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I found out that that I had to upgrade some of my HDMI cables in order to see anything on the TV after moving from my Pioneer VSX 1020 to the SR7012.

I did not upgrade my HDMI cable between the SR7012 and my TV, as my TV box started working with the old cable. I’ll have to check what grade that is.
And the HDMI cable I used for my TV box was apparently ok, as that works and is shown on my TV (HDMI from SR7012 to Tv, as described above).

I had to upgrade the HDMI cable for the Apple TV in order to see/hear anything. That works fine now.

However, I did the HDMi cable upgrade also for my Bluray box, but there I only see the menu of the Bluray box, but when I play a CD there is no audio (I didn’t have time to try with a Bluray disc). The HDMI cable is apparently the best available, so the problem is somewhere else. The settings in the Bluray box are the same as I used for my Pioneer (with the same speaker setup), so I am scratching my head here. Below what the Blueray box (LG BD390) manual says about available audio settings - does the SR7012 require some specific settings? Any help appreciated, thank you!
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On the Blu Ray player set the "Deep Color Output" to OFF.
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Marantz + Older Denon Questions

Just ordered my 6012 yesterday (deep discounts...weird it is cheaper than the 6011). Anyway, I am replacing my ~10yr old Denon AVR-990 in the process. I am a little concerned that I am going from 120 / ch to 110 (and 0.05 to 0.08 thd, but I am assuming I won't hear that), and I am floating the idea of maybe in the short term using the 990 as a power amp for the 6012, or in the longer term getting 4 speakers to go 7.1.4 atmos and using the 990 to fill in the gaps (I have HSU 5.1 + ELAC tower L/R atm). I am curious if anyone would comment on:

-- Is this a good idea, or should I forget about this and focus on getting a separate power amp down the road for quality / functionality.

-- If I do the short term idea of powering the 7.1 soley through the denon, is this an effecient use of power? Would I notice a difference power / volume wise?

-- How much of the sound color is from Marantz pre-amp vs post-amp, i.e. will I get all of the coloration from Marantz if I go pure direct with AVR

-- How much more life would I have on the AVR for this purpose?

I am also curious to know if anyone knows, besides just pure direct which will happen, if I can disable volume controls / anything else on the 990 to functionally make it a pure power amp. Thanks!
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Bluray player not working with SR7012

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On the Blu Ray player set the "Deep Color Output" to OFF.
Thank you for the suggestion, unfortunately I never managed to get the box working. Well, it was old and cheap, so I solved it by getting myself an OPPO UDP-203. OMG music sounds good now!
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Cool Airplay II

Hey guys,

I just did an iTunes and Mac OS upgrade for AirPlay II. I'm wondering if it has any impact on Marantz Receivers, particularly the XX12 series.

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Hey guys,

I just did an iTunes and Mac OS upgrade for AirPlay II. I'm wondering if it has any impact on Marantz Receivers, particularly the XX12 series.

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Sorry-dont see relevance of this to SRXX12 receivers...

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Sorry-dont see relevance of this to SRXX12 receivers...
2017 Marantz SRXX12 models will get Airplay 2 compatibility in a future firmware update. Would this update have any impact on the receiver performance? No because Airplay 2 is backwards compatible with Airplay.

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Hi guys. I have a question for those who own a 6012. In the first page of this thread it says that volume bar and info overlays is only possible with 4K/30Hz signals. I get volume bar and info overlay at 24Hz with my NR1606 so I'm pretty sure the 6012 does the same. Now, I just read and saw some pictures posted by an AVS Forum member showing his X3400H doing volume bar overlays with 4K/60Hz HDR signal so my question is: does the SR6012 do volume bar and info overlay with 4K/60Hz HDR or Dolby Vision content? Can anybody owning an ATV 4K check this for me, please? I'm waiting on the SR6013 only because it's suppose to do volume bar and info overlay at 4K/60Hz but if the 6012 can do it as well, then I'll jump on the SR6012 instead, mostly now that it can be found at discounted price. Thanks guys!!
The volume bar and info overlay works on my SR7012 @4K60.

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The volume bar and info overlay works on my SR7012 @4K60.


Me too on 6012 with at4k


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Currently researching another receiver, 95-105 watts (sorry Marantz fans, but people are recommending the Denon X3300W, or the 1-year newer X2400H).
You do realize that Demon and Marantz are from the same stable and probably feature 75% or more common internals, right?

Reviews I've read in the past suggest of the two the Marantz is slightly more "musical", but IMHO no AVR is going to be as good as a "proper stereo" for "proper stereo" listening.
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I just got a SR6012. I'm loving the sound for both music and movies. I'm not sure I'm sold on the video processing yet. I've spent some time playing with different video settings and am at the point where I think I'm just confusing myself. I'd like to try letting the signal from my Fios box to just be passed through the SR6012 untouched and let my LG OLED do all the video processing.

