Originally Posted by Joshua Chmiel
My Onkyo was only 7 channel hence the reason for the change. I couldn't resist the temptation of the deal I got on the Marantz. No room calibration I would give the better sounding edge to the Onkyo. Like I said earlier though that could just be it not having to drive 9 speakers with basically the same power output. Post room correction the Marantz wins hand down. The number read out says I have to turn the Marantz up louder to be at a sound level I like but it handles it flawlessly so far, so I'm a OK with it. Onkyo always wanted to set my towers and surrounds at 250Hz crossover and levels 0. The Marantz set them up at 40Hz crossover and -12 in levels. Specs on my speakers (source cnet) say fronts down to 35Hz 92db sensitivity, surrounds 45Hz and 89db. It set my center at 80Hz and specs say 75Hz 91db. So I would say my JBL specs are pretty accurate and the Marantz measured them correctly. Top Channel are all the same make and model. One pair I have owned for 18 years, the other pair was an ebay find of them still new still wrapped in factory plastic. Old pair it set crossover at 120Hz and new pair at 100Hz. Specs say 55Hz and 86db. I don't know if the lower sensitivity is the issue or if Yamaha just lied on their specs.
Originally Posted by Joshua Chmiel
Alright I got my 6012 today. I upgraded from a Onkyo TX-RZ720. Here are my initial impressions after setting up, running Audysy,playing some music, select bass scenes, and Atmos demos.
I was reminded no price talk,but will say if I MSRP, I would have been disappointed.
Remote on the Marantz is a much nicer one than what you get with the Onkyo.
5.1.4 is truly better than 5.1.2
I like what Audysy did much much more than anything I was able to accomplish with AccuEQ
Menus, maybe because I was used to the Onkyo, but it was simpler in style but responded quicker and seemed better than the Marantz.
Sound mode switching is far quicker with the Onkyo with more selections
I haven't downloaded the apps yet but the Onkyo has options to create custom EQs and save up to 3 presets that you can simply change to on a whim and the music apps like Pandora, Spotify, Tidal are built in.
It seems I have turn up louder (units display numbers) than my Onkyo for same sound level. This probably stems from both being rated at 110/ch with 2ch driven and the Onkyo didn't have to drive two extra speakers.
The Marantz runs hotter than the Onkyo, maybe because I have turn up louder.
Great info, thanks for this!
My current AVR is an Onkyo TX-RZ720 as well and with the current sweet deals going on I was going back and forth between the SR6012 or the X4400H so I can take advantage of XT32 (especially for dual subs) since I’m not too impressed with AccuEQ and I also want to move up to 5.1.4 from 5.1.2 as well as get something a bit more future proof or expandable.
I think I was leaning more towards to the SR6012 for better 2.0 for music but from reading tons of info I think I might be better with the X4400H for the same price since it’s sister is the SR7012 and I think I can live without HDAM plus I don’t think the SR7012’s will come down close to these prices.
Your feedback on the improvements that Audyssey made over AccuEQ is what is really exciting me about pulling the trigger on either of these 2 since your coming from the same AVR as me, good apples to apples.
I think I might grab the Audyssey app as well to further tweak things, read some decent feedback on the improvements it was able to make. Seemed like the only real complaint was that D+M charges $20 for it.
I already have an AC Infinity fan, that thing works awesome so not too worried about the heat from either unit
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