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Been following this thread and speaking with Doug got my on the QSC train. I pulled the trigger today!

I reached out to several QSC dealers referenced in this thread as well as a few from other threads on using QSC cinema speakers in home like this one: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...rs-vs-jbl.html

Three of the places recommended that will sell to consumers cannot actually sell the Cinema line equipment but I was able to speak with American Cinema Equipment - http://www.cinequip.com/ (503) 285 7015 and they will have the Cinema line.

Did I mention the price blew the doors off anything else I could find? I don't want to post prices here in case there is any issue with that, but I bought a DCA 1644, DCA 3422, a DPA8.4Qn (the Cinema version of the CXD8.4Qn referenced here), and the Core 110c (the Cinema version!) along with 3 of their SC-1120 speakers for my LCRs. The DCA line is the THX certified and actually a little cheaper than the newer digital stuff but I didn't have enough channels of analog on the Core 110c to do all DCA - needed 13x13 vs. the 12x12 available - also leaves room to biamp mains later if I make a change. I'll use the DCA amps with better signal to noise for the Front LCR and Subs since those are the heavy hitters and the DPA for the surrounds and atmos.

From reading here and other research I don't think there is a material difference in the DPA and Core110c vs. the System versions, but the amp was $50 more and the 110c $150 more than the best deal I found on the system version via @DougUSMC pro music store referenced earlier in this thread. For $200 I figured I'd pull the trigger and just get the cinema versions even if its the same lol. Also it was free shipping direct from QSC on orders over $5k.

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Been following this thread and speaking with Doug got my on the QSC train. I pulled the trigger today!



I reached out to several QSC dealers referenced in this thread as well as a few from other threads on using QSC cinema speakers in home like this one: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...rs-vs-jbl.html



Three of the places recommended that will sell to consumers cannot actually sell the Cinema line equipment but I was able to speak with American Cinema Equipment - http://www.cinequip.com/ (503) 285 7015 and they will have the Cinema line.



Did I mention the price blew the doors off anything else I could find? I don't want to post prices here in case there is any issue with that, but I bought a DCA 1644, DCA 3422, a DPA8.4Qn (the Cinema version of the CXD8.4Qn referenced here), and the Core 110c (the Cinema version!) along with 3 of their SC-1120 speakers for my LCRs. The DCA line is the THX certified and actually a little cheaper than the newer digital stuff but I didn't have enough channels of analog on the Core 110c to do all DCA - needed 13x13 vs. the 12x12 available - also leaves room to biamp mains later if I make a change. I'll use the DCA amps with better signal to noise for the Front LCR and Subs since those are the heavy hitters and the DPA for the surrounds and atmos.



From reading here and other research I don't think there is a material difference in the DPA and Core110c vs. the System versions, but the amp was $50 more and the 110c $150 more than the best deal I found on the system version via @DougUSMC pro music store referenced earlier in this thread. For $200 I figured I'd pull the trigger and just get the cinema versions even if its the same lol. Also it was free shipping direct from QSC on orders over $5k.


Wow, you will be able to put together an absolutely fantastic system with that gear. There are a lot of folks out there that have no idea what their missing by ignoring pro-gear.

BTW the DPA amps are also THX certified so you’re not missing out by not having DCA amps throughout.

And your the first on these boards to snag a 110c.


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Been following this thread and speaking with Doug got my on the QSC train. I pulled the trigger today!



I reached out to several QSC dealers referenced in this thread as well as a few from other threads on using QSC cinema speakers in home like this one: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...rs-vs-jbl.html



Three of the places recommended that will sell to consumers cannot actually sell the Cinema line equipment but I was able to speak with American Cinema Equipment - http://www.cinequip.com/ (503) 285 7015 and they will have the Cinema line.