Can someone clue me in on the SR6012 settings I need to use to make that happen? Much appreciated.
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I just got a SR6012. I'm loving the sound for both music and movies. I'm not sure I'm sold on the video processing yet. I've spent some time playing with different video settings and am at the point where I think I'm just confusing myself. I'd like to try letting the signal from my Fios box to just be passed through the SR6012 untouched and let my LG OLED do all the video processing.

Can someone clue me in on the SR6012 settings I need to use to make that happen? Much appreciated.
First set the <i/p Scaler> setting to OFF. Next you can set <Video Conversion> to OFF as well, but then you lose the volume/info overlay on the source so majority leave this one ON.
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Add Zones to Marantz SR5012

I have a Marantz SR 5012 receiver that I use to send audio to two zones. The first zone is my great room where I have a 5.1 home theater set up. The 2nd zone is my patio where I have two outdoor speakers. I use the HEOS app to control my music in either zone. i will be putting a pool in this spring and I want to add speakers to the pool area. I know you can't add zones to the receiver, but how can I expand this system to add the pool and possibly more zones and still be able to control it with the HEOS app. I will be hard wiring the speakers in the pool area. Can this even be done? I want to retain control of my music via the app and be able to access all the streaming services as well as the music on my phone while being able to turn each zone off and on independently and control the volume.
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Cool SR5012 - No Video Output

A bad night last night. Its where your wife is warming things up for dinner and you're "warming up the tv," which means configuring things so you can sit down and have a quiet night watching something on NetFlix. I gradually realize I have NO VIDEO FROM SR5012! (TV screen saver: "No connection on INPUT. Check Source Connections......" Anyway, you know the feeling. Here're the specifics:

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-Audiio from TiVO (HDMI2)

Steps Taken
-Changed to HDMI 3.
-Changed HDMI cable from AVR to TV.
-Tried DVD player on BluRay output on AVR.
-Powered off/on-AVR, TiVO, unplugged TiVO.
-Hard Reset AVR (Power, MDAX, Source2).

This morning I'll connect TiVO and BluRay player directly to TV.

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First set the <i/p Scaler> setting to OFF. Next you can set <Video Conversion> to OFF as well, but then you lose the volume/info overlay on the source so majority leave this one ON.

Thanks for the quick response. It turns out the problem was cockpit error on my part. I had HDR turned on on the tv and when I turned that off the picture looked great.
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A bad night last night. Its where your wife is warming things up for dinner and you're "warming up the tv," which means configuring things so you can sit down and have a quiet night watching something on NetFlix. I gradually realize I have NO VIDEO FROM SR5012! (TV screen saver: "No connection on INPUT. Check Source Connections......" Anyway, you know the feeling. Here're the specifics:

Symptoms
-Audiio from TiVO (HDMI2)

Steps Taken
-Changed to HDMI 3.
-Changed HDMI cable from AVR to TV.
-Tried DVD player on BluRay output on AVR.
-Powered off/on-AVR, TiVO, unplugged TiVO.
-Hard Reset AVR (Power, MDAX, Source2).

This morning I'll connect TiVO and BluRay player directly to TV.

Any ideas?

Scott
Try every HDMI input on the AVR, generally the ones closer to the HDMI outputs work best.

To do a proper HDMI HDCP reset, power off all devices, unplug their respective power cables and HDMI cables connecting them for 10 minutes. Connect all cables. Power on the TV first, pause 5 seconds, AVR, pause 5 seconds, and lastly the source device.

Also, considering your AVR can pass 4k/HDCP 2.2 video, it's best if you are using the newer "Premium" certified HDMI cables all around.
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I have a Marantz SR 5012 receiver that I use to send audio to two zones. The first zone is my great room where I have a 5.1 home theater set up. The 2nd zone is my patio where I have two outdoor speakers. I use the HEOS app to control my music in either zone. i will be putting a pool in this spring and I want to add speakers to the pool area. I know you can't add zones to the receiver, but how can I expand this system to add the pool and possibly more zones and still be able to control it with the HEOS app. I will be hard wiring the speakers in the pool area. Can this even be done? I want to retain control of my music via the app and be able to access all the streaming services as well as the music on my phone while being able to turn each zone off and on independently and control the volume.
A couple of options to consider:
(1) Connect the Surround Back (ie. Zone 2) speaker posts to a speaker selector with both sets of outdoor speakers connected to the speaker selector. This would play the same source to both outdoor zones and still allow you to use the HEOS app.

https://www.amazon.com/SS4-Speaker-S.../dp/B002I9XKTE

(2) If the patio is covered, the HEOS 1 speaker is humidity protected (ie. also ideal for a bathroom), so add one or a few of them to the patio as their own zone(s) and connect the newly installed pool speakers to the Surround Back (ie. Zone 2) speaker posts.

