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New Firmware Update available to v2.65:
Also online for Download: https://au.yamaha.com/en/support/upd..._rx-v3083.html

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This firmware includes 
  1. A switch from vTuner to airable.radio as the new internet radio service provider
  2. Stability improvement
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Do you know the effect of installing Australian/overseas firmware on a AVR in the US?

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Do you know the effect of installing Australian/overseas firmware on a AVR in the US?
Yamaha never released regional firmwares, I just compared the ones from Australia, Germany and Taiwan.
I have the international model which I updated from the USA, Taiwan or Australian website in the past by USB and the Yamaha is running strong as usual.
I also compared the firmwares from different websites, the binaries were identical,

If the FW would not fit for USA models, the receiver refuses to install.


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New Firmware Update available to v2.65:
Also online for Download: https://au.yamaha.com/en/support/upd..._rx-v3083.html

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This firmware includes 
  1. A switch from vTuner to airable.radio as the new internet radio service provider
  2. Stability improvement
Cheers
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I'm coming to a 3070 from a 1030. Both are currently boxed-up, as my house is being renovated. I'll use the 1030 upstairs, the 3070 in my theater.

I don't use vTuner a lot, but I have a catalog of favorite stations in it. Is there any way to either stay with vTuner or import my list of stations to airable radio? (I assume this same change will hit the 1030 when its firmware is updated.)

Edit: I just noticed that this is link is to Australian firmware, judging from the url above. Is the vTuner to airable radio change applicable to the USA firmware? On the USA website's download page for this version, it lists only "Stability improvement." - But the Australian page is the same. Where did you get the info about a switch of internet radio providers?


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There is no Australia specific Firmware, the link on the USA website leads to the same download: https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updat..._rx-v3083.html.
The changelog is the same. The binary content is also the same
Edit: the changelog for xx70 series doesn't mention the switch from vTuner to airable.radio, looks like only for xx50 nd xx60 series.


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So has anyone figured out how to migrate radio station libraries from vTuner to airable radio? For vTuner, you set them up at vTuner's website.


EDIT: Apparently, airable is owned by TuneIn - but I haven't been able to find out if they share logins and favorites. My Yammies are still in their boxes.


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A RX-V685, two years ago? Um…. I suspect not.
Me either. Good catch. I think it was a 681.

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I'm coming to a 3070 from a 1030. Both are currently boxed-up, as my house is being renovated. I'll use the 1030 upstairs, the 3070 in my theater.

I don't use vTuner a lot, but I have a catalog of favorite stations in it. Is there any way to either stay with vTuner or import my list of stations to airable radio? (I assume this same change will hit the 1030 when its firmware is updated.)

Edit: I just noticed that this is link is to Australian firmware, judging from the url above. Is the vTuner to airable radio change applicable to the USA firmware? On the USA website's download page for this version, it lists only "Stability improvement." - But the Australian page is the same. Where did you get the info about a switch of internet radio providers?
Both the AU details page and, for a day, the US details page both mentioned the Net Radio change. It's just gone poof.

I presumed that Yamaha receivers simply store the login for your vTuner account, the sync the cloud. This is how when you edit Favorites on the web, the change is reflected in the AVR.

I would not expect Yamaha to handle the migration of user accounts, settings, bookmarks/favorites. They're probably going to let the user deal with that. :-\

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There is no Australia specific Firmware, the link on the USA website leads to the same download: https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updat..._rx-v3083.html.
The changelog is the same. The binary content is also the same
Edit: the changelog for xx70 series doesn't mention the switch from vTuner to airable.radio, looks like only for xx50 nd xx60 series.
Check the release page for the AU download.

FYI, au.yamaha.com/en/support/updates details page links to an au.yamaha.com download link, NOT the same as USA download link. Perhaps they're the same binary, I'll let you sleuth that.