Did I mention the price blew the doors off anything else I could find? I don't want to post prices here in case there is any issue with that, but I bought a DCA 1644, DCA 3422, a DPA8.4Qn (the Cinema version of the CXD8.4Qn referenced here), and the Core 110c (the Cinema version!) along with 3 of their SC-1120 speakers for my LCRs. The DCA line is the THX certified and actually a little cheaper than the newer digital stuff but I didn't have enough channels of analog on the Core 110c to do all DCA - needed 13x13 vs. the 12x12 available - also leaves room to biamp mains later if I make a change. I'll use the DCA amps with better signal to noise for the Front LCR and Subs since those are the heavy hitters and the DPA for the surrounds and atmos.



From reading here and other research I don't think there is a material difference in the DPA and Core110c vs. the System versions, but the amp was $50 more and the 110c $150 more than the best deal I found on the system version via @DougUSMC pro music store referenced earlier in this thread. For $200 I figured I'd pull the trigger and just get the cinema versions even if its the same lol. Also it was free shipping direct from QSC on orders over $5k.


Awesome acquisition! Please post everything you can about the 110c (pics, setup details ,etc.). I’m guessing it’ll be very similar to the 110f, but doesn’t stop any of us from wanting gear porn!

I use the DCA amps in my entire system—you’ll love their sound, and their immediate power. I’d love to hear your impressions on the QSC SC-1120 speakers as well. We know they’re meant to really crank, so we know output capability is there by default. Would love to hear how details come through, etc. Is that speaker is networked into Qsys?


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Three of the places recommended that will sell to consumers cannot actually sell the Cinema line equipment but I was able to speak with American Cinema Equipment - http://www.cinequip.com/ (503) 285 7015 and they will have the Cinema line.

Did I mention the price blew the doors off anything else I could find? I don't want to post prices here in case there is any issue with that, but I bought a DCA 1644, DCA 3422, a DPA8.4Qn (the Cinema version of the CXD8.4Qn referenced here), and the Core 110c (the Cinema version!) along with 3 of their SC-1120 speakers for my LCRs. The DCA line is the THX certified and actually a little cheaper than the newer digital stuff but I didn't have enough channels of analog on the Core 110c to do all DCA - needed 13x13 vs. the 12x12 available - also leaves room to biamp mains later if I make a change. I'll use the DCA amps with better signal to noise for the Front LCR and Subs since those are the heavy hitters and the DPA for the surrounds and atmos.

From reading here and other research I don't think there is a material difference in the DPA and Core110c vs. the System versions, but the amp was $50 more and the 110c $150 more than the best deal I found on the system version via @DougUSMC pro music store referenced earlier in this thread. For $200 I figured I'd pull the trigger and just get the cinema versions even if its the same lol. Also it was free shipping direct from QSC on orders over $5k.
This is awesome news, and I'm glad if my own humble assist helped you find the right path!

To agree with what Beast said, I can't wait to hear what extra goodies the Core110c brings to the table.

BTW, I agree that it's not a good idea to quote prices here, good call. Just for my own info tho, are those "$xx more" numbers compared to retail or what I sent you from the vendor I used? Those were heavily discounted already, so if the vendor you found came that close, they must've given you a hecuva deal!
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This is awesome news, and I'm glad if my own humble assist helped you find the right path!



To agree with what Beast said, I can't wait to hear what extra goodies the Core110c brings to the table.



BTW, I agree that it's not a good idea to quote prices here, good call. Just for my own info tho, are those "$xx more" numbers compared to retail or what I sent you from the vendor I used? Those were heavily discounted already, so if the vendor you found came that close, they must've given you a hecuva deal!


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I can't wait to hear what extra goodies the Core110c brings to the table.
I was talking to a cinema supplier when I ordered a 16 channel AES3 card a week ago, apparently the 110f & 110c product lines (still likely the same hardware) will continue to diverge as they optimize each line for their respective markets, so we will likely see a lot more cinema/audio style components added into the designer software to benefit the 110c/510c.

IDK how long we will be able to use the /cinema switch. In the future they may fork the code, however since there must be hundreds if not thousands of 250/500/3000's installed in cinemas already its likely that we will benefit from being able to run the cinema tweaks on our hardware regardless.


