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My apologies. I didn't realize this site was formatted this way. Typically a forum has sub-categories to keep things organized in a logical manner. Why on earth would there be a general thread with unlimited pages for discussing all types of topics?
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My apologies. I didn't realize this site was formatted this way. Typically a forum has sub-categories to keep things organized in a logical manner. Why on earth would there be a general thread with unlimited pages for discussing all types of topics?
I suppose the idea is to have most relevant information for say a given AVR in one place. The tradeoff on a large forum is that it's ALL in one place. Usually you just ask a question about a problem you're having and hopefully someone nice can point you in the right direction. OTOH, a few people think you should read hundreds, even thousands of pages first (crazy, IMO as you have to figure most of it is unrelated to your own question). I ignore these types now much of the time and they tend to ignore me too.

OTOH, some people on here (e.g. jdsmoothie) are quite nice and helpful to those asking questions about AVRs and such.

But something like a FAQ threads on Atmos/X? Forget about it. The information is there, but often buried. I've suggested before that some of these threads need broken up at this point (the Atmos one in particular which is outrageously long and has several regulars that think you should read it all before asking a question as it's probably already been answered; good luck finding it with the search feature too), but no one seems to care. The reaction is MEH. We like it that way (shrug).

Hence, I stick mostly to a couple of threads here relevant to me and that's it or my entire day would be reading these forums.

Personally, I've found Audioholics far more friendly and much smaller and Gene (who runs it) is the man. It also has less topics, but of course therefore less information (tradeoff).

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OK, I gotta be honest, BIG brain fart. There is no issue with the unit. I went to trouble shoot this evening after watching the news. I put on a record got it started picked up the Marantz remote to select phono, I heard the telltale click of my power amp driving the main 5 channels click off. I have it triggered and the phono input was not set to trigger the amp to be on. That is why the Atmos speakers would have sound and none of the mains would. All is good except my wounded pride.
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My apologies. I didn't realize this site was formatted this way. Typically a forum has sub-categories to keep things organized in a logical manner. Why on earth would there be a general thread with unlimited pages for discussing all types of topics?
Simply because the issues discussed are common among all models therefore no reason to have a dedicated thread for each model.

Also, the title of this thread clearly indicates what models are being discussed.
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Umm, evidently my thread got hijacked. This discussion was about assigning inputs on an SR5012 receiver.
It may seem like it, but the thread that you started last week was not hijacked, it was merged into the official owner's thread for 2017 Marantz receivers.
I believe that the mods will do this to try and keep all relevant discussions in the same location.
This is probably what led to your confusion.
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OK, I gotta be honest, BIG brain fart. There is no issue with the unit. I went to trouble shoot this evening after watching the news. I put on a record got it started picked up the Marantz remote to select phono, I heard the telltale click of my power amp driving the main 5 channels click off. I have it triggered and the phono input was not set to trigger the amp to be on. That is why the Atmos speakers would have sound and none of the mains would. All is good except my wounded pride.


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Hello,

Can I add external audio to any Hdmi input in the SR6012?

I want to combine the hdmi audio with RCA input audio. Its possible?

