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Turn off the receiver, disconnect the USB Hub from usb, download and unzip the firmware file, format the usb flash in fat32, copy the firmware file to usb, connect the usb flash to the receiver and turn it on.
Thanks for quick help. Unfortunately I am still stuck at 99% DSP upgrade. I am now trying an older Firmware but I think I have to return the device :-/

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Thanks for quick help. Unfortunately I am still stuck at 99% DSP upgrade. I am now trying an older Firmware but I think I have to return the device :-/

Probably just needs updating via serial, which you dealer should be able to do
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The dealer is just some kind of online seller with a very small office and no local support. He has just opened a support ticket and I am asked to bring the receiver back tomorrow. I will be notified once the new device has been delivered.

What a great start with NAD

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Thanks for quick help. Unfortunately I am still stuck at 99% DSP upgrade. I am now trying an older Firmware but I think I have to return the device :-/
Do not rush to return the receiver, my first update via Wi-Fi also stopped at 99% DSP upgrade and so it was two days, and on the third day it was updated without any problems.
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Do not rush to return the receiver, my first update via Wi-Fi also stopped at 99% DSP upgrade and so it was two days, and on the third day it was updated without any problems.
A busy update server might be the root cause but I also tried the USB update and also this, and an older version, got stuck at 99%. Just again attached my old Denon and the NAD is already packed up.

Don't want to waste two more days and so I decided to return the unit. Next time I will just do the USB update to be on the safe side.

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Do not rush to return the receiver, my first update via Wi-Fi also stopped at 99% DSP upgrade and so it was two days, and on the third day it was updated without any problems.

My first upgrade took a long long time for it to complete, I forget how long exactly though. I had got everything unboxed connected and tested. After that point I wanted to try out the BluOS and Dirac so I did the update and it took so long I thought I bricked it. I was kicking myself but I just let it run and it finally finished. If I had to guess it took over an hour to apply. How long have you waiting for it to get through that last 99%?
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My first upgrade took a long long time for it to complete, I forget how long exactly though. I had got everything unboxed connected and tested. After that point I wanted to try out the BluOS and Dirac so I did the update and it took so long I thought I bricked it. I was kicking myself but I just let it run and it finally finished. If I had to guess it took over an hour to apply. How long have you waiting for it to get through that last 99%?
Well, the DSP upgrade is step 4 or 5 out of 9. The DSP upgrade takes approx. one second for each percentage. Then I waited like 10 Minutes at 99% and nothing happened. Is this last % really taking longer?!?

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My first upgrade took a long long time for it to complete, I forget how long exactly though. I had got everything unboxed connected and tested. After that point I wanted to try out the BluOS and Dirac so I did the update and it took so long I thought I bricked it. I was kicking myself but I just let it run and it finally finished. If I had to guess it took over an hour to apply. How long have you waiting for it to get through that last 99%?
Usually, the whole update process lasts 20 - 30 minutes. The first time I waited about an hour, then rebooted the receiver and tried again.
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Usually, the whole update process lasts 20 - 30 minutes. The first time I waited about an hour, then rebooted the receiver and tried again.
Have you noticed that it takes very long from 99% to 100% during DSP upgrade?

I am now trying again and I will just leave the device on for an hour or so. Tomorrow I will bring it back to the dealer in case it still doesn't work.

Edit: Ok, again stuck at 99%. I will now wait for an hour or so.

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Have you noticed that it takes very long from 99% to 100% during DSP upgrade?

I am now trying again and I will just leave the device on for an hour or so. Tomorrow I will bring it back to the dealer in case it still doesn't work.
I don’t remember exactly now, but the transition from 99% to 100% did not exceed 1 minute.
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Do not rush to return the receiver, my first update via Wi-Fi also stopped at 99% DSP upgrade and so it was two days, and on the third day it was updated without any problems.

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I don’t remember exactly now, but the transition from 99% to 100% did not exceed 1 minute.

Sorry buddy, but you are not exactly being helpful here.....
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I just had a chat with a very nice guy from NAD called Bob. He told me to plug the USB drive directly into the Receiver and not the dongle. If that doesn't work I would have to upgrade via RS232. Can anybody tell me how to do it? I do not have such a cable so I would buy one. Is a USB to RS232 cable okay? And what would I have to do once I have it?

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I just had a chat with a very nice guy from NAD called Bob. He told me to plug the USB drive directly into the Receiver and not the dongle. If that doesn't work I would have to upgrade via RS232. Can anybody tell me how to do it? I do not have such a cable so I would buy one. Is a USB to RS232 cable okay? And what would I have to do once I have it?