Comparing the specs sheet of the 110f & 110c the only real difference I see is that they have reduced the number of AEC (Acoustic Echo Cancellation) channels to 4 on the 110c, probably only useful on conference calls anyway.
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That’s compared to your discounted numbers
Very nice! So it sounds like they offered a similar or better discount?

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Comparing the specs sheet of the 110f & 110c the only real difference I see is that they have reduced the number of AEC (Acoustic Echo Cancellation) channels to 4 on the 110c, probably only useful on conference calls anyway.
So I read that to tell me no real reason to be overly concerned that I'm rolling w/a 110 NON-c?
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So I read that to tell me no real reason to be overly concerned that I'm rolling w/a 110 NON-c?

No concern for the time being. Still digging for info.
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[QUOTE=DougUSMC;56610342]Very nice! So it sounds like they offered a similar or better discount?




Ya I’m not sure exact msrp, but I would assume it’s around the same percent discount (if not a little more)


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Also for anyone planning, not sure if its because the 8 channel DPA amps and Core 110c are pretty new to the lineup or if its just because they are a low volume product, but QSC builds those to order and its 15 business days lead before it will ship. The DCA amps and SC-1120's got officially paid for/ordered yesterday to QSC and tracking shows they will arrive tomorrow before noon!

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Also for anyone planning, not sure if its because the 8 channel DPA amps and Core 110c are pretty new to the lineup or if its just because they are a low volume product, but QSC builds those to order and its 15 business days lead before it will ship. The DCA amps and SC-1120's got officially paid for/ordered yesterday to QSC and tracking shows they will arrive tomorrow before noon!
Welcome to the QSC bortherhood Adam. I was looking at your thread for your upcoming theater under construction and looks fantastic. With regard to the Core and speakers...keep in mind that pro speakers have a very different sound out of the box than a commercial pair and are not really "voiced" like a B&W, Triad, etc would be. As such, you will likely need to do some EQing (what the core calls custom voicing) prior to any automated room EQ that your Marantz will do. I also did not catch which subs you will be pairing with these speakers; hopefully not QSC as no pro sub goes down in the LFE department to the subterranean levels most AVSers expect at home. You core will also allow you to array your channels for essentially 3D re-mapping (like most home users have done). More importantly the software also contains a myriad of all the tools used by audio engineers to tailor the sound of your system into something beyond just great...to simply unbelievable. If you haven't done so already, take the time to go through their free online tutorial on how to use the designer software as well as study some of the earlier designs posted on this thread to familiarize yourself. You're in for an amazing journey of discovery and enjoyment as you learn how to master these tools (YouTube helped me a lot with regard to learning what these tools do). Congrats!
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Welcome to the QSC bortherhood Adam. I was looking at your thread for your upcoming theater under construction and looks fantastic. With regard to the Core and speakers...keep in mind that pro speakers have a very different sound out of the box than a commercial pair and are not really "voiced" like a B&W, Triad, etc would be. As such, you will likely need to do some EQing (what the core calls custom voicing) prior to any automated room EQ that your Marantz will do. I also did not catch which subs you will be pairing with these speakers; hopefully not QSC as no pro sub goes down in the LFE department to the subterranean levels most AVSers expect at home. You core will also allow you to array your channels for essentially 3D re-mapping (like most home users have done). More importantly the software also contains a myriad of all the tools used by audio engineers to tailor the sound of your system into something beyond just great...to simply unbelievable. If you haven't done so already, take the time to go through their free online tutorial on how to use the designer software as well as study some of the earlier designs posted on this thread to familiarize yourself. You're in for an amazing journey of discovery and enjoyment as you learn how to master these tools (YouTube helped me a lot with regard to learning what these tools do). Congrats!


Thanks! I’m going to watch the tutorial and have some fun tweaking a custom calibration...but I’m sort of cheating compared to those in this thread lol, I have Adam Pelz who does all of Erskine’s theaters (and a bit of a Qsys expert) coming to calibrate everything.