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3. It seems as if the SR7012 blew the outdoor rock speaker I connected it to for Zone 2. I piped a Sonos Connect feed to Zone 2 at -20 volume, and it was a good deal quieter than it was with the previous amp I was using (previous amp was 140watts, usually running the speakers between -15 and -20). I turned the volume to -15 on the Marantz and maybe 20 or 30 seconds later the speaker made a funny noise and is now completely muffled (sounds like the audio is coming through cotton). Tried all manner of things so far, and even hooked up an identical Zone 3 rock speaker to the same amp channel on the SR7012 to see if it is the channel - but the other speaker sounded fine (running at a lower volume). Of course, now I'm afraid to power it from the SR7012 in case it blows that one as well. Has anyone seen any issues like this with their Marantz damaging a speaker? Could I have inadvertently done something wrong with the zone settings? It seemed like a very straightforward thing, so not sure what I could have done differently. The kicker is that the speaker's 5-year warranty expired last week - so I'm probably going to have to eat the cost of a new speaker, which wasn't in the budget for this project.
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3. More likely there was a short somewhere in the speaker wire.
Well, I finally got around to testing my rock speaker to see if it was the speaker or the cable that was messed up, and it is the speaker. It plays music fine, but the sound is muffled, as if one of the tweeters isn't working or something. I also seem to have discovered the cause - after I was done moving it around for testing, I realized that the supposedly waterproof speaker is actually full of water. Obviously some sort of leak occurred in the speaker and it took on water internally, which then led to some sort of short or blown driver when I played a signal to it through the Marantz (or it just sounds muffled because the speaker's under water ). I feel better knowing that this wasn't an issue with the Marantz - and now that I know that the speaker's waterproofing is compromised like this, and it's out of warranty, there's no question about needing to replace it - unless anyone knows of a way to recover from a speaker problem like this.
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AT LEAST IT CAN STILL PLAY THIS:



Seriously though, using electronics compromised by water can be dangerous and can harm your receiver.
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unless anyone knows of a way to recover from a speaker problem like this.
If it just blew a tweeter, all you need to do is change the tweeter out with a replacement. Muffled sounding usually means tweeter (frequency sweep will tell you for certain).
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Can I add external audio to any Hdmi input in the SR6012?

I want to combine the hdmi audio with RCA input audio. Its possible?

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No. You would need a 3rd party mixer for your use case.
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Seriously though, using electronics compromised by water can be dangerous and can harm your receiver.
Yeah, that's why I disconnected the speaker yesterday - I couldn't believe it when I moved it and heard water sloshing around inside. Nice video reference, by the way...
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If it just blew a tweeter, all you need to do is change the tweeter out with a replacement. Muffled sounding usually means tweeter (frequency sweep will tell you for certain).
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but the trick would be to also figure out where the speaker took on water - no sense replacing the tweeter if water can keep getting inside of it. May just turn out to be a convenient excuse to get a new outdoor speaker...
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but the trick would be to also figure out where the speaker took on water - no sense replacing the tweeter if water can keep getting inside of it. May just turn out to be a convenient excuse to get a new outdoor speaker...
I guess you could submerge it in a tub of water or something and open it up and look for where signs of water.

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Hi guys,
I am running a 7.2.2 system with a Marantz 7012. Been thinking on adding two more atmos but that means I am going to need an amp correct?? I know my receiver does 9 channels or 11 channels with the amp. What amp would you guys recommend for running the two atmos or is there any other way to run them?? Thank you in advance!!
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Hi guys,
I am running a 7.2.2 system with a Marantz 7012. Been thinking on adding two more atmos but that means I am going to need an amp correct?? I know my receiver does 9 channels or 11 channels with the amp. What amp would you guys recommend for running the two atmos or is there any other way to run them?? Thank you in advance!!
Correct. You need at least a 2CH external amp to expand from 9CH --> 11CH. You can use an old AVR that was replaced or the most popular recommendation if purchasing new is the AudioSource Amp100VS (50W). Alternatively, if you want to spend more money, you can purchase a more robust (ie. 250W+) amp to power the Front L/R speakers instead letting the AVR power the remaining speakers including the 2 additional Atmos.
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Correct. You need at least a 2CH external amp to expand from 9CH --> 11CH. You can use an old AVR that was replaced or the most popular recommendation if purchasing new is the AudioSource Amp100VS (50W). Alternatively, if you want to spend more money, you can purchase a more robust (ie. 250W+) amp to power the Front L/R speakers instead letting the AVR power the remaining speakers including the 2 additional Atmos.
Thank you @jdsmoothie ,
I will check the Audio Source Amp right now, but let's just say that I lie again to my wife on needing something for the house which amp would you recommend for the three fronts?? Forgot to mention, without breaking the bank that is