Yeah USB to Serial is what you want, Bob should be able to guide you through the process (he'll send you some RS232 specific files)
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Yeah USB to Serial is what you want, Bob should be able to guide you through the process (he'll send you some RS232 specific files)
Hmmm, he told me that an NAD dealer with such a cable could do the update for me. He did not offer to send some files over. Can't I download the files from the web somewhere?

Edit: In the download section of the 758 I can download an EXE file. Is that related to the RS232 updating?

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Hmmm, he told me that an NAD dealer with such a cable could do the update for me. He did not offer to send some files over. Can't I download the files from the web somewhere?

Edit: In the download section of the 758 I can download an EXE file. Is that related to the RS232 updating?
Yes. The video on this page shows the process of firmware update via USB to RS232 cable: https://nadelectronics.com/mdc-4k-video-upgrade/
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Alright, now I only need a USB to RS232 cable .

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New subs seem anemic

I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level. I’m trying to diagnose to see if there is something not set up properly with the NaD 758 connections. I have the rca going from the nad sub pre out and into the PC4000 LFE input. I have the receivers crossovers at 80 for the three speakers attached (towers and center). I have the speakers set to small and sub turned on. The Subs volume is -10 which is pretty high. I have to play the receiver pretty loud to notice the bass (-25 or louder). The sub is set in standard mode. While I hear the bass it isn’t very loud unless I go into the tone controls in the NAD and put the bass on about 6DB or higher (up from 0). Is this right to raise this level or is this a improper boost and not recommended? Listening to BluOS tidal mostly but have also watched Netflix through Apple TV.

Anything I’m missing from receiver side?

Haven’t run Dirac yet but not sure that should affect amount of bass I’m feeling/hearing

Thanks in advance!

Anything I’m missing? I just feel I should hear more from a 2.5 grand ported sub...

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Does anyone know if NAD are working on a Dirac enabled T758/T777 successor in a form factor with a large touch screen?



Like the new M10, but in a 7.1.4 setting? I've been thinking about buying new gear for a while now, but the small 1990s styled screen of the current models is holding me back a bit. It doesn't help that you'd need a phone or tablet to control BluOS. I currently use an antiquated Logitech Squeezebox Touch, and its touch screen makes it a lot faster to change my radio channel or Spotify track compared to having to unlock my phone and load the app - or give a tablet to my guests if they want to change something. I really hope NAD can produce something like that in 2019.



I know the pre-pro M17 has a touch screen, but I believe it's really limited compared to the M10, and it's also a bit too expensive for my taste.
I dont think you will see something like that since these devices are geared around the assumption you have a screen already.

The screen on the M10 allows you to do normal functions like Play/Pause, Next Track, Volume, etc. but you cannot use it to browse music

Why not just dedicate a tablet for the job? Seems like that would be easier than having a screen on the AVR.
I agree. I think an AVR, which inherently handles video, is assumed to be used with a screen. I can see your use case, but it would add to the cost...

Also, your phone or tablet will be much more capable then the screen and the built-in functions of the AVR/Amp ever could be.
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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level.
Are these subs placed in different locations?

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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level. I’m trying to diagnose to see if there is something not set up properly with the NaD 758 connections. I have the rca going from the nad sub pre out and into the PC4000 LFE input. I have the receivers crossovers at 80 for the three speakers attached (towers and center). I have the speakers set to small and sub turned on. The Subs volume is -10 which is pretty high. I have to play the receiver pretty loud to notice the bass (-25 or louder). The sub is set in standard mode. While I hear the bass it isn’t very loud unless I go into the tone controls in the NAD and put the bass on about 6DB or higher (up from 0). Is this right to raise this level or is this a improper boost and not recommended? Listening to BluOS tidal mostly but have also watched Netflix through Apple TV.

Anything I’m missing from receiver side?

Haven’t run Dirac yet but not sure that should affect amount of bass I’m feeling/hearing

Thanks in advance!

Anything I’m missing? I just feel I should hear more from a 2.5 grand ported sub...
I've had issues with the LFE output appearing to be low (I haven't confirmed) but with a MiniDSP HD and Crown XLS2002 which has a .775v setting I was not able to have my subs even keep pace with my mains. However, connection to a MiniDSP (nonHD) or directly to the sub plate amp.

Also, tone controls only effect things above the crossover non-LFE channels. That tone control is not a great set up.
Also, others have complained about Dirac low bass output especially coming from Audessy when use DEQ.