On the subs I needed something less than 18” deep and didn’t like any of the commercial options which were underwhelming or $$$$ so built my own with B&C 21DS-115’s in a 16cu box tuned to 18hz - they individually can do over 120 dB all the way to 20hz. Not Super performers subsonic but mid bass monsters, lots of builds with these lately in the diy section. These are 38” wide which is why I went with the SC-1120’s and not the 1150’s...not enough room.




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BTW the DPA amps are also THX certified so you’re not missing out by not having DCA amps throughout.
I don't believe this is accurate. Only the DCA series of amplifiers are THX certified.

It doesn't mean the DPA line isn't good, but they are Class D vs Class AB or Class H, which is a variation of Class B. The DCA amps also have a better signal to noise ratio, less distortion, better frequency response, Neutrik Speakon connectors vs Euroblock, better damping factor. Some of those are minimal differences, but they are not equivalent substitutes.

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I don't believe this is accurate. Only the DCA series of amplifiers are THX certified.

It doesn't mean the DPA line isn't good, but they are Class D vs Class AB or Class H, which is a variation of Class B. The DCA amps also have a better signal to noise ratio, less distortion, better frequency response, Neutrik Speakon connectors vs Euroblock, better damping factor. Some of those are minimal differences, but they are not equivalent substitutes.

Thanks for the correction.


Although when I was researching the CXD_Q & DPA_Q amps I am certain that QSC had that information posted on the DPA webpage as that was the only distinctive thing I could find which set the two apart.

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Awesome acquisition! Please post everything you can about the 110c (pics, setup details ,etc.). I’m guessing it’ll be very similar to the 110f, but doesn’t stop any of us from wanting gear porn!

I use the DCA amps in my entire system—you’ll love their sound, and their immediate power. I’d love to hear your impressions on the QSC SC-1120 speakers as well. We know they’re meant to really crank, so we know output capability is there by default. Would love to hear how details come through, etc. Is that speaker is networked into Qsys?


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Not sure what you mean on networked, the DCA 1644 will power them which is analog out from the Core, I’m using a dpa network amp for surrounds and atmos but it’s still analog to the actual speakers (just digital in from the Core).

The amps and SC-1120’s came in yesterday, built some stands for the speakers and got them in today along with my diy subs:



The Core shipment came in early so mine is on the way and should be here Monday. I bought some female to female XLR cables from BJC that I cut in half to use with the Core Phoenix connectors. A little more than making them myself, but soldering a bunch of xlr’s is tedious and BJC uses 24 gauge Belden wires with a separate balanced line in them so will make for a clean connection.

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Cinema Core came in today! Haven't fired it up yet as I needed it to test fit with the reciever in my rack to get all the cord lengths correct.


















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Ok I didn't see it mentioned earlier in this thread when discussing the use of "/cinema" in the command line. The 110c, DCA, and DPA amps, and Cinema speakers will not even show available in inventory unless you load the program this way. This is nice for me as the SC-1120's show up as well and have the voicing all preloaded. It will not see the 110c in the configurator as a Qsys device or let you connect at all in the regular mode.

I'm not sure if there is a way to connect the dataport on the DCA amps to the Core to take advantage of the voicing, but could use the DPA amp if not.

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Ok I didn't see it mentioned earlier in this thread when discussing the use of "/cinema" in the command line. The 110c, DCA, and DPA amps, and Cinema speakers will not even show available in inventory unless you load the program this way. This is nice for me as the SC-1120's show up as well and have the voicing all preloaded. It will not see the 110c in the configurator as a Qsys device or let you connect at all in the regular mode.

I'm not sure if there is a way to connect the dataport on the DCA amps to the Core to take advantage of the voicing, but could use the DPA amp if not.
Yeah. There's certain inventory items and controls that only appear if you use /cinema

If you need the data port to take advantage of the speaker voicing then your only option is probably a ioframe with data port cards in it or using the DPA as you say.
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As i read about dataports above, I've been pondering swapping out my Phoenix cards for the dataports, only because I can't get my DCA anps to turn on via trigger. I did the makeshift db15 trigger, but it only works for the first amp in the chain. QSC lost the diagram, so I'm still manually turning on all 7 DCA amps.