Also keep in mind, you can add up to 32 HEOS speakers around the home (ie. creating 32 independent zones able to play up to 8 independent sources). Also two speakers of the same model can be configured as stereo Left/Right.
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A couple of options to consider:
(1) Connect the Surround Back (ie. Zone 2) speaker posts to a speaker selector with both sets of outdoor speakers connected to the speaker selector. This would play the same source to both outdoor zones and still allow you to use the HEOS app.

https://www.amazon.com/SS4-Speaker-S.../dp/B002I9XKTE

(2) If the patio is covered, the HEOS 1 speaker is humidity protected (ie. also ideal for a bathroom), so add one or a few of them to the patio as their own zone(s) and connect the newly installed pool speakers to the Surround Back (ie. Zone 2) speaker posts.

Also keep in mind, you can add up to 32 HEOS speakers around the home (ie. creating 32 independent zones able to play up to 8 independent sources). Also two speakers of the same model can be configured as stereo Left/Right.
So those are my only two options? We have a pair of speakers hardwired on the porch so I wouldn’t want to switch to a HEOS wireless speaker. Also I’d like the ability to run the porch speakers and pool speakers at different volumes. I’m not interest in using wireless speakers outside in any location.

I also don’t want to have to use a speaker selector. All of my equipment is in the basement and I’d like a cleaner solution. Also, the rest of the house is wired for speakers but we haven’t installed all of them yet. So I’d like ability to control multiple zones, at different volumes using my phone. Any ideas how I can achieve that?
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So those are my only two options? We have a pair of speakers hardwired on the porch so I wouldn’t want to switch to a HEOS wireless speaker. Also I’d like the ability to run the porch speakers and pool speakers at different volumes. I’m not interest in using wireless speakers outside in any location.

I also don’t want to have to use a speaker selector. All of my equipment is in the basement and I’d like a cleaner solution. Also, the rest of the house is wired for speakers but we haven’t installed all of them yet. So I’d like ability to control multiple zones, at different volumes using my phone. Any ideas how I can achieve that?
Yup. Upgrade to a higher level model with Zone 3 capability (ie. SR7012).
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So I think I screwed up. I have the 7012 and I picked up a 5 channel amp to be able to power the fronts/center/surrounds, and then use the onboard amp to power the rears and 4 dolby atmos speakers. Turns out there is no way to do this (unless I'm missing something). For running 11 speakers, you can only use a pre-out for 2 channels...could have saved myself a few hundred and just picked up a 2 channel amp instead...Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to use 5 channels in the pre-out for a 7.2.4 setup? Please tell me there is...otherwise, I guess I have some extra channels for a second zone....that'll never get used. *sigh*

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]. For running 11 speakers, you can only use a pre-out for 2 channels..
Huh? Says who? The manual says all the other preamp outs die?


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Huh? Says who? The manual says all the other preamp outs die?


When setting up the amp assign in the Marantz, it gives very limited options for an 11.1 setup. It only allows you to assign the pre-outs to either the front R/L, or the rear atmos speakers. There was no setting that allowed me to use 5 channels out of the amp and 6 channels out of the AVR.

So basically, it's either you use all of them (I'd rather not by 6 more channels of amp power), 2 of them, or use the other pre-outs for 2/3 zones. I'm really disappointed in this lack of options. I always assumed it would just recognize that channels are hooked up and play the sounds out of those channels, but nope (again, unless I'm missing something).

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When setting up the amp assign in the Marantz, it gives very limited options for an 11.1 setup. It only allows you to assign the pre-outs to either the front R/L, or the rear atmos speakers. There was no setting that allowed me to use 5 channels out of the amp and 6 channels out of the AVR.

So basically, it's either you use all of them, 2 of them, or use the other pre-outs for 2/3 zones.
You can always connect external amps to the receiver's preamp outputs. You do not have to connect speakers to the receiver's binding posts.

The receiver's "Amp Assign" settings specify how audio signals should be distributed audio among the receiver's internal amplifiers. They do not turn the receiver's preamp outputs off or on. You don't have to connect anything to the receiver's binding posts (i.e. to its internal amps). Instead, you can connect external amplifiers to any of the preamp outputs, which are always "hot."

While while it is true that receivers don't provide any way to actually turn off their internal amps, when speakers are not connected to their amps' binding posts, the receiver's internal amps draw only a minimal amount of power.

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I can't say for sure but I'm thinking the manual fails to show that the base, 5.1 pre-outs work perpetually under all scenarios even though they don't explicitly show setups using them. What changes is how zone outs and Atmos configurations work. These are, as they call it, "assignable" but not all of them can be used simultaneously.

You could run your own test by selecting the configuration you want and then seeing if the preamp outs in question still put out a signal. You could do this before having to wire up the whole shebang.
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I can't say for sure but I'm thinking the manual fails to show that the base, 5.1 pre-outs work perpetually under all scenarios even though they don't explicitly show setups using them. What changes is how zone outs and Atmos configurations work. These are, as they call it, "assignable" but not all of them can be used simultaneously.

You could run your own test by selecting the configuration you want and then seeing if the preamp outs in question still put out a signal. You could do this before having to wire up the whole shebang.
I'm missing some cable to be able to hook up all of the speakers, but when I tried it yesterday with what I have, no sound would come out of the front channels. I'll give it a go tomorrow after I get all of the speakers hooked up and report back. It seems to me that the Marantz is being very particular about how the channels are assigned.

What I did yesterday was the fronts/center/surround using the pre-outs, and then front atmos/rears from the AVR. When I tried to run Audyssey, no sound came out.

But yeah, I'll give it a go tomorrow when I actually have all of the speakers hooked up and see what happens.

Is someone in here using the setup I described above? Is there some setting that I'm missing somewhere to be able to do this?

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I'm missing some cable to be able to hook up all of the speakers, but when I tried it yesterday with what I have, no sound would come out of the front channels.
A common reason why front speakers mysteriously go dead on some receivers is the consumer has accidentally selected "Speakers B" on the front panel. Just a heads up.
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So I think I screwed up. I have the 7012 and I picked up a 5 channel amp to be able to power the fronts/center/surrounds, and then use the onboard amp to power the rears and 4 dolby atmos speakers. Turns out there is no way to do this (unless I'm missing something). For running 11 speakers, you can only use a pre-out for 2 channels...could have saved myself a few hundred and just picked up a 2 channel amp instead...Is there a setting I'm missing to be able to use 5 channels in the pre-out for a 7.2.4 setup? Please tell me there is...otherwise, I guess I have some extra channels for a second zone....that'll never get used. *sigh*

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Nope. No screw up.

Both the SR6012 and SR7012 are able to "operate" up to 11 speakers (in the main zone) with a "minimum" of a 2CH external amp powering either the Front L/R or Height 2 L/R speakers. The AMP ASSIGN "Pre-Out" setting simply indicates which 2 speakers are being powered to expand the AVR from 9CH --> 11CH. Beyond that you can externally power as many additional speakers as you desire all the way up to all 11 if you choose effectively turning the AVR into a pre/pro.
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I can't find any reviews or posts comparing the 7012 to the Onkyo rz1100. Can anyone offer any comments on that comparison? I have a rz1100 that is faulty and being returned. The shop doesn't have any more rz1100's to replace mine, but has the 7012 and 8012.

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Try every HDMI input on the AVR, generally the ones closer to the HDMI outputs work best.

To do a proper HDMI HDCP reset, power off all devices, unplug their respective power cables and HDMI cables connecting them for 10 minutes. Connect all cables. Power on the TV first, pause 5 seconds, AVR, pause 5 seconds, and lastly the source device.

Also, considering your AVR can pass 4k/HDCP 2.2 video, it's best if you are using the newer "Premium" certified HDMI cables all around.
Thanks JD. I have shipped the unit back to the west coast service facility in Huntington Beach. I'll report the outcome.

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So those are my only two options? We have a pair of speakers hardwired on the porch so I wouldn’t want to switch to a HEOS wireless speaker. Also I’d like the ability to run the porch speakers and pool speakers at different volumes. I’m not interest in using wireless speakers outside in any location.

I also don’t want to have to use a speaker selector. All of my equipment is in the basement and I’d like a cleaner solution. Also, the rest of the house is wired for speakers but we haven’t installed all of them yet. So I’d like ability to control multiple zones, at different volumes using my phone. Any ideas how I can achieve that?
I also wanted to do this (hard-wired patio speakers). After much research, help from JD and effort, I realized that with the 5012, I could NOT operate both pairs (inside and outside) simultenously! That I had to move up to the 6012 for that! Obviously I wanted to play the same music at the same time in both locations. Wow-who looks for that when making a purchasing decision? So, I ended up using HEOS/wireless to a Bose SoundLink III. Works great. Wish I would have known that BEFORE I ran the wire!
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