossible to search for ATMOS material as a category, I found some websites that provided listings of titles that are available in HDR and ATMOS.



When I go to those titles on Netflix, I find they are shown as having DolbyVision and 5.1 sound rather than ATMOS sound. ATMOS was recently made available on my 4kATV settings (via a software update received automatically in the past few days), so I'm wondering if the issue is with Netflix or something else? I have to admit I haven't yet mastered the myriad options for sound on the 1070, so don't know if I have something set incorrectly or not. I'd like to keep things simple by having the AVR give me the best sound for whatever audio signal it is receiving from the cable box, ATV, etc. without me having to make selections or adjustments.



Edit/Update: I have since found some titles with Atmos and it works fine, so I assume the issue is with Netflix or the list that was posted.

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I bought an RX-A3070 AVR a couple of months ago and my wife is using it to play music from the net, which she dances to, trying to lose weight. She has one of those something.bit that keeps up with her weight, etc. Anyway, we turn the TV on (Samsung) and the 3070 and she gets great sound. The problem is that she wants to see the songs being sung on the TV. When she sets it up, the music etc. plays well on the chromebook, but in order to watch it on TV, she has to shut the chrome book. I guess I'm asking how do I get into the youtube to have it play on the chromebook and the TV? She broke her arm a couple of months ago and wants to maintain her activity level. I guess I'm trying to find out how to use my equipment so she can have her fun with the music.
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How many different outlets/rooms have you tried? Using a surge protector?
I tried many, it's not an electrical problem from my house.
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I tried many, it's not an electrical problem from my house.
Oh... and the more I dig the internet with "transformer hum" or "transformer buzz" keywords, the more I find customers who reports the same problem. It's obviously not only the Aventage 70 series, but many many more over the years. Some says that what we're hearing are the laminations on the power transformer smacking into each other 60 times a second. It's a mechanical noise, like ringing a bell, caused by the 60Hz frequency of the current going through the primary winding. Some others says that some transformers are simply badly manufactured, as they are one of the most expensive parts of receivers, companies try to save costs and go cheap on them... I don't know what to believe. One thing for sure, the transformer in my RX-A3070 unit makes a worrying sound, I'm not happy with this, there are many customers with the same issue, and Yamaha still pretend they are not aware. They only suggest me to take my receiver for repairs! For me it's NO. It's not if the receiver broke at my house; it's a badly manufactured unit with a defective power supply and I didn't pay for this! I suggest everyone who experience the same problem to report it to Yamaha. It's time they look at this more seriously.
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Hi Twelton43,
If you’re still here, I’m having the exact same issue after updating firmware 2.58 yesterday. Noticed some settings had changed ie. Bluetooth on (I turned off like you did), also front and rear virtual presence speakers were enabled. I was really hoping this was the problem, but disabling them didn’t help either. Will call tech support Monday to see if they can help. For now, a temporary workaround has worked. Once I turn on airplay through the Yamaha and get the garbled sound about 30 seconds later, I switch speakers to the computer (running through an iMac), then back to the receiver, and it has been playing great from that point on. I’ve just had to do this every time I start Airplay through the Yamaha. A PITA for sure, but at least it works until we, or Yamaha figure this out. Hope this helps,
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I'm also on 2.58 FW (RXA1070 and RXV781), both units present the garbled sound exactly after 30 seconds.
One time it corrected on its own after 2 minutes.
It usually continues stuttering thru the next tracks until you switch back to the iOS device internal speakers and try to airplay again.

I've been able to replicate the problem on 3 iphones running different iOS (9, 10 and 12), as well as on my macbook.

If the AVR is OFF and you use your apple device to wake it up selecting it in the Airplay Menu, you will almost certainly encounter this issue every time.

Was tech support of any help?

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A3070 Pre-Out Not "Always On"

I have an A3070 and I’m having trouble with setting up the pre-out/zone-out the way I want.

The short question is: Is there a way to manually turn Zone 3 pre-out on regardless of the Power Amp Assigned on page 131 of the manual? I thought the pre-amps would be “always on” but they don't seem to be.

The long question/explanation:

I have a 5.1.2 setup in my living room. I have 2 other zones I want to control through the A3070 as well. All the speakers in Zone 2 and Zone 3 are powered by an amplifier (AudioSource AD5012). I want to be able to control Zone 2 and Zone 3 independently (as Zone 2 is outdoors and Zone 3 is indoors).

I currently use the Power Amp Assigned as 7.2.2 +1 Zone (as describe on pg 131 of the manual). This leaves me with Zone 1 (living room) working just the way I want, Zone 2 working just the way I want it (pre-amp 2 sending the signal to the amp and the amp powering outdoor speakers). But there is no audio on Zone 3 pre-amp (which maybe shouldn't come as a shock as the setup says it's only 1 zone out).

I don’t see any way to just “flip on” the Zone 3 pre-out, and I don’t see any other Power Amp Assigned programs (on pg 131) that fit what I need (wanting to use my Atmos speakers in the 5.1.2 setup and wanting Zone 2 and Zone 3 preamps turned on). The 7.2 setup allows for 2 zones and when I chose that I get the zone 3 pre-amp working, but then I lose my 2 Atmos speakers.

This seems like a simple thing to fix, but I’m not able to figure out how to do it.

Any help is appreciated!
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Lip Sync?

My video is ahead of my sound. If I understand correctly, lip sync adjustments are for slowing down the sound? I would just try changing the settings but the lip sync menu is unaccessible (can't select it). I wrote Yamaha help and they were no help. Sound with discs seems good but Netflix, Amazon Prime, and cable thru the set top box all have a distracting delay of sound after video.

I recently added the Sony Disc Player and an Outlaw amp for my front channels. I can't swear when the problem started but thinking it was one or the either.

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Can we use the yamaha rx-a1070 to listen through bluetooth wireless headphones?

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Yes. Note, however, this feature has been removed on the 2018 models.
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Also, be aware that the receiver will continue to play through any connected speakers while you're listening with your Bluetooth headphones. You'll need to engage the Mute.
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New firmware 2.60 out today. Last update I did was when Dolby vision was released. Debating if should update or not since my system is working fine as is.

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New firmware 2.60 out today. Last update I did was when Dolby vision was released. Debating if should update or not since my system is working fine as is.


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Hmm, wonder what the improvement in DSD file playback really achieves. I have a number of DSD files and would like to know what I can expect.

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I got that FW 2.60 a few days ago when I contacted Yamaha support regarding airplay issues (installed via USB).

Been using it since then without a problem. All airplay problems are gone. I'm very satisfied with Yamaha phone support. If I find any bugs with my setup using 2.60 I'll report back.
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