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Thanks for your help! So, one sub I wouldn’t need this but for duels it would help if they aren’t equidistant.

Also would the basic one be ok or the HD for the timing of Duel subs in a smaller room...?
It’s worth reading this short PPT presentation. If you place the subs we’ll, you don’t need to worry much about time alignment. They got these results with multiple subs fed a single mononsignal.

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I have two profiles..one projector which is at the back of the room and one OLEDs which is on the side, how would i work the dual subs?
Forget the displays. How many speaker setups do you have? Presumably there is only one seat between the left and right speakers. Optimize for that seat.
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Got all of the 7.1 hookups on the back wired correctly and working, I started adding the 4 atmos modules from the preamp outs and realized that I had two issues:

1. RCA male to XLR female cords, need male to male - ordered and will be here Friday

2. I am short two channels of amplification. I have a free Inuke1000 that I can use for the front atmos but nothing for the back.

What are the rest of you using for external amplification for the other 4 channels? Should I order another Inuke or should I pick up some 4 channel amp to use for all of the Atmos modules?

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Got all of the 7.1 hookups on the back wired correctly and working, I started adding the 4 atmos modules from the preamp outs and realized that I had two issues:

1. RCA male to XLR female cords, need male to male - ordered and will be here Friday

2. I am short two channels of amplification. I have a free Inuke1000 that I can use for the front atmos but nothing for the back.

What are the rest of you using for external amplification for the other 4 channels? Should I order another Inuke or should I pick up some 4 channel amp to use for all of the Atmos modules?
Hello from Lincoln,

I am using these: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post57201526
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So, in a living room environment, which has pj seats at the back of the room and oled on the side. You would not bother doing dirac for the side seats?
Sorry but I just don't understand your point. If you have a PJ setup then I assume the left and right speakers are to the left and right of the screen, with the center speaker in the middle and the surround speakers to the left and right sides of MLP. If you also have a TV on the side wall, the speakers will be in entirely the wrong positions (unless you move the speakers around each time you want to watch the TV, which I doubt). Dirac Live can't help in this case.
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Sorry but I just don't understand your point. If you have a PJ setup then I assume the left and right speakers are to the left and right of the screen, with the center speaker in the middle and the surround speakers to the left and right sides of MLP. If you also have a TV on the side wall, the speakers will be in entirely the wrong positions (unless you move the speakers around each time you want to watch the TV, which I doubt). Dirac Live can't help in this case.
Apologies....to watch the projector we sit at the back of the room. The screen comes in front of the oled.....make sense?
We have a sofa on the side wall to watch oled...hence two positions?
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Ignore the seating position where you are not in front of and between the front left and right speaker.
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Ignore the seating position where you are not in front of and between the front left and right speaker.
Thank you for that, most helpful.
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Does anyone know if there is a difference hooking up the SUBW output on the 758 to the LFE input on a subwoofer versus the one of the RCA inputs on a sub? I believe most LFE inputs on subwoofers disregard higher frequencies, but with Dirac, won't it only send low frequencies to the sub anyway? I have a new sub arriving today and want to make sure I'm wiring it up the best way.
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Does anyone know if there is a difference hooking up the SUBW output on the 758 to the LFE input on a subwoofer versus the one of the RCA inputs on a sub? I believe most LFE inputs on subwoofers disregard higher frequencies, but with Dirac, won't it only send low frequencies to the sub anyway? I have a new sub arriving today and want to make sure I'm wiring it up the best way.

What sub do you have? the LFE input likely ignores whatever crossover is set on the subwoofer, but that should be set to max anyway, and let the AVR handle all frequency dividing duties
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What sub do you have? the LFE input likely ignores whatever crossover is set on the subwoofer, but that should be set to max anyway, and let the AVR handle all frequency dividing duties
I am replacing an Audioengine S8 with a Rythmik L12. Both subs have an LFE input in addition to RCA. Are you thinking if I set the crossover to max anyway, there shouldn't be any difference between using one of the RCA inputs or the LFE?
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I am replacing an Audioengine S8 with a Rythmik L12. Both subs have an LFE input in addition to RCA. Are you thinking if I set the crossover to max anyway, there shouldn't be any difference between using one of the RCA inputs or the LFE?

Well, like the L12 userguide says: "When using LFE IN, phase control and crossover control have no function."
So yeah, just use the LFE input, should be fine
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Well, like the L12 userguide says: "When using LFE IN, phase control and crossover control have no function."
So yeah, just use the LFE input, should be fine
Sorry, I should have checked the L12 quick guide first. I'll use the LFE input.
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Hello all. I’m considering this receiver over a denon x3300 in a new, small build I’m doing. Anyone owned both and care to answer to pro’s and con’s? So far I’m seeing a lack of hdmi inputs and lack of dts:x as cons for the nad now. Is Dirac notably better than audyssey xt32?


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Hello all. I’m considering this receiver over a denon x3300 in a new, small build I’m doing. Anyone owned both and care to answer to pro’s and con’s? So far I’m seeing a lack of hdmi inputs and lack of dts:x as cons for the nad now. Is Dirac notably better than audyssey xt32?

Yes, Dirac is miles better than Audyssey


Lack of HDMI ports can be solved with an HDMI switch, or the T777v3


DTS:X is "coming soon"
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Yes, Dirac is miles better than Audyssey


Lack of HDMI ports can be solved with an HDMI switch, or the T777v3


DTS:X is "coming soon"


Thanks for the reply! While being aware of what thread I’m in, would most people consider this nad to be an upgrade in sound quality over the mid range denon’s? (X3300,3400,3500 etc). I’m happy with my x3300 but I would like to be able to run 5.1.4 over my current 5.1.2. I’m also curious as to what other room corrections sound like as I’ve only used denon the last ~4 receiver upgrades.