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I just ordered the 3070, plan on running the sub out to a 6000D amp which will power two passive 18" subs, anybody else doing this setup?
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I just ordered the 3070, plan on running the sub out to a 6000D amp which will power two passive 18" subs, anybody else doing this setup?
To the AVR, there is virtually no difference compared to those using a powered sub with its own built-in integrated amplifier.
Your amplifier is just sitting outside of the sub cabinet


Most subs with integrated amplifiers have very specific filters/limiters in place to protect the driver its specifically designed for.
Since your amp has no idea what its being used for and what its upper limits are, make sure you understand the use of High Pass/Low Pass filters
so you don't exceed the power limits and frequency range of the driver or it could go *poof* if you push it too hard.

The Behringer NX6000D with DSP has its own software for providing the necessary filters,
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...ifier-with-dsp

This is obviously not the thread for that as it falls outside the domain of the AVR being used.
The DIY crew is where you want to ask about External amps for Flat-Pack DIY subs : https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/
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I just ordered the 3070, plan on running the sub out to a 6000D amp which will power two passive 18" subs, anybody else doing this setup?

I am running a 21" off a bridged 3000DSP. I am using an Aphex 124A to convert the RCA to an XLR it bumps the line voltage up on the XLR side going to the amp. You might want to bump the gain on the iNuke for channels A and B. Your goal is to have a negative number for the sub trim level after running YPAO, since you do not want to clip the input signal going to the amp. Start with the volume knob at 3 o' clock. Humming could be introduced going higher than that on the gain knobs. Setting a peak limiter is not a bad idea either, mine is at -.7 dbfs. Either an RCA to XLR or TS cable for connecting to the sub output on the 3070 will work fine. Are the subwoofers vented or sealed? It is fine not having a HPF on a sealed subwoofer, ported subs lose control of excursion just below the tuning frequency of the vent.

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I am running a 21" off a bridged 3000DSP. I am using an Aphex 124A to convert the RCA to an XLR it bumps the line voltage up on the XLR side going to the amp. You might want to bump the gain on the iNuke for channels A and B. Your goal is to have a negative number for the sub trim level after running YPAO, since you do not want to clip the input signal going to the amp. Start with the volume knob at 3 o' clock. Humming could be introduced going higher than that on the gain knobs. Setting a peak limiter is not a bad idea either, mine is at -.7 dbfs. Either an RCA to XLR or TS cable for connecting to the sub output on the 3070 will work fine. Are the subwoofers vented or sealed? It is fine not having a HPF on a sealed subwoofer, ported subs lose control of excursion just below the tuning frequency of the vent.
Thanks for the tips, this will help quite a bit to get me started, I def don't want to damage the subs. I have two marty cube ported subs with UM18 drivers in them. I have an RCA to XLR adapter and planned on running that out of one of the sub outs on the amp into the A channel of the 6000D, then I was going to run each output of the amp to the subs via speakon connectors on 12GA speaker wire.
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Hello all,

Happy owner of a yamaha a2070 here. Just completed my 5.1 setup of my home theater. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on going 5.2 first or should i go 5.1.4? My main usage is home theater gaming on xbox one x and then movies via hulu/netflix and also music. Im very happy and content with my current setup but i want to take the next step. I have chane A series speakers and a 10" monolith subwoofer. I was debating either getting 4 ceiling mounted NHT superzero 2.1s for atmos or whatever you all recommend as the best non inceiling speakers that are reasonablly affordable or I was going to just go 5.2 and get another monolith but the 12". Any and all recommendations are appreciated. Ive heard atmos a few times but ill only be able to do 5.1.2 until i get an external amp. So spend 800 on an amp and 4 speakers or 800 on my 2nd subwoofer?
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Hello all,

Happy owner of a yamaha a2070 here. Just completed my 5.1 setup of my home theater. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on going 5.2 first or should i go 5.1.4? My main usage is home theater gaming on xbox one x and then movies via hulu/netflix and also music. Im very happy and content with my current setup but i want to take the next step. I have chane A series speakers and a 10" monolith subwoofer. I was debating either getting 4 ceiling mounted NHT superzero 2.1s for atmos or whatever you all recommend as the best non inceiling speakers that are reasonablly affordable or I was going to just go 5.2 and get another monolith but the 12". Any and all recommendations are appreciated. Ive heard atmos a few times but ill only be able to do 5.1.2 until i get an external amp. So spend 800 on an amp and 4 speakers or 800 on my 2nd subwoofer?
The RX-A2070 is a 9 channel AVR ( 9 channel processing, 9 internal amps) and fully capable of 5.1.4 (5+4=9)
There is no need for an external amplifier to power 9 speakers.


