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No, rather only 4 height speakers as is the case with the SR6012 and SR7012. Only the new "flagship" Denon X8500H and Marantz AV8805 can do 6 height speakers.
Ok, what would be the best configuration with basic 5.1? I don't have any room for surround back.
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ok, what would be the best configuration with basic 5.1? I don't have any room for surround back.
5.1.4
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FH+RH or TF+TR?
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Mine was delivered today and I have now spent 7 hours trying to get sound out of this thing. Audyssey setup went fine, but I haven't been able to get a sound out of any of the speakers from any source - cable, blu-ray, internet radio, Apple TV....

Any ideas , or do I have a dead unit ? I'm not usually this incompetent setting up equipment.


PROBLEM SOLVED........

HDMI Audio out set to TV rather than AVR...

and yes,... I'm embarrassed...
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FH+RH or TF+TR?
Depends on whether you want to use the same configuration for all three audio codecs (Atmos, DTS:X, Auro 3D), then you can only use FH + RH.
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Mine was delivered today and I have now spent 7 hours trying to get sound out of this thing. Audyssey setup went fine, but I haven't been able to get a sound out of any of the speakers from any source - cable, blu-ray, internet radio, Apple TV....

Any ideas , or do I have a dead unit ? I'm not usually this incompetent setting up equipment.


PROBLEM SOLVED........

HDMI Audio out set to TV rather than AVR...

and yes,... I'm embarrassed...
At least you manned up and posted it .... especially when it's been done by others.
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Yes marantz partners well with speakers that are bright or neutral..
Ya know, you bring a guy like Chad B in, I think he can make just about any speaker sound good with the right receiver/pre-pro.
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Depends on whether you want to use the same configuration for all three audio codecs (Atmos, DTS:X, Auro 3D), then you can only use FH + RH.
Ok, understand. Going for FH+RH then, thx for the help.
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As far as HDMI 2.1 on an AVR - I have always been told that it is better to connect your blu-ray player, etc. directly to your TV - and to bypass your AVR...?

Problem is the media player / blu ray players mostly just have one hdmi out... mine does.. so it has to go to the receiver and then from there to the projector...
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Problem is the media player / blu ray players mostly just have one hdmi out... mine does.. so it has to go to the receiver and then from there to the projector...
AFAIK, most (if not all) 4k Blu Ray players feature dual HDMI outputs.
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AFAIK, most (if not all) 4k Blu Ray players feature dual HDMI outputs.
My Panasonic UB300 (I think this is a Canada-exclusive model) has only 1 HDMI output. The player was only $199 CDN so I can't really complain.

It is full 4K with HDR, etc.
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Canadians looking to purchase this unit should be aware that Alexa voice-control operation is not available for Canadians - presumably because it's English-only so far. The Canadian Alexa app required to establish the connection does not have the HEOS software included that is needed for set-up.
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Oddly, a Jap website suggested that it only has 30 000uF of capacitance, which is down from the 7200 (44 000), and has to drive 11 channels:
https://translate.google.com.sg/tran...ml&prev=search

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A powerful power supply circuit is installed so that power supply can be provided with enough margin even at the time of loud volume reproduction using all 11 channels simultaneously. A toroidal core transformer with a shield layered in the center of the chassis and custom-made, 15,000 μF × 2 large capacity block capacitor realize high instantaneous current supply capability. Large speakers can also be driven accurately and powerfully.
It uses the same 4 Sharc DSP chips ADSP 21487 as the 7200 and the other 2017. The Denon 8500 and Marantz 8805 uses a totally new SHARC ADSP 21537 pair.
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I made a little table of the differences between the 8012 and the 8500:
There are probably more, but I hope this helps..

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I made a little table of the differences between the 8012 and the 8500:
There are probably more, but I hope this helps..
1. Auro 3D is factory installed on both the SR7012 and the SR8012.
2. Denon products feature the same RC IN/OUT jacks.

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Thanks, changed the Auro bit.
Denons don't come with the RC5 trigger that works on other Marantz products..
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the marantz sr 8012 work whit trigger for other company ,for now I receive this marantz sr 8012 and is collect trigger out number no 1 to in trigger emotiva xpa 5 and I give my impression next week but for now wow I am very surprise from this marrantz sr 8012 .

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AFAIK, most (if not all) 4k Blu Ray players feature dual HDMI outputs.
My Dune 4K media player also only have 1 out...
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My Dune 4K media player also only have 1 out...
Note I said "Blu Ray player" not "Media Player."

And my point was that if a Blu Ray player is the only source, there are numerous dual HDMI 4k models available.
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Note I said "Blu Ray player" not "Media Player."

And my point was that if a Blu Ray player is the only source, there are numerous dual HDMI 4k models available.
Yep.. . I stand corrected!

But I would love the setup to be easier... ie, All sources > Receiver > Projector... Otherwise, if you have more than 1 source material, you still have the same problem as the projector only have 2 HDMI inputs... So, it's important for the receiver to be able to at the very least pass thru all data cleanly... mine doesn't even do 4K passthru properly... even though it says it would... So, I am waiting for hdmi 2.1.. should have no issue passing thru everything you can throw at it...
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I went through the Audyssey set-up, which was a little confusing because I have two rear speakers, two front and a center channel. Had to set the rear speakers as side surround speakers since there was no way to get to "rear" after saying I did not have the side surrounds. Whatever.

