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So far I’m thrilled with my 8012. Setup was fairly simple thanks to a well thought out setup interface. My Yamaha was no slouch, but this 8012 is certainly an upgrade IMO. Currently listening to Steely Dan Gaucho SACD DSD 5.1 and I’m quite pleased with the sound. Haven’t run audyssey yet, so I’m guessing the SQ is only going to get better.
Watched the race scene from RP one 4K. Sound and picture quality outstanding. Still waiting for my certified premium HDMI cables to show up from Monoprice, so again I’m guessing things will only get better.
In the coming months I’ll be adding SVS Prime elevations to add Atmos. 7.2.4.
That’s all for now. Back to enjoying the spoils of my hard earned 💰.

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IMO none of those things make a flagship.
1. Is the toroidal transformer not an upgraded component?
You may say yes and I may say no, who knows? It's a subjective thing to some degree. The facts are, some much lower cost products (may not be a receiver) could have a toroidal transformer and some expensive audiophile class products could have the E-I frame transformers (Luxman for example). The E-I frame one in the X8500H is, like the ones in the "non flagship" models, are supposedly customer wound, so in theory some of them could have been made to match or better than the toridal ones of similar VA rating in certain aspects. Like a lot of this vs that things, there are pros and cons (weight, size, leakage, inrush current, dc offset etc..) for both types, D&M presumably must have done their balancing act for their various products. Either type could be equally good if designed and built accordingly.

https://www.soundstage.com/maxdb/maxdb071998.htm

The one in the "flagship weighs 8.2 kg, that's 18 lbs, 1.3 oz. All else being equal, if Denon opted for toroidal, they may be able shed a lb or so. It looks like a high quality one, relatively speaking, they might have opted not to use toroidal in their recent flag ship models for some valid reasons (e.g. lower inrush current), or just to minimize cost. Based on bench test data on their recent models, even the lower mid range X3400H, have excellent SRN, cross talk figures so leakage flux (where toroidals do better in general) should not be an issue. As for definition of flag ship, we can have our own, but we don't work for their marketing department.

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In my mind, the 8012 "should" be considered Marantz's flagship "AVR." However, it seems from a sales & marketing perspective, Marantz's AV8805 is considered the flagship...presumably because it has the higher MSRP...but then again, it's a pre-pro...not an AVR...different category....semantics I guess. Or, I'll make the assumption that this is a D+M product positioning thing...they want to differentiate the 8012 from the 8500 from the 8805.

This brings up an interesting speculation...wonder what consumers choices would have been if...

1. The 8012 had two more (13) channels or..

2. The 8500 had two fewer (11) channels (6500 not in the same league).
Again, that can be a little subjective either way. The fact is, it is a little more than just one having two more channels. The 8012 still shares some of the same components/parts and even some schematics (a fact). It obviously has a slightly larger power supply, and the HDAM modules. The AV8802A shares a lot with the Denon AVR-X7200WA so the same may be true between the AVR-X8500H and the AV8805 but I haven't seen the schematics so I am only guessing.
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TROUBLE WITH MARANTZ

I hook up the Amazon Fire Stick 4K UHD to play 4K video and the Marantz says.

"This content can not be displayed because your TV does not support HDCP 2.2."

But I own a 4K TV.
Furthermore, when I bypass the marantz and plug the fire stick directly into the same cable going to the TV, it displays perfectly fine.

The problem is with the Marantz.

So I went to the Marantz website for help and they say "Plug in the Cable/Satellite box to a HDMI input connector closer to the HDMI output connector of the AVR. (i.e. Media Player, Aux 2 instead of CBL/SAT)."

After plugging in to the CD port there is still no signal.
After plugging in to the Media Player port input there is still no signal.

No matter what I do, it wont play 4K. The 8012 blames the TV for not supporting the signal but when the Marantz is taken out of the signal path, it works just fine.
Conversely, the only way to make the 8012 work with the fire stick is if I set the fire display settings down to 1080....

Any suggestions?

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TROUBLE WITH MARANTZ

I hook up the Amazon Fire Stick 4K UHD to play 4K video and the Marantz says.

"This content can not be displayed because your TV does not support HDCP 2.2."

But I own a 4K TV.
Furthermore, when I bypass the marantz and plug the fire stick directly into the same cable going to the TV, it displays perfectly fine.

The problem is with the Marantz.

So I went to the Marantz website for help and they say "Plug in the Cable/Satellite box to a HDMI input connector closer to the HDMI output connector of the AVR. (i.e. Media Player, Aux 2 instead of CBL/SAT)."