Only the RX-A3070 can be expanded with an external amp (from 5.1.4 to 7.1.4)
it has 11 channel processing with 9 internal amps

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Hello all,

Happy owner of a yamaha a2070 here. Just completed my 5.1 setup of my home theater. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on going 5.2 first or should i go 5.1.4? My main usage is home theater gaming on xbox one x and then movies via hulu/netflix and also music. Im very happy and content with my current setup but i want to take the next step. I have chane A series speakers and a 10" monolith subwoofer. I was debating either getting 4 ceiling mounted NHT superzero 2.1s for atmos or whatever you all recommend as the best non inceiling speakers that are reasonablly affordable or I was going to just go 5.2 and get another monolith but the 12". Any and all recommendations are appreciated. Ive heard atmos a few times but ill only be able to do 5.1.2 until i get an external amp. So spend 800 on an amp and 4 speakers or 800 on my 2nd subwoofer?
The RX-A2070 is a 9 channel AVR ( 9 channel processing, 9 internal amps) and fully capable of 5.1.4 (5+4=9)
There is no need for an external amplifier to power 9 speakers.


Only the RX-A3070 can be expanded with an external amp (from 5.1.4 to 7.1.4)
it has 11 channel processing with 9 internal amps
Youre right. Thank you, in that case would 800 be better spend on 4 atmos speakers or a 2nd subwoofer? If i go atmos i cannot pierce the walls or ceiling, i will have to upper wall mount. Anybody have better recommendations for atmos speakers than NHT superzero 2.1 or ML 2i's. Also that means i cannot have my atmos at the recommended locations, they would be at 7ft high front L and R and then two more 7ft high directly behind MLP at where the ceiling meets the wall.
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The 4 presence speakers in my 7.4.4 setup are high mounted bookshelf units Front and Rear
they are on swivel mounts titled down and toed-in toward the main listening position.

The angles are what's most important, 30º to 45º forward and rear from your ears.
if your room dimensions will accommodate them, sometimes Height speakers can work as good or better than ceiling/overhead





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Thanks for the tips, this will help quite a bit to get me started, I def don't want to damage the subs. I have two marty cube ported subs with UM18 drivers in them. I have an RCA to XLR adapter and planned on running that out of one of the sub outs on the amp into the A channel of the 6000D, then I was going to run each output of the amp to the subs via speakon connectors on 12GA speaker wire.
You are good to go. Same set up as me (except I've got two sealed UM18's running off a 6000D)

RCA->XLR into Input A, then both subs connected to the outputs of the nuke. Put the nuke in Biamp1 mode to do this. You probably know this, but you'll also heed a high-pass-filter for the ported sub.
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You are good to go. Same set up as me (except I've got two sealed UM18's running off a 6000D)

RCA->XLR into Input A, then both subs connected to the outputs of the nuke. Put the nuke in Biamp1 mode to do this. You probably know this, but you'll also heed a high-pass-filter for the ported sub.
I can just use the built-in DSP correct? I also picked up a mic to calibrate the system, I don't know what I'm doing yet but was going to read up on REW. Is Biamp1 just a setting in the amp?
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Yes, Biamp1 is a setting in the amp. You can adjust it when you run the software and set it up via USB. It's the Biamp1 mode that sets it up to use one input that gets sent to both outputs.

I'm not sure about using the 6000's DSP to set the High Pass Filter. You can do it of course, but the 6000's DSP is limited at the bottom end of the range to making adjustments to 20Hz. I suspect that your sub is tuned lower than that. Check over in the DIY subs forum on that one. You can use it (and I would until you find the best solution) but you might be leaving a little performance on the table since you can't set the filter any lower than 20Hz.
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I can just use the built-in DSP correct? I also picked up a mic to calibrate the system, I don't know what I'm doing yet but was going to read up on REW. Is Biamp1 just a setting in the amp?

Yes.