Then I needed to set up two other zones in our kitchen and on the patio via Amp assign. But after doing that, it appears that the Audyssey setup has been nuked and have to do it again.

Did I do something out of order? It would have been nice if at the end of the speaker setup it asked me if I had other zones.

Appreciate any feedback on this.
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I went through the Audyssey set-up, which was a little confusing because I have two rear speakers, two front and a center channel. Had to set the rear speakers as side surround speakers since there was no way to get to "rear" after saying I did not have the side surrounds. Whatever.

Then I needed to set up two other zones in our kitchen and on the patio via Amp assign. But after doing that, it appears that the Audyssey setup has been nuked and have to do it again.

Did I do something out of order? It would have been nice if at the end of the speaker setup it asked me if I had other zones.

Appreciate any feedback on this.
When you only have a 5.1 setup, the surrounds are "side" surrounds regardless of whether you place them ideally to your sides or decide to place them behind you.

You must set the AMP ASSIGN setting "before" you run Audyssey, otherwise, changing it may disable the Audyssey run as you learned.
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When you only have a 5.1 setup, the surrounds are "side" surrounds regardless of whether you place them ideally to your sides or decide to place them behind you.

You must set the AMP ASSIGN setting "before" you run Audyssey, otherwise, changing it may disable the Audyssey run as you learned.
Thanks jdsmoothie - it works great now.

Another issue has come up - I just realized that I don't have audio coming out of my connected TV through the Marantz. I have an optical audio cable out of the TV and into the Marantz for TV audio, but I can't hear the audio (cable/sattelite audio keeps playing). I know there's something simple here that fixes it, but am a little stumped.
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Thanks jdsmoothie - it works great now.

Another issue has come up - I just realized that I don't have audio coming out of my connected TV through the Marantz. I have an optical audio cable out of the TV and into the Marantz for TV audio, but I can't hear the audio (cable/sattelite audio keeps playing). I know there's something simple here that fixes it, but am a little stumped.
If the TV is set to pass audio to "Home Theater/External speakers" then press "TV Audio" on the Marantz Remote Control.
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OK I finish to try the marantz sr 8012 and wow for the first time this machine beat my onkyo tx-nr3030 ,for the power is same but the différence is in the séparation to the sound in the speakers,When you put the movie ex;ATOMIC BLOND ,DUNKIRK, 4K ULTRA HD I never see the receiver give the solicitation sound to the speaker ,for shur whit the new émotiva xpa 5 help for the power but I try to my 3030 alone but is not same .


Will see now what happen whit new onkyo comming in the end of 2018.

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OK I finish to try the marantz sr 8012 and wow for the first time this machine beat my onkyo tx-nr3030 ,for the power is same but the différence is in the séparation to the sound in the speakers,When you put the movie ex;ATOMIC BLOND ,DUNKIRK, 4K ULTRA HD I never see the receiver give the solicitation sound to the speaker ,for shur whit the new émotiva xpa 5 help for the power but I try to my 3030 alone but is not same .


Will see now what happen whit new onkyo comming in the end of 2018.
I'm glad you found the 8012 to your liking...as did I. I too found it to be a powerhouse (especially in bass response) and suspect it is due to the newly designed power supply (toroidal xformer) and amps. IMO, it is what the 3100 should have been two years ago....same 11 channel capability and same MSRP but better feature set. However having said this, the question is...is the performance, feature set, and lack of HDMI 2.1 upgradeablilty commensurate with its MSRP? IMO, there are better and/or different options out there in terms of both capability and value. Of course, this is an individual decision each of us must make. I've already made a conscience decision on the side of value as a temporary/bridge solution while also awaiting the next generation of flagships that will likely have equal of better performance but importantly established HDMI 2.1 capability.

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I know for 2.1 but for me is not important because ,many problem is not finish whit ,hlg dolby vision and I thing whit my exprérience when the 2.1 comming some problem stay whit cable hdmi ,dolby vision .


Normaly I change every 4-5 years but depend how the new onkyo have Inside when is comming suppose automn 2018.

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I know for 2.1 but for me is not important because ,many problem is not finish whit ,hlg dolby vision and I thing whit my exprérience when the 2.1 comming some problem stay whit cable hdmi ,dolby vision .


Normaly I change every 4-5 years but depend how the new onkyo have Inside when is comming suppose automn 2018.
I agree...that's the reason for my decision to have a temporary solution now...as I can easily wait 1 or maybe 2 years for a better solution and 2.1 is stable. In that time frame, I will also want to audition Onkyo's new flagship and the 8012 will even be more appealing at 1/2 its current MSRP.

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Anyone know if Sound & Vision has this yet for a review...?

Would love to see their test bench measurements.

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TV: LG C9/C10, or Samsung Q90R, or Sony ...
Blu-ray: Panasonic UB820, or Pioneer Elite LX500, or Sony X800M
AVR/Pre-pro: Marantz 8805/7705 or 8012, or Yamaha 5200 or 3080
Speakers: GE Triton One.R, or ML ElectroMotion ESL X
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Anyone know if Sound & Vision has this yet for a review...?

Would love to see their test bench measurements.
It doesn't appear so...at least not yet. The last Marantz AVR tested was the SR7011 in April of last year.

https://www.soundandvision.com/categ...ceiver-reviews

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