After plugging in to the CD port there is still no signal.
After plugging in to the Media Player port input there is still no signal.

No matter what I do, it wont play 4K. The 8012 blames the TV for not supporting the signal but when the Marantz is taken out of the signal path, it works just fine.
Conversely, the only way to make the 8012 work with the fire stick is if I set the fire display settings down to 1080....

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Tony
Do you have HDMI set to enhanced in the 8012? My 4k Firestick works perfectly with my 8012 including DV via the sideloaded VUDU app. Additionally, is the cable connecting the 8012 to your TV premium certified? Do you have any other 4k sources running through the 8012? Are you connecting the Firestick to the same TV input that the 8012 is connected to? Does your TV have enhanced setting for HDMI per input or is it global? There are way to many unknown variables to list them all.
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SR8012 Power Specs

My three front LCR speakers are 4 ohms, the four sides & rears are 6 ohms, and the four Atmos are 8 ohms (all 11 Triad Silver). There will be two large subs, 15" 600 W. 4800 cu ft dedicated sealed room (21w 23d 10h)

The Marantz web site says, "11.2 channel AV Receiver with 205W per channel – Enough power to fill big rooms with renowned Marantz sound."

The Marantz data sheet from the web site says:

8ohm, 1%, 1ch Drive--------------------------205 W
8ohm, 0.7%, 2ch Drive------------------------175 W
8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08%, 2ch Drive---140 W

The owners manual says:

Front:
140 W + 140 W (8 Ω/ohms, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.05 % T.H.D.)
175 W + 175 W (6 Ω/ohms, 1 kHz with 0.7 % T.H.D.)

Center:
140 W (8 Ω/ohms, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.05 % T.H.D.)
175 W (6 Ω/ohms, 1 kHz with 0.7 % T.H.D.)

Surround:
140 W + 140 W (8 Ω/ohms, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.05 % T.H.D.)
175 W + 175 W (6 Ω/ohms, 1 kHz with 0.7 % T.H.D.)

Surround back / Height1 / Height2:
140 W + 140 W (8 Ω/ohms, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.05 % T.H.D.)
175 W + 175 W (6 Ω/ohms, 1 kHz with 0.7 % T.H.D.)

If I understand this correctly, it's 140 W x 11 channels at 8 ohms; 175W x 11 channels at 6 ohms. My 4 ohm fronts are rated for 50-200 W. Anybody know the SR8012 amp's 4 ohm rating? Is my speaker/room setup good with the SR8012? Thanks.
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My three front LCR speakers are 4 ohms, the four sides & rears are 6 ohms, and the four Atmos are 8 ohms (all 11 Triad Silver). There will be two large subs, 15" 600 W. 4800 cu ft dedicated sealed room (21w 23d 10h)

If I understand this correctly, it's 140 W x 11 channels at 8 ohms; 175W x 11 channels at 6 ohms. My 4 ohm fronts are rated for 50-200 W. Anybody know the SR8012 amp's 4 ohm rating? Is my speaker/room setup good with the SR8012? Thanks.
The listed power specs are into 2 speakers only with the power/speaker dropping each time you add more speakers. The SR8012 should handle your 4-ohm speakers just fine, although will greatly depend on the size of your room and the AVR volume level.
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Do you have HDMI set to enhanced in the 8012?
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Additionally, is the cable connecting the 8012 to your TV premium certified?
Should be. The sales man recommended a 4K cable with the TV. Was expensive enough to be 4K.
I bought it with the TV 4 years ago at Best Buy.


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Do you have any other 4k sources running through the 8012?
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Are you connecting the Firestick to the same TV input that the 8012 is connected to?
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Does your TV have enhanced setting for HDMI per input or is it global?
This is what it has listed in its options.
Ultra High Definition 4K (3840 x 2160)
• UHD Upscaling
• UHD Dimming
• Precision Black (Local Dimming)
• Auto Depth Enhancer
• PurColor


The Marantz also has trouble with the input selections.
When I turn off the system when its in CBL/SAT, the following day I turn it back on it automatically comes back up with CBL/SAT.... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ". The display panel on the front of the Marantz says "TV Audio Stereo"

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ".

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT again and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... This time it stays put...

I'm not sure if this is driven by equipment incompatibilities, settings incompatibilities or something else. It's hard to imagine the Marantz would be defective. It's fresh out of the box. But maybe it is? IDK.
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Should be. The sales man recommended a 4K cable with the TV. Was expensive enough to be 4K.
I bought it with the TV 4 years ago at Best Buy.