What I do is run the LFE through something that handles the output properly (in my case the MiniDSP nonHD or direct connect) and then I boost my sub gain knobs by about 6dB and then boost Dirac by another 6dB.

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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level.
Are these subs placed in different locations?
I’m only using one at a time but have tried them both. Will use as duel eventually

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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level. I’m trying to diagnose to see if there is something not set up properly with the NaD 758 connections. I have the rca going from the nad sub pre out and into the PC4000 LFE input. I have the receivers crossovers at 80 for the three speakers attached (towers and center). I have the speakers set to small and sub turned on. The Subs volume is -10 which is pretty high. I have to play the receiver pretty loud to notice the bass (-25 or louder). The sub is set in standard mode. While I hear the bass it isn’t very loud unless I go into the tone controls in the NAD and put the bass on about 6DB or higher (up from 0). Is this right to raise this level or is this a improper boost and not recommended? Listening to BluOS tidal mostly but have also watched Netflix through Apple TV.

Anything I’m missing from receiver side?

Haven’t run Dirac yet but not sure that should affect amount of bass I’m feeling/hearing

Thanks in advance!

Anything I’m missing? I just feel I should hear more from a 2.5 grand ported sub...
I've had issues with the LFE output appearing to be low (I haven't confirmed) but with a MiniDSP HD and Crown XLS2002 which has a .775v setting I was not able to have my subs even keep pace with my mains. However, connection to a MiniDSP (nonHD) or directly to the sub plate amp.

Also, tone controls only effect things above the crossover non-LFE channels. That tone control is not a great set up.
Also, others have complained about Dirac low bass output especially coming from Audessy when use DEQ.

What I do is run the LFE through something that handles the output properly (in my case the MiniDSP nonHD or direct connect) and then I boost my sub gain knobs by about 6dB and then boost Dirac by another 6dB.
None of this is with Dirac enabled.

Are you saying that even when I set the crossover at 80 and speakers at small the OSD menu that bumps up the bass level and the speaker level bass part that can be upped BOTH only work on the towers and not the actual subwoofer??

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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level. I’m trying to diagnose to see if there is something not set up properly with the NaD 758 connections. I have the rca going from the nad sub pre out and into the PC4000 LFE input. I have the receivers crossovers at 80 for the three speakers attached (towers and center). I have the speakers set to small and sub turned on. The Subs volume is -10 which is pretty high. I have to play the receiver pretty loud to notice the bass (-25 or louder). The sub is set in standard mode. While I hear the bass it isn’t very loud unless I go into the tone controls in the NAD and put the bass on about 6DB or higher (up from 0). Is this right to raise this level or is this a improper boost and not recommended? Listening to BluOS tidal mostly but have also watched Netflix through Apple TV.

Anything I’m missing from receiver side?

Haven’t run Dirac yet but not sure that should affect amount of bass I’m feeling/hearing

Thanks in advance!

Anything I’m missing? I just feel I should hear more from a 2.5 grand ported sub...
I've had issues with the LFE output appearing to be low (I haven't confirmed) but with a MiniDSP HD and Crown XLS2002 which has a .775v setting I was not able to have my subs even keep pace with my mains. However, connection to a MiniDSP (nonHD) or directly to the sub plate amp.

Also, tone controls only effect things above the crossover non-LFE channels. That tone control is not a great set up.
Also, others have complained about Dirac low bass output especially coming from Audessy when use DEQ.

What I do is run the LFE through something that handles the output properly (in my case the MiniDSP nonHD or direct connect) and then I boost my sub gain knobs by about 6dB and then boost Dirac by another 6dB.
I bought a MiniDSP 2x4 HD-why wouldn’t that work the same or better then the original MiniDSP that you are using to boost the levels?

So, to confirm, you are saying that the only proper way for me to get proper bass amount of my PC4000 is not through the NADs speaker levels (even the sub part) or the tone controls (bass part) but instead use a MiniDSP 2x4 HD and then increase levels? What is the best way to hook that up to the NAD and sub and do I need a computer to up the levels the way you describe?