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Thank you @jdsmoothie ,
I will check the Audio Source Amp right now, but let's just say that I lie again to my wife on needing something for the house which amp would you recommend for the three fronts?? Forgot to mention, without breaking the bank that is
If you want a 50W/Channel amp at half the price of the Audiosource and it's a space saver with more than enough power to drive a set of Atmos speakers (works great with my PSB B15 surrounds #2 speakers) I recommend the SMSL SA50.
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I will check the Audio Source Amp right now, but let's just say that I lie again to my wife on needing something for the house which amp would you recommend for the three fronts?? Forgot to mention, without breaking the bank that is
Depends on your bank .. but one choice would be the Emotiva XPA-3.
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Thank you JD, I was afraid you would come back with the Emotiva
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If you want a 50W/Channel amp at half the price of the Audiosource and it's a space saver with more than enough power to drive a set of Atmos speakers (works great with my PSB B15 surrounds #2 speakers) I recommend the SMSL SA50.
Thank you, I will check it out!!
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Depends on your bank .. but one choice would be the Emotiva XPA-3.
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In reference to the Emotiva.

Once it is connected to the Pre-Amp outputs of the AVR do I run Audyssey the same way as I did before adding the Amplifier?

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In reference to the Emotiva.

Once it is connected to the Pre-Amp outputs of the AVR do I run Audyssey the same way as I did before adding the Amplifier?

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I've got a question about air play quality thru the Marantz SR6012.
I'm wondering what is the best quality...I can't seem to tell much difference.
I have a Mac-Mini with a lot of Apple lossless rips from my CD's and some
One hit wonders that I downloaded from iTunes.

So regarding air play..
1) I can AirPlay directly from the Mac to the Marantz via Heos
2) I can AirPlay from the Mac via my Apple TV 4th generation into the Marantz.
3) I can AirPlay from a 5th generation my iPod to the Marantz.

This is for casual listening... I use my HK DMC1000 for critical listening.

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I've got a question about air play quality thru the Marantz SR6012.
I'm wondering what is the best quality...I can't seem to tell much difference.
I have a Mac-Mini with a lot of Apple lossless rips from my CD's and some
One hit wonders that I downloaded from iTunes.

So regarding air play..
1) I can AirPlay directly from the Mac to the Marantz via Heos
2) I can AirPlay from the Mac via my Apple TV 4th generation into the Marantz.
3) I can AirPlay from a 5th generation my iPod to the Marantz.

This is for casual listening... I use my HK DMC1000 for critical listening.

Thanks!
Can't you tell? It's not obvious?

Then I wouldn't worry about it.

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Can't you tell? It's not obvious?

Then I wouldn't worry about it.

Well, that was what I said in the 2nd sentence

I'm not worried about it, just curious from a technical
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Well, that was what I said in the 2nd sentence

I'm not worried about it, just curious from a technical
Point of view.
That's my point. If you can't actually hear it, what difference does it make which is more accurate in tenths of a decibel or whatever? I doubt anyone has tested them. People buy high-end DACs on tests, but I have yet to see where someone could tell a difference in a blind test. I personally can't see spending hundreds or thousands on something I know I can't hear.

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I have a UB9000 with a Marantz 7012. When playing DTS:X discs, both displays on the Marantz goes blank (the small round one and the one behind the door). Everything plays fine and sounds perfect, but the displays go out. Anyone else have this happen?

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I have a UB9000 with a Marantz 7012. When playing DTS:X discs, both displays on the Marantz goes blank (the small round one and the one behind the door). Everything plays fine and sounds perfect, but the displays go out. Anyone else have this happen?
This is by design when using the PURE DIRECT surround mode.
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This is by design when using the PURE DIRECT surround mode.

I am using PURE DIRECT but I don't necessarily need to. Is this the only sound mode that automatically switches to match the audio signal coming from the source? i.e. 2.0 5.1, 5.2.1, Atmos, DTS:X, Dolby Digital, etc.




Just found the answer to this. Is there a benefit between Pure Direct and Auto Direct?

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