There is no problem using the builtin DSP, that is why the iNukes/NX series are so popular. Here is the work around for pushing the HPF under 20Hz - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...l#post55080702


For each -1db on the high shelf it pushes the filter roughly 1Hz lower, for a 17hz tuned sub -4db would push the filter to roughly 16Hz where it is needed. Each db you go down on the HS filter will require 1db of gain on the channel A input for instance to compensate for the negative HS filter.


Something more thread related. WiFi is working so much better on 2.65 than 2.60

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There is no problem using the builtin DSP, that is why the iNukes/NX series are so popular. Here is the work around for pushing the HPF under 20Hz - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...l#post55080702


For each -1db on the high shelf it pushes the filter roughly 1Hz lower, for a 17hz tuned sub -4db would push the filter to roughly 16Hz where it is needed. Each db you go down on the HS filter will require 1db of gain on the channel A input for instance to compensate for the negative HS filter.


Something more thread related. WiFi is working so much better on 2.65 than 2.60
Great, thanks!
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Something more thread related. WiFi is working so much better on 2.65 than 2.60
Was it also disappearing from your network? What kind of weirdness did you see with WiFi?

My A550 is always there whenever I use the AV Controller app, but A2070 almost religiously required me to toggle WiFi back and forth in order to get A2070 on the list of available devices.

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Was it also disappearing from your network? What kind of weirdness did you see with WiFi?



My A550 is always there whenever I use the AV Controller app, but A2070 almost religiously required me to toggle WiFi back and forth in order to get A2070 on the list of available devices.
It would drop cold off the network. Turning the adapter on and off would not bring it back. It would get progressively worse. First it would not show up in the app, go the webpage it comes back. Eventually it would require a wake on LAN packet to wake the adapter up. Once that stops working it would be time for the factory reset. Scan for networks, nothing. 2.65 though I have not had to use any tricks, it has been working that way for a few days. 2.60 that would never happen.

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It would drop cold off the network. Turning the adapter on and off would not bring it back. It would get progressively worse. First it would not show up in the app, go the webpage it comes back. Eventually it would require a wake on LAN packet to wake the adapter up. Once that stops working it would be time for the factory reset. Scan for networks, nothing. 2.65 though I have not had to use any tricks, it has been working that way for a few days. 2.60 that would never happen.

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I was always blaming my WiFi routers for dropping the A2070 off the network. The only thing stably detecting the receiver was my iPad, though lately even that thing could not see it all the time. I wish I saw others to complain about this behavior then I would definitely file a service request/a complaint with Yamaha.

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I couldn't find the answer to this vexing problem, please forgive me if I missed it in my laziness...

I'm trying to setup a split input to my 3070 for playing back music with roon. Eg. Video from hdmi, but audio from coax or xlr.

Roon can treat the shield as a "display" while playing music to another endpoint. I have a pi-based network transport/dac that had vastly better sound quality than the shield, but I like the video display roon can provide.

However, I also want to be able to use the shield normally (video & audio over hdmi).

Perfect world would be able to set the xlr (or coax) inputs and assign an hdmi video input. When I choose the hdmi input, it plays normally.

Is this possible?

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I couldn't find the answer to this vexing problem, please forgive me if I missed it in my laziness...

I'm trying to setup a split input to my 3070 for playing back music with roon. Eg. Video from hdmi, but audio from coax or xlr.

Roon can treat the shield as a "display" while playing music to another endpoint. I have a pi-based network transport/dac that had vastly better sound quality than the shield, but I like the video display roon can provide.

However, I also want to be able to use the shield normally (video & audio over hdmi).

Perfect world would be able to set the xlr (or coax) inputs and assign an hdmi video input. When I choose the hdmi input, it plays normally.

Is this possible?

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Well, I figured it out - sorta. In input assignments I can add the coax input, but not the xlr? Then use input settings to switch the audio to coax.

Still need to figure out how to do this with the harmony, and figure out xlr...

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Dialogue Echoes

My RX-A2070 seems to be working fine now according to YPAO and all the settings but no matter what I do I cannot get clear dialogue. Due to my slightly imperfect hearing I've put up with it but tonight we have friends and are trying the 4K version of the new A Star Is Born in Dolby Atmos. As soon as it started my wife (who hasn't watched anything on it before) and they complained about the echoing on dialogue.