No.


Yes.


This is what it has listed in its options.
Ultra High Definition 4K (3840 x 2160)
• UHD Upscaling
• UHD Dimming
• Precision Black (Local Dimming)
• Auto Depth Enhancer
• PurColor


The Marantz also has trouble with the input selections.
When I turn off the system when its in CBL/SAT, the following day I turn it back on it automatically comes back up with CBL/SAT.... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ". The display panel on the front of the Marantz says "TV Audio Stereo"

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ".

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT again and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... This time it stays put...

I'm not sure if this is driven by equipment incompatibilities, settings incompatibilities or something else. It's hard to imagine the Marantz would be defective. It's fresh out of the box. But maybe it is? IDK.
With a 4 year old cable I would not be surprised if it isn't premium certified. Get yourself some premium certified cables (they have a specific hologram logo sticker on the package), and they don't need to be expensive, and go from there.
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With a 4 year old cable I would not be surprised if it isn't premium certified. Get yourself some premium certified cables (they have a specific hologram logo sticker on the package), and they don't need to be expensive, and go from there.
I just ordered one 10ft and three 6ft premium certified cables from monoprice for less than $25 including shipping. Prior to ordering I ran the DV test with my ATV and got some pink and green color on the screen that should not have been there. Will be interesting to see how I make out on the test once my cables arrive.

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Front wide speaker 9.1.2
Hello every one ipurchased this model but maybe iwill return it since ididnt saw the config for 9.1.2 with wide front speaker
Weared because its mentioned on cover sheet dts x 9.1.2 but no draw or config on the manual can any one confim does this amp support 9.1.2 with wide front speaker !?
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Front wide speaker 9.1.2
Hello every one ipurchased this model but maybe iwill return it since ididnt saw the config for 9.1.2 with wide front speaker
Weared because its mentioned on cover sheet dts x 9.1.2 but no draw or config on the manual can any one confim does this amp support 9.1.2 with wide front speaker !?
Front Wide speaker capability was dropped beginning with the 2016 Denon and Marantz models. The only current Denon/Marantz AVR that can process Front Wide speakers is the current "flagship" Denon X8500H.
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Should be. The sales man recommended a 4K cable with the TV. Was expensive enough to be 4K.
I bought it with the TV 4 years ago at Best Buy.
"Premium" certified HDMI cables have only been available for the past 2-3 years, so what you purchased are not "Premium" certified.

https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/pr...e/faq.aspx#156
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The Marantz also has trouble with the input selections.
When I turn off the system when its in CBL/SAT, the following day I turn it back on it automatically comes back up with CBL/SAT.... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ". The display panel on the front of the Marantz says "TV Audio Stereo"

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... for about 10 seconds, then the screen goes black with "MARANTZ".

So with the remote I click on CBL/SAT again and it brings back the Direct TV sound and image... This time it stays put...

I'm not sure if this is driven by equipment incompatibilities, settings incompatibilities or something else. It's hard to imagine the Marantz would be defective. It's fresh out of the box. But maybe it is? IDK.
Sounds like CEC control is enabled, and the system automatically senses and switches inputs / outputs based upon signal dections. Quick try would be to diasable these in both and then test. I've experienced exactly the same switching between my Denon and my Apple TV. Turned off CEC in the ATV and it stopped.

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Front Wide speaker capability was dropped beginning with the 2016 Denon and Marantz models. The only current Denon/Marantz AVR that can process Front Wide speakers is the current "flagship" Denon X8500H.
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I'll give the "Premium" 4K cable a try.

Thanks guys!
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I'll give the "Premium" 4K cable a try.

Thanks guys!
My certified premium cables are scheduled for delivery today. Will re-run the cable test today and report back with hopefully better results.🤞🏾
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Sounds like CEC control is enabled, and the system automatically senses and switches inputs / outputs based upon signal dections. Quick try would be to diasable these in both and then test. I've experienced exactly the same switching between my Denon and my Apple TV. Turned off CEC in the ATV and it stopped.
I disabled CEC from the TV and it bypassed the problem but it also disabled the single controller interconnection between equipment. Then I re-enabled it from the TV and disabled it in the Marantz.

In both cases the CEC function is entirely disabled. Is there a way to avoid the problem without completely disabling the CEC function?
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I’m considering the Marantz 8012 but have a question re: zone 2/3 capabilities. I intend to have a 5.1.4 system for the main zone, and 2 speakers in zone two, with a handful of HDMI inputs (cable, Apple TV, Xbox, etc), with a TV in each area (two HDMI outputs).

