Originally Posted by duckymomo
I would go with the Anthem. Love the fully configurable inputs + I would never go back to Audyssey after using ARC.
Having had both ARC (Anthem AVM60) and Audyssey (Marantz 8802a + several previous Denon receivers), I wouldn't go back to either after trying Onkyo AccuEQ. Yes, you read that right, AccuEQ via an Onkyo RZ1100 over both Auyssey and ARC by a large margin. No, I am not drunk nor stoned....lol. I wouldn't have believed it either and still go upstairs to play more demo material in case my ears are deceiving me.
I bought the Onkyo on a whim to try because I was going to go back to using external 88a's for Dirac Live. I liked ARC ok but really missed Dirac. The Anthem is excellent but I couldn't settle in with ARC. Something was just off but I can't really explain but my wife noticed it too. I fiddled with room gain, EQ ranges, etc but was never pleased with the final result after numerous calibrations. Dirac just sets the bar really high. Once I decided to go back to Dirac, I figured I would sell the Anthem while it still had good resale value. I waited patiently for an affordable integrated Dirac solution but got tired of waiting, so I was going back to externals.
I picked the Onkyo because it was cheaper than the equivalent Yamaha/D&M and had all the features I needed, so I figured why not. Also, I have never owned an Onkyo and had always heard a lot of good things about them prior to the HDMI/overheat debacle several years ago. Appears that issue is resolved, so I gave it a try based on price and feature. Going with Dirac, I wasn't worried about the on board room correction. However, I decided to give the AccuEQ a try. Wow - it sounds phenomenal to the point that that I am not going to even bother with Dirac anymore. One mic position and the push of a single button takes it through 8 various sweeps and tones. Easy, fast, and effective. To say I am pleasantly surprised is an understatement. I don't know what its doing, but it does it well.
I do agree with you that ARC is much better than Audyssey. I have seen other people post their praises of AccuEQ but I figured it was the typical owner's bias. Count me in as a believer......
Originally Posted by MOberhardt
I'm interested also. I keep hearing the same but can't really see an explanation.
I found Audyssey to muddle the overall presentation, specifically dialog. I would have to bump the center channel by a db or two to compensate. I also found it very anemic in the bass region. It is common practice to have to go into the channel levels and bump the subchannel by 5+ db depending on your preference. This alone should be an indicator there are problems. I may season my bass a bit after both ARC and AccuEQ but out of the box they were head and shoulders above Audyssey. AccuEQ matched my speakers tonally and presented a very smooth presentation. It makes the speakers disappear. This is why I loved Dirac over the both of them but external boxes are a pain with extra amps and cables. The Onkyo is close enough to Dirac that I won't even bother with it anymore. Hope this helps.