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As i read about dataports above, I've been pondering swapping out my Phoenix cards for the dataports, only because I can't get my DCA anps to turn on via trigger. I did the makeshift db15 trigger, but it only works for the first amp in the chain. QSC lost the diagram, so I'm still manually turning on all 7 DCA amps.

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They didn’t look very hard. I downloaded this from their forum a few weeks ago.

http://forum.qscservice.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=390



I built a relay trigger box for some Behringer amps that I had a while back that I still use to trigger 7 QSC devices but grabbed this since I was looking for a LV solution.
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I used to use powerboats with a wireless switch. So only needed to flip on switch. But if you have too many amps / current draw for that

You could just use some wireless/smart wall warts and a scene to turn them one. Think the wemo ones allows scenes or you could create an activity on a harmony remote if compatible.

Might even be possible through q-sys. Check out the TAG forum to see if anyone has created a LUA script plugin for any of the smart wall warts.
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As i read about dataports above, I've been pondering swapping out my Phoenix cards for the dataports, only because I can't get my DCA anps to turn on via trigger. I did the makeshift db15 trigger, but it only works for the first amp in the chain. QSC lost the diagram, so I'm still manually turning on all 7 DCA amps.

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As i read about dataports above, I've been pondering swapping out my Phoenix cards for the dataports, only because I can't get my DCA anps to turn on via trigger. I did the makeshift db15 trigger, but it only works for the first amp in the chain. QSC lost the diagram, so I'm still manually turning on all 7 DCA amps.

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They didn’t look very hard. I downloaded this from their forum a few weeks ago.

http://forum.qscservice.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=390



I built a relay trigger box for some Behringer amps that I had a while back that I still use to trigger 7 QSC devices but grabbed this since I was looking for a LV solution.
Matt, as I look at this I think the most elegant solution is the trigger box if you want to solder and build something. Alternatively, Middle Atlantic makes switched outlet components that are used in the IT sector capable of switching on/off up to eight plugs with delay from a single rocker panel. I use their 6 version for my gear. It only cost a couple hundred used and provides a simple alternative to your problem.
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Might even be possible through q-sys. Check out the TAG forum to see if anyone has created a LUA script plugin for any of the smart wall warts.

There are many ways to script it, Global cache devices are now supported in designer so a GC IP2CC would do the job remotely and even that simple circuit above can be triggered through a GPIO port on the core.



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There are many ways to script it, Global cache devices are now supported in designer so a GC IP2CC would do the job remotely and even that simple circuit above can be triggered through a GPIO port on the core.



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Yeah lots of options. I have a Global coach IP to IR device but haven't had much of a chance to play with it but was happy to see it was supported by q-sys
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Matt, as I look at this I think the most elegant solution is the trigger box if you want to solder and build something.

That is debatable - If the DCA amps didn't already have the ability to be triggered off then I would agree. In this case the nut only needs a slight tap not a sledgehammer.



Apart from having to solder 2 cables to the back of each HD15 connector which is fiddly but not difficult that circuit is far easier to build than a relay trigger for 4 double gang 110V ac outlets which probably needs to be specked to at least 20A.

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Spoke to QSC about the DCA's and they suggested just leaving them always on and that they go into a sort of standby mode when not in use. I may try leaving them on overnight and see if it runs the fans or gets warm at all.

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That is debatable - If the DCA amps didn't already have the ability to be triggered off then I would agree. In this case the nut only needs a slight tap not a sledgehammer.



Apart from having to solder 2 cables to the back of each HD15 connector which is fiddly but not difficult that circuit is far easier to build than a relay trigger for 4 double gang 110V ac outlets which probably needs to be specked to at least 20A.
I don't know if we are talking about the same thing. I was referring to a 1u power strip from Middle Atlantic with 6-8 plugs in the back and a on/off rocker switch in the front. It has delay timing, along with either 15A or 20A rating. You just plug the amps into the back of the strip, hit the front rocker switch and away you go. Simple.
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