I've tried setting all but the sub to small and large in settings, tried different crossover settings on all speakers (on small) and different subwoofer crossover settings, made sure no phantom speakers are on, tried DSP on and off etc. etc. but cannot eliminate the echo on dialogue.

Is it in all sounds? I'm not sure as it's easy to pick in dialogue but I don't really think so.

Is there something obvious I've missed?

One point I must make is that this was a refurbished unit but from a place with an excellent reputation for refurbished units, so although it's possible that was the original problem I doubt that's it.

I suspect I have missed a setting somewhere but where I have no idea.

HELP! 😁

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Dialogue Echoes

My RX-A2070 seems to be working fine now according to YPAO and all the settings but no matter what I do I cannot get clear dialogue. Due to my slightly imperfect hearing I've put up with it but tonight we have friends and are trying the 4K version of the new A Star Is Born in Dolby Atmos. As soon as it started my wife (who hasn't watched anything on it before) and they complained about the echoing on dialogue.

I've tried setting all but the sub to small and large in settings, tried different crossover settings on all speakers (on small) and different subwoofer crossover settings, made sure no phantom speakers are on, tried DSP on and off etc. etc. but cannot eliminate the echo on dialogue.

Is it in all sounds? I'm not sure as it's easy to pick in dialogue but I don't really think so.

Is there something obvious I've missed?

One point I must make is that this was a refurbished unit but from a place with an excellent reputation for refurbished units, so although it's possible that was the original problem I doubt that's it.

I suspect I have missed a setting somewhere but where I have no idea.

HELP! 😁

Suggestions gratefully accepted!

It sounds like you've got one of the Yamaha DSP soundfields engaged. Just try listening to it in STRAIGHT, or Dolby Surround, and you should find the echoing dialog stops.
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PS never had problems with the previous Pioneer 7.2 system and the speakers are unchanged except the two rear Atmos speakers have been wired in too. Therefore I assume to do with system setup and not the speakers.
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Something funny happened yesterday I have a rx-a3060 and a friend who is trying to sell me his rx-a3070 bring it home, I tried everything to calibrate the sound but it never sounded even close as the old receiver, I was hoping the sound to be at least the same, not worst.

Bass was incoherent, dynamics too low, never feel inside a movie, couldn't locate a sound where it was coming, don't know if his receiver had something wrong or what.

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PS never had problems with the previous Pioneer 7.2 system and the speakers are unchanged except the two rear Atmos speakers have been wired in too. Therefore I assume to do with system setup and not the speakers.
An echo effect sure sounds like one of the Cinema DSP modes is enabled ... ensure you're in Straight to start with, unless you want the aural simulation of the underground wine cellars of the Vatican or men's restroom at a Munich concert hall.

If it still echoes, go into Manual Setup, Configuration, and see if the "Distances" for any speakers are drastically wrong. E.g. one speaker is 30' when the room is only 12'x12'. The Distance setting is based on YPAO measurements of delays, and generally should be left as is after running YPAO.

You could also run YPAO again, especially if you wired in two rear height speakers AFTER the previous run of YPAO.

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Something funny happened yesterday I have a rx-a3060 and a friend who is trying to sell me his rx-a3070 bring it home, I tried everything to calibrate the sound but it never sounded even close as the old receiver, I was hoping the sound to be at least the same, not worst.

Bass was incoherent, dynamics too low, never feel inside a movie, couldn't locate a sound where it was coming, don't know if his receiver had something wrong or what.
Run the Reset to Default (factory reset) under Advanced Setup, then do automatic setup (including YPAO). There's no telling what configuration your friend has it in, but most likely NOT appropriate for your speaker setup. If you REALLY want an "apples to apples" comparison to yours, also reset yours and run setup.

But frankly, the difference in sound between a 3060 and 3070 will be negligible (or, his is malfunctioning). IMHO, consider buying his only if the 3070 has a feature you badly desire. If he's trying to sell it to you based on "it's newer, it's better!" then watch this video.


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