Do the zone 2/3 HDMI capabilities support the ability to display two different HDMI inputs to two different HDMI outputs simultaneously? For example, watching TV via cable box on the main TV/zone while playing Xbox in the secondary zone /TV? Similar to the functionality of an HDMI matrix switch?

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I disabled CEC from the TV and it bypassed the problem but it also disabled the single controller interconnection between equipment. Then I re-enabled it from the TV and disabled it in the Marantz.

In both cases the CEC function is entirely disabled. Is there a way to avoid the problem without completely disabling the CEC function?
Not really which is why I hate CEC (and by extension ARC). CEC lives in the wild, wild, west and each manufacturer does things differently which is why it is so unreliable. Good idea but usually causes problems.

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I’m considering the Marantz 8012 but have a question re: zone 2/3 capabilities. I intend to have a 5.1.4 system for the main zone, and 2 speakers in zone two, with a handful of HDMI inputs (cable, Apple TV, Xbox, etc), with a TV in each area (two HDMI outputs).

Do the zone 2/3 HDMI capabilities support the ability to display two different HDMI inputs to two different HDMI outputs simultaneously? For example, watching TV via cable box on the main TV/zone while playing Xbox in the secondary zone /TV? Similar to the functionality of an HDMI matrix switch?

Thanks.
Yes, however, note that the HDMI capability only applies to Zone 2, not Zone 3.
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Hi,

Im currently running a 7.2 system with the Marantz and have a couple of questions regarding Bi-amping.

1. Is it possible to biamp the LCR-channels? Im currently only able to biamp L and R. Im therefore only using 9 of 11 channels.
2. If no 1 is not doable, is it possible to use an external amp for the SR and SR Back and biamp the LCR-channels with the Marantz?
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Im currently running a 7.2 system with the Marantz and have a couple of questions regarding Bi-amping.

1. Is it possible to biamp the LCR-channels? Im currently only able to biamp L and R. Im therefore only using 9 of 11 channels.
2. If no 1 is not doable, is it possible to use an external amp for the SR and SR Back and biamp the LCR-channels with the Marantz?
1. Yes, but you can only have a 5.1 setup to do so using the AMP ASSIGN = 5.1Ch Full Bi-Amp (p. 69 Owner's manual).
2. No.
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I'll give the "Premium" 4K cable a try.

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OK I hooked up a 3 meter Premimum certified UHD 4K cable from Best Buy... and I still get "This content cannot be played because your TV does not support HDCP 2.2"

But when I hook up the firestick to the same cable to bypass the Marantz, the 4K setting works just fine.

This tends to suggest the Marantz is the problem.

What do you think?

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OK I hooked up a 3 meter Premimum certified UHD 4K cable from Best Buy... and I still get "This content cannot be played because your TV does not support HDCP 2.2"

But when I hook up the firestick to the same cable to bypass the Marantz, the 4K setting works just fine.

This tends to suggest the Marantz is the problem.

What do you think?

Tony
What is the actual HDMI cable you purchased? Product code? Does it have the HDMI.org "Premium" certified stamp?

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Is it possible through de Marantz app or the Heos to see which Input signal the AVR is receiving and to which Speakers it is sending out sound? I manage to do so with some inputs, like Cable,but Heos I do not, and I believe Blu-ray I do not as well. Sometimes I want to see if the Sound mode is correctly applied, and can not (only in the front display of the AVR, which is not enough). Thanks.

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Is it possible through de Marantz app or the Heos to see which Input signal the AVR is receiving and to which Speakers it is sending out sound? I manage to do so with some inputs, like Cable,but Heos I do not, and I believe Blu-ray I do not as well. Sometimes I want to see if the Sound mode is correctly applied, and can not (only in the front display of the AVR, which is not enough). Thanks.
Yup. Via the Marantz app as well as simply pressing the INFO button on the remote.
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Yup. Via the Marantz app as well as simply pressing the INFO button on the remote.
But... how on the app? I need to see it on my iPad. The remote does not help as it will show on front display which is 30+ feet away.

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I have a question regarding the airplay feature, is the airplay on sr8012 support video mirroring? Today I try to airplay the yourtube only sound but no video, the tv only shows the index picture of the content.
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I have a question regarding the airplay feature, is the airplay on sr8012 support video mirroring? Today I try to airplay the yourtube only sound but no video, the tv only shows the index picture of the content.
No, audio only.
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