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Thanks for the reply! While being aware of what thread I’m in, would most people consider this nad to be an upgrade in sound quality over the mid range denon’s? (X3300,3400,3500 etc). I’m happy with my x3300 but I would like to be able to run 5.1.4 over my current 5.1.2. I’m also curious as to what other room corrections sound like as I’ve only used denon the last ~4 receiver upgrades.

The answer is obviously "yes" but no one can prove that to you, except you. A demo is your best course of action here
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How stable is the Dirac Live and NAD 758 v3 itself? My dealer didn't want to recommend me getting this as it has buggy issues like handshakes and setup issues.

How true is this? I wanted to try Dirac Live coming from audyssey XT32
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Thanks for the reply! While being aware of what thread I’m in, would most people consider this nad to be an upgrade in sound quality over the mid range denon’s? (X3300,3400,3500 etc). I’m happy with my x3300 but I would like to be able to run 5.1.4 over my current 5.1.2. I’m also curious as to what other room corrections sound like as I’ve only used denon the last ~4 receiver upgrades.


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I replaced my Denon 4300 with the Nad and am much happier. I was never really happy with the xt32. Dirac sounds very different to xt32 and I much prefer it.
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Does anyone know if there is a difference hooking up the SUBW output on the 758 to the LFE input on a subwoofer versus the one of the RCA inputs on a sub? I believe most LFE inputs on subwoofers disregard higher frequencies, but with Dirac, won't it only send low frequencies to the sub anyway? I have a new sub arriving today and want to make sure I'm wiring it up the best way.
From the AVR side, it doesn't know and it won't matter. Bass management will send the right signals, as long as you calibrate it one way and don't change how you have it plugged in.

Now, on the sub side, it could matter in that the LFE input could have higher bandwidth - for example, my subs extend to 200Hz with the LFE input and only 90Hz with line-in. I use line-in because it provides a quicker rolloff and that results in much cleaner sound in my system.

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Before I pull the trigger does it have dolby vision?

Really contemplating between this or a Marantz SR7012
Currently have a 5.2.4 setup.

If I ever get this receiver, should I just split the sub preout going to my minidsp 2x4 hd?
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Before I pull the trigger does it have dolby vision?

Really contemplating between this or a Marantz SR7012
Currently have a 5.2.4 setup.

If I ever get this receiver, should I just split the sub preout going to my minidsp 2x4 hd?

Yup, it has Dolby Vision


Note you'll need a stereo amp to power those other two atmos speakers


Split as in, you need input 1 and 2 to have the signal? Yeah that's what I do
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Yup, it has Dolby Vision


Note you'll need a stereo amp to power those other two atmos speakers


Split as in, you need input 1 and 2 to have the signal? Yeah that's what I do
I do want to split it in for input 1 and 2 for the Minidsp 2x4 HD.

I do have an emotiva xpa 5. The last two receivers that I had are a denon x3500h and currently a Marantz SR6012.

My Marantz currently has probably a bad cap or board that makes all of my speakers tweeter hiss like crazy. It is pretty audbile even while watching a movie. It is just constant. Doesn't change when you lower or make the volume higher.

Unfortunately, the dealer doesn't have the SR6012 instock anymore. So, I am choosing between the NAD T 758 v3 and Marantz SR7012.


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I do have an emotive xpa 5. The last two receivers that I had are a denon x3500h and currently a Marantz SR6012.

My Marantz currently has probably a bad cap or board that makes all of my speakers tweeter hiss like crazy. It is pretty audbile even while watching a movie. It is just constant. Doesn't change when you lower or make the volume higher.

Unfortunately, the dealer doesn't have the SR6012 instock anymore. So, I am choosing between the NAD T 758 v3 and Marantz SR7012.

Ah ok cool, I'd use the Emotiva to power the LCR + 2 atmos speakers, and the AVR to power the remaining surrounds + atmos


The NAD would be my choice, Dirac is just pure magic
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Ah ok cool, I'd use the Emotiva to power the LCR + 2 atmos speakers, and the AVR to power the remaining surrounds + atmos


The NAD would be my choice, Dirac is just pure magic
But NAD doesn't have any issues like software, handshakes or bugs? I am just a afraid because the dealer was hesitant to recommend it to me about certain issues that he didn't clarify what it is.
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But NAD doesn't have any issues like software, handshakes or bugs? I am just a afraid because the dealer was hesitant to recommend it to me about certain issues that he didn't clarify what it is.

I can't say I've encountered any handshake issues myself. Everyday operation is relatively flawless to be honest. Maybe I'm lucky? Most of the problems the NAD had at the beginning of its life have been ironed out, just waiting for DTS:X to arrive
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I can't say I've encountered any handshake issues myself. Everyday operation is relatively flawless to be honest. Maybe I'm lucky? Most of the problems the NAD had at the beginning of its life have been ironed out, just waiting for DTS:X to arrive
I guess I will give it a try then. DTS:X will be updated via firmware?
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I guess I will give it a try then. DTS:X will be updated via firmware?

Yup, a simple software update. Last I heard it was in DTS's hands awaiting certification, but this could take some time (if we learned anything from how long it took for them to certify Arcam's firmware)
NAD were hoping for a Q4 2018 release but as you might have guessed they didn't make that target, but that's not entirely their fault...
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Yup, a simple software update. Last I heard it was in DTS's hands awaiting certification, but this could take some time (if we learned anything from how long it took for them to certify Arcam's firmware)
NAD were hoping for a Q4 2018 release but as you might have guessed they didn't make that target, but that's not entirely their fault...
Thanks! One more thing. Is it better to use the NAD mic or UMIK-1 from minidsp?
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thanks! One more thing. Is it better to use the nad mic or umik-1 from minidsp?
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