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I just got a pair of SVS PC4000 that I currently only use one at a time but have tried them both. I’m noticing that the strong subs don’t really blow me away and I fact I feel and hear the sonos sub I have a lot more at a similar listening level. I’m trying to diagnose to see if there is something not set up properly with the NaD 758 connections. I have the rca going from the nad sub pre out and into the PC4000 LFE input. I have the receivers crossovers at 80 for the three speakers attached (towers and center). I have the speakers set to small and sub turned on. The Subs volume is -10 which is pretty high. I have to play the receiver pretty loud to notice the bass (-25 or louder). The sub is set in standard mode. While I hear the bass it isn’t very loud unless I go into the tone controls in the NAD and put the bass on about 6DB or higher (up from 0). Is this right to raise this level or is this a improper boost and not recommended? Listening to BluOS tidal mostly but have also watched Netflix through Apple TV.

Anything I’m missing from receiver side?

Haven’t run Dirac yet but not sure that should affect amount of bass I’m feeling/hearing

Thanks in advance!

Anything I’m missing? I just feel I should hear more from a 2.5 grand ported sub...
I've had issues with the LFE output appearing to be low (I haven't confirmed) but with a MiniDSP HD and Crown XLS2002 which has a .775v setting I was not able to have my subs even keep pace with my mains. However, connection to a MiniDSP (nonHD) or directly to the sub plate amp.

Also, tone controls only effect things above the crossover non-LFE channels. That tone control is not a great set up.
Also, others have complained about Dirac low bass output especially coming from Audessy when use DEQ.

What I do is run the LFE through something that handles the output properly (in my case the MiniDSP nonHD or direct connect) and then I boost my sub gain knobs by about 6dB and then boost Dirac by another 6dB.
I bought a MiniDSP 2x4 HD-why wouldn’t that work the same or better then the original MiniDSP that you are using to boost the levels?

So, to confirm, you are saying that the only proper way for me to get proper bass amount of my PC4000 is not through the NADs speaker levels (even the sub part) or the tone controls (bass part) but instead use a MiniDSP 2x4 HD and then increase levels? What is the best way to hook that up to the NAD and sub and do I need a computer to up the levels the way you describe?
Not to contradict or disagree about others findings but I’m using only a single PB-1000 with the NAD RoomFeel Curve & have PLENTY of bass.

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Also, Dirac sets my sub to -1db & my sub’s volume knob is just a tick off 12 o’clock.

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Thumbs up This actually works...

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The NAD remote app, not the actual remote control







Try pulling the power cable out the NAD and plugging it back in (or switch off at the wall)

Strangely this works.


I had a T758v3 installed this evening by Sevenoaks Sound & Vision and all working when they left.


An hour later the ARC sound from LG OLED 55E6 no longer working at all. Trying to watch the news using satellite tuner within LG OLED thus met with silent pictures unless switching to TV internal speaker. CEC equally seemingly disabled.


Switching TV, Bluray, NAD all off and then pulling out NAD power cable and putting it in again left one with all remaining off. Switching LG TV on now woke up the NAD and ARC sound back along with CEC control.


Hope this does not require regular fixing but useful to be able to do if need be.


Thank you for the advice.
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I’m only using one at a time but have tried them both. Will use as duel eventually
But I'm asking about the locations. If the subs are in different locations and the bass from the much more powerful sub is lacking, it is very likely you are getting different results due to mode-induced bass cancellations:

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You likely have cancellations at your seat at otherwise impactful frequencies. Measuring would tell you for sure.

In the meantime, without changing any other settings, swap the location of the sub you are saying is lacking with the one you think sounds stronger. See if results change.

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Also, Dirac sets my sub to -1db & my sub’s volume knob is just a tick off 12 o’clock.
So minus one is the sub almost full blast right? What’s the 12 o clock thing do? Wonder if I should do that on mine. The SVS have an app.

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I’m only using one at a time but have tried them both. Will use as duel eventually
But I'm asking about the locations. If the subs are in different locations and the bass from the much more powerful sub is lacking, it is very likely you are getting different results due to mode-induced bass cancellations:

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You likely have cancellations at your seat at otherwise impactful frequencies. Measuring would tell you for sure.

In the meantime, without changing any other settings, swap the location of the sub you are saying is lacking with the one you think sounds stronger. See if results change.
Neither sub sounds stronger. Had them in the same location at different times. It is not a matter of it sounding like a bull at the MLP bit rather there is no strong hard pounding no matter where in the room (open concept) as I thought there would be with a sub that strong. That’s why I was wondering if putting the NAD speaker settings for the sub up 4-6 DB might be what’s needed or some other setting in the receiver since the sub is already set at either -5 or -10.
Also, I do notice the sub sounds louder when the receiver is loud (-15 or so) but thought there would be a way to get deep bass freq with moderate listening levels

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Have you tried making the sub curve steeper in Dirac?

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