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Have you tried using one of the Audyssey Dynamic Volume settings (light, medium, heavy)?

Refer to post 3 of this thread and do each of the procedures for "Resetting the NR1608" stopping at the first one that resolves the issue. If still no joy, then warranty repair.
Hi JD,

Thanks for the advice. It seems, having checked my settings I must have fiddled with the Audyssey some time ago. I have Multi EQ set to Reference, Dynamic EQ set to On and Dynamic Volume set to Medium - please see attached photo...

If I don't want the AVR to make any adjustments at all, what should I have the EQ setting set to? OFF I guess?

I'll wait for your response first, adjust where necessary before trying the resets.

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The unplugging/replugging worked like a charm.Connected..Checked for update and its telling me I'm up to date with latest firmware which is 5461-9131-8331-1184 ?
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The unplugging/replugging worked like a charm.Connected..Checked for update and its telling me I'm up to date with latest firmware which is 5461-9131-8331-1184 ?
Well thank you for that, I have been waiting for weeks for someone to answer me and post those numbers up

Hell I should forward you the emails with marantz support so they can put you through the ringer too, they claim we are not on the latest update

Anyhow I did the reset which made me do audyssey again, I set my surround heights as rear heights this time made a big differance

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Have you tried using one of the Audyssey Dynamic Volume settings (light, medium, heavy)?

Refer to post 3 of this thread and do each of the procedures for "Resetting the NR1608" stopping at the first one that resolves the issue. If still no joy, then warranty repair.
Hi JD,

Thanks for the steer and advice. I now understand (a little more) about Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume re: variations in audio levels between adverts (commercials ) etc so have reset these to zero and off whilst maintaining the Audyssey at Reference. When I get the Bronze 6s and Surrounds I'll default the whole system noting these variations.

Thanks again. Really appreciate your help - no longer frustrated! https://www.avsforum.com/forum/image...face_smile.png

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Hi JD,

Thanks for the steer and advice. I now understand (a little more) about Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume re: variations in audio levels between adverts (commercials ) etc so have reset these to zero and off whilst maintaining the Audyssey at Reference. When I get the Bronze 6s and Surrounds I'll default the whole system noting these variations.

Thanks again. Really appreciate your help - no longer frustrated! https://www.avsforum.com/forum/image...face_smile.png

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Indeed. Helps to understand the difference between the two technologies.
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Hello--I'm looking for some connection help; my SR-7012 is currently powering a 5.1 system, but I am bi-amping my front towers, so I'm in the 7.1 (bi-amp) mode. I want to add one pair of PSB Imagine XA Dolby Atmos-Enabled speakers to the system, which will sit on top of my front towers.

Looking in the manual (and this thread, which I've searched) I haven't found the proper settings/connections to do this. I want to keep the front towers bi-amped; those speakers are now connected to the Front R & L terminals, and the Height 2 R & L terminals, as shown in the manual. I'm thinking I can connect the new PSBs to the Height 1 R & L terminals, but what will I change the amp assign mode to, in order to correctly hear an Atmos soundtrack, and so that Audyssey will do a correct calibration?

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Hello--I'm looking for some connection help; my SR-7012 is currently powering a 5.1 system, but I am bi-amping my front towers, so I'm in the 7.1 (bi-amp) mode. I want to add one pair of PSB Imagine XA Dolby Atmos-Enabled speakers to the system, which will sit on top of my front towers.

Looking in the manual (and this thread, which I've searched) I haven't found the proper settings/connections to do this. I want to keep the front towers bi-amped; those speakers are now connected to the Front R & L terminals, and the Height 2 R & L terminals, as shown in the manual. I'm thinking I can connect the new PSBs to the Height 1 R & L terminals, but what will I change the amp assign mode to, in order to correctly hear an Atmos soundtrack, and so that Audyssey will do a correct calibration?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide.
I may have partially answered my own question; apparently I cannot bi-amp my front towers if I want to add front Atmos-enabled speakers. I am now guessing that I will run a single full range connection to my front towers, connect the PSB Atmos speakers to the Height 1 terminals on the AVR, and choose the '7.1 + Front B' amp assign mode; I can then choose a 5 channel floor layout, and select Dolby Front 2 channel from the Height menu. Does this sound like the correct way to do this, and will Audyssey recognize this kind of setup? (I don't have the PSBs yet to try them out). Thanks again for any help.

