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Please help I'm being obtuse

Sorry for what has probably been asked 1000 times, but it is so difficult to get just a simple answer here sometimes (although everyone here is really really helpful ).

OK--jumping into 4k but need to replace my receiver which handles all video and audio-

Simply-

I assume I need 4k pass through which requires HDMI 2.2. Is that correct?

Does this also pass through all HDR formats?

In the $500 range--what should I look for (brand recommendation would be appreciated--I have a Pioneer setup right now)

Any help would be appreciated.

Larry
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That would be HDCP 2.2 not HDMI 2.2 that would be needed, but although most 2016 models are able to pass HDR10, none are currently able to pass Dolby Vision or HLG (although many models are scheduled to get the DV+HLG firmware update later this year to include Denon and Marantz). The new 2017 Denon and Marantz models are shipping with Dolby Vision on board and the HLG update to be released later this year for them as well. For you budget, you may want to consider the 2016 Denon X2300W currently on clearance due to the newer 2017 X2400H already being released.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X23.../dp/B01E69LWWA
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To clarify your buying options ... are you in the US? Are you a member at any warehouse clubs (e.g. Costco)? Are you looking for new, or would you take a 2016 model at a discount? Do you NEED Dolby Vision (does your TV support it, or will you buy a TV that supports it)?

Are there any audio considerations, e.g. do you have a 5.1, 7.1, or Atmos speakers installed, or on the shipping list?

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To clarify your buying options ... are you in the US? Are you a member at any warehouse clubs (e.g. Costco)? Are you looking for new, or would you take a 2016 model at a discount? Do you NEED Dolby Vision (does your TV support it, or will you buy a TV that supports it)?

Are there any audio considerations, e.g. do you have a 5.1, 7.1, or Atmos speakers installed, or on the shipping list?
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My present plan is to purchase a C& LG OLED. This supports Dolby Vision-

ATMOS is not a requirement --smallish room--5.1 is the best I can have--but it sounds great anyway

No Costco nearby but there is a Sams.

Definately in the US.

Thanks-
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Not an expert but dolby vision is another version of HDR ( high dynamic range) but at a higher bit rate. The 2017 version of the LG OLED's can handle both HDR-10 and Dolby vision (also, possibly the 2016 versions) . Don't know of an Blu Rays that feature Dolby Vision as of yet.

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Sorry for what has probably been asked 1000 times, but it is so difficult to get just a simple answer here sometimes (although everyone here is really really helpful ).

OK--jumping into 4k but need to replace my receiver which handles all video and audio-

Simply-

I assume I need 4k pass through which requires HDMI 2.2. Is that correct?

Does this also pass through all HDR formats?

In the $500 range--what should I look for (brand recommendation would be appreciated--I have a Pioneer setup right now)

Any help would be appreciated.

Larry
I just replaced my old Onkyo receiver with a Onkyo TX-RZ610. It has almost every feature needed for the new 4K future.
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Not an expert but dolby vision is another version of HDR ( high dynamic range) but at a higher bit rate. The 2017 version of the LG OLED's can handle both HDR-10 and Dolby vision (also, possibly the 2016 versions) . Don't know of an Blu Rays that feature Dolby Vision as of yet.

good luck
Dolby Vision supports 12 bit color vs 10 bit for HDR10, but it's not clear whether any DV material will be mastered at that. (Requires 2^6 = 64X as much data, and no current displays are deeper than 10 bits.) I doubt that DV UHD BluRays will require a higher bit rate than HDR10. DV's main virtue is dynamic metadata (varies scene by scene, or even frame by frame), which may give a better "mapping" of tones into real displays than for HDR10 (fixed metadata).

A few UHD BluRays have just come out that support DV. There's an industry standard that requires UHD BluRays to include HDR10, so there are no worries about buying a UHD disk that can't play in HDR on a monitor that doesn't do DV.

My Samsung KS800 does not, and will never, support DV, so my interest is academic at this time.

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