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I may have partially answered my own question; apparently I cannot bi-amp my front towers if I want to add front Atmos-enabled speakers. I am now guessing that I will run a single full range connection to my front towers, connect the PSB Atmos speakers to the Height 1 terminals on the AVR, and choose the '7.1 + Front B' amp assign mode; I can then choose a 5 channel floor layout, and select Dolby Front 2 channel from the Height menu. Does this sound like the correct way to do this, and will Audyssey recognize this kind of setup? (I don't have the PSBs yet to try them out). Thanks again for any help.
Skip the bi-amp which isn't likely to add any benefit and simply go with the factory default setting of "7.1 + Zone 2".
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Skip the bi-amp which isn't likely to add any benefit and simply go with the factory default setting of "7.1 + Zone 2".
Thanks for the response; just to clarify, with the Amp Assign mode on 7.1 + Zone 2, I then see
floor layout = 5 channel; and in the Height section, I should choose Dolby Speakers, 2 channels, and Front Dolby under Height/Layout. Then, looking at the terminal configuration, it is showing the Atmos speakers connected to the Front Height terminals; I will not actually be using Zone 2. Does this sound correct?
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Thanks for the response; just to clarify, with the Amp Assign mode on 7.1 + Zone 2, I then see
floor layout = 5 channel; and in the Height section, I should choose Dolby Speakers, 2 channels, and Front Dolby under Height/Layout. Then, looking at the terminal configuration, it is showing the Atmos speakers connected to the Front Height terminals; I will not actually be using Zone 2. Does this sound correct?
Thanks again for the help.
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I'm seeing some interesting behavior that i'm curious if someone can explain. I have 7012 and noticing on some old STB content and also from Netflix, built in TV App when the menus are playing, the 7012 display will show Dolby Digital + but it sounds like Dolby Surround is coming out of the speakers. Specifically, i'm getting sound from all 7 speakers but the center seems to be very low. Almost like the old surround where you could increase the center spread. With Netflix, for example, once the movie starts, then the sound if perfect. I get the same issue from my cable box when watching old 1960- 70's movies. On my 7009, when I had it, it would switch to Dolby Surround when the signal changed and the center was normal volume.

I know this is difficult to explain, but does anyone know what i'm talking about? Are there any work arounds?
I have a Verizon FiOS STB, Marantz 7012, Dolby Atmos setup. (LF +C + RF) (LR + RR) (TL + TR) and a sub.

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I am having a problem with my Marantz 5012. For the last week or so, the AirPlay function is not working. I like to stream music from my phone to the AVR. It has worked flawlessly up until now. The AVR is on my WIFI and I've tried resetting my modem. But nothing seems to work. The AVR will connect to my phone and the Airplay information will appear, but after about 5 seconds it disconnects. The AVR shows the latest firmware is installed.



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I need a bit of guidance. I have an SR6012 and I'm currently running mains, center, surrounds, and top mids. I'm thinking of adding front heights. According to the manual, the top mids and front heights both utilize the same speaker connections on the back of the AVR. Is it possible to add front height channels to my existing setup, and if so which speaker terminals would I plug them into on the AVR?

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I need a bit of guidance. I have an SR6012 and I'm currently running mains, center, surrounds, and top mids. I'm thinking of adding front heights. According to the manual, the top mids and front heights both utilize the same speaker connections on the back of the AVR. Is it possible to add front height channels to my existing setup, and if so which speaker terminals would I plug them into on the AVR?
The manual says to hook them up like this:
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I completely missed that in the manual. Thank you.
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Can anyone else post the latest firmware number from usa

Support still claims we are not on the latest
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I am having a problem with my Marantz 5012. For the last week or so, the AirPlay function is not working. I like to stream music from my phone to the AVR. It has worked flawlessly up until now. The AVR is on my WIFI and I've tried resetting my modem. But nothing seems to work. The AVR will connect to my phone and the Airplay information will appear, but after about 5 seconds it disconnects. The AVR shows the latest firmware is installed.



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Try doing a Network Reset on the AVR (p. 240 Owner's manual).
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I am having a problem with my Marantz 5012. For the last week or so, the AirPlay function is not working. I like to stream music from my phone to the AVR. It has worked flawlessly up until now. The AVR is on my WIFI and I've tried resetting my modem. But nothing seems to work. The AVR will connect to my phone and the Airplay information will appear, but after about 5 seconds it disconnects. The AVR shows the latest firmware is installed.

Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
Have you tried unplugging and replugging the 5012? (soft reset)

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I'm seeing some interesting behavior that i'm curious if someone can explain. I have 7012 and noticing on some old STB content and also from Netflix, built in TV App when the menus are playing, the 7012 display will show Dolby Digital + but it sounds like Dolby Surround is coming out of the speakers. Specifically, i'm getting sound from all 7 speakers but the center seems to be very low. Almost like the old surround where you could increase the center spread. With Netflix, for example, once the movie starts, then the sound if perfect. I get the same issue from my cable box when watching old 1960- 70's movies. On my 7009, when I had it, it would switch to Dolby Surround when the signal changed and the center was normal volume.

I know this is difficult to explain, but does anyone know what i'm talking about? Are there any work arounds?
I have a Verizon FiOS STB, Marantz 7012, Dolby Atmos setup. (LF +C + RF) (LR + RR) (TL + TR) and a sub.
Have you verified the actual surround mode with the surround selection buttons or INFO button? In other words, DD+ is a carrier format, not a surround mode. You can have Dolby Surround enabled with DD+ or even Neural X or something else. I've noticed the 7012 is a bit strange sometimes once you change a mode for a given format as it will try to remember your last choice and this somehow changes other formats sometimes as well (I keep my default stored on a smart select button for this reason so I can easily switch back to the default mode with Auto-select based on format when I want it).

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Have you verified the actual surround mode with the surround selection buttons or INFO button? In other words, DD+ is a carrier format, not a surround mode. You can have Dolby Surround enabled with DD+ or even Neural X or something else. I've noticed the 7012 is a bit strange sometimes once you change a mode for a given format as it will try to remember your last choice and this somehow changes other formats sometimes as well (I keep my default stored on a smart select button for this reason so I can easily switch back to the default mode with Auto-select based on format when I want it).
Yes. I also did a factory reset. It's strange because I looked in the 7012 online manual and it clearly shows the center spread audio option but when I go into the menus, it's not there. I'm guessing they updated the menu's but not the manuals? Also, anyone have the latest firmware version so I can double check what's on my unit.
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Yes. I also did a factory reset. It's strange because I looked in the 7012 online manual and it clearly shows the center spread audio option but when I go into the menus, it's not there. I'm guessing they updated the menu's but not the manuals? Also, anyone have the latest firmware version so I can double check what's on my unit.
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<Center Spread> can only be enabled when using Dolby Surround on a stereo 2.0 source.
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<Center Spread> can only be enabled when using Dolby Surround on a stereo 2.0 source.
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So I factory reset the unit, made sure I had the latest firmware and re-ran Audyssey and it's better but tell me, i'm not going to see Center Spread in the menu unless I have a stereo 2.0 source?

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So I factory reset the unit, made sure I had the latest firmware and re-ran Audyssey and it's better but tell me, i'm not going to see Center Spread in the menu unless I have a stereo 2.0 source?
No, I made it up.
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I got a new crown xli1500 amp on sale for $199 and want to use it to power 2 additional front speakers. My current setup is 5.2 in my main zone then I have 2 outdoor speakers connected to my height #2 speakers for zone 2. Anyone familiar with adding an additional amp to your 7012 that has some pointers? Thanks!
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Marantz SR7012 and Paradigms for Atmos Setup

Hello,

I have some really good paradigm monitors I am using for traditional 5.1 surround (Monitor 11 v3, Montior 5 v3, CC-370 v3 center and PS-1000 sub. I am getting a Marantz 7012 to upgrade to atmos and looking at in-ceiling to provide a 5.1.4. I have access to a good deal on (4) new in box Paradigm AMS-150SQ-SM v3 speakers. Specs are here:

https://www.paradigm.com/en/in-ceili...s/ams-150sq-sm

Could I please get some input as if these would be a suitable match? I wanted to do a 7.1.2, but i have no room on the sides of the seating areas.

Let me know what you think.

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No Audio Out with 2 HDMIs between Marantz and Oppo

Don't know if this has been a reported issue before. I have an OPPO UDP-205 and I tried using both the OPPO's HDMI (Audio Only) Out to the DVD HDMI input on the Marantz SR7012 while at the same time using the OPPO's HDMI (Video/Audio) Main Out to the Blu-Ray HDMI input on the Marantz. I wanted to use the HDMI (Audio Only) output of the OPPO (which is supposed to have a better jitter reduction circuit than the Main HDMI output) for music streaming from my Roon ROCK server. When I had both of them plugged in at the same time, it muted the audio (but not the video) output of the Blu-ray player when trying to play video discs. If I unplugged the HDMI cord [leading from the Oppo HDMI (Audio Only) Out to the Marantz DVD HDMI In] from the back of the Marantz, the sound returned. I know all the outputs on the OPPO are active all the time, but I didn't think there would be a muting interference when having both the Oppo HDMI Outs hooked up to different Marantz Source In's (and, of course, having only one Marantz source selected). Is this an expected behavior or am I doing something wrong? [This post may be more appropriate in the OPPO forum thread, as this could be a limitation of the OPPO]

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Don't know if this has been a reported issue before. I have an OPPO UDP-205 and I tried using both the OPPO's HDMI (Audio Only) Out to the DVD HDMI input on the Marantz SR7012 while at the same time using the OPPO's HDMI (Video/Audio) Main Out to the Blu-Ray HDMI input on the Marantz. I wanted to use the HDMI (Audio Only) output of the OPPO (which is supposed to have a better jitter reduction circuit than the Main HDMI output) for music streaming from my Roon ROCK server. When I had both of them plugged in at the same time, it muted the audio (but not the video) output of the Blu-ray player when trying to play video discs. If I unplugged the HDMI cord [leading from the Oppo HDMI (Audio Only) Out to the Marantz DVD HDMI In] from the back of the Marantz, the sound returned. I know all the outputs on the OPPO are active all the time, but I didn't think there would be a muting interference when having both the Oppo HDMI Outs hooked up to different Marantz Source In's (and, of course, having only one Marantz source selected). Is this an expected behavior or am I doing something wrong? [This post may be more appropriate in the OPPO forum thread, as this could be a limitation of the OPPO]

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Easy enough to test by simply connecting the MAIN output on the Oppo to the TV to see if the same issue presents.
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I am just getting around to setting up my Sony X800 Blu Ray. I have run Audyssey in the Cable mode and have set Multi EQ XT on, Dynamic EQ off and Dynamic volume set to light.


I noticed that when I changed the input to Blu Ray and started the disc the Multi EQ XT, dynamic EQ and Dynamic volume are all set to off? Do I need to run Audyssey for each HDMI input or room correction is still good from previous Audyssey calibration and it is just these items need to be adjusted. This doesn't happen when I switch form the Cable input to TV Audio?


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Easy enough to test by simply connecting the MAIN output on the Oppo to the TV to see if the same issue presents.
Thanks JD for the response. So you're implying that if this test does work with the OPPO, then my problem is a Marantz incompatibility? I will test for that, but I almost don't need to; I'm pretty sure it will work the way you've suggested.

The dual HDMI output of the OPPO was primarily designed to work that way -- if you don't have a HDMI 2.0 compliant AVR but you do have a 4K HDMI 2.0 TV (or even a 3D TV), the Audio only from the OPPO is designed to go into your legacy AVR while the Main HDMI output (audio + video) is designed to hook up with your 4K (or 3D) TV, thus bypassing your non-compliant legacy AVR. In fact, I had my behemoth (weight-wise) older Onkyo AVR hooked up that way with the OPPO before I replaced it with the Marantz SR7012. However, for my present use (audio streaming from a music server), I want to use the Audio Only HDMI out from my OPPO to go into the Marantz at the same time the OPPO Main HDMI output is hooked-up with the Marantz (used as two different sources, of course) - that's when I get the "No audio output at all" problem I've run into. I will do some more experimenting, however, and check back.

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Thanks JD for the response. So you're implying that if this test does work with the OPPO, then my problem is a Marantz incompatibility? I will test for that, but I almost don't need to; I'm pretty sure it will work the way you've suggested.

The dual HDMI output of the OPPO was primarily designed to work that way -- if you don't have a HDMI 2.0 compliant AVR but you do have a 4K HDMI 2.0 TV (or even a 3D TV), the Audio only from the OPPO is designed to go into your legacy AVR while the Main HDMI output (audio + video) is designed to hook up with your 4K (or 3D) TV, thus bypassing your non-compliant legacy AVR. In fact, I had my behemoth (weight-wise) older Onkyo AVR hooked up that way with the OPPO before I replaced it with the Marantz SR7012. However, for my present use (audio streaming from a music server), I want to use the Audio Only HDMI out from my OPPO to go into the Marantz at the same time the OPPO Main HDMI output is hooked-up with the Marantz (used as two different sources, of course) - that's when I get the "No audio output at all" problem I've run into. I will do some more experimenting, however, and check back.

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It is by design in Oppo UDP-205 to reduce any possible circuit noise. Using HDMI Audio Only will deactivate the audio in the OPPO Main HDMI. Like you and jdsmothie mentioned, you could connect the Marantz to your TV so you could have both audio. That's the way I've done it
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It is by design in Oppo UDP-205 to reduce any possible circuit noise. Using HDMI Audio Only will deactivate the audio in the OPPO Main HDMI.
This is what I was suspecting and I will probably end-up setting the system up this way and preserving the specialized OPPO HDMI Audio Only output to my AVR in order to get the best quality audio feed for music streaming, disc playback, and cable TV viewing. Was hoping to use only one HDMI input to the TV, so I wouldn't have to switch inputs if I wanted to use the Marantz setup screen/functions, but its not a big deal in order to achieve the best audio feed. Thanks for